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#1 iLikeTheWoods
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I know it isn't confirmed if it's even gonna be announced but most news outlets seem certain it is. I just can't understand how they can fail to put dual analogue sticks on it. This has been the most important piece of criticism about it since launch and they don't do anything about it. Just like the ps3 they think they know what's best for us, what we'll enjoy most and once again there wrong for the most part. It's sad a company can fail to hear out it's loyal fanbase.
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Why does a handheld need dual analogue sticks? Heck, why does a handheld need an analogue stick in the first place?

If analogue sticks are so important, buy a gaming console. Handhelds should be for playing games that don't require complex control schemes. Like DJ MAX or Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles.

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UMD joins the ranks of Betamax and Minidisc : (

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Most of PSP best games don't need a single stick, so I don't see why it would need two. 2D handhelds 4 EVA.
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I know it isn't confirmed if it's even gonna be announced but most news outlets seem certain it is. I just can't understand how they can fail to put dual analogue sticks on it. This has been the most important piece of criticism about it since launch and they don't do anything about it. Just like the ps3 they think they know what's best for us, what we'll enjoy most and once again there wrong for the most part. It's sad a company can fail to hear out it's loyal fanbase. iLikeTheWoods

I guess they dont listen, since the last time people requested for duelshock 3 they actually made 1.. We havent seen a confirmed pic of it yet, so might aswell wait, and then judge sony... Because you never know you might be wrong.. ;)

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Why does a handheld need dual analogue sticks? Heck, why does a handheld need an analogue stick in the first place?

If analogue sticks are so important, buy a gaming console. Handhelds should be for playing games that don't require complex control schemes. Like DJ MAX or Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles.

foxhound_fox

Agreed. I think the single analog stick works fine for some games, but I still prefer the D-PAD. I don't think any handheld should be a mini-console.

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I know it isn't confirmed if it's even gonna be announced but most news outlets seem certain it is. I just can't understand how they can fail to put dual analogue sticks on it. This has been the most important piece of criticism about it since launch and they don't do anything about it. Just like the ps3 they think they know what's best for us, what we'll enjoy most and once again there wrong for the most part. It's sad a company can fail to hear out it's loyal fanbase. iLikeTheWoods
I dunno if a second stick is vital when I look at the success of the DS. I think what's more important is having an analog stick that actually feels good and works. I mean the one that is on my original PSP is absolute junk. It's next to impossible to play a racing game on the PSP and have fun (I'm talking about a serious racer....why is why I'm not surprised Gran Turismo never came out on the PSP). Would I like to see a second stick? Yeah....but they need to get 1 right first.
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The PSP Go!/4000 is *not* the PSP 2. That is why it a) has the exact same button configuration as the PSP and b) will only play PSP games.

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#9 iLikeTheWoods
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Why does a handheld need dual analogue sticks? Heck, why does a handheld need an analogue stick in the first place?

If analogue sticks are so important, buy a gaming console. Handhelds should be for playing games that don't require complex control schemes. Like DJ MAX or Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles.

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this is more of a taste issue. if you want simple hand-held gaming buy a DS, If you want true 3d gaming on the go (like me) buy a psp. The thing is it would be considerably better if they could could just stick another analogue on the thing.
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this is more of a taste issue. if you want simple hand-held gaming buy a DS, If you want true 3d gaming on the go (like me) buy a psp. The thing is it would be considerably better if they could could just stick another analogue on the thing. iLikeTheWoods

No, it isn't a taste issue, its a hardware issue. It is nearly impossible to get a "proper" analogue stick to work on a handheld... since it has to be portable as well. If you want console games, get a gaming console. I bought my PSP for games that can be played on the go without much time investment and can be paused at any time with no stoppage in the flow. As well as its ability to play music.

I don't want a simple handheld, I want one that plays good games like Symphony of the Night and DJ MAX that are compatible with the "handheld" environment. If I want to play a JRPG or Syphon Filter, I'll use my PS2. A platform designed for those kinds of games.

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The PSP Go!/4000 is *not* the PSP 2. That is why it a) has the exact same button configuration as the PSP and b) will only play PSP games.

PBSnipes
even i know this. putting another stick on it doesn't mean redesigning the whole machine. but we've seen the mod videos on the web. why can't sony just add this one crucial feature.
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[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"] even i know this. putting another stick on it doesn't mean redesigning the whole machine. but we've seen the mod videos on the web. why can't sony just add this one crucial feature.

Because all it would do is segment the userbase. The PSP has enough problems with developers trying to shoe-horn PS2/console-centric games onto the platform, the last thing it needs is games (specifically, shooters) that only work properly on one SKU.
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[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"] this is more of a taste issue. if you want simple hand-held gaming buy a DS, If you want true 3d gaming on the go (like me) buy a psp. The thing is it would be considerably better if they could could just stick another analogue on the thing. foxhound_fox


No, it isn't a taste issue, its a hardware issue. It is nearly impossible to get a "proper" analogue stick to work on a handheld... since it has to be portable as well. If you want console games, get a gaming console. I bought my PSP for games that can be played on the go without much time investment and can be paused at any time with no stoppage in the flow. As well as its ability to play music.

I don't want a simple handheld, I want one that plays good games like Symphony of the Night and DJ MAX that are compatible with the "handheld" environment. If I want to play a JRPG or Syphon Filter, I'll use my PS2. A platform designed for those kinds of games.

i never said anything about a 'proper analogue stick', i just want another thumb-slider thing and them in a better position. consider the possibilities. FPS would be much better to play, third person games would be a helluva a lot better know i can control the camera simply rather then that infuriating shoulder button system, better inventory control etc.... All this could be possible on a portable system with that extra analogue stick. Just because a game is complex doesn't mean it can only be played on consoles.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Most of PSP best games don't need a single stick, so I don't see why it would need two. 2D handhelds 4 EVA.

seriously it would make FPS on PSP feel a whole lot better.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Most of PSP best games don't need a single stick, so I don't see why it would need two. 2D handhelds 4 EVA.mglbpkillz
seriously it would make FPS on PSP feel a whole lot better.

FPS? If I wanted FPS I would play them on home consoles, systems designed for them.
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"] even i know this. putting another stick on it doesn't mean redesigning the whole machine. but we've seen the mod videos on the web. why can't sony just add this one crucial feature.

Because all it would do is segment the userbase. The PSP has enough problems with developers trying to shoe-horn PS2/console-centric games onto the platform, the last thing it needs is games (specifically, shooters) that only work properly on one SKU.

ooh, well said. agree with u 100%
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"] even i know this. putting another stick on it doesn't mean redesigning the whole machine. but we've seen the mod videos on the web. why can't sony just add this one crucial feature.

Because all it would do is segment the userbase. The PSP has enough problems with developers trying to shoe-horn PS2/console-centric games onto the platform, the last thing it needs is games (specifically, shooters) that only work properly on one SKU.

what would be so hard about adding configuration options? Take vice city stories. You can play it on the current PSP but i would enjoy it a lot better if i could have a dual analogue.
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i never said anything about a 'proper analogue stick', i just want another thumb-slider thing and them in a better position. consider the possibilities. FPS would be much better to play, third person games would be a helluva a lot better know i can control the camera simply rather then that infuriating shoulder button system, better inventory control etc.... All this could be possible on a portable system with that extra analogue stick. Just because a game is complex doesn't mean it can only be played on consoles. iLikeTheWoods

That's the point... the PSP shouldn't be about playing shooters... those are console games. Handhelds have always been about simple games that don't require complex control schemes. Like side-scrollers, puzzle games or music games. Like Loco Roco, Crush, DJ MAX, Patapon and Symphony of the Night.

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I hardly use the analog stick to begin with. Why would I need two?
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Why would a handheld need two analog sticks?

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[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"] i never said anything about a 'proper analogue stick', i just want another thumb-slider thing and them in a better position. consider the possibilities. FPS would be much better to play, third person games would be a helluva a lot better know i can control the camera simply rather then that infuriating shoulder button system, better inventory control etc.... All this could be possible on a portable system with that extra analogue stick. Just because a game is complex doesn't mean it can only be played on consoles. foxhound_fox


That's the point... the PSP shouldn't be about playing shooters... those are console games. Handhelds have always been about simple games that don't require complex control schemes. Like side-scrollers, puzzle games or music games. Like Loco Roco, Crush, DJ MAX, Patapon and Symphony of the Night.

and this is what i was saying about it being a taste issue. you want play loco roco on the go, I want to play shooters on the go. You cant force someone to like certain genres. The DS is perfectly adapted for the kind of gaming you enjoy while the psp is well adapted for the gaming i enjoy.
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what would be so hard about adding configuration options? Take vice city stories. You can play it on the current PSP but i would enjoy it a lot better if i could have a dual analogue.iLikeTheWoods

The problem isn't adding configuration options, it's the fact that a game designed around a dual-analog PSP will inherently be better on said dual-analog PSP, resulting in 40-50 odd million pissed off users. People tolerate games like Syphon Filter, MGS: PO, SOCOM:FTB and Resistance: Retribution because they know there isn't an alternative to the ****ty controls. If there suddenly is an alternative, one that means a) I'll have to shell out $50-100 on trading in my PSP and b) my UMD games are now expensive paperweights, I (and no doubt thousands, if not millions of others) am going to trade in my PSP and games... for a brand new DS.

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and this is what i was saying about it being a taste issue. you want play loco roco on the go, I want to play shooters on the go. You cant force someone to like certain genres. The DS is perfectly adapted for the kind of gaming you enjoy while the psp is well adapted for the gaming i enjoy. iLikeTheWoods

Actually, the DS is not well adapted to the gaming I enjoy, which is why it sits on my shelf collecting dust. If the PSP is adapted for the gaming you enjoy, then why do you need another analogue stick?

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[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"] and this is what i was saying about it being a taste issue. you want play loco roco on the go, I want to play shooters on the go. You cant force someone to like certain genres. The DS is perfectly adapted for the kind of gaming you enjoy while the psp is well adapted for the gaming i enjoy. foxhound_fox


Actually, the DS is not well adapted to the gaming I enjoy, which is why it sits on my shelf collecting dust. If the PSP is adapted for the gaming you enjoy, then why do you need another analogue stick?

I don't enjoy games that actively use the touch screen either, like for MPH or the StartFox game.

DS's best games also don't use the touch screen too much.

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I don't enjoy games that actively use the touch screen either, like for MPH or the StartFox game.

DS's best games also don't use the touch screen too much.

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I'd agree. Which is probably why I've enjoyed playing Metroid: Fusion and Zero Mission more on my DS than any DS game.

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[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"]
what would be so hard about adding configuration options? Take vice city stories. You can play it on the current PSP but i would enjoy it a lot better if i could have a dual analogue.PBSnipes

The problem isn't adding configuration options, it's the fact that a game designed around a dual-analog PSP will inherently be better on said dual-analog PSP, resulting in 40-50 odd million pissed off users. People tolerate games like Syphon Filter, MGS: PO, SOCOM:FTB and Resistance: Retribution because they know there isn't an alternative to the ****ty controls. If there suddenly is an alternative, one that means a) I'll have to shell out $50-100 on trading in my PSP and b) my UMD games are now expensive paperweights, I (and no doubt thousands, if not millions of others) am going to trade in my PSP and games... for a brand new DS.

developers could build up a psp game without giving a crap about dual sticks but in the end it would still feel much more enjoyable on the dual stick system with just an extra configuration. Think of every shooter and sports game that is out on the psp now and ask yourself whether you wouldn't love that extra analogue.
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So let me get this straight, you're making a thread complaining about how Sony doesn't listen to their customers, based off a rumor that hasn't even been confirmed?

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[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"] and this is what i was saying about it being a taste issue. you want play loco roco on the go, I want to play shooters on the go. You cant force someone to like certain genres. The DS is perfectly adapted for the kind of gaming you enjoy while the psp is well adapted for the gaming i enjoy. foxhound_fox


Actually, the DS is not well adapted to the gaming I enjoy, which is why it sits on my shelf collecting dust. If the PSP is adapted for the gaming you enjoy, then why do you need another analogue stick?

really? because last time i checked the best DS games were "side-scrollers, puzzle games or music games", which is what you said you enjoy.
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So let me get this straight, you're making a thread complaining about how Sony doesn't listen to their customers, based off a rumor that hasn't even been confirmed?

:|

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did you read the first post?
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[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"] developers could build up a psp game without giving a crap about dual sticks but in the end it would still feel much more enjoyable on the dual stick system with just an extra configuration. Think of every shooter and sports game that is out on the psp now and ask yourself whether you wouldn't love that extra analogue.

I would. The problem is I'm not going to spend $50+ for that extra analog stick, and I'm not going to pay $30-40 for a game that is inherently better on another platform. All Sony does by adding an extra analog stick is alienate the majority of their current consumer base, which is decidedly not a good thing when a) your system is generally considered to be lacking in quality titles, b) the competition is cheaper and more popular, c) you have a major piracy problem and d) you are counting on that consumer base when you release the PSP 2.
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really? because last time i checked the best DS games were "side-scrollers, puzzle games or music games", which is what you said you enjoy.iLikeTheWoods
By GR, the best DS games are an Action/Adventure (GTA:CW), a Trun-Based Strategy game (Advnce Wars DS), a Racer (Mario Kart DS) and only one side scroller (Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow).
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Why does a handheld need dual analogue sticks? Heck, why does a handheld need an analogue stick in the first place?

If analogue sticks are so important, buy a gaming console. Handhelds should be for playing games that don't require complex control schemes. Like DJ MAX or Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles.

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PSP is fully capable of running 3D games, because of this, a second analogue stick would help.
Most of PSP best games don't need a single stick, so I don't see why it would need two. 2D handhelds 4 EVA.IronBass
I agree, 2D handheld games are the best.

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I think they proved that when they put the ps3 out in 2007 for over £400.

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UMD joins the ranks of Betamax and Minidisc : (

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while blu-ray prevails;)

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[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"] i never said anything about a 'proper analogue stick', i just want another thumb-slider thing and them in a better position. consider the possibilities. FPS would be much better to play, third person games would be a helluva a lot better know i can control the camera simply rather then that infuriating shoulder button system, better inventory control etc.... All this could be possible on a portable system with that extra analogue stick. Just because a game is complex doesn't mean it can only be played on consoles. foxhound_fox


That's the point... the PSP shouldn't be about playing shooters... those are console games. Handhelds have always been about simple games that don't require complex control schemes. Like side-scrollers, puzzle games or music games. Like Loco Roco, Crush, DJ MAX, Patapon and Symphony of the Night.

What about something with a control system like that of arcade hit Smash TV (a twin-stick 2D game)? That's doesn't have to be a complicated type of game, and it would really benefit from having an analog stick on the right (because you move with the left, attack with the right).

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[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"]really? because last time i checked the best DS games were "side-scrollers, puzzle games or music games", which is what you said you enjoy.IronBass
By GR, the best DS games are an Action/Adventure (GTA:CW), a Trun-Based Strategy game (Advnce Wars DS), a Racer (Mario Kart DS) and only one side scroller (Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow).

what about meteos, elite beat agents and super mario which are side scrollers/ puzzlers. in contrast the only top 10 psp side scroller/puzzler/ music game is Lumines.
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Remember all those rumors that said Sony would lower the price of the PS3 last year, and then all those rumors again by sources which "confirmed" that they would drop it during GDC. Well those were all "confirmed" by many people in the gaming and retail industry, but nothing happened. Moral of the story, NEVER believe rumors about Sony. Even supposedly "confirmed" ones.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"]really? because last time i checked the best DS games were "side-scrollers, puzzle games or music games", which is what you said you enjoy.iLikeTheWoods
By GR, the best DS games are an Action/Adventure (GTA:CW), a Trun-Based Strategy game (Advnce Wars DS), a Racer (Mario Kart DS) and only one side scroller (Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow).

what about meteos, elite beat agents and super mario which are side scrollers/ puzzlers. in contrast the only top 10 psp side scroller/puzzler/ music game is Lumines.

Fair enough, you win :P
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I don't enjoy games that actively use the touch screen either, like for MPH or the StartFox game.

DS's best games also don't use the touch screen too much.

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I do. Games like GTA: CW and Zelda: PH use them brilliantly. It adds a lot of depth to handheld gaming.

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[QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"]Remember all those rumors that said Sony would lower the price of the PS3 last year, and then all those rumors again by sources which "confirmed" that they would drop it during GDC. Well those were all "confirmed" by many people in the gaming and retail industry, but nothing happened. Moral of the story, NEVER believe rumors about Sony. Even supposedly "confirmed" ones.

Sony PR puts out so much BS it's hard to wade through it. Seriously if you head some of the things people took for granted about the PS3 in '05 '06 and even'07 the you would just laugh, silly things like the way the cell works or thinking that Blu-Ray renders the graphics. All this was not helped by Sony PR/Ads that on the surface seemed to claim this.
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#41 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

So let me get this straight, you're making a thread complaining about how Sony doesn't listen to their customers, based off a rumor that hasn't even been confirmed?

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did you read the first post?

I know it isn't confirmed if it's even gonna be announced but most news outlets seem certain it is. I just can't understand how they can fail to put dual analogue sticks on it. This has been the most important piece of criticism about it since launch and they don't do anything about it. Just like the ps3 they think they know what's best for us, what we'll enjoy most and once again there wrong for the most part. It's sad a company can fail to hear out it's loyal fanbase. iLikeTheWoods

Sorry, you're basing this off a rumor and your personal preferences.

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#42 FloWeN-UK
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I take it hardly anyone has played a FPS or TPS on the PSP.. They play frikking awful. You have to turn or strafe with the square and circle buttons and it's clunky as hell. A second analog is needed.

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#43 iLikeTheWoods
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"] developers could build up a psp game without giving a crap about dual sticks but in the end it would still feel much more enjoyable on the dual stick system with just an extra configuration. Think of every shooter and sports game that is out on the psp now and ask yourself whether you wouldn't love that extra analogue.

I would. The problem is I'm not going to spend $50+ for that extra analog stick, and I'm not going to pay $30-40 for a game that is inherently better on another platform. All Sony does by adding an extra analog stick is alienate the majority of their current consumer base, which is decidedly not a good thing when a) your system is generally considered to be lacking in quality titles, b) the competition is cheaper and more popular, c) you have a major piracy problem and d) you are counting on that consumer base when you release the PSP 2.

think of it as a peripheral. e.g dualshock 3. If you want to stick to the old version you'll be just fine but if you really want the full experience you'll shell out for it. I haven't heard of infuriated sixaxis users so far, and the DS3 has sold well. if people really want the stick they'll pay the $50. If not they can enjoy their games the way they always have. It wont mean they'll ditch their psps
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#44 TREAL_Since
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They actually listen more than yuo would expect. PSN is where it is today because of the fans at the Official Playstation Forums!
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#45 irish4eva
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Syphon filter has the best control scheme for the psp nailed and so does Socom
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#46 halo_wars86
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i hope this turn out to be the psp 2 because all the other models i found online suck big time.

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#47 TREAL_Since
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Why does a handheld need dual analogue sticks? Heck, why does a handheld need an analogue stick in the first place?

If analogue sticks are so important, buy a gaming console. Handhelds should be for playing games that don't require complex control schemes. Like DJ MAX or Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles.

foxhound_fox

I was actually pleased that they didn't add another nub. I think it would be wierd playing a traditional FPS control scheme on a handled.

A touch screen would be nice with the huge LCD display though Touch is the future of mobile gaming I think, thanks to Ninty.

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#48 FloWeN-UK
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[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"] did you read the first post?Lionheart08

I know it isn't confirmed if it's even gonna be announced but most news outlets seem certain it is. I just can't understand how they can fail to put dual analogue sticks on it. This has been the most important piece of criticism about it since launch and they don't do anything about it. Just like the ps3 they think they know what's best for us, what we'll enjoy most and once again there wrong for the most part. It's sad a company can fail to hear out it's loyal fanbase. iLikeTheWoods

Sorry, you're basing this off a rumor and your personal preferences.

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He's basing it off a rumor thats highly probable of coming reality. Heck I remember hearing about this UMDless PSP about a 5-6 months ago and the news is still trailing all the way to this very day. The 1 analog stick is a fatal flaw with the PSP that needs addressing. That is fact.
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#49 iLikeTheWoods
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[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"] did you read the first post?Lionheart08

I know it isn't confirmed if it's even gonna be announced but most news outlets seem certain it is. I just can't understand how they can fail to put dual analogue sticks on it. This has been the most important piece of criticism about it since launch and they don't do anything about it. Just like the ps3 they think they know what's best for us, what we'll enjoy most and once again there wrong for the most part. It's sad a company can fail to hear out it's loyal fanbase. iLikeTheWoods

Sorry, you're basing this off a rumor and your personal preferences.

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yeah, my mistake. i just meant that it according to the press it seems as good as confirmed. Kind of like it's been elevated above rumor status. look at this from 1up http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3173959
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#50 Bigboi500
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i hope this turn out to be the psp 2 because all the other models i found online suck big time.

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I'd love something like that and buy it in a heartbeat.