PS5 can't do 4K120 from the Box

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#101  Edited By deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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Understandable. 4K cables are expensive. Many people are still on 1080p.

@lamprey263 said:

I paid $600 for my phat PS3 and it didn't even come with HDMI or component cables, just a worthless pair of composit for non SD output. Also, my SIXAXIS had no rumble. But at least it could play PS2 games.

I think most PS3 owners played with composite in the beginning. I remember games still having bigger text back then, at launch. I didn't get an HD display for it until much later.

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#102 PC_Rocks
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You can do 4K/120 on HDMI 2.0b.

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#103  Edited By BassMan
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@pc_rocks said:

You can do 4K/120 on HDMI 2.0b.

4K/120 @ 4:4:4/RGB Full 10 bit HDR? Nope. Still limited to 18Gbps and having to butcher quality to try and accommodate that bandwidth. That is before even factoring things like VRR, ALLM, eARC, etc. and trying to get those to work properly. So, let's be real.... HDMI 2.0b is not a viable option.

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#104 Archangel3371
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@tormentos: Sure, whatever you say pal. 👍😅

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#105 MonsieurX
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@tormentos said:
@MonsieurX said:

Cows defending this just like Apple fans defended the lack of any cables/power supply with the new iPhone

PS5 has a cable.

Iphones don't have cables and some how you think is the same?

@Archangel3371 said:

Not a good look for Sony.

If we change the name from sony to MS, you would be saying now how you don't have a problem with this. 😂😂😂

@bluestars said:

Sony spent all their budget putting a vest top on the controller...so buy your own ultra high speed cable

hah

Or they simple shifted to other places were MS cheapen out.

Controler.

Wifi 6

USB - C

Rechargeable battery for the 3rd time in a row.

PS5 doesn't have the right cable to fulfill its promise

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#106  Edited By JoshRMeyer
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Literally took me 5 secs to google this. Can TC change title now and eat some crow while at it? Lol

"Following the onslaught of PS5 unboxing videos earlier today, it’s now been confirmed that Sony’s next-generation console will ship with a HMDI 2.1 cable as expected."

https://www.psu.com/news/the-ps5-ships-with-a-hdmi-2-1-cable/#:~:text=Following%20the%20onslaught%20of%20PS5,HMDI%202.1%20cable%20as%20expected.

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#107 deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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@joshrmeyer said:

Literally took me 5 secs to google this. Can TC change title now and eat some crow while at it? Lol

"Following the onslaught of PS5 unboxing videos earlier today, it’s now been confirmed that Sony’s next-generation console will ship with a HMDI 2.1 cable as expected."

https://www.psu.com/news/the-ps5-ships-with-a-hdmi-2-1-cable/#:~:text=Following%20the%20onslaught%20of%20PS5,HMDI%202.1%20cable%20as%20expected.

That's not exactly a trusted source. Far as we know, it could be anyone who posts here making an article on PSU. lol PSU

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#108 PC_Rocks
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@BassMan said:
@pc_rocks said:

You can do 4K/120 on HDMI 2.0b.

4K/120 @ 4:4:4/RGB Full 10 bit HDR? Nope. Still limited to 18Gbps and having to butcher quality to try and accommodate that bandwidth. That is before even factoring things like VRR, ALLM, eARC, etc. and trying to get those to work properly. So, let's be real.... HDMI 2.0b is not a viable option.

Never claimed with full HDR.

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#109 Tonycapil
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@sirk1264 said:

Let’s be real here. Both systems will not be playing games at 4K 120 unless they are indie games that don’t require a lot of power from either system. We are more likely looking at 1440 120 for this gen with AAA games and therefore you won’t need a hdmi 2.1 cable for that.

Unfortunately fanboys are blinded by this reality which renders the entire post useless. Enjoy pac-man at 120fps to take advantage of the 120hz lmfao.

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#110 Pedro
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People have to stop the false narrative that indie games are simple/low budget 2d/3d games. Ryse is an indie game yet people still believe Ori is an indie game.😂🤣

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#111  Edited By Telekill
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My TV came with a 2.1 cable. My PS4 is already hooked up with it. Now my PS5 will be hooked up with it. Pretty easy.

Also, a quick Google search shows various sources stating it comes with an HDMI 2.1 cable that's 1.5 meters long. My search also showed a blurb about XSeX's port... the HDMI 2.1 port on the system itself has a compatibility problem. I didn't bother reading the article.

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#112 Tonycapil
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@Pedro said:

People have to stop the false narrative that indie games are simple/low budget 2d/3d games. Ryse is an indie game yet people still believe Ori is an indie game.😂🤣

When you compare budget sizes compared to AAA, then yes they are of a lower budget monetary wise. Literally. With that being said, I'm not saying that indie games are not of quality or fun at all. Ryse was a real shitty repetitive game to be honest.

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#113 LouiXIII
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@regnaston said:
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@regnaston said:
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I already have an HDMI 2.1 cable so this is a non issue.

good for you but that does not make it a "non issue" you should not have to go and buy a compatible cable for a system that says it is HDMI 2.1 because they decide to save about 4 or 5 bucks by shipping a non compliant cable with it

It shouldn't be a problem for anyone dropping $500 on a console. You lems are looking for any way to compensate for having zero first party games.

lol sure.. make it about the XBOX

Face it Sony cheaped out

I'm sorry but I'll gladly deal with a cable issue versus buying a console that's marketed as being next gen but can't do ray tracing on a last gen game like Devil May Cry AND can't hit 60FPS on PUBG after the company claimed that it could...

Not that's what I consider to be "cheap'd out"

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#114 deactivated-5fab1400b2fcc
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Not the worst thing Sony has done. Not cool, but might be a cost cutting measure or maybe a cash grab. Sony will sell you one for 59.99!

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#115 Eoten
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Was anybody really dumb enough to think you were going to get real games that were actually capable of 4K120? I mean, really?

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#116 HalcyonScarlet
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@tormentos said:
@zaryia said:

It struggles to do 4k 60fps on low settings with changing resolutions. It struggles to do 30 fps on 4k with RT. And that's with cross-gen games.

How in the planet would you expect 4k 120 in anything but old gen or indy games?

Just like your 1060 GTX.🤣

Because Nvidia claimed it could? :-S

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#117 SecretPolice
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Per usual, cows just love it..

lol :P

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#118 pmanden
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The PS5 will easily be able to do 4K/120 fps on ultra settings with full raytracing on.

Nah, just kidding. I will be more than happy if we just get 4K/60 fps, maybe with a little bit of raytracing.

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#119 Phlop_Spencer
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@regnaston said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Looks like the cable is 2.1. At least according to this:

https://www.psu.com/news/the-ps5-ships-with-a-hdmi-2-1-cable/#:~:text=PS5%20HDMI%202.1%20Cable%20Confirmed&text=Sony's%20new%20console%20will%20support,immerse%20players%20in%20their%20games.

the video at that link the guy says "is the same one that ships with the PS4 Pro" even though someone in the comments is saying that the PS4 Pro did not ship with a cable (can someone confirm that?)

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Pure FUD as usual from you. The PS4 pro did not come with this Hdmi cable. You should be banned for you sensationalist bullshit headline

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#120 Pedro
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PS5 owners can always buy the HDMI 2.1 cables with all the money they are saving not buying AA batteries. 😉

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#121 regnaston
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@phlop_spencer said:
@regnaston said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Looks like the cable is 2.1. At least according to this:

https://www.psu.com/news/the-ps5-ships-with-a-hdmi-2-1-cable/#:~:text=PS5%20HDMI%202.1%20Cable%20Confirmed&text=Sony's%20new%20console%20will%20support,immerse%20players%20in%20their%20games.

the video at that link the guy says "is the same one that ships with the PS4 Pro" even though someone in the comments is saying that the PS4 Pro did not ship with a cable (can someone confirm that?)

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Pure FUD as usual from you. The PS4 pro did not come with this Hdmi cable. You should be banned for you sensationalist bullshit headline

the saltiness of your tears is epic

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#122 Eoten
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@pmanden said:

The PS5 will easily be able to do 4K/120 fps on ultra settings with full raytracing on.

Nah, just kidding. I will be more than happy if we just get 4K/60 fps, maybe with a little bit of raytracing.

Yeah, that's not going to happen. Even with games that are many years old now, equivalent PC hardware struggles to get more than 40fps with ray tracing on 1080P. You can have 4K, you can have 120FPS, or you can have ray tracing... but you can only have one of those things at a time.

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#123 Bluestars
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@NathanDrakeSwag:

yakuzu is a launch exclusives...and 23 Xbox studios games you refuse to play because of an emotional attachment to. console means your child like fannyboy damage control about launch means shit to me HaH

cows mad disease

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#124 NathanDrakeSwag
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@bluestars said:

@NathanDrakeSwag:

yakuzu is a launch exclusives...and 23 Xbox studios games you refuse to play because of an emotional attachment to. console means your child like fannyboy damage control about launch means shit to me HaH

cows mad disease

Yakuza is exclusive for 3 months lol. You're grasping at straws right now, kid.

Sure lets talk about their other studios. Halo Infinites director just left 343. Everwilds director just left Rare. Great start for their studios heading into next gen 😂

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#125 tormentos
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@bluestars:

Yakuza Will be on PS4 so is totally playable on PS5 by BC and when the update versión arrives is free.

So in other words is not launch exclusive at all,hell it will be on PC and xbox one same day as well.

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#126  Edited By hardwenzen
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Everwilds director left before the studio even knew what that game is supposed to be, and they've developing the damn thing for like five plus years🤣

And people hate on Sony. They always deliver and nobody is leaving because their studios aren't a clusterfuck.

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#127 me2002
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Ori is 4K 120

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#128 Eoten
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@me2002 said:

Ori is 4K 120

You mean the side scrolling platformer?

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#129 Pedro
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@eoten: You didn't know it was a side scroller?

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#130  Edited By tormentos
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@regnaston said:
@phlop_spencer said:

Pure FUD as usual from you. The PS4 pro did not come with this Hdmi cable. You should be banned for you sensationalist bullshit headline

the saltiness of your tears is epic

At this point we want to correct the spread of the misinformation regarding the HDMI 2.1 cable of the PS5. As Sony confirmed to GamePro.de, the cable is actually an HDMI cable that supports the 2.1 standard.

The general confusion arose from the fact that the PS5 cable that came with the package did not have the label "Ultra-High-Speed" specifically intended for HDMI 2.1 cables. The label should always be on a cable with 2.1 standard, according to an interview by Golem.de with the HDMI licensing marketing director Brad Bramy . Since only "High-Speed" was to be found here, we also assumed that HDMI 2.1 would not be supported without additional accessories.

We apologize for the confusion. The following news has been adjusted to remove the misinformation.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-confirms-ps5-will-have-a-hdmi-2-1-cable.318583/

So its official we can bag this shitty thread of your under the same file of your fake PS developer interview and your now erase thread about the PS5 inside which used a PS3 slim mother board.

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#131 regnaston
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and yet the tweet that references in that thread has been deleted

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#132 Mozelleple112
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Wait, so you're telling me if I didn't already own 4 HDMI 2.1 certified cables I would have to spend the $0.3 to buy one?!

The audacity.

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#133 regnaston
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The thread that the tormented one references has a deleted tweet in the initial post that was supposed to verify the HDMI 2.1 cable which is laughable and then this post in the thread .. thanks for source that verifies it is 2.0

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#134  Edited By BassMan
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@Mozelleple112 said:

Wait, so you're telling me if I didn't already own 4 HDMI 2.1 certified cables I would have to spend the $0.3 to buy one?!

The audacity.

Impressive that you own 4 HDMI 2.1 certified cables considering the first ones ever will be available later this month....

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#135 X_CAPCOM_X
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Another litmus thread like the Sony e3 one. Quality sorting of trash posters from everyone else.

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#136 Bluestars
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@NathanDrakeSwag:

its a launch exclusive son..

generations hah

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#137 Bluestars
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@tormentos:

ill await your ps5 version impressions of the game on launch day.....oh it wont have one....facts

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#138 firedrakes
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@briguyb13 said:

Weaker performance.

doesn't have the network infrastructure that Microsoft has, half-assed bc.

Yikes. I don't even know who this company is anymore. It's like they have all new management and ownership or something.

um.... Microsoft does sony psn now.... you do realize that. they statred tail end last year and have been slowly switching everything over to Microsoft

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#139 regnaston
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John Linneman just posted this so it turns out the the cable is capable of 4k120 .. Sony could have avoided this confusion by labeling the cable properly. But here I will admit I was wrong

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#140 Zero_epyon
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@regnaston said:

John Linneman just posted this so it turns out the the cable is capable of 4k120 .. Sony could have avoided this confusion by labeling the cable properly. But here I will admit I was wrong

We've been telling you for almost a week that it was a 2.1 cable from people who had the PS5 lol

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#141 MakotoNiijima
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4k 120 is fantasy land. Not even worth talking about.

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@makotoniijima said:

4k 120 is fantasy land. Not even worth talking about.

Welcome back Charizard1605, we've missed you buddy!

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#143 tormentos
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@briguyb13 said:
@makotoniijima said:

4k 120 is fantasy land. Not even worth talking about.

Welcome back Charizard1605, we've missed you buddy!

What thats charizard?

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#144 MakotoNiijima
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No game is doing 4k120 unless its some next gen 8bit Indie game.

Seriously. This talk of 4k120 is fantasy land. Let these consoles hit 4k 60 on a consistent basis then we can talk about 120FPS.

IF I recall how many games does PS5 support at 120FPS period?

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#145 appariti0n
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All this nonsense over whether or not the cable that ships with the console supports a mode that pretty much no games released for it will ever run at. LOL.

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#146 lamprey263
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Giving me flashbacks to the awful days when my $600 PS3 only had a composit cable packed it for the display output.

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#147 BlueEyedCasva
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Of course it couldn't lol