PSP 2: Proof sony don't listen to consumers.

i hope this turn out to be the psp 2 because all the other models i found online suck big time.

halo_wars86

i hope this turn out to be the psp 2 because all the other models i found online suck big time.

halo_wars86

i hope this turn out to be the psp 2 because all the other models i found online suck big time.

halo_wars86

Not bad. :) A few issues I have with it though:

1. The screen doesn't look like it'll slide over the buttons and analog sticks. They need to be pushed in a bit more.
2. That thing is way too huge to fit in a pocket.
3. No shoulder buttons...Not even an area to grip with your index fingers, making it easy to knock out of your hand.

think of it as a peripheral. e.g dualshock 3. If you want to stick to the old version you'll be just fine but if you really want the full experience you'll shell out for it. I haven't heard of infuriated sixaxis users so far, and the DS3 has sold well. if people really want the stick they'll pay the $50. If not they can enjoy their games the way they always have. It wont mean they'll ditch their psps iLikeTheWoods

The thing is you won't be fine sticking with the old version. Publishers/developers have demonstrated that they love shoe-horning console-centric games onto the PSP, despite the fact those games do not play particularly well in a portable setting. If they get another analog stick to work with, all we'll see is more Q&D ports and spin-offs of console games that, for the majority of PSP users, will control like a PC game where the mouse has been replaced by the arrow keys. I'm already fed up with the PSP's lack of unique and/or portable friendly games, the last thing I want is a deluge of PS2 ports.

And you're comparing apples to oranges with your controller analogy. It's easy to justify buying a new controller, it isn't easy (or as far as I'm concerned, possible for the vast majority of consumers) to justify spending $50+ on an updated PSP that can't play any of the games your currently own.

[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"]
think of it as a peripheral. e.g dualshock 3. If you want to stick to the old version you'll be just fine but if you really want the full experience you'll shell out for it. I haven't heard of infuriated sixaxis users so far, and the DS3 has sold well. if people really want the stick they'll pay the $50. If not they can enjoy their games the way they always have. It wont mean they'll ditch their psps PBSnipes

The thing is you won't be fine sticking with the old version. Publishers/developers have demonstrated that they love shoe-horning console-centric games onto the PSP, despite the fact those games do not play particularly well in a portable setting. If they get another analog stick to work with, all we'll see is more Q&D ports and spin-offs of console games that, for the majority of PSP users, will control like a PC game where the mouse has been replaced by the arrow keys. I'm already fed up with the PSP's lack of unique and/or portable friendly games, the last thing I want is a deluge of PS2 ports.

And you're comparing apples to oranges with your controller analogy. It's easy to justify buying a new controller, it isn't easy (or as far as I'm concerned, possible for the vast majority of consumers) to justify spending $50+ on an updated PSP that can't play any of the games your currently own.

A.) Rumors.

B.) Maybe they'll compensate with some motion sensing or touch screen.

C.) Maybe they're trying to keep the PSP compatible with all current games, and all upcoming games compatible with the current PSP.

D.) Rumors.

EDIT: And by saying "maybe they're trying to keep the PSP compatible with all current games" I'm referencing the fact how they have some games downloadable on the PSN already. I know the PSP 2 apparently cant play UMDs.

Why would you want a second analog stick when the original one is so bad and useless for a lot of PSP games?beast667

[QUOTE="mglbpkillz"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Most of PSP best games don't need a single stick, so I don't see why it would need two. 2D handhelds 4 EVA.IronBass

[QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

i hope this turn out to be the psp 2 because all the other models i found online suck big time.

Technoweirdo

Not bad. :) A few issues I have with it though:

1. The screen doesn't look like it'll slide over the buttons and analog sticks. They need to be pushed in a bit more.
2. That thing is way too huge to fit in a pocket.
3. No shoulder buttons...Not even an area to grip with your index fingers, making it easy to knock out of your hand.

For #2, if the controls are no bigger than those on a Dual Shock, that thing should be no longer than a Dual Shock controller. My Palm T|X would be about that size, and it fits in my pocket comfortably.

To address #3 partially, there appears to be a natural well in the top back of the think where index or middle fingers could naturally rest. With the rest of the fingers against the back of the device and thumbs on the front, it looks like it could be gripped satisfactorily. As for shoulder buttons, they might still be there on the back (just hidden).

[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"]I know it isn't confirmed if it's even gonna be announced but most news outlets seem certain it is. I just can't understand how they can fail to put dual analogue sticks on it. This has been the most important piece of criticism about it since launch and they don't do anything about it. Just like the ps3 they think they know what's best for us, what we'll enjoy most and once again there wrong for the most part. It's sad a company can fail to hear out it's loyal fanbase. Jrfanfreak88

good for u but others like fps on the go and looking as they already have psp fps why not improve the controls.mglbpkillz

I know it isn't confirmed if it's even gonna be announced but most news outlets seem certain it is. I just can't understand how they can fail to put dual analogue sticks on it. This has been the most important piece of criticism about it since launch and they don't do anything about it. Just like the ps3 they think they know what's best for us, what we'll enjoy most and once again there wrong for the most part. It's sad a company can fail to hear out it's loyal fanbase. iLikeTheWoods

Wait a minute this sounds like Nintendo!!!

I know it isn't confirmed if it's even gonna be announced but most news outlets seem certain it is. I just can't understand how they can fail to put dual analogue sticks on it. This has been the most important piece of criticism about it since launch and they don't do anything about it. Just like the ps3 they think they know what's best for us, what we'll enjoy most and once again there wrong for the most part. It's sad a company can fail to hear out it's loyal fanbase. iLikeTheWoods

Its simple, Because that would make it so games what require the second analog stick wouldn't work on the normal psp, Which 50 million people have....So that would be a bad move, the psp2 will mostlikely have two analogs but not a redisigned psp

This is more like a DSi than a psp2, except less useless

[QUOTE="Technoweirdo"]

[QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

i hope this turn out to be the psp 2 because all the other models i found online suck big time.

HuusAsking

Not bad. :) A few issues I have with it though:

1. The screen doesn't look like it'll slide over the buttons and analog sticks. They need to be pushed in a bit more.
2. That thing is way too huge to fit in a pocket.
3. No shoulder buttons...Not even an area to grip with your index fingers, making it easy to knock out of your hand.

For #2, if the controls are no bigger than those on a Dual Shock, that thing should be no longer than a Dual Shock controller. My Palm T|X would be about that size, and it fits in my pocket comfortably. Since the size of it is speculation, we're both stuck on this point. :P For argument's sake though, we'll assume it's length is the same as a Dual Shock. I'm not quite as concerned with the length as I am with the width. One dimension of an object can be large yet still fit into a pocket as long as the other dimension. Both dimensions of this PSP2 fan creation are, however, roughly equal on a quick glance. If I were to put a PS2 controller in my pocket, long side facing down, it wouldn't fit. The PSP2, given that both dimensions are equal and equal to the PS2 length-wise, wouldn't fit either.

To address #3 partially, there appears to be a natural well in the top back of the think where index or middle fingers could naturally rest. With the rest of the fingers against the back of the device and thumbs on the front, it looks like it could be gripped satisfactorily. As for shoulder buttons, they might still be there on the back (just hidden). That well looks a bit far to me...>.> Again, size is pure speculation. It could be much larger than shown, requiring a giant's hand to hold it. Then again, it could be much smaller. Point taken though.

I also just noticed something, or rather the lack of something: Without any sound holes, where's the sound supposed to come from (headphones aside)? Maybe I'm not looking carefully enough? :P

UMD joins the ranks of Betamax and Minidisc : (

RedFactionFan

I know it isn't confirmed if it's even gonna be announced but most news outlets seem certain it is. I just can't understand how they can fail to put dual analogue sticks on it. This has been the most important piece of criticism about it since launch and they don't do anything about it. Just like the ps3 they think they know what's best for us, what we'll enjoy most and once again there wrong for the most part. It's sad a company can fail to hear out it's loyal fanbase. iLikeTheWoods

Why does a handheld need dual analogue sticks? Heck, why does a handheld need an analogue stick in the first place?

If analogue sticks are so important, buy a gaming console. Handhelds should be for playing games that don't require complex control schemes. Like DJ MAX or Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles.

foxhound_fox

i disagree, i think its so you can play console games(or just quality games) on the go.

Why does a handheld need dual analogue sticks? Heck, why does a handheld need an analogue stick in the first place?

If analogue sticks are so important, buy a gaming console. Handhelds should be for playing games that don't require complex control schemes. Like DJ MAX or Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles.

foxhound_fox

I don't see what the problem with the PSP having one analog stick. Even games like Resistance are still really fun, despite the one analog stick.

I take it hardly anyone has played a FPS or TPS on the PSP.. They play frikking awful. You have to turn or strafe with the square and circle buttons and it's clunky as hell. A second analog is needed.

FloWeN-UK

I have Resistance and Logan's Shadow, and they are really fun. Sony Bend made a good control scheme IMO.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

The PSP Go!/4000 is *not* the PSP 2. That is why it a) has the exact same button configuration as the PSP and b) will only play PSP games.

iLikeTheWoods

It's simple. People with older PSP models would not be able to play the games that require the second stick.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="Technoweirdo"]

Not bad. :) A few issues I have with it though:

1. The screen doesn't look like it'll slide over the buttons and analog sticks. They need to be pushed in a bit more.
2. That thing is way too huge to fit in a pocket.
3. No shoulder buttons...Not even an area to grip with your index fingers, making it easy to knock out of your hand.

Technoweirdo

For #2, if the controls are no bigger than those on a Dual Shock, that thing should be no longer than a Dual Shock controller. My Palm T|X would be about that size, and it fits in my pocket comfortably. Since the size of it is speculation, we're both stuck on this point. :P For argument's sake though, we'll assume it's length is the same as a Dual Shock. I'm not quite as concerned with the length as I am with the width. One dimension of an object can be large yet still fit into a pocket as long as the other dimension. Both dimensions of this PSP2 fan creation are, however, roughly equal on a quick glance. If I were to put a PS2 controller in my pocket, long side facing down, it wouldn't fit. The PSP2, given that both dimensions are equal and equal to the PS2 length-wise, wouldn't fit either.

To address #3 partially, there appears to be a natural well in the top back of the think where index or middle fingers could naturally rest. With the rest of the fingers against the back of the device and thumbs on the front, it looks like it could be gripped satisfactorily. As for shoulder buttons, they might still be there on the back (just hidden). That well looks a bit far to me...>.> Again, size is pure speculation. It could be much larger than shown, requiring a giant's hand to hold it. Then again, it could be much smaller. Point taken though.

I also just noticed something, or rather the lack of something: Without any sound holes, where's the sound supposed to come from (headphones aside)? Maybe I'm not looking carefully enough? :P

[QUOTE="iLikeTheWoods"] developers could build up a psp game without giving a crap about dual sticks but in the end it would still feel much more enjoyable on the dual stick system with just an extra configuration. Think of every shooter and sports game that is out on the psp now and ask yourself whether you wouldn't love that extra analogue.PBSnipes

sooner or later there will be a PSP2...so.. are people gonna be mad at Sony, because they released a new product that is the succesor of a old model ?

[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

UMD joins the ranks of Betamax and Minidisc : (

ermacness

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