PSP2 CONFIRMED! Android, OLED screen, 3G!

I hope that there won't be a fragmented market here, where the PSPhone has a built in phone but the PSP2 has better games. That would really be stupid, since from the sounds of it the PSP2 is basically a powerful phone that doesn't make phone calls. It would not cost Sony a lot more to integrate the phone feature with the PSP2 and go with the iPod / iPhone business model, so I hope that's what they do. PSP2 - $250 PSPhone - $300, but avalable via contract That's what they should be doing. However, what my fear is that the PSPhone / Xperia Play could just be a run of the mill Android phone with gaming buttons, without much for games except android apps and a few ported PSP titles. That would really suck, because I want the convinience that the Xperia Play looks to offer but I don't want to miss out on the incredible games that the PSP2 will probably have in development. I hope that they're ultimately just two different versions of the same plaform. Also, who knows how old those Xperia Play prototypes are? Sony may have bumped up the specs on it considerably, and these are just the old prototypes that have managed to sneak out.Timstuff

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I hope that there won't be a fragmented market here, where the PSPhone has a built in phone but the PSP2 has better games. That would really be stupid, since from the sounds of it the PSP2 is basically a powerful phone that doesn't make phone calls. It would not cost Sony a lot more to integrate the phone feature with the PSP2 and go with the iPod / iPhone business model, so I hope that's what they do. PSP2 - $250 PSPhone - $300, but avalable via contract That's what they should be doing. However, what my fear is that the PSPhone / Xperia Play could just be a run of the mill Android phone with gaming buttons, without much for games except android apps and a few ported PSP titles. That would really suck, because I want the convinience that the Xperia Play looks to offer but I don't want to miss out on the incredible games that the PSP2 will probably have in development. I hope that they're ultimately just two different versions of the same plaform. Also, who knows how old those Xperia Play prototypes are? Sony may have bumped up the specs on it considerably, and these are just the old prototypes that have managed to sneak out.Mario1331

the 3DS is 250 you really think a 3G OLED mid 360 graphics 16GB PSP2 is going to be as well? thats wishful thinking:roll:

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I hope that there won't be a fragmented market here, where the PSPhone has a built in phone but the PSP2 has better games. That would really be stupid, since from the sounds of it the PSP2 is basically a powerful phone that doesn't make phone calls. It would not cost Sony a lot more to integrate the phone feature with the PSP2 and go with the iPod / iPhone business model, so I hope that's what they do. PSP2 - $250 PSPhone - $300, but avalable via contract That's what they should be doing. However, what my fear is that the PSPhone / Xperia Play could just be a run of the mill Android phone with gaming buttons, without much for games except android apps and a few ported PSP titles. That would really suck, because I want the convinience that the Xperia Play looks to offer but I don't want to miss out on the incredible games that the PSP2 will probably have in development. I hope that they're ultimately just two different versions of the same plaform. Also, who knows how old those Xperia Play prototypes are? Sony may have bumped up the specs on it considerably, and these are just the old prototypes that have managed to sneak out.Mario1331

the 3DS is 250 you really think a 3G OLED mid 360 graphics 16GB PSP2 is going to be as well? thats wishful thinking:roll:

The 3DS needs a powerful processor to render in 3D. Even if the PSP2's graphics are better, it will probably cost about the same since it's not 3D. OLED screens are cost effective which is part of why we are seeing a shift towards them, and also the 3DS's screen is specialized for no-glasses 3D display which is not going to be cheap. Also, the PSP2 doesn't even have to be more powerful than the 3DS on paper to have better graphics, since it will not have to render for each eye like with the 3DS.

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

What exactly is Android OS?

Birdy09

http://www.fudzilla.com/mobiles/item/21611-android-could-be-killed-off-by-suppliers

"Android could be killed off by suppliers"

While Android is one of the best things to hit the mobile phone industry it could be killed off thanks to some bad behaviour on the part of the mobile phone makers

Everyone in the industry is moaning about the operating system fragmenting because phone makers are not upgrading the versions of the operating system. Some of phones are running on versions of Android which are early versions which were best left forgotten.

Sony says hi...

PS: I have bought Sony VaioVGN-FW45 laptop, Sony Bravia 46" LCD (year 2010 model).

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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I hope that there won't be a fragmented market here, where the PSPhone has a built in phone but the PSP2 has better games. That would really be stupid, since from the sounds of it the PSP2 is basically a powerful phone that doesn't make phone calls. It would not cost Sony a lot more to integrate the phone feature with the PSP2 and go with the iPod / iPhone business model, so I hope that's what they do. PSP2 - $250 PSPhone - $300, but avalable via contract That's what they should be doing. However, what my fear is that the PSPhone / Xperia Play could just be a run of the mill Android phone with gaming buttons, without much for games except android apps and a few ported PSP titles. That would really suck, because I want the convinience that the Xperia Play looks to offer but I don't want to miss out on the incredible games that the PSP2 will probably have in development. I hope that they're ultimately just two different versions of the same plaform. Also, who knows how old those Xperia Play prototypes are? Sony may have bumped up the specs on it considerably, and these are just the old prototypes that have managed to sneak out.DerekLoffin

the 3DS is 250 you really think a 3G OLED mid 360 graphics 16GB PSP2 is going to be as well? thats wishful thinking:roll:

you just prove my point its not cheap in to think the psp2 would be the same price some people are grasping for straws...

however its a good price i dont see any thing wrong with the price at all with them trying to push a feature forward and upgrade the graphics to an affordable price..

[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

Having Android on it makes sense

shinrabanshou

So no, it doesn't really make sense.

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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I hope that there won't be a fragmented market here, where the PSPhone has a built in phone but the PSP2 has better games. That would really be stupid, since from the sounds of it the PSP2 is basically a powerful phone that doesn't make phone calls. It would not cost Sony a lot more to integrate the phone feature with the PSP2 and go with the iPod / iPhone business model, so I hope that's what they do. PSP2 - $250 PSPhone - $300, but avalable via contract That's what they should be doing. However, what my fear is that the PSPhone / Xperia Play could just be a run of the mill Android phone with gaming buttons, without much for games except android apps and a few ported PSP titles. That would really suck, because I want the convinience that the Xperia Play looks to offer but I don't want to miss out on the incredible games that the PSP2 will probably have in development. I hope that they're ultimately just two different versions of the same plaform. Also, who knows how old those Xperia Play prototypes are? Sony may have bumped up the specs on it considerably, and these are just the old prototypes that have managed to sneak out.Timstuff

the 3DS is 250 you really think a 3G OLED mid 360 graphics 16GB PSP2 is going to be as well? thats wishful thinking:roll:

The 3DS needs a powerful processor to render in 3D. Even if the PSP2's graphics are better, it will probably cost about the same since it's not 3D. OLED screens are cost effective which is part of why we are seeing a shift towards them, and also the 3DS's screen is specialized for no-glasses 3D display which is not going to be cheap. Also, the PSP2 doesn't even have to be more powerful than the 3DS on paper to have better graphics, since it will not have to render for each eye like with the 3DS.

your obviously not reading the specs the psp2 is overall a beast compared to the 3ds, and also it has 3g service and an oled screen, oled screens alone are very expensive, the only thing holding your theory semi possible is that sony sells for a loss and if the psp2 is made at 350 then they wouldnt mind selling it for a 250 lost

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I hope that there won't be a fragmented market here, where the PSPhone has a built in phone but the PSP2 has better games. That would really be stupid, since from the sounds of it the PSP2 is basically a powerful phone that doesn't make phone calls. It would not cost Sony a lot more to integrate the phone feature with the PSP2 and go with the iPod / iPhone business model, so I hope that's what they do. PSP2 - $250 PSPhone - $300, but avalable via contract That's what they should be doing. However, what my fear is that the PSPhone / Xperia Play could just be a run of the mill Android phone with gaming buttons, without much for games except android apps and a few ported PSP titles. That would really suck, because I want the convinience that the Xperia Play looks to offer but I don't want to miss out on the incredible games that the PSP2 will probably have in development. I hope that they're ultimately just two different versions of the same plaform. Also, who knows how old those Xperia Play prototypes are? Sony may have bumped up the specs on it considerably, and these are just the old prototypes that have managed to sneak out.lbjkurono23

It smells a bit fishy to me, though. If this is the finalized hardware, how are so many of them getting out to the public already? If these are earlier prototypes, it's a bit more logical that Sony would not be keeping as close of an eye on them, making them easy to sneak out. Also, we have no idea what the exact specs are on the one Engadget has, or what kinds of games it will run since all they had were unofficial emulators which aren't even optimized for mobile CPU perfomance.

I'm hoping all will be answered with tonight's announcement. The big question for me is if the PSP2 and Xperia Play are two separate platforms, or two versions of the same platform. Both apparently run on Android and have 3G, both have twin analog "sticks," and both have high resolution screens, so it all comes down to whether or not Sony is either A) too cheap to put a phone in the PSP2 or B) too cheap to put the PSP2's processor and GPU into the Xperia Play. If they are a "shared platform" like the iPod and iPhone though, I will be first in line to buy the Xperia Play because that would be exactly the kind of device I've been wanting for years.

What exactly is Android OS?

Why does this seem like Deja vu? Nintendo comes out withhardware that'saccessable but not as powerful as Sony's handheld. Fast forward some years and Nintendo is guzzling ds money while psp is doing well, but not nearly as much as ninty. Point? GAMES. GAMES sell a system. Please tell me Sony has learned this, or history will repeat.

HAHAH so i was right!!! The PSP2 is a phone. IN YO FACES!!!!!!!! FOOS!!! I kid i kid...ill wait for an official announcement b4 i gloat. Still if this is true....i am dissapoint. I rly wanted a PSP2

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

What exactly is Android OS?

ronvalencia

http://www.fudzilla.com/mobiles/item/21611-android-could-be-killed-off-by-suppliers

"Android could be killed off by suppliers"

While Android is one of the best things to hit the mobile phone industry it could be killed off thanks to some bad behaviour on the part of the mobile phone makers

HAHAH so i was right!!! The PSP2 is a phone. IN YO FACES!!!!!!!! FOOS!!! I kid i kid...ill wait for an official announcement b4 i gloat. Still if this is true....i am dissapoint. I rly wanted a PSP2

painguy1

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] Google's Operating system, because people are finally realizing apple are crap.Birdy09

There's a difference buggy apps vs inconsistent middleware. I'm aware of iPhone's own issues.

Voice activation+blue-tooth is an important safety feature.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] At least Apple's iOS is consistent. ronvalencia

HAHAH so i was right!!! The PSP2 is a phone. IN YO FACES!!!!!!!! FOOS!!! I kid i kid...ill wait for an official announcement b4 i gloat. Still if this is true....i am dissapoint. I rly wanted a PSP2

painguy1

HAHAH so i was right!!! The PSP2 is a phone. IN YO FACES!!!!!!!! FOOS!!! I kid i kid...ill wait for an official announcement b4 i gloat. Still if this is true....i am dissapoint. I rly wanted a PSP2

painguy1

if you guys buy an official Google nexus phone you would have every update to android out there immediately.

android is a good thing what else is there iOS?! give me a break. At least you have freedom with Android.

Please dont cost more than $300 sony hope you learned :P

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I hope that there won't be a fragmented market here, where the PSPhone has a built in phone but the PSP2 has better games. That would really be stupid, since from the sounds of it the PSP2 is basically a powerful phone that doesn't make phone calls. It would not cost Sony a lot more to integrate the phone feature with the PSP2 and go with the iPod / iPhone business model, so I hope that's what they do. PSP2 - $250 PSPhone - $300, but avalable via contract That's what they should be doing. However, what my fear is that the PSPhone / Xperia Play could just be a run of the mill Android phone with gaming buttons, without much for games except android apps and a few ported PSP titles. That would really suck, because I want the convinience that the Xperia Play looks to offer but I don't want to miss out on the incredible games that the PSP2 will probably have in development. I hope that they're ultimately just two different versions of the same plaform. Also, who knows how old those Xperia Play prototypes are? Sony may have bumped up the specs on it considerably, and these are just the old prototypes that have managed to sneak out.stereointegrity

the 3DS is 250 you really think a 3G OLED mid 360 graphics 16GB PSP2 is going to be as well? thats wishful thinking:roll:

thats the nexus one though sony is not good with prices and im suprised some think they are going to have a rival price of 250. with all these features its going to be no ore then 350 no less then 300 its not going to be 250 or anything less thats obvious

you just prove my point its not cheap in to think the psp2 would be the same price some people are grasping for straws...

however its a good price i dont see any thing wrong with the price at all with them trying to push a feature forward and upgrade the graphics to an affordable price..

Mario1331

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you just prove my point its not cheap in to think the psp2 would be the same price some people are grasping for straws...

however its a good price i dont see any thing wrong with the price at all with them trying to push a feature forward and upgrade the graphics to an affordable price..

DerekLoffin

so you feel the 3DS is overpriced when i feel it isnt. To say the PSP2 is going to have more features then the 3DS and be priced at 250 is ridiculous i dont care what anybody says about that realistically speaking.

The 3DS can be cheaper hell anything can be cheaper then the original price but for a company that just sells games and only games they need to make profit and to be selling this unique hardware at 250 and assuming they are still making a profit thats pretty damn good. people just tend to expect too much this is an expensive hobby

Wait so both psp2 and psp phone used android ...Sweet

Android would be perfect ......... why ? Apps. Nonstop-Madness

Well I've found something I don't like about the PSP2 finally. Android. :?musicalmac

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HAHAH so i was right!!! The PSP2 is a phone. IN YO FACES!!!!!!!! FOOS!!! I kid i kid...ill wait for an official announcement b4 i gloat. Still if this is true....i am dissapoint. I rly wanted a PSP2

jasonharris48

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

you just prove my point its not cheap in to think the psp2 would be the same price some people are grasping for straws...

however its a good price i dont see any thing wrong with the price at all with them trying to push a feature forward and upgrade the graphics to an affordable price..

Mario1331

so you feel the 3DS is overpriced when i feel it isnt. To say the PSP2 is going to have more features then the 3DS and be priced at 250 is ridiculous i dont care what anybody says about that realistically speaking.

The 3DS can be cheaper hell anything can be cheaper then the original price but for a company that just sells games and only games they need to make profit and to be selling this unique hardware at 250 and assuming they are still making a profit thats pretty damn good. people just tend to expect too much this is an expensive hobby

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

you just prove my point its not cheap in to think the psp2 would be the same price some people are grasping for straws...

however its a good price i dont see any thing wrong with the price at all with them trying to push a feature forward and upgrade the graphics to an affordable price..

Mario1331

so you feel the 3DS is overpriced when i feel it isnt. To say the PSP2 is going to have more features then the 3DS and be priced at 250 is ridiculous i dont care what anybody says about that realistically speaking.

The 3DS can be cheaper hell anything can be cheaper then the original price but for a company that just sells games and only games they need to make profit and to be selling this unique hardware at 250 and assuming they are still making a profit thats pretty damn good. people just tend to expect too much this is an expensive hobby

[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Cloud (Internet) centric OS e.g. it's voice activation features uses the Google services(via the internet). ronvalencia

You sure you're not thinking of Chrome OS? Admittedly, android does have the google services and stuff, but I think Chrome OS is the cloud based Google OS.

I have unrestricted access to Sony Ericsson's recently released Xperia X10 Mini-Pro for about two months before the owner dump it. It's voice activation functions uses the internet, which is ****(ISPs would love since it increases download usage). It's blue-tooth+voice activation support is broken.

There's a petition to force Sony to up-date Xperia X10 to Android OS 2.2 http://www.petitiononline.com/froyo/

26069 Xperia X10 owners are not happy with Sony's support.

My phone contract about to be completed and I'm not happy with Android OS.

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[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"] No, the point was that 3DS can potentially be seriously overpriced for the cost of the hardware. Nintendo has a tendency to do just that. You assume using the 3DS price as a measuring stick means anything when it doesn't.DerekLoffin

so you feel the 3DS is overpriced when i feel it isnt. To say the PSP2 is going to have more features then the 3DS and be priced at 250 is ridiculous i dont care what anybody says about that realistically speaking.

The 3DS can be cheaper hell anything can be cheaper then the original price but for a company that just sells games and only games they need to make profit and to be selling this unique hardware at 250 and assuming they are still making a profit thats pretty damn good. people just tend to expect too much this is an expensive hobby

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="falconclan"] Could be a mistranslation or something. I seriously doubt the PSP2 will use android unless PSP2 and Play Xheria or whatever the hell its called are the same (and they aren't)

falconclan

I'll get it once it gets down to $200 dollars.I have a feeling this thing is gonna be $300 plus. :(

Sweet though, the OLED screen will definitly make up for 3G, when 4G is out (correct). I have no opinions on Android though.

so you feel the 3DS is overpriced when i feel it isnt. To say the PSP2 is going to have more features then the 3DS and be priced at 250 is ridiculous i dont care what anybody says about that realistically speaking.

The 3DS can be cheaper hell anything can be cheaper then the original price but for a company that just sells games and only games they need to make profit and to be selling this unique hardware at 250 and assuming they are still making a profit thats pretty damn good. people just tend to expect too much this is an expensive hobby

Mario1331

I'll get it once it gets down to $200 dollars.I have a feeling this thing is gonna be $300 plus. :(

Sweet though, the OLED screen will definitly make up for 3G, when 4G is out (correct). I have no opinions on Android though.

hayato_

America is a looooooong way from adopting anything that resembles 4G on a large scale.

I have a feeling the GPU will be the Adreno 220.JigglyWiggly_

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[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"] No, the point was that 3DS can potentially be seriously overpriced for the cost of the hardware. Nintendo has a tendency to do just that. You assume using the 3DS price as a measuring stick means anything when it doesn't.DerekLoffin

so you feel the 3DS is overpriced when i feel it isnt. To say the PSP2 is going to have more features then the 3DS and be priced at 250 is ridiculous i dont care what anybody says about that realistically speaking.

The 3DS can be cheaper hell anything can be cheaper then the original price but for a company that just sells games and only games they need to make profit and to be selling this unique hardware at 250 and assuming they are still making a profit thats pretty damn good. people just tend to expect too much this is an expensive hobby

i get what your saying and i would agree if only OLED and 3G wasnt expensive itself. even though nintendo sell a little more expensive its still affordable something sony doesnt do at launch to well...

however i do see what your saying but my logic really is not that flawed

Please dont cost more than $300 sony hope you learned :P

finalstar2007

Do they ever?

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

so you feel the 3DS is overpriced when i feel it isnt. To say the PSP2 is going to have more features then the 3DS and be priced at 250 is ridiculous i dont care what anybody says about that realistically speaking.

The 3DS can be cheaper hell anything can be cheaper then the original price but for a company that just sells games and only games they need to make profit and to be selling this unique hardware at 250 and assuming they are still making a profit thats pretty damn good. people just tend to expect too much this is an expensive hobby

Timstuff

the psp2 will have mid 360 graphics so its gpu card or whatever is going to be pricey too if im correct, im not saying its going to be 500 but 300-350 isnt unreasonable about the same price of the ps3.

[QUOTE="hayato_"]

I'll get it once it gets down to $200 dollars.I have a feeling this thing is gonna be $300 plus. :(

Sweet though, the OLED screen will definitly make up for 3G, when 4G is out (correct). I have no opinions on Android though.

Timstuff

America is a looooooong way from adopting anything that resembles 4G on a large scale.

How long before Android is removed, I wonder.. themyth01

Why not use your own OS sony?sergemyster8