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#51 MrSelf-Destruct
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@KC_Hokie

Looks like someone's finally catching on to the real culprit. I read this in the comments to the second link:

"I am pretty sure it is Mircrosoft This is happening just a few days before they launch XBOX NATION Something similar to PSN. Seriously.. this is to deep of an attack.."

Uh - oh! Watch out, MS, them cows are about to stampede! :lol: seriously, though... what a dummy. lol

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About time they shed some light on this. I wanted to get on mgo today, but alas.

Off topic: Had a massive overload over good, mostly new mass effect 3 info loaded into my brain. Officially, my most anticipated title of the year. Talked about who else is confirmed, the revamped combat and sound, locations..just...wow. Anyone that sees this, check on the me3 360 board. Dont feel like making a topic about it.

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[QUOTE="Tetrarch9"] It was out for 12 days a few years back.,soulitane
I think that was caused by an overload of new members not hackers.

Servers RRoD'd??? lol :P

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#54 gamer-adam1
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[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

Anon did that and they don't want to take credit for it, even though they are looking worse now because everyone believes its them, but they wont admit it

MrSelf-Destruct

I think at least someone involved with them had a hand in this, but they aren't admitting it in fear of the community backlash they experienced last time. They probably don't want to look like hypocrites.

IDK we are talking about a group of people who brag about making a kid cry, how does someone do all of this and not brag about it.

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#55 MrSelf-Destruct
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

Anon did that and they don't want to take credit for it, even though they are looking worse now because everyone believes its them, but they wont admit it

gamer-adam1

I think at least someone involved with them had a hand in this, but they aren't admitting it in fear of the community backlash they experienced last time. They probably don't want to look like hypocrites.

IDK we are talking about a group of people who brag about making a kid cry, how does someone do all of this and not brag about it.

Lol. Well, that's the stupid thing about calling yourself Anonymous. Anybody can be in your group... Even the dummies. Maybe Anon is behind it while one little band of white knights had no clue about it and are trying to save "face" by denying it. Eh. There really just is nooo telling.
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#56 N3xus9
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[QUOTE="VensInferno"]

[QUOTE="max-Emadness"]

another reason y xbox live is better

James161324

XBL can be hacked to... just saying.


Yes it can but then your messing with one of the oldest technology companies in the world. So have fun with that. Plus its a service thats grosses billions

MS have probably been in the top 5 most hack targetted entities in the world for the last 20 years and have a network that dwarfes Sony's by magnitudes. I dare say that MS's experience in defending against the smartest blackhats out there (that while they are probably not "hackproof") MS would be infinitely harder to breach in a substantial way than Sony.

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#57 finalfantasy94
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another reason y xbox live is better

max-Emadness

Wasin there a time when live was down for a week.

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#58 bigboss5ak
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Everyday i look smarter for selling my ps3 i mean seriously if i had it and was using psn to play a game i liked id really be pissed sony really messed up on this one.
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#59 finalfantasy94
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Everyday i look smarter for selling my ps3 i mean seriously if i had it and was using psn to play a game i liked id really be pissed sony really messed up on this one.bigboss5ak

Yes your smarter cause the psn is down at the moment :roll:

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#60 soulitane
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Everyday i look smarter for selling my ps3 i mean seriously if i had it and was using psn to play a game i liked id really be pissed sony really messed up on this one.bigboss5ak
I don't think it's smart for anyone to sell a console.
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#61 Karnage108
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="Tetrarch9"] It was out for 12 days a few years back.,

I think that was caused by an overload of new members not hackers.

It didn't affect everyone for that long either. I think people are just starting to throw in a random number.
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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Everyday i look smarter for selling my ps3 i mean seriously if i had it and was using psn to play a game i liked id really be pissed sony really messed up on this one.finalfantasy94

Yes your smarter cause the psn is down at the moment :roll:

When i hear "at the moment" id think just a few hours but its been days and will be for the forseeable future. Those psn plus memebers deserve better I dont see how anyone can defend sony at a time like this i feel its all on them.
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#63 finalfantasy94
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I might as well finish the challenge tower.mrmusicman247

Yea I wanna sink my teeth into online MK too,but might as well clean up tower and still beat arcade a few more times.

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#64 soulitane
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="Tetrarch9"] It was out for 12 days a few years back.,

I think that was caused by an overload of new members not hackers.

It didn't affect everyone for that long either. I think people are just starting to throw in a random number.

I remember it quite clearly since it was when I first got xbox live and I wasn't able to log on properly for at least a few days, probably longer.
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#65 gamer-adam1
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[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] I think at least someone involved with them had a hand in this, but they aren't admitting it in fear of the community backlash they experienced last time. They probably don't want to look like hypocrites. MrSelf-Destruct

IDK we are talking about a group of people who brag about making a kid cry, how does someone do all of this and not brag about it.

Lol. Well, that's the stupid thing about calling yourself Anonymous. Anybody can be in your group... Even the dummies. Maybe Anon is behind it while one little band of white knights had no clue about it and are trying to save "face" by denying it. Eh. There really just is nooo telling.

ya, I agree, they pretty much shot themselves in the foot, If they really wanted to fight, they would be profession about it, and probably less people would hate them

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#66 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Everyday i look smarter for selling my ps3 i mean seriously if i had it and was using psn to play a game i liked id really be pissed sony really messed up on this one.bigboss5ak

Yes your smarter cause the psn is down at the moment :roll:

When i hear "at the moment" id think just a few hours but its been days and will be for the forseeable future. Those psn plus memebers deserve better I dont see how anyone can defend sony at a time like this i feel its all on them.

But you act like live has never ever been down before for more then a day. Again it doesint make you look any smarter. The same would go if the shoe was on the other foot at the moment.

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#67 GreenGoblin2099
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Everyday i look smarter for selling my ps3 i mean seriously if i had it and was using psn to play a game i liked id really be pissed sony really messed up on this one.bigboss5ak

So this meansonce PSN is restored, you'll look dumber??

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#68 CajunShooter
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I dont see how anyone can defend sony at a time like thisbigboss5ak
How about it isn't their fault the servers went down. They were attacked. It like blaming a store for closing a building because someone started a fire.

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#69 WilliamRLBaker
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I'm not even going to get into the whole who was hacked longer, xbox live was hacked debate *shakes head with all the disinformation being thrown around*

Its good that sony is rebuilding psn...but I doubt they are actually doing just that...Cause really that would take far longer then a few days.

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#70 drakekratos
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it works fine for me. just played some MK9
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IF any sort of external attacks was involved, then yes it's Anon. The group has no infrastructure and does'nt know it's own members, as such they're directly responsible. For every idealist there will be 10 trolls.

IF you for some reason think Sony is to blame for this you need to think harder. They're working hard to retain customer services and you should really be "thanking" the anonymous "freedom fighters" who are busy messing with consumers for the sake of the very same consumers' "rights".

Regardless, every single member and supporter of Anon is a terrible asshat.

an you really condone terrorist methods along with no self moderation for the sake a (dodgy) "moral" standpoint in regards to entertainment? So what are Anon doing when they're not messing with the likes of Sony? Trying to mass induce seizures on epileptics? Have they ever done anything good at all? Has there any been a noble intention behind any of their actions?

Of course not, then they'd have to collectively DDOS themselves to hell as well. They're very much like the anthropomorphic idea of cooperate evil they claim to be fighting, except they intend to remain faceless due to their dubious methods and the fact that bravery, while normally a positive attribute, is very hard to maintain when not assured 100% safety.

Why don't you DDOS all of China till they release Ai Weiwei? If he's still alive that is.....

Why don't you DDOS MS till they drop the XBL fee? One would think it'd be massive insult that they convinced the average consumer that it's actually justified.

Anon: Being asshats and picking small fights while hurting all the wrong people.

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[QUOTE="drakekratos"]it works fine for me. just played some MK9

You are very lucky.
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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Everyday i look smarter for selling my ps3 i mean seriously if i had it and was using psn to play a game i liked id really be pissed sony really messed up on this one.finalfantasy94

Yes your smarter cause the psn is down at the moment :roll:

with each day that passes, his intelligence rises over 9000!!!!

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#74 TREAL_Since
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Well this sucks. :(

timmy00

Sucks you just got your PS3 too.

I've been wanting to buy Xenogears all week!

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#75 Filthybastrd
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[QUOTE="timmy00"]

Well this sucks. :(

TREAL_Since

Sucks you just got your PS3 too.

I've been wanting to buy Xenogears all week!

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Aww, I pity you foo'

Lucky for me, I own an ancient hardcopy. Now that game was pure controversy back in the day.

Even better for me, being a legal owner of both an original psx and a hardcopy I can legally*censored* which is one of the reasons I love my Optimus 2X.

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IF any sort of external attacks was involved, then yes it's Anon. The group has no infrastructure and does'nt know it's own members, as such they're directly responsible. For every idealist there will be 10 trolls.

IF you for some reason think Sony is to blame for this you need to think harder. They're working hard to retain customer services and you should really be "thanking" the anonymous "freedom fighters" who are busy messing with consumers for the sake of the very same consumers' "rights".

Regardless, every single member and supporter of Anon is a terrible asshat.

an you really condone terrorist methods along with no self moderation for the sake a (dodgy) "moral" standpoint in regards to entertainment? So what are Anon doing when they're not messing with the likes of Sony? Trying to mass induce seizures on epileptics? Have they ever done anything good at all? Has there any been a noble intention behind any of their actions?

Of course not, then they'd have to collectively DDOS themselves to hell as well. They're very much like the anthropomorphic idea of cooperate evil they claim to be fighting, except they intend to remain faceless due to their dubious methods and the fact that bravery, while normally a positive attribute, is very hard to maintain when not assured 100% safety.

Why don't you DDOS all of China till they release Ai Weiwei? If he's still alive that is.....

Why don't you DDOS MS till they drop the XBL fee? One would think it'd be massive insult that they convinced the average consumer that it's actually justified.

Anon: Being asshats and picking small fights while hurting all the wrong people.

Filthybastrd

I've read that before, is it true? I just can't believe that :?.

Overall, great post! I was thinking of the same thing as your XBL Gold comparison yesterday lol.

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Looks like that external attack really did some havoc with their systems.
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

IF any sort of external attacks was involved, then yes it's Anon. The group has no infrastructure and does'nt know it's own members, as such they're directly responsible. For every idealist there will be 10 trolls.

IF you for some reason think Sony is to blame for this you need to think harder. They're working hard to retain customer services and you should really be "thanking" the anonymous "freedom fighters" who are busy messing with consumers for the sake of the very same consumers' "rights".

Regardless, every single member and supporter of Anon is a terrible asshat.

an you really condone terrorist methods along with no self moderation for the sake a (dodgy) "moral" standpoint in regards to entertainment? So what are Anon doing when they're not messing with the likes of Sony? Trying to mass induce seizures on epileptics? Have they ever done anything good at all? Has there any been a noble intention behind any of their actions?

Of course not, then they'd have to collectively DDOS themselves to hell as well. They're very much like the anthropomorphic idea of cooperate evil they claim to be fighting, except they intend to remain faceless due to their dubious methods and the fact that bravery, while normally a positive attribute, is very hard to maintain when not assured 100% safety.

Why don't you DDOS all of China till they release Ai Weiwei? If he's still alive that is.....

Why don't you DDOS MS till they drop the XBL fee? One would think it'd be massive insult that they convinced the average consumer that it's actually justified.

Anon: Being asshats and picking small fights while hurting all the wrong people.

TREAL_Since

I've read that before, is it true? I just can't believe that :?.

Overall, great post! I was thinking of the same thing as your XBL Gold comparison yesterday lol.

Why thank you! Ioften fear for my GS future when writing these things, my level certainly jumps back quite a bit ;)

I should note that for the most part I take a rather casual PoV to coorperate methods since I'm free to not buy their products if I don't like how they smell.

Oh, and do look foreward to Xenogears. It's pretty damn sweet once you get past the hideous graphics and clunky controls :)

Edit: And yes, it's true. Anon takes action in a variety of ways ranging from imposing the "V for Vendetta" mentality on themselves to trolling to vigilantism to downright cruelty.

That's what you get when your organization has no infrastructure, your ideals end up meaning nothing.

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Why thank you! Ioften fear for my GS future when writing these things, my level certainly jumps back quite a bit ;)

I should note that for the most part I take a rather casual PoV to coorperate methods since I'm free to not buy their products if I don't like how they smell.

Oh, and do look foreward to Xenogears. It's pretty damn sweet once you get past the hideous graphics and clunky controls :)

Edit: And yes, it's true. Anon takes action in a variety of ways ranging from imposing the "V for Vendetta" mentality on themselves to trolling to vigilantism to downright cruelty.

That's what you get when your organization has no infrastructure, your ideals end up meaning nothing.

Filthybastrd

Yeah, you pretty much said everything there is to say about Anon from my view. And I'll never be able to watch V for Vendetta again without laughing my ass off :lol:. They ruined such a great thing.

I'll be sure to enjoy Xenogears. I've been passed the graphics for years.

Edit: They also ruined Mass 1 with their "we are legion" quote. I'll be thinking of Anon when I'm killing Reapers in Mass 3, lol.

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good as long as it gets better later on
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#81 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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hmmm... were hackers really the cause of this?

theuncharted34
Why would you think otherwise? PSN has been running fine the majority of the time.
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Everyday i look smarter for selling my ps3 i mean seriously if i had it and was using psn to play a game i liked id really be pissed sony really messed up on this one.bigboss5ak

Yes your smarter cause the psn is down at the moment :roll:

When i hear "at the moment" id think just a few hours but its been days and will be for the forseeable future. Those psn plus memebers deserve better I dont see how anyone can defend sony at a time like this i feel its all on them.

All on them? Why? The same could of easily happened to XBOX Live or even Steam. It's not Sony's fault at all, sony have legal rights to protect their product. This is 100% a hackers doing.
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#83 Ratchet_Fan8
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Meh its ok, dont want to play my PS3 at all this spring break/easter.Just watching TV is fine
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Why thank you! Ioften fear for my GS future when writing these things, my level certainly jumps back quite a bit ;)

I should note that for the most part I take a rather casual PoV to coorperate methods since I'm free to not buy their products if I don't like how they smell.

Oh, and do look foreward to Xenogears. It's pretty damn sweet once you get past the hideous graphics and clunky controls :)

Edit: And yes, it's true. Anon takes action in a variety of ways ranging from imposing the "V for Vendetta" mentality on themselves to trolling to vigilantism to downright cruelty.

That's what you get when your organization has no infrastructure, your ideals end up meaning nothing.

TREAL_Since

Yeah, you pretty much said everything there is to say about Anon from my view. And I'll never be able to watch V for Vendetta again without laughing my ass off :lol:. They ruined such a great thing.

I'll be sure to enjoy Xenogears. I've been passed the graphics for years.

Edit: They also ruined Mass 1 with their "we are legion" quote. I'll be thinking of Anon when I'm killing Reapers in Mass 3, lol.

Actually, they ruined a verse from the Christian bible that just also happened to be a really cool scene from Mass Effect 2. But yeah, Filthy, I think you hit the nail on the head.
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="Tetrarch9"] It was out for 12 days a few years back.,Karnage108
I think that was caused by an overload of new members not hackers.

It didn't affect everyone for that long either. I think people are just starting to throw in a random number.

At the time of engadget writing this article Xbox Live had been down for 10 days


http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/31/xbox-live-still-up-and-down-ten-days-later/

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[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="soulitane"] I think that was caused by an overload of new members not hackers.CajunShooter

It didn't affect everyone for that long either. I think people are just starting to throw in a random number.

At the time of engadget writing this article Xbox Live had been down for 10 days


http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/31/xbox-live-still-up-and-down-ten-days-later/

But as the very URL you're linking to states, the service wasn't completely down for the entire period. As I remember it, it was a stability issue that affected a lot of users who had trouble logging in or creating accounts. It wasn't a global in the sense it was down uniformally for everyone for such an extended period of time. So while it was still a problem, it wasn't a problem to this degree.

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#87 Mafty
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just because psn is down doesnt mean you cant play the ps3 anymore....play sp folks
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#88 _SWAG_
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not sure whats all the fuss about all week. ive been playing online on the psn with no problems. its just being exaggerated too much by the other side, in my eyes

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another reason y xbox live is better

max-Emadness
until it gets attacked with a denial of service attack and it would be down for days.
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not sure whats all the fuss about all week. ive been playing online on the psn with no problems. its just being exaggerated too much by the other side, in my eyes

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Lol What!

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#91 TheKing012
Member since 2011 • 1191 Posts

PC FTW...

for now. :P

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#92 SiKh22
Member since 2006 • 4661 Posts
basically to me it seems from Sony's view, hey we got hacked again, let's try to the service better then before with more security. all the best to them!
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#93 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="VensInferno"]

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] Anonymous doesn't want to mess up the service they paid for. Besides, they can play their pirated games online already. They're cool with MS. :PMrSelf-Destruct

Off-Topic: I just Clicked your Sig by mistake and my whole house Nyan Nyan. :P

Good. Now your house is filled with the sound of awesome. ;)

Lol that's pretty funny. I just clicked as well to see. [spoiler] Funniest part is clicking on the "lower volume" just to have it get louder. [/spoiler]