The first party line-up looks abysmal, third parties exclusivity deals will have to carry the console.
The first party line-up looks abysmal, third parties exclusivity deals will have to carry the console.
Lol, what are you on about? The only claim I made was an implication that first party games do in fact matter. I backed it up by answering that, yes, they do in fact matter.
As for:
"What the hell are you taking about?"; well that's a double-doozy right there, lil buddy, two for the price of one, and all it took was calling out your lack of ability to back up your claims, lol:
I got you spinning aimlessly and now you are trying the triggered strategy.😂
You cited third party games and when asked about first party mattering you spun out of control and now you are trying to claim the opposite.
Feel free point to the section of your initial comment in which you back it up with evidence? I will wait.😏
Yeah, Rise of the Ronin, Silent Hill 2. Should be good times.
Obsession over 1st party in this case is just mindless fan boy crap.
@HalcyonScarlet: I think you are confusing 1st party games with exclusives; Sony fans have been obsessed with exclusives since PS1 times (especially PS1 times). Why would Sony fans be dismissive of 3rd party exclusives?
To the contrary, they have been obsessed with first party games. Now that they have none currently schedule for next year, they are backpedaling viciously.
The first party line-up looks abysmal, third parties exclusivity deals will have to carry the console.
No argument there. It's obviously their strategy for now.
Personally, first party has sucked for a while. But can't argue the success it has seen.
I guess you should ask Sony.
I rely on your insight into the knowledge I lack about Sony's first-party titles.😎
You have stock in SONY. I would leverage that and demand details that you can share with group.
We must know!
Well, Pedro used to claim that he has friends at Sony who give him his discounts on Sony first party games. So he could ask them 🤣
Well, Pedro used to claim that he has friends at Sony who give him his discounts on Sony first party games. So he could ask them 🤣
If only you took a moment to think you would know that any respectable employee would not share confidential information but you are not known for thinking.😏
@loudheadphones: nah, you’re the one spinning here. A PlayStation ip doesn’t make it a 1st party game. Just an exclusive 3rd party game.
For a game to be 2nd party, PlayStation needs to own part of the studio like Nintendo and Rare. But this isn’t even that.
If Sony owns IP, funded and published by them, it is a first party game. Same as Dusk Falls.
@Pedro: Generation wars have become irrelevant. Most hit games in recent years are cross platform.
The days when PS/Xbox exclusives raised eyebrows has long gone. This is the era of multiplatform games, and I believe both Xbox Series X and PS5 do a great job with most cross platform games.
@Pedro: Generation wars have become irrelevant. Most hit games in recent years are cross platform.
The days when PS/Xbox exclusives raised eyebrows has long gone. This is the era of multiplatform games, and I believe both Xbox Series X and PS5 do a great job with most cross platform games.
Multiplatform games and its dominance as of late is great for gamers. However, that wouldn't stop me from making fun of Sony fannies.😏
That “50 million units sold” is hitting home for some of the lems I see.
Since when did ONLY 1st party exclusives matter?
At least Sony still believes in exclusives to some extent.
True.
When loosing Sales and have no exclusives at all, it's something they try to hang on to.
Since when did ONLY 1st party exclusives matter?
Lol, literally never. But don't tell TC (even though he already knows, but won't admit it).
Yeah, Rise of the Ronin, Silent Hill 2. Should be good times.
Obsession over 1st party in this case is just mindless fan boy crap.
Wait - now 1st party doesn't matter?
Yep! They keep changing their tune every time Sony flip-flops.😂
I am loving the double standard. In Jan, 2022, all these cows were talking about the imminent death of Xbox because there were no real 1st party games for 2022. That story was told over and over again well into 2023.
Now that the shoe is on the other foot, the story changes - 1st party doesn't matter now.
And these cows wonder why "Sony Pony" is such an insult on the internet...
@loudheadphones: nah, you’re the one spinning here. A PlayStation ip doesn’t make it a 1st party game. Just an exclusive 3rd party game.
For a game to be 2nd party, PlayStation needs to own part of the studio like Nintendo and Rare. But this isn’t even that.
If Sony owns IP, funded and published by them, it is a first party game. Same as Dusk Falls.
No, that's a 2nd party game. 1st party games are gamed developed by a studio owned by the company.
Insomniac = 1st party
Square Enix = 2nd party
That “50 million units sold” is hitting home for some of the lems I see.
Since when did ONLY 1st party exclusives matter?
At least Sony still believes in exclusives to some extent.
Since your faction made that the standard but you have conveniently forgotten.🤭
I love this thread so much 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Me too, shows how SONY is dominating both sales and exclusives with hard cold facts.
Hats off to SONY for their hard word, dedication and of course passion for us gamers.
So much that you caved and purchased an Xbox.😏
Wait, let me get this straight. Now first party developed games don't matter? Good lord. This thread is about first party developed games, and all the cows are talking about is 3rd party multiplatform games.
This thread delivers 😛
I love this thread so much 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Me too, shows how SONY is dominating both sales and exclusives with hard cold facts.
Hats off to SONY for their hard word, dedication and of course passion for us gamers.
So much that you caved and purchased an Xbox.😏
Being the unbiased gamer I am and have always been..yup ;)
I find the conversation around 1st party vs 2nd party quite interesting because the difference means so little in practice. lol
You can get into the weeds of who owns the IP etc. but, what really matters is the association of "a game from PlayStation". You'll boot up a game like Rise of the Ronin and, one of the first things you'll see is "PlayStation Studios". I'm not sure about you but, a game that boots up with "PlayStation Studios" sends a pretty clear sign that it's a game from PlayStation. The best test of all is showing the intro to someone who has no idea what studios are "1st party". That person will say it's a game from PlayStation 99.9% of the time. It's such a super common practice in film and television to the point where practically nobody cares who's actually producing the content but rather who's distributing it.
This is again a conversation that does little to nothing in terms of trying to understand PlayStation's content catalog.
The Playstation doesn't need first party games to kick the Xboxes arse they just kick it.
The fact they have got some console exclusives including the Most Anticipated Game of The Year just adds to it.
Xboxers have to hope that modders make that failure Starfield playable as Bethesda still has no interest in making a complete game.
The Playstation doesn't need first party games to kick the Xboxes arse they just kick it.
The fact they have got some console exclusives including the Most Anticipated Game of The Year just adds to it.
Xboxers have to hope that modders make that failure Starfield playable as Bethesda still has no interest in making a complete game.
PlayStation doesn't need first-party games to kick Xbox's ass? If that was true they would not have focused on first-party games at the start of the generation. Now you folks are changing the narrative when their first-party games are lacking. Interwesting.🤭
The Playstation doesn't need first party games to kick the Xboxes arse they just kick it.
The fact they have got some console exclusives including the Most Anticipated Game of The Year just adds to it.
Xboxers have to hope that modders make that failure Starfield playable as Bethesda still has no interest in making a complete game.
PlayStation doesn't need first-party games to kick Xbox's ass? If that was true they would not have focused on first-party games at the start of the generation. Now you folks are changing the narrative when their first-party games are lacking. Interwesting.🤭
Hold up. So now first-party games matter?
Hold up. So now first-party games matter?
Look at you trying.🤭
Lol, just asking, dude. Simple yes or no.
I mean, it should be simple.
The Playstation doesn't need first party games to kick the Xboxes arse they just kick it.
The fact they have got some console exclusives including the Most Anticipated Game of The Year just adds to it.
Xboxers have to hope that modders make that failure Starfield playable as Bethesda still has no interest in making a complete game.
True. With SONY a winning culture is just a given, and by golly, us gamers are reaping the benefits.
50 million PS5 have made the lems lose their mind. And who in the hell thought Wolverine was releasing next year?
Yeah, Rise of the Ronin, Silent Hill 2. Should be good times.
Obsession over 1st party in this case is just mindless fan boy crap.
So, first-party games no longer matter?🤔
fact is xbox had no third party exclusives on top of first party except forza and halo for quite sometime. 2 years in the series x life cycle.
@nod_calypse: “Obsession over 1st party in this case is just mindless fan boy crap.”
Eh, cows have been the ones telling us since the PS1 days that only 1st party exclusives count.
Now PS5 has no “games” by the cows own standards next year, it’s “fanboy crap”?
We’ve always said games were games.
Uh, they do count. 1st is hugely important to Sony, obviously. Not that I've cared about their offerings for a while, but still.
Doesn't change the fact that Sony has two 3rd party games coming out next year that I'm looking forward to.
on top of vr titles like vex, res4 and more.
these are the upcoming exclusives or console exclusives set between 2024 and 2025.
these are the upcoming exclusives or console exclusives set between 2024 and 2025.
First party.😏
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