PS4 to be a repeat of the PS2 era?

Seems like it. PS4 will be the main console for gamers everywhere around the world.

If it launches at >450$ i think it may and probably will if 720 is casual sh*t as we all expect it to be.silversix_

[QUOTE="silversix_"]If it launches at >450$ i think it may and probably will if 720 is casual sh*t as we all expect it to be.fernandmondego_

lol i thought the exact same thing

Quad life. Sony be praised.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]If it launches at >450$ i think it may and probably will if 720 is casual sh*t as we all expect it to be.fernandmondego_

I don't think the economy is in a good enough position for any console to live up to the hype every one seems to be putting out there.nightshade869

The thing needs a price first!.

I really do not understand why the Sony fans are acting like the PS4 is so special. The exclusive games announced is nothing special at all. I honestly do not understand it.CanYouDiglt

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I really do not understand why the Sony fans are acting like the PS4 is so special. The exclusive games announced is nothing special at all. I honestly do not understand it.silversix_

That'd certainly be nice.

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I really do not understand why the Sony fans are acting like the PS4 is so special. The exclusive games announced is nothing special at all. I honestly do not understand it.CanYouDiglt

No, i doubt it will be another PS2. The PS2 was one of the earlier launched console of the 6th gen, with a sweet price point ($300), and the revolutionary DVD-built in player; as well as having a HUGE 3rd party support over competitors.

PS4 on the other hand, $300 price point is not gonna happen given the console power (& Sony performance last gen), we still don't know about the format (but very high chance Sony will go again with bluray this gen, MS will as well). 3rd party support will probably the same as 7th gen (Nintendo got kicked out, MS & Sony share the majority of multiplat). 1st party support, even though subjectively Sony 1st party is better than Nintendo, the majority of Sony 1st party game ain't system seller and generally perform weaker than Nintendo's Mario & Zelda. So yeah, it'll be pretty hard for them to dominate again.

And don't give me that crap casual doesn't sell; the fact that it sells like hot cakes means MS going full casual next gen is not really a bad move for them (but for us, clearly); not to mention MS is pretty good at advertising, unlike Sony.

very doubtful,  

wii took half of ps2s fans away ,   and i believe now its going to be a 3 way split ,   not saying whos being first 2nd or 3rd but they will be all high in terms of sales 

I love how cows said all gen "the PS3 is a supercomputer with teh cell, it dominates everything!" Now they are saying "the PS4 is going to be nothing like the PS3, its going to dominate everything!" Sony seems to have lost site of what good games are. All their games focus on cinematic presentation and they really have no understanding of how online networks are supposed to be. I have a hard time believing all the people that switched to Xbox this gen are going to switch back to Playstation.Miketheman83

Well we have people like you, so yeah, hard to believe indeed.

PS2 was sort of a golden era for Sony. Even with all the wii's success it couldn't beat out the ps2's lifetime sales. With today's low priced games (such the ones you can get for a $1-$5 on the iphone) I would be very surprised to see a repeat of the ps2's success. It would be great though, I'm certaintly not rooting against it.

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]I love how cows said all gen "the PS3 is a supercomputer with teh cell, it dominates everything!" Now they are saying "the PS4 is going to be nothing like the PS3, its going to dominate everything!" Sony seems to have lost site of what good games are. All their games focus on cinematic presentation and they really have no understanding of how online networks are supposed to be. I have a hard time believing all the people that switched to Xbox this gen are going to switch back to Playstation.rjdofu

Well we have people like you, so yeah, hard to believe indeed.

So far I'm on board for PS4, but my only desired game is Lost Guardian.mtron32

xbox had outstanding 3rd party support. ps4 looks strong but who knows. if i remember correctly, the vita was praised and given promises by many devs. what changed? i know they are different platforms but promises aren't always a given. e3 will make things a lot more clear.

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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]I love how cows said all gen "the PS3 is a supercomputer with teh cell, it dominates everything!" Now they are saying "the PS4 is going to be nothing like the PS3, its going to dominate everything!" Sony seems to have lost site of what good games are. All their games focus on cinematic presentation and they really have no understanding of how online networks are supposed to be. I have a hard time believing all the people that switched to Xbox this gen are going to switch back to Playstation.Miketheman83

Well we have people like you, so yeah, hard to believe indeed.

No. The PS2 was the cheapest DVD player when it launched and all tvs could utilize it. The PS3 tried to make this happen again with the BR player but it was not the step up that DVD was from VHS. The PS1 was not hurt by having CD playback. The PS4 has no gimmick this round.

No way I guarantee that PS4 will never reach the levels of PS2.  I bet my account on this. 

No way I guarantee that PS4 will never reach the levels of PS2.  I bet my account on this. 

jimmypsn

No - regardless of how great it ma be the gaming world has changed since the PS2 era. Interesting though you suggest MS is creating an 'entertainment hub' yet one of the attractive selling points of the PS2 was it's capacity to play DVD's. I recal the day when the power of home consoles converged with that of the arcade and the demise of the latter ensued. We'll slowly see a simlar convergence with other handheld devices this upcoming gen - pads/phones/etc/stuff. That's not to say the PS4 won't be great, it just won't be as compelling as the PS2 was. In that regard, perhaps an 'entertainment hub' is a safer direction to head. We shall see...

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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] If Microsoft drops the ball I will have no problem buying a PS4 instead, but I really dont see that happening. Microsoft is a smart company.Miketheman83

No please, just don't touch a PS product !

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No way I guarantee that PS4 will never reach the levels of PS2.  I bet my account on this. 

rjdofu

So many people being harsh to little jimmy ?!?  Please stop, he has a serious case of BUTTHURT !

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="rjdofu"]

Well we have people like you, so yeah, hard to believe indeed.

rjdofu

No, i doubt it will be another PS2. The PS2 was one of the earlier launched console of the 6th gen, with a sweet price point ($300), and the revolutionary DVD-built in player; as well as having a HUGE 3rd party support over competitors.

PS4 on the other hand, $300 price point is not gonna happen given the console power (& Sony performance last gen), we still don't know about the format (but very high chance Sony will go again with bluray this gen, MS will as well). 3rd party support will probably the same as 7th gen (Nintendo got kicked out, MS & Sony share the majority of multiplat). 1st party support, even though subjectively Sony 1st party is better than Nintendo, the majority of Sony 1st party game ain't system seller and generally perform weaker than Nintendo's Mario & Zelda. So yeah, it'll be pretty hard for them to dominate again.

And don't give me that crap casual doesn't sell; the fact that it sells like hot cakes means MS going full casual next gen is not really a bad move for them (but for us, clearly); not to mention MS is pretty good at advertising, unlike Sony.

rjdofu

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="rjdofu"]

Well we have people like you, so yeah, hard to believe indeed.

rjdofu

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

No, i doubt it will be another PS2. The PS2 was one of the earlier launched console of the 6th gen, with a sweet price point ($300), and the revolutionary DVD-built in player; as well as having a HUGE 3rd party support over competitors.

PS4 on the other hand, $300 price point is not gonna happen given the console power (& Sony performance last gen), we still don't know about the format (but very high chance Sony will go again with bluray this gen, MS will as well). 3rd party support will probably the same as 7th gen (Nintendo got kicked out, MS & Sony share the majority of multiplat). 1st party support, even though subjectively Sony 1st party is better than Nintendo, the majority of Sony 1st party game ain't system seller and generally perform weaker than Nintendo's Mario & Zelda. So yeah, it'll be pretty hard for them to dominate again.

And don't give me that crap casual doesn't sell; the fact that it sells like hot cakes means MS going full casual next gen is not really a bad move for them (but for us, clearly); not to mention MS is pretty good at advertising, unlike Sony.

zarshack

I think the market reception will be better than the PS3, but it won't get 1st place in sales

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="rjdofu"] Yes, MS are smart indeed, but focusing mostly on casual doesn't necessarily benefit you as a gamer. As a gamer, you play game, not finance.rjdofu

I just dont understand why you would come to that assumption. Like I said the 360 has has more hardcore games released in the last two years than the PS3. Releasing Kinect doesnt make the console casual. The best consoles were accessible to ALL gamers. The PS2 had more shovelware than the 360 and PS3 combined.

Sony has been releasing plenty of Move games, but nobody says they are focused on casual because Microsoft fans arent that stupid.

Yes I paid for that timed exclusive content but Microsoft made that content available to 360 by paying for it. I dont want to wait for content for my favorite games that everyone else is already playing. Its a big plus in my book to have that stuff early.

If Microsft gets timed exclusive content for GTAV (which will probably be the case) my mind will already be made up which console to buy.

I really do not understand why the Sony fans are acting like the PS4 is so special. The exclusive games announced is nothing special at all. I honestly do not understand it.CanYouDiglt

 [QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Where do you get the idea they are focusing more on casual? Factually the 360 has had more high scoring hardcore games than the PS3 in the last two years. Sony made a lot of stupid decisions last gen that didnt benefit me as a gamer. Microsoft was smart and I did benefit from it. They always made sure Xbox owners got multiplat content first. They made things like Wi-fi and other accessies optional so I didnt have to spend money on things I didnt need. They were smart with their online service and pricing. People need to stop making excuses for Sony because they released the PS1 and PS2. Those were different times.Miketheman83

I just dont understand why you would come to that assumption. Like I said the 360 has has more hardcore games released in the last two years than the PS3. Releasing Kinect doesnt make the console casual. The best consoles were accessible to ALL gamers. The PS2 had more shovelware than the 360 and PS3 combined.

Sony has been releasing plenty of Move games, but nobody says they are focused on casual because Microsoft fans arent that stupid.

Yes I paid for that timed exclusive content but Microsoft made that content available to 360 by paying for it. I dont want to wait for content for my favorite games that everyone else is already playing. Its a big plus in my book to have that stuff early.

If Microsft gets timed exclusive content for GTAV (which will probably be the case) my mind will already be made up which console to buy.

Oh boy, when you are full of cra*p and you don't realize it.

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 [QUOTE="rjdofu"] Didn't make any excuse for Sony, stop assuming everyone criticize MS = supporting Sony. MS is gonna focus on casual, I don't need to explain any further since it's definitely what's gonna happen. And yeah, all the multiplat content, you paid for them, remember?

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 [QUOTE="rjdofu"] Didn't make any excuse for Sony, stop assuming everyone criticize MS = supporting Sony. MS is gonna focus on casual, I don't need to explain any further since it's definitely what's gonna happen. And yeah, all the multiplat content, you paid for them, remember?DISSESHOWEDO

I just dont understand why you would come to that assumption. Like I said the 360 has has more hardcore games released in the last two years than the PS3. Releasing Kinect doesnt make the console casual. The best consoles were accessible to ALL gamers. The PS2 had more shovelware than the 360 and PS3 combined.

Sony has been releasing plenty of Move games, but nobody says they are focused on casual because Microsoft fans arent that stupid.

Yes I paid for that timed exclusive content but Microsoft made that content available to 360 by paying for it. I dont want to wait for content for my favorite games that everyone else is already playing. Its a big plus in my book to have that stuff early.

If Microsft gets timed exclusive content for GTAV (which will probably be the case) my mind will already be made up which console to buy.

Oh boy, when you are full of cra*p and you don't realize it.

I really do not understand why the Sony fans are acting like the PS4 is so special. The exclusive games announced is nothing special at all. I honestly do not understand it.CanYouDiglt