PS4 to support voice recognition, might as well make this camera thing standard.

Isn't just a gimped version of Kinect?

The Kinect gets bashed so hard yet every week it seems the PS4 is emulating another Kinect feature...

With the recent below gif of the seemingly useless use of the PS4 touchpad, pretty soon the PS4 stalwarts will have no room to talk about Kinect.

As if this recently announced feature will be on the Kinects level in this regard anyway...

My God, I'm defending the Kinect rofl... 

^wtf?

Gimped version of Kinect or not It optional.

Optional >>>>>>> Manditory for gimp tech that no-one wants.

Meh people used to complain about Live back then too, what's with these third party applications, I don't want netflix in a gaming machine. What's with these achievements and avatars. I want games dammit.

Then PS3 got them too and by that time people actually wanted all of that.

 

Gimped version of Kinect or not It optional.

Optional >>>>>>> Manditory for gimp tech that no-one wants.

muffin200

If it's not in every box it's a waste of time and money.

Time to sit back and watch the hypocrites roll in.

[QUOTE="muffin200"]

 

Gimped version of Kinect or not It optional.

Optional >>>>>>> Manditory for gimp tech that no-one wants.

Spartan070

You say that like it's a bad thing.

I don't want eye toy animal farm land dance off games and luckly I won't have to pay for the tech to make games i'm never going to buy work.

Meh people used to complain about Live back then too, what's with these third party applications, I don't want netflix in a gaming machine. What's with these achievements and avatars. I want games dammit.

Then PS3 got them too and by that time people actually wanted all of that.

edidili

[QUOTE="edidili"]

Meh people used to complain about Live back then too, what's with these third party applications, I don't want netflix in a gaming machine. What's with these achievements and avatars. I want games dammit.

Then PS3 got them too and by that time people actually wanted all of that.

Spartan070

I think you are missing the main diffrence between the PS4 and The Xbox.

One is a gaming system with shit gimmicks tacked on.

One is a Shit gimmick system with games tacked on.

Yep. Lol xboner is a TV box -> awesome, PS4 to get streaming channel lineup Lol xboner is an app box -> awesome, PS4 to have tons of apps and BBC support Lol Kinect is a gimmick -> sweet, Infamous SS touchpad controls, PS4 voice recognition support, loaded system FTW Lol Wiimote has a speaker -> sweet, speaker in every DS4 will enhance gameplay ROFLCOPTER @da cloud -> gamebreaker, PS4 getting deal with European server company Like wtf? :?Spartan070

Whoever is the first will meet a resistance. People usually react bad to something that is changing their comfort zone, something they're not used to. After they see the value though, if there is a value they will accept it and want it from the others too and say that thing is a standard now.

The problem with kinect though is that is driving up the price of the console too much. 

I think you are missing the main diffrence between the PS4 and The Xbox.

 

One is a gaming system with shit gimmicks tacked on.

One is a Shit gimmick system with games tacked on.

muffin200

Clearly Sony wanted to produce an Xbone but couldn't get it all ready for the reveal. 

This is hilarious really, they are doing the same thing as last gen, just copying features but making them worse :lol:

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Yep.

Lol xboner is a TV box -> awesome, PS4 to get streaming channel lineup

Lol xboner is an app box -> awesome, PS4 to have tons of apps and BBC support

Lol Kinect is a gimmick -> sweet, Infamous SS touchpad controls, PS4 voice recognition support, loaded system FTW

Lol Wiimote has a speaker -> sweet, speaker in every DS4 will enhance gameplay

ROFLCOPTER @da cloud -> gamebreaker, PS4 getting deal with European server company

Like wtf? :?

edidili

Whoever is the first will meet a resistance. People usually react bad to something that is changing their comfort zone, something they're not used to. After they see the value though, if there is a value they will accept it and want it from the others too and say that thing is a standard now.

The problem with kinect though is that is driving up the price of the console too much. 

MS believes that value you speak of is worth it.  I think it may prove to be.

Isn't the Kinect based off of the PSeye toy anyway?
Making it a standard would up the price. You're not giving a good argument why we'd want it as a standard.

Isn't the Kinect based off of the PSeye toy anyway?
Making it a standard would up the price. You're not giving a good argument why we'd want it as a standard.

KungfuKitten

^

So Kinect invented voice recognition now?

I guess this game is just a figment of my imagination:

So Kinect invented voice recognition now?

TheGrat1

No it didn't and neither di that game you posted. Voice recognition has been around for ages now.

Point is voice recognition should be on a console by now mainly because the clunky methods you use to navigate on a console. You're not exactly on the front of a PC with kb/m. Saying "launch x game" is faster than going to your list and scroll down till you find the game you want to launch. Saying "message x" is much faster too and typing the message by just speaking, assuming the tech is good enough beats the crap out of typing with a controller.

That said paying $100 more for that is a bit of a stretch. 

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]

So Kinect invented voice recognition now?

edidili

No it didn't and neither di that game you posted. Voice recognition has been around for ages now.

Point is voice recognition should be on a console by now mainly because the clunky methods you use to navigate on a console. You're not exactly on the front of a PC with kb/m. Saying "launch x game" is faster than going to your list and scroll down till you find the game you want to launch. Saying "message x" is much faster too and typing the message by just speaking, assuming the tech is good enough beats the crap out of typing with a controller.

That said paying $100 more for that is a bit of a stretch. 

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Isn't the Kinect based off of the PSeye toy anyway?
Making it a standard would up the price. You're not giving a good argument why we'd want it as a standard.

Obviously_Right

^

Xbox users didn't ask for the Kinect to be standard.  The company moved in that direction on it's own.

Can you not see the parallels?

It is...inevitable.

If the tech is there, why not implement the feature? Even if less than 1% of users will use it, and im sure Sony is aware of that.

Its not mandatory, thats the most important of it.

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]

So Kinect invented voice recognition now?

edidili

No it didn't and neither di that gameyou posted. Voice recognition has been around for ages now.

Point is voice recognition should be on a console by now mainly because the clunky methods you use to navigate on a console. You're not exactly on the front of a PC with kb/m. Saying "launch x game" is faster than going to your list and scroll down till you find the game you want to launch. Saying "message x" is much faster too and typing the message by just speaking, assuming the tech is good enough beats the crap out of typing with a controller.

That said paying $100 more for that is a bit of a stretch. 

Never said it did. Just pointing out the foolishness of saying the PS4 copied what is basically software from Kinect, despite the fact it easily predates Kinect and was even used on PS3 games.

I, like most people, have no problem using a d-pad to navigate a GUI. I also don't have an issue with instant gratification so the 2.2 seconds longer it takes me to launch the game with the controller will be no big deal.

Like you said $100 (or $60, in the PS4's case) isn't worth it. I wonder, however, if you'll be able to use a headset for the voice commands. I don;t see why not.

I wonder, however, if you'll be able to use a headset for the voice commands. I don;t see why not.

TheGrat1

They can and they should however MS wants for it to be this "futuristic" hands free thing where you enter home and as you're changing you say turn on TV, change to x channel or turn on your whatever audio system you have. Kinect can turn on these devices through ir blaster assuming those devices have that functionality. 

Having to pick up the headset to do that goes a bit against that efortless controlling of the device. 

Isn't the Kinect based off of the PSeye toy anyway?
Making it a standard would up the price. You're not giving a good argument why we'd want it as a standard.

KungfuKitten

 

Never said it did. Just pointing out the foolishness of saying the PS4 copied what is basically software from Kinect, despite the fact it easily predates Kinect and was even used on PS3 games.

 

TheGrat1

That's not my point though, it's eventually going to be a standard feature, the platform is moving in that direction.

It's all about the paradime shift.  Nobody bashed Kinect for inventing something, they bashed it bacause it became standard.  

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]

I wonder, however, if you'll be able to use a headset for the voice commands. I don;t see why not.

edidili

They can and they should however MS wants for it to be this "futuristic" hands free thing where you enter home and as you're changing you say turn on TV, change to x channel or turn on your whatever audio system you have. Kinect can turn on these devices through ir blaster assuming those devices have that functionality. 

Having to pick up the headset to do that goes a bit against that efortless controlling of the device. 

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Isn't the Kinect based off of the PSeye toy anyway?
Making it a standard would up the price. You're not giving a good argument why we'd want it as a standard.

FoxbatAlpha

Developers know this and wont waste resources to include anything that utilizes this in their game. FoxbatAlpha

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Isn't the Kinect based off of the PSeye toy anyway?
Making it a standard would up the price. You're not giving a good argument why we'd want it as a standard.

Spartan070

[QUOTE="edidili"]

Meh people used to complain about Live back then too, what's with these third party applications, I don't want netflix in a gaming machine. What's with these achievements and avatars. I want games dammit.

Then PS3 got them too and by that time people actually wanted all of that.

Spartan070

You're comparing what was meant to be a crucial aspect of the XBone to tertiary aspects of the PS4 that Sony has included peripherally--as in not required for the system to function.

You're overreaching quite a bit. It's rather silly.

 

You're comparing what was meant to be a crucial aspect of the XBone to tertiary aspects of the PS4 that Sony has included peripherally--as in not required for the system to function.

You're overreaching quite a bit. It's rather silly.

Pariah_001

Technically the Kinect isn't required either and compared to the pounding the Kinect and other functions like TV interactivity have recieved here on SW, my post was rather mild.  Nevertheless, my post rings true.  

[QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

 

You're comparing what was meant to be a crucial aspect of the XBone to tertiary aspects of the PS4 that Sony has included peripherally--as in not required for the system to function.

You're overreaching quite a bit. It's rather silly.

Spartan070

Technically the Kinect isn't required either and compared to the pounding the Kinect and other functions like TV interactivity have recieved here on SW, my post was rather mild.  Nevertheless, my post rings true.  

Technically the Kinect isn't required either and compared to the pounding the Kinect and other functions like TV interactivity have recieved here on SW, my post was rather mild.  Nevertheless, my post rings true.  

Spartan070

But people are being forced to pay for it. Even if the product isn't playing that big a role in the xbox anymore after the backpedal, it's still being shoved down the throat of the consumer. The same can't be said for PSEye.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

[QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

 

You're comparing what was meant to be a crucial aspect of the XBone to tertiary aspects of the PS4 that Sony has included peripherally--as in not required for the system to function.

You're overreaching quite a bit. It's rather silly.

handssss

Technically the Kinect isn't required either and compared to the pounding the Kinect and other functions like TV interactivity have recieved here on SW, my post was rather mild.  Nevertheless, my post rings true.  

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Technically the Kinect isn't required either and compared to the pounding the Kinect and other functions like TV interactivity have recieved here on SW, my post was rather mild.  Nevertheless, my post rings true.  

Pariah_001

But people are being forced to pay for it. Even if the product isn't playing that big a role in the xbox anymore after the backpedal, it's still being shoved down the throat of the consumer. The same can't be said for PSEye.

So?  Kinect isn't optional.  It's shoved in our faces by Microsoft.   Not to mention brings the price up $100.

So?  Kinect isn't optional.  It's shoved in our faces by Microsoft.   Not to mention brings the price up $100.

Crossel777

This.

Thank you Sony for allowing us to choose.

So?  Kinect isn't optional.  It's shoved in our faces by Microsoft.   Not to mention brings the price up $100.

Crossel777

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

So?  Kinect isn't optional.  It's shoved in our faces by Microsoft.   Not to mention brings the price up $100.

Obviously_Right

This.

Thank you Sony for allowing us to choose.

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

So?  Kinect isn't optional.  It's shoved in our faces by Microsoft.   Not to mention brings the price up $100.

Obviously_Right

This.

Thank you Sony for allowing us to choose.

So Kinect invented voice recognition now?

TheGrat1

I don't get this either.  Isn't Kinect about reading body movements?  

I see voice recognition already all over the place, particularly in cell phones and cars.  It's not MS tech, and definitely not Kinect.

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

So?  Kinect isn't optional.  It's shoved in our faces by Microsoft.   Not to mention brings the price up $100.

ShoTTyMcNaDeS

This.

Thank you Sony for allowing us to choose.

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]

So Kinect invented voice recognition now?

GunSmith1_basic

I don't get this either.  Isn't Kinect about reading body movements?  

I see voice recognition already all over the place, particularly in cell phones and cars.  It's not MS tech, and definitely not Kinect.

Excpet  the touchpad and camera are options not forced on to the consumer. It is required you buy Kinect for an ectra $100 there's a difference. Also, the toucapd has potential for more controller options in traditional gaming, If done right it can go futher than what kinect is doing.

;)

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]

So Kinect invented voice recognition now?

Spartan070

I don't get this either.  Isn't Kinect about reading body movements?  

I see voice recognition already all over the place, particularly in cell phones and cars.  It's not MS tech, and definitely not Kinect.

It's about who made what standard and who is on their way to standardizing it. Who invented the tech is IRRELEVANT to the point.

If you want kudos from a Playstation 3 owner, I can give it. I really liked the voice recognition stuff the 360 was doing, particularly with Skyrim, but I was really impressed with the voice recognition stuff being used to communicate with the console on the XB1.  That aspect was not done first on an xbox platform.  It is a utility function moreso than a gaming one, and was made standard in phones for use in cars.

What I was talking about, what I don't like, is for voice recognition to be called Kinect because Kinect is total garbage. Kinect is motion sensing.  It was brought to mass market to compete with the wii. 

Even in this thread, the guy I was quoting was talking about motion gaming, when the issue was voice recognition.  TC made a thread about voice recognition, and yet s/he suggests that Sony make a CAMERA standard.  

This is the wii all over again.  I hated the motion sensing, but loved the IR pointer.  They aren't the same!

[QUOTE="muffin200"]

 

Gimped version of Kinect or not It optional.

Optional >>>>>>> Manditory for gimp tech that no-one wants.

Spartan070