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#1 wzboson
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http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps2/killzone?q=killzone

I'm not sure if this has been posted

don't get excited yet.

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#2 urdead18
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I've played the game, I'm very excited.
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#3 ninjapirate2000
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Omg lol 9.5 is absurdly high for that game i would give killzone 1 an 8 at best.
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#4 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Yeah there credibility it totally out the window :lol:
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#5 wzboson
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I've played the game, I'm very excited.urdead18
good for you. I was excited after I played the banjo kazooie n&b demo, people make mistakes
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#6 dream431ca
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Yeah there credibility it totally out the window :lol:Gh0st_Of_0nyx

And why is that? Just because someone else likes the game you think they're wrong?

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#7 wzboson
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Omg lol 9.5 is absurdly high for that game i would give killzone 1 an 8 at best.ninjapirate2000
Yeah and I think it discredits the KZ2 10
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#8 SpinoRaptor24
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Playstation magazine :roll:
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Yeah there credibility it totally out the window :lol:dream431ca

And why is that? Just because someone else likes the game you think they're wrong?

its about as relevant as cows hating on OXM for giving 10 to Gears or 9.5 to Fable2.
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Yeah there credibility it totally out the window :lol:dream431ca

And why is that? Just because someone else likes the game you think they're wrong?

I think he is trying to say that since it's the consoles magazine, that it would obviously give an exclusive game a high score. But then again he could be trying to say something totally different.
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#11 urdead18
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[QUOTE="urdead18"]I've played the game, I'm very excited.wzboson
good for you. I was excited after I played the banjo kazooie n&b demo, people make mistakes

I played the beta for about 35 hours. I don't think I made a mistake.
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#12 SOedipus
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I would give that game a 7 at most.
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#13 wzboson
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Yeah there credibility it totally out the window :lol:dream431ca

And why is that? Just because someone else likes the game you think they're wrong?

If a reviewer writes something the consensus disagrees with shouldn't it discredit them? I understand everybody is entitled to their opinion, but sony fanboys aren't excited because PSM likes, it, but rather because it might be a sign of reviews to come.
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#14 Shafftehr
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It was the Halo killer, after all.
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#15 Dreams-Visions
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http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps2/killzone?q=killzone

I'm not sure if this has been posted

don't get excited yet.

wzboson
this was before the new editorial staff came into place. it's almost like talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers before LeBron or the Chicago Bulls without Jordan. It's irrelevant.
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#16 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Yeah there credibility it totally out the window :lol:dream431ca

And why is that? Just because someone else likes the game you think they're wrong?

No because killzone was garbage and in no way did it even deserve a AAA rating.
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#17 Gl0ry_L0rd
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Stop acting like a smart donkey. Playstation Magazine isn't biased. They gave Lair a 5/10, Playstation Official Magazine UK also gave Haze a 60.
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#18 jasonheyman
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LINKED

This is why I want to wait a bit to see how it goes although from what I've seen KZ2 looks better than the 1st..

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#19 wzboson
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[QUOTE="wzboson"]

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps2/killzone?q=killzone

I'm not sure if this has been posted

don't get excited yet.

Dreams-Visions
this was before the new editorial staff came into place. it's almost like talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers before LeBron or the Chicago Bulls without Jordan. It's irrelevant.

hmm, good point. I don't really follow them so thats interesting to know.
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#20 BioShockOwnz
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Yeah, KZ1 was a 7.0 max.
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#21 bleehum
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[QUOTE="wzboson"]

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps2/killzone?q=killzone

I'm not sure if this has been posted

don't get excited yet.

Dreams-Visions
this was before the new editorial staff came into place. it's almost like talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers before LeBron or the Chicago Bulls without Jordan. It's irrelevant.

Yep, don't see why people keep making threads about this.
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#22 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Yeah there credibility it totally out the window :lol:Gh0st_Of_0nyx

And why is that? Just because someone else likes the game you think they're wrong?

No because killzone was garbage and in no way did it even deserve a AAA rating.

Based on your opinion. I didn't like Killzone either, but I don't go around telling people they're wrong based on their opinions.

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#23 wzboson
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Before you guy's try and act like a smart donkey, Playstation Magazine isn't that biased. They gave Lair a 5/10, Playstation Official Magazine UK also gave Haze a 60. Gl0ry_L0rd
They might be unusually favorable of killzone as this review suggests.
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#24 SpruceCaboose
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Who cares? I will be judging KZ2 for myself here shortly.
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#25 wzboson
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

And why is that? Just because someone else likes the game you think they're wrong?

dream431ca

No because killzone was garbage and in no way did it even deserve a AAA rating.

Based on your opinion. I didn't like Killzone either, but I don't go around telling people they're wrong based on their opinions.

So is there such thing as a "bad" review?
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Yeah, you can't listen to those biased sources
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[QUOTE="ninjapirate2000"]Omg lol 9.5 is absurdly high for that game i would give killzone 1 an 8 at best.wzboson
Yeah and I think it discredits the KZ2 10

Why don't you play the game before you make assumptions on how it is. I played the multiplayer beta and I didn't play anything else the entire time i had it, even though I bought about 12 other games then, it was that good. Seriously you lems bash stuff that isn't even out yet. Don't bash a game that isn't out that you never played. And as far as the magazine, that magazine has a new editor-in-cheif that was once the official xbox magazine chief back during the xbox 1 days. He is not biased and it's not the same people who did the killzone 1 review, that was 5 years ago, and the whole magazine team has been replaced since then. This new editor and team isn't biased they gave HAze and LAir a 2.5 so your argument is moot. Now please lem play something first, before putting it down.

Why do you want it to fail? Is it because you don't own a ps3, or because you wish you did but it's too expensive for you so you have to bash the games on it before they even come out. I don't get you lems, every other post you lems bash on ps3 games, while most cows talk about how great ps3 games are, why not you lems talk about how great 360 games are instead of bashing the other console's games, or the system? It seems to me you don't have enough games to praise so all you lems bash the ps3 and it's games. Killzone 2 is great in multiplayer and from what I seen of the single player videos on IGN, they have snippet commentary videos on the first 3 levels, and it looks and plays phenomenal!

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It isn't the same magazine, the editors are other, just look their lasts reviews, they are pretty though! anyways I am waiting other reviews (IGN, GT, GS are the most relevant for me in that order)
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#29 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

And why is that? Just because someone else likes the game you think they're wrong?

dream431ca

No because killzone was garbage and in no way did it even deserve a AAA rating.

Based on your opinion. I didn't like Killzone either, but I don't go around telling people they're wrong based on their opinions.

Never said they were wrong I said they have 0 credibility because they gave a universally crappy game a 9.5 because they were blinded by their fanboyishness to sony.
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#30 rockguy92
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Who cares? I will be judging KZ2 for myself here shortly.SpruceCaboose
This. ^^^
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#31 world69star69
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]It isn't the same magazine, the editors are other, just look their lasts reviews, they are pretty though! anyways I am waiting other reviews (IGN, GT, GS are the most relevant for me in that order)

I would take GT out of that list they are sponsered by MS, watch the last bonus round, they are all xbox fanboys. They bash the ps3 and it's games left and right, their video prodcution crew is an open ps3 hater that switched the video feeds on xbox and ps3 for burnout, just to make ps3 look bad. They nit-picked on resistance 2 on every little thing while not even offering any critism on gears 2 , and they do this for most 360 games....they are the most known xbox fansites around...just like x-play.
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#32 wzboson
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[QUOTE="wzboson"][QUOTE="ninjapirate2000"]Omg lol 9.5 is absurdly high for that game i would give killzone 1 an 8 at best.world69star69

Yeah and I think it discredits the KZ2 10

Why don't you play the game before you make assumptions on how it is. I played the multiplayer beta and I didn't play anything else the entire time i had it, even though I bought about 12 other games then, it was that good. Seriously you lems bash stuff that isn't even out yet. Don't bash a game that isn't out that you never played. And as far as the magazine, that magazine has a new editor-in-cheif that was once the official xbox magazine chief back during the xbox 1 days. He is not biased and it's not the same people who did the killzone 1 review, that was 5 years ago, and the whole magazine team has been replaced since then. This new editor and team isn't biased they gave HAze and LAir a 2.5 so your argument is moot. Now please lem play something first, before putting it down.

Why do you want it to fail? Is it because you don't own a ps3, or because you wish you did but it's too expensive for you so you have to bash the games on it before they even come out. I don't get you lems, every other post you lems bash on ps3 games, while most cows talk about how great ps3 games are, why not you lems talk about how great 360 games are instead of bashing the other console's games, or the system? It seems to me you don't have enough games to praise so all you lems bash the ps3 and it's games. Killzone 2 is great in multiplayer and from what I seen of the single player videos on IGN, they have snippet commentary videos on the first 3 levels, and it looks and plays phenomenal!

geez no need to type an essay. I just don't want people to be putting this game in the category of MGS4 and LBP as they have already have because of one review, citing the evidence that this source has misjudged the quality of the KZ series previously. If you disagree, okay, but I think you should chill out, I don't think anything I posted was bias
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#33 Giancar
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[QUOTE="world69star69"][QUOTE="Giancar"]It isn't the same magazine, the editors are other, just look their lasts reviews, they are pretty though! anyways I am waiting other reviews (IGN, GT, GS are the most relevant for me in that order)

I would take GT out of that list they are sponsered by MS, watch the last bonus round, they are all xbox fanboys. They bash the ps3 and it's games left and right, their video prodcution crew is an open ps3 hater that switched the video feeds on xbox and ps3 for burnout, just to make ps3 look bad. They nit-picked on resistance 2 on every little thing while not even offering any critism on gears 2 , and they do this for most 360 games....they are the most known xbox fansites around...just like x-play.

I think the burnout thing was a mistake, horrible, but a mistake after all and they gave R2 AAA, and VC AAA I just agree with them more than GS...but in the end my most trusted site is IGN (it has it's faults too though)
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#34 world69star69
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I would give that game a 7 at most.SOedipus
Did you even play the game? You are a known lem, who probably doesn't have a ps3 so how can you give a game a score let alone a 7 before even playing it? You lems make no sense!!! How old are most of you? I am 30 been playing games since the atari 2600 and intellivision and let me tell you, I would never rate a game with out playing it no matter what console. I thought the genesis vs. snes war was bad, it's nowhere near the ignorance that happens in this console war where people rate games bad on the other system when they never even played it, and hell it's not even out yet!
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="wzboson"]

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps2/killzone?q=killzone

I'm not sure if this has been posted

don't get excited yet.

bleehum
this was before the new editorial staff came into place. it's almost like talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers before LeBron or the Chicago Bulls without Jordan. It's irrelevant.

Yep, don't see why people keep making threads about this.

people just don't know. I would have too, had I not remembered the big editorial staff change. they used to be called "lemmings", because it was an Xbox guy leading the reviews after the Heavenly Sword/Warhawk/Ratchet reviews came out.
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#36 jasonheyman
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Yeah, you can't listen to those biased sourcesToriko42

Yeah especially since after 08 awards! I don't know how many sites were called that after awards were given :roll: That word flys an awful lot around here doesn't it??!!

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#37 Janton3
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I thought OPM rates on a 5 scale with .5 increments?

edit:never mind that was the old one that no longer exists.

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#38 -Mad_Rhetoric-
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OMG a playstion mag gave the most hyped PS3 game a 9.5 OMG!!! *falls down and has a seizure*
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#39 Giancar
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[QUOTE="SOedipus"]I would give that game a 7 at most.world69star69
Did you even play the game? You are a known lem, who probably doesn't have a ps3 so how can you give a game a score let alone a 7 before even playing it? You lems make no sense!!! How old are most of you? I am 30 been playing games since the atari 2600 and intellivision and let me tell you, I would never rate a game with out playing it no matter what console. I thought the genesis vs. snes war was bad, it's nowhere near the ignorance that happens in this console war where people rate games bad on the other system when they never even played it, and hell it's not even out yet!

huh? he is most a PS fan dude (I think) just chill out, KZ2 will be great
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#40 TheOrigin
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[QUOTE="bleehum"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] this was before the new editorial staff came into place. it's almost like talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers before LeBron or the Chicago Bulls without Jordan. It's irrelevant.Dreams-Visions
Yep, don't see why people keep making threads about this.

people just don't know. I would have too, had I not remembered the big editorial staff change. they used to be called "lemmings", because it was an Xbox guy leading the reviews after the Heavenly Sword/Warhawk/Ratchet reviews came out.

Yeah, but it seems that everyone will overlook this seeing as how they believe the killzone 1 review automatically "discredits" them. .
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#41 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="bleehum"] Yep, don't see why people keep making threads about this. TheOrigin
people just don't know. I would have too, had I not remembered the big editorial staff change. they used to be called "lemmings", because it was an Xbox guy leading the reviews after the Heavenly Sword/Warhawk/Ratchet reviews came out.

Yeah, but it seems that everyone will overlook this seeing as how they believe the killzone 1 review automatically "discredits" them. .

they're still a PlayStation exclusive publication. as such, their reviews SHOULD be taken with a grain of salt. Cows need to sit back and wait for more universally-accepted reviews to come out before forming a real opinion. Patience.
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#42 world69star69
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[QUOTE="world69star69"][QUOTE="SOedipus"]I would give that game a 7 at most.Giancar
Did you even play the game? You are a known lem, who probably doesn't have a ps3 so how can you give a game a score let alone a 7 before even playing it? You lems make no sense!!! How old are most of you? I am 30 been playing games since the atari 2600 and intellivision and let me tell you, I would never rate a game with out playing it no matter what console. I thought the genesis vs. snes war was bad, it's nowhere near the ignorance that happens in this console war where people rate games bad on the other system when they never even played it, and hell it's not even out yet!

huh? he is most a PS fan dude (I think) just chill out, KZ2 will be great

I am chilled out, I just get sick of people bashing games before there even out, and most of them will not even play the game as they don't own the system. If he isn't a lem, my apologies, And my apologies to wzboson if I sounded overly harsh. It's just something that has gotten to me over the last few months on system wars, seeing the same people bash games just because they are on another system they don't own, or haven't even played. I don't see as many "cows" or "hermits" bashing games, most praise the games that are on the system instead of bashing a game from the other system. It seems to me that a few lems in particular are really notorious for this, I won't name names as I am sure anyone on here knows who they are... Seriously though...If the game sucks once it's out and you played it and don't like it I will respect that, but not before the game is out. And not before you actually played the game yourself. Killzone 2 really impressed me so I am more passionate then usual about it....and that;s unusual for me as I am mostly an rpg guy!
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#43 munu9
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What does that prove. Unless you're implying the OPM is guaranteed to have an equally overlandish review to the sequel of a the game as the prequel. (regardless of who actually reviews the game in the mag) The guy that reviewed K2 is probably a different one from the guy that reviewed K1. This has no effect on the credibility. Show me consistently outlandish reviews for sony games from year to year, then you can start making claims.
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#44 munu9
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] they're still a PlayStation exclusive publication. as such, their reviews SHOULD be taken with a grain of salt. Cows need to sit back and wait for more universally-accepted reviews to come out before forming a real opinion. Patience.

What you said at the end was true but their exclusive publications status doesn't prove anything. They were able to give a game like warhawk a 6 or something. And gave lair a lower review than most.
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#45 warmaster670
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apparently the TC cant read, PSM =/= OPM.

OPM is a good magazxine, PSM sucks.

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#47 TREAL_Since
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Yeah, that review is waay off lol. But that doesn't solely determine their KZ2 review to be invalid or non-credible. This gen they have been pretty much spot on with a majority of their reviews (Haze & Lair got a 2.5). It could have been a different reviewer as well. We'll see...
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#48 Ninten007
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But when OXM gave Gears a high deserving score, the lemmings did not seem to say that source was biased because it was a 360 exclusive? So does that make OXM credible or not?

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#49 wzboson
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[QUOTE="world69star69"][QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="world69star69"] Did you even play the game? You are a known lem, who probably doesn't have a ps3 so how can you give a game a score let alone a 7 before even playing it? You lems make no sense!!! How old are most of you? I am 30 been playing games since the atari 2600 and intellivision and let me tell you, I would never rate a game with out playing it no matter what console. I thought the genesis vs. snes war was bad, it's nowhere near the ignorance that happens in this console war where people rate games bad on the other system when they never even played it, and hell it's not even out yet!

huh? he is most a PS fan dude (I think) just chill out, KZ2 will be great

I am chilled out, I just get sick of people bashing games before there even out, and most of them will not even play the game as they don't own the system. If he isn't a lem, my apologies, And my apologies to wzboson if I sounded overly harsh. It's just something that has gotten to me over the last few months on system wars, seeing the same people bash games just because they are on another system they don't own, or haven't even played. I don't see as many "cows" or "hermits" bashing games, most praise the games that are on the system instead of bashing a game from the other system. It seems to me that a few lems in particular are really notorious for this, I won't name names as I am sure anyone on here knows who they are... Seriously though...If the game sucks once it's out and you played it and don't like it I will respect that, but not before the game is out. And not before you actually played the game yourself. Killzone 2 really impressed me so I am more passionate then usual about it....and that;s unusual for me as I am mostly an rpg guy!

geez man you have typed at least an essay and a half in this topic.
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#50 wzboson
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But when OXM gave Gears a high deserving score, the lemmings did not seem to say that source was biased because it was a 360 exclusive? So does that make OXM credible or not?

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When did anyone use OXM's review to prove gears is an awesome game? I'm going to go with never, because we never needed to.