PS4 Sold (Not Shipped) 6.2 Million Units This Holiday Season, Total Sales Now 53.4 Million; Uncharted 4 8.7 Million

So? It's probably pretty accurate given how much sales information Microsoft was shitting out in those days. Also, the game sold 14.5 million by November 2014, numbers have not been updated since then, given over two absent years it could be at 15-16 million.

Destroyed

Yeah, we're done here

Give me proper sourced numbers, please. If the numbers were so well known and common, you should be able to find them.

It's not about having an argument, it's about having a spin to an argument :P hehehe

Seriously, some of these posts. Jebus. All exclusives need to have a 1:1 attach ratio to not be flops am confirmed.

Because of what reason? Because it ruins your bullshit claim and it's easy to dispense with given the nonsensical "rules" of this shit hole?

Are you going to ignore the 14.5 million in November 2014 as reported by Halo Waypoint?

Give me proper sourced numbers, please. If the numbers were so well known and common, you should be able to find them. VGChartz is a joke, and you know that.

This is the guy who claimed that Xbox One would overtake PS4 in worldwide sales over a 3 month span because of Halo 5, waited for Uncharted to fall below 90 on MC, and uses VGChartz. Good luck with that!

Here's 8.1 million on January 4th 2008, that 10 million figure is more than accurate. So that's near Uncharted 4's numbers in just over 3 months with half as many systems on the market as the PlayStation 4.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224044

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/games-discussion-1000000/microsoft-177-million-360s-sold-halo-3-sales-at-81-26138903/

it could but there has been a LOT of racers lately. and a lot of okay to mediocre to bad racing games (driveclub, the crew, need for speed) i feel like people are kind of worn out on racers. Also forza coming out every year too doesnt help. It was good that GT Sport got delayed so it didnt compete directly with FH3.

8 million in January, with 35 million Xbox 360s sold. See, I can go with this, reasonably.

It was not at 10 million sold.

Shipped*

8.1 million sold in just over 3 months with likely 22-25 million Xbox 360's sold, they didn't announce 30 million consoles sold until May 28th 2009, and that 10 million figure didn't come out until August of 2009, it all lines up.

Most accurate comment I've seen for some time. :P

All exclusives need to have a 1:1 attach ratio to be considered successful, and Switch needs to sell 1 billion units (iPhone territory) to be successful. Rubbish.

It can be hard to have a reasonable conversation amidst all the bluster!

Unless you give me sources, I will not accept the 10 million figure. The onus is on you.

Phffft, rookie spinning going on here.

Try this spin. UC4 likely sold 8 million new copies bought it, beat it, traded the pos in the next day then and additional 8 million used copies sold making it 16 million in total. lololol :P

Great does that mean you will care about graphics and post regularly again.? Sweet...

Oh really how about 9 million out of 70 million.? Is that even worse.?

Because that is what Halo 4 sold when it release on a 70 million user base,oh no wait i most do it like you did since you are putting the total of PS sold to date ignoring that the PS4 wasn't 53 millions when Uncharted 4 launch.

So how about 9 millions out of 85 million xbox 360 is that good?

So which is worse 8 out of 53 million or 9 out of 86 millions..Hahahhaa

The PS4 wasn't 53 million either when Uncharted 4 launched didn't stop him from using the 53 number,by the way when Halo 4 came same chapter as Uncharted 4 there were more than 70 million xbox 360 sold,halo 4 release on November 2012 and the 360 reach 70 million on October 2012,in fact by february it was 75 million already which is less month than Uncharted 4 to today.

So 9 million Halo 4 copies out of 75 millions units is even worse.

Are you serious man? Get a grip on reality here.... The game sold 8.1 million in a little over a 3 month period with likely 22-25 million consoles on the market, and you don't believe it sold a paltry 1.9 million more 20 months later with what appears to be at least 10 million more consoles in circulation?

You're being kind of douchey right now just to be one, 10 million at that point seems like it would be a low ball figure considering what came before it...

VG Chartz has no power here!

@tormentos:

Oh sorry, the Bore was only at 50 million when UC4 launched. lolol . :P

Oh and why did the argument change from this gens Halo5 compared to UC4 to the 2007 Halo 3 compared to UC4? Oh wait, the spinner did that. lol.

So a game that sold 8.1 million in four months could coceivably sell 2 more million over the next eight moths, and another 4 million after that over the next six years, but Uncharted 4 will not sell anything beyond 8 million because, reasons?

And I'm the one being a douche? ell oh fucking ell

We all knew PS4 won holiday 2016 for the 4th straight year.

Who said that? I said it will likely settle at 10-11 million when all is said and done, it's not like it has Halo 3's multiplayer to carry it into the sunset years from now.

Also that's not 8 months, August 2009 is 20 months later, August 2008 would be 8 months.

Okay, but how do you know where sales will end for Uncharted 4? Why am I supposed to take any prediction for what you say seriously, when you were so sure Uncharted 4 would drop below 90 on Metacritic, or before that still, unaware of how Metacritic's weighted averages work in the Quantum Break thread?

You will excuse me for saying, I will wait till Uncharted 4's final LTD sales come in, before I decide to declare it a 'flop' (because clearly, a nearly 20% attach rate is a game flopping).

Very impressive..........................PS4 have dominate again.

Congrats Sony.

HYPOCRITE see how you always one to pic the worse case scenario for the PS4.? So not a single copy more will be sell of Uncharted 4 right.?hahahahaa

https://thegamefreakshow.com/2016/03/25/xbox-360/

11.93 as of march 2016,the whole 14 million was including ODST which is many times add to Halo 3 totals,or counting the MCC collections which would be a joke since it is on xbox one not 360.

Using a site that redirect to VGchartz is a joke dude,like people will not check your links you should have know better.

so 11.93 million out of 85 million xbox 360 that is worse than 8.7 million out of 53 millions.

Hell i find Halo 2 and Halo CE numbers to be more impressive considering both achieve 8+ millions on a 25 million user base that is a far greater attach rate.

Please don't enter other peoples arguments, you do it all the time and you're wrong.

There's absolutely zero mention of ODST, not to mention this OVER 14.5 million figure was two years ago.

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/games/halo-3

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....

Not even VG chartz has Halo 3 with 14 million copies,i think you are mixing Halo 3 numbers with COD Modern Warfare 3 which were 14.3 millions..lol

No in fact that is why you can't find halo 3 reaching 10 million in a credible source,MS wasn't sharing those..lol

The fun part is that when you reverse the argument on them all of the sudden VG chartz through a 3rd party site like neowin all of the sudden is totally credible and not lol worthy as VGcharz always was,now mention that the 360 was pass by the PS3 and use VGchartz and you will see certain lemming jumping and screaming how vgchartz is lols..

LINK or GTFO... Yes and those include Halo MCC shipments probably...hahahahaa

If MS numbers were so known you should be able to find them hell i find link from 1999 talking about the PS2 and what will have and you can't find a link for Halo 3 reaching 10 millions..hahahahaa

Nyadc made a thread several months back about UC4 sales flopping.

@charizard1605:

I got to ask cause I never understood why buy what is VGChartz numbers a joke anyways?

All these threads in here about all other topics about games in here and Thumbelina is no where to be found but as soon as a console sales topic shows up, he crawls from out the basement LOL. Dude is so predictable with what he cares about.

They've been known to make up numbers, and then retroactively 'fix' them once official reports are released.

@charizard1605:

Ooooooooh okay, I gotcha. Never knew the story behind the hate for them.

Yeah, it's a bit of a shame, because if they didn't have this history of fudging numbers, they would definitely be an invaluable resource.

Yeah I didn't know what was the difference between what NPD does and VGChartz. Thought they were both the same.

@FastRobby:

And the salt pours in. What happened to a simple "congrats"?

Wait wait wait,.people saying uncharted flopped?

@Chutebox: yeah.. according to king lem nyadc here lol

@BigShotSmoov007: They spent the previous gen (PS3-X360-Wii) guessing their numbers and consistently getting them completely wrong (be it for NPD, Media Create, overall WW numbers, etc). They could as easily and happily predict that the X360 sold 2 million units in a month and the following say the PS3 would sell 2.5 million (a bit of an hyperbolic example, but they really weren't reliable at all).

They spent the entire gen being corrected by the official numbers from the various real sources (the big 3 themselves or sources like NPD/MC/etc for more regional numbers). Hence they were "soft banned" almost everywhere you go. Not sure how they are these days tbf, but unless they went through big changes it's always a good idea to take their numbers with caution.

@ni6htmare01: Good Lord...

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@Zero_epyon said:

@charizard1605 said:

@dynamitecop said:

@charizard1605 said:

Your first link sources VGChartz

So? It's probably pretty accurate given how much sales information Microsoft was shitting out in those days. Also, the game sold 14.5 million by November 2014, numbers have not been updated since then, given over two absent years it could be at 15-16 million.

Yeah, we're done here

Give me proper sourced numbers, please.

This is the guy who claimed that Xbox One would overtake PS4 in worldwide sales over a 3 month span because of Halo 5, waited for Uncharted to fall below 90 on MC, and uses VGChartz. Good luck with that!

yeah that lol

And what's worse is that they don't disclose their sources for numbers and they change the numbers without letting people know they were changed.

@Desmonic:

That is good to know, thanks for the info. I don't really follow behind sales numbers like that so I just didn't get why NPD numbers was fine but VG wasn't.

Hey LOLZMAN, did you lose your megla account already?

Impressive! Proof that this industry is as healthy as ever. So much for the end of consoles lol

I'm actually very convinced it's tormentos alting.

Totally broken English, both fully capitalizing hypocrite of all words and only that word in the same thread...

And this is what everyone should be celebrating instead of this fanboy bullshit in this thread. We know the Xbox One S also sold very well so lets celebrate that console industry is healthy, STRONG, and amazing!!!!! Cows are the fucking worse about sucking each other off and wanting all competition to die. Hey cows if it was not for competition you wouldn't have the PS4/PS4 Pro you have today!

We should all be rooting for all consoles (Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft) to hit 100 million+!!! That is what will make this industry EVEN BETTER!

Nice lemming butthurt there. No one in this thread has said anything about wanting competition to die. In fact, it's your king lem NyaDC that is saying that UC4 flopped and is hoping for it to drop below 90 on Metacritic someday. Everyone else is being a good sport and saying "congrats" but let your butthurt lem tears continue to flow.

@Xabiss: There aee haters in all fronts (Sony, MS, Nintendo and PC). At the end i don't care if they wan't competitors to fail, if they think indie games are crap, companies are greedy, etc, etc...

The fact us that we are living in a fantastic gaming era: great visuals and performance, more diversity than ever before and quality games coming almost at a daily basis for all platforms.

@quadknight: Not a Lem! I AM A GAMER! I want everyone to be successful because the last thing I want to see is anyone leaving this industry. We need Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft all to do well so we get AWESOME products! You Cows fucking say you want Microsoft to leave the industry all the fucking time so STFU please!