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#1 regnaston
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Well some eagle eyed users have seen that the HDMI Cable that comes with the PS5 is not HDMI 2.1 compliant. So that means if you have or are getting a TV that supports HDMI 2.1 you have to buy your own cable

https://www.xboxdynasty.de/news/playstation-5/beiliegendes-hdmi-kabel-unterstuetzt-anscheinend-kein-hdmi-2-1-mit-4k-und-120-hz-update/

The link is in German so you will have to use the auto translate feature of your browser

Here is a a video that shows the unboxing and shows the labeling of the cable

PlayStation "Pay has no limits"

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#2 uninspiredcup
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This reminds me of the shit they pulled with the Playstation Classic. Wires too short, no power adapter.

They sure love to cheap out.

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#3  Edited By speedytimsi
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4K 120 is utterly impossible at this time unless you shell out like a lotta money. There's probably 1% of the population that even have the build to do 4k 120fps. And i'm not even counting Ray tracking.

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#4 lundy86_4
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Gotta cut those costs on the actual boxing of the console and the HDMI cable? Jeez. I have 2 cables capable of 4K/120 and I bought them last year... I don't even have a 4k/120 capable display yet.

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#5  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@speedytimsi said:

4K 120 is utterly impossible at this time unless you shell out like a lotta money. There's probably 1% of the population that even have the build to do 4k 120fps. And i'm not even counting Ray tracking.

Barely any difference, have 2 4K TV's sitting in this house. Happily opt for the closer 1080.

People call VR a gimmick, while paying thousand+ for that shit.

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#6 regnaston
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@speedytimsi said:

4K 120 is utterly impossible at this time unless you shell out like a lotta money. There's probably 1% of the population that even have the build to do 4k 120fps. And i'm not even counting Ray tracking.

and your point? They are marketing this as a 8K/4K machine capable of 120HZ at 4K .. without a proper cable it cant do that.. they cheaped out

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Careful, that Sage chicken dude is gonna have an aneurysm.

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#8 Ibacai
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4k120 and PS5...good joke.

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#9 regnaston
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@Ibacai said:

4k120 and PS5...good joke.

well yeah :D

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#10 hardwenzen
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Something tells me that the coming week will be very stressful for me and my fellow cows. After the NDA lift, lots of hidden lies will be uncovered, and that's frustrating.

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#11 regnaston
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@hardwenzen said:

Something tells me that the coming week will be very stressful for me and my fellow cows. After the NDA lift, lots of hidden lies will be uncovered, and that's frustrating.

MS crapped the bed last generation with some very stupid decisions because they felt they had the momentum going in.. Sony is doing some dumb stuff this time around because they felt they had the momentum

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#12 NathanDrakeSwag
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I already have an HDMI 2.1 cable so this is a non issue.

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#13 regnaston
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

I already have an HDMI 2.1 cable so this is a non issue.

good for you but that does not make it a "non issue" you should not have to go and buy a compatible cable for a system that says it is HDMI 2.1 because they decide to save about 4 or 5 bucks by shipping a non compliant cable with it

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#14 Chutebox
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@regnaston: you act like saving 5 bucks a ps5 isn't a huge deal.

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#15 hardwenzen
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@regnaston said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

I already have an HDMI 2.1 cable so this is a non issue.

good for you but that does not make it a "non issue" you should not have to go and buy a compatible cable for a system that says it is HDMI 2.1 because they decide to save about 4 or 5 bucks by shipping a non compliant cable with it

Sony was most likely expecting to sell the system at $600, but when MS announced their price, they had no choice but to match it. Now they're cutting corners everywhere they can.

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@regnaston said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

I already have an HDMI 2.1 cable so this is a non issue.

good for you but that does not make it a "non issue" you should not have to go and buy a compatible cable for a system that says it is HDMI 2.1 because they decide to save about 4 or 5 bucks by shipping a non compliant cable with it

It shouldn't be a problem for anyone dropping $500 on a console. You lems are looking for any way to compensate for having zero first party games.

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#17 regnaston
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@Chutebox said:

@regnaston: you act like saving 5 bucks a ps5 isn't a huge deal.

LOL if Sony can't afford to build and ship a proper console without cutting corners then they should rethink whether they want to be in the business

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#18 regnaston
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@regnaston said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

I already have an HDMI 2.1 cable so this is a non issue.

good for you but that does not make it a "non issue" you should not have to go and buy a compatible cable for a system that says it is HDMI 2.1 because they decide to save about 4 or 5 bucks by shipping a non compliant cable with it

It shouldn't be a problem for anyone dropping $500 on a console. You lems are looking for any way to compensate for having zero first party games.

lol sure.. make it about the XBOX

Face it Sony cheaped out

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#19 HitmanActual
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Haha I bet there’s more they will cheap out on. Shitty cheap components, poor build quality, usual Sony cost cutting. They can’t afford to build quality.

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#20  Edited By Chutebox
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@regnaston: They seem to be doing fine...

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#21  Edited By deactivated-5fd4737f5f083
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That's really poor form on Sony's part if true.

Edit: I see it is not true and the OP is a banana.

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#22 tormentos
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@regnaston:

Xboxdynasty.de ?

Seriously this is your source and xbox site no one knows?

Should i bag this thread on the bag of your fake developer who claimed the PS5 had DLSS, and your fake thread about the fake inside of the PS5 which you delated?

Loading Video...

While DF say they can't confirm anything on the OS level, one of them confirm the cable does function properly on his LG TV.

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Looks like the cable is 2.1. At least according to this:

https://www.psu.com/news/the-ps5-ships-with-a-hdmi-2-1-cable/#:~:text=PS5%20HDMI%202.1%20Cable%20Confirmed&text=Sony's%20new%20console%20will%20support,immerse%20players%20in%20their%20games.

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@Zero_epyon said:

Looks like the cable is 2.1. At least according to this:

https://www.psu.com/news/the-ps5-ships-with-a-hdmi-2-1-cable/#:~:text=PS5%20HDMI%202.1%20Cable%20Confirmed&text=Sony's%20new%20console%20will%20support,immerse%20players%20in%20their%20games.

Thread backfire for TC.

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#25  Edited By tormentos
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@Zero_epyon said:

Looks like the cable is 2.1. At least according to this:

https://www.psu.com/news/the-ps5-ships-with-a-hdmi-2-1-cable/#:~:text=PS5%20HDMI%202.1%20Cable%20Confirmed&text=Sony's%20new%20console%20will%20support,immerse%20players%20in%20their%20games.

lol That is the second thread from @regnastonthat you kill..😂😂

Lets see if he delete this one as well, the poor lemming sure feels insecure..

@regnaston said:
@Chutebox said:

@regnaston: you act like saving 5 bucks a ps5 isn't a huge deal.

LOL if Sony can't afford to build and ship a proper console without cutting corners then they should rethink whether they want to be in the business

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#26 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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What a clown, what you get my jumping the gun on uncredible sources.

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#27 rzxv04
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What's going on?

So many potential fake news. Demon RT and now this.

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#28 sealionact
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@NathanDrakeSwag: Did you even watch the video? They clearly say "It's the same hdmi cable that ships with the PS4 pro".

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#29  Edited By regnaston
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@Zero_epyon said:

Looks like the cable is 2.1. At least according to this:

https://www.psu.com/news/the-ps5-ships-with-a-hdmi-2-1-cable/#:~:text=PS5%20HDMI%202.1%20Cable%20Confirmed&text=Sony's%20new%20console%20will%20support,immerse%20players%20in%20their%20games.

the video at that link the guy says "is the same one that ships with the PS4 Pro" even though someone in the comments is saying that the PS4 Pro did not ship with a cable (can someone confirm that?)

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@NathanDrakeSwag: Did you even watch the video? They clearly say "It's the same hdmi cable that ships with the PS4 pro".

Did you watch the video i posted from DF and the link Zero posted now who has more credibility?

That site or DF and PSU?

You lemmings are a joke.😂

By the way this is not the first fake news your friend share here, he make a thread about the PS5 inside which he delete when some one exposed it was fake, and he make a thread about a fake PS developer as well which i shot down as well.

In other words TC is a very insecure lemming who love shitty sources and fake news.

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Seems Lems can't enjoy their console without having to spread FUD about Playstation. It'll be in vain, Playstation will dominate as always.

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@regnaston said:

(can someone confirm that?)

The Pro shipped with a 2.0 cable (18GB/s). I believe 4K/120 was supported, but not with HDR. Someone correct me if wrong.

This shit gets more and more confusing as we go on.

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@regnaston said:

the video at that link the guy says "is the same one that ships with the PS4 Pro" even though someone in the comments is saying that the PS4 Pro did not ship with a cable (can someone confirm that?)

Packing a console with the incorrect cables is as sad as packing a console with a wireless controller but without a rechargeable battery.

Ill await the extra damage control my comment will cause to some.

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#34 Pedro
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No HDMI 2.1

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#35  Edited By Zaryia
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It struggles to do 4k 60fps on low settings with changing resolutions. It struggles to do 30 fps on 4k with RT. And that's with cross-gen games.

How in the planet would you expect 4k 120 in anything but old gen or indy games?

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@zaryia said:

It struggles to do 4k 60fps on low settings with changing resolutions. It struggles to do 30 fps on 4k with RT. And that's with cross-gen games.

How in the planet would you expect 4k 120 in anything but old gen or indy games?

Just like your 1060 GTX.🤣

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@tormentos: Yes, the link zero posted states that the cable shipped with the ps5 is the same one shipped with the PS4 pro, DF said "Surely this is a 2.1 cable, there has been some confusion" and closeups of the cable show it says "High speed", not "Ultra high speed" as required.

I mean, I don't care personally....but if Sony have shipped a console with 4k/8k 120 printed on the box with a 2.0 cable, that would be so petty.

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@tormentos said:
@zaryia said:

It struggles to do 4k 60fps on low settings with changing resolutions. It struggles to do 30 fps on 4k with RT. And that's with cross-gen games.

How in the planet would you expect 4k 120 in anything but old gen or indy games?

Just like your 1060 GTX.🤣

Fake.

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poor cows cant catch a break hah

xbox..for the players!

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@sealionact said:

@tormentos: Yes, the link zero posted states that the cable shipped with the ps5 is the same one shipped with the PS4 pro, DF said "Surely this is a 2.1 cable, there has been some confusion" and closeups of the cable show it says "High speed", not "Ultra high speed" as required.

I mean, I don't care personally....but if Sony have shipped a console with 4k/8k 120 printed on the box with a 2.0 cable, that would be so petty.

Yeah did hear the part were he claim it work PROPERLY ON ITS LG CX?

Exactly as pretty as selling a console with a wireless controller with no rechargeable battery and which you people for 3 generations on a row including this new one defend.

The level of hypocrisy in your camp is out of this world.😂

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#41  Edited By regnaston
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@lundy86_4 said:
@regnaston said:

(can someone confirm that?)

The Pro shipped with a 2.0 cable (18GB/s). I believe 4K/120 was supported, but not with HDR. Someone correct me if wrong.

This shit gets more and more confusing as we go on.

The Cable in the video I posted has the markings "High Speed HDMI Cable E321011"

https://www.lifewire.com/hdmi-cables-and-connectors-what-you-need-to-know-4685377 that link has specs on what "High Speed means"

And here is a link to the actual cable

https://tech-shop.org/high-speed-hdmi-cable-e321011-awm-20276-80c-30v-vw-1-luxshare-ict-2m-free-pandp/94486/

So according to the markings on the actual cable it is not 2.1

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@tormentos said:
@sealionact said:

@tormentos: Yes, the link zero posted states that the cable shipped with the ps5 is the same one shipped with the PS4 pro, DF said "Surely this is a 2.1 cable, there has been some confusion" and closeups of the cable show it says "High speed", not "Ultra high speed" as required.

I mean, I don't care personally....but if Sony have shipped a console with 4k/8k 120 printed on the box with a 2.0 cable, that would be so petty.

Yeah did hear the part were he claim it work PROPERLY ON ITS LG CX?

Exactly as pretty as selling a console with a wireless controller with no rechargeable battery and which you people for 3 generations on a row including this new one defend.

The level of hypocrisy in your camp is out of this world.😂

Lol..."working properly" means he sees video. Nowhere did he say it's a 2.1 cable, and nowhere did he say 4k 120 is working properly.

Read it and weep cows. Sony cheaped you out again....😂😂😂

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@sealionact said:

Lol..."working properly" means he sees video. Nowhere did he say it's a 2.1 cable, and nowhere did he say 4k 120 is working properly.

Read it and weep cows. Sony cheaped you out again....😂😂😂

He say he could not talk about anything os then say it worked properly on is TV.

Well look at it this way, the Series X lack USBC, Wifi 6 and rechargeable batteries so who is cheapening the most here? 🤣🤣🤣

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@bluestars said:

poor cows cant catch a break hah

xbox..for the players!

What first party XSX launch titles are you looking forward to?

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@tormentos: Quick! Sony is screwing you over again....deflect! Deflect! Deflect! 😂😂😂😂

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If the PS5 is a 8k machine I expect the box to be at least 4k. Very disappointed, preorder cancelled.

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#47  Edited By rzxv04
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@sealionact said:
@tormentos said:
@sealionact said:

@tormentos: Yes, the link zero posted states that the cable shipped with the ps5 is the same one shipped with the PS4 pro, DF said "Surely this is a 2.1 cable, there has been some confusion" and closeups of the cable show it says "High speed", not "Ultra high speed" as required.

I mean, I don't care personally....but if Sony have shipped a console with 4k/8k 120 printed on the box with a 2.0 cable, that would be so petty.

Yeah did hear the part were he claim it work PROPERLY ON ITS LG CX?

Exactly as pretty as selling a console with a wireless controller with no rechargeable battery and which you people for 3 generations on a row including this new one defend.

The level of hypocrisy in your camp is out of this world.😂

Lol..."working properly" means he sees video. Nowhere did he say it's a 2.1 cable, and nowhere did he say 4k 120 is working properly.

Read it and weep cows. Sony cheaped you out again....😂😂😂

Cheap cable confirmed?

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#48 BassMan
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@lundy86_4 said:
@regnaston said:

(can someone confirm that?)

The Pro shipped with a 2.0 cable (18GB/s). I believe 4K/120 was supported, but not with HDR. Someone correct me if wrong.

This shit gets more and more confusing as we go on.

You need an HDMI 2.1 (48 Gbps) cable for 4K/120. It would be pathetic if they packaged an old 18Gbps cable with the PS5.

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#49 Bluestars
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@NathanDrakeSwag:

yakuza,gears tactics

what ‘generations’ launch day titles you looking forward too?

oof HaH

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#50 NathanDrakeSwag
Member since 2013 • 17392 Posts

@bluestars said:

@NathanDrakeSwag:

yakuza,gears tactics

what ‘generations’ launch day titles you looking forward too?

oof HaH

Microsoft owns Sega? You Xbots are so deprived of games that you don't even know what first party means. Gears Tactics 🤣😂🤣

I'll be enjoying the masterpieces Demons Souls and Miles Morales. Have fun waiting 2 years for games...that will probably suck because Microsoft directors are dropping like flies 😇