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#1 DragonFlyJ
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I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers. People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW. It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point. They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

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#2 bf2nutta
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get over yourself will you.. I hate this elitist attitude which is getting worse round here, so freaking what if famaily want to enjoy themselves by playing on a Wii...
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#3 air_wolf_cubed
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Theres already a giant thread about this. BTW The Wii is never getting kiced out of SW regardless of how many Cows/Lems vote yes /thread
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I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers. People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW. It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point. They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

DragonFlyJ

Huh....just huh....buying a ps2 is a much better deal than buying a wii imo.

Tbh....i somehow agree with what you said, i don't like the games available on the wii, honestly, is there anyone above 14 who owns a wii?

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#5 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]

I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers. People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW. It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point. They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

Al3x_n90

Huh....just huh....buying a ps2 is a much better deal than buying a wii imo.

Tbh....i agree with what you said, i don't like the games available on the wii, honestly, is there anyone above 14 who owns a wii?

Me. Stupid argument confirmed
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#6 Al3x_n90
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]

I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers. People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW. It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point. They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

air_wolf_cubed

Huh....just huh....buying a ps2 is a much better deal than buying a wii imo.

Tbh....i agree with what you said, i don't like the games available on the wii, honestly, is there anyone above 14 who owns a wii?

Me. Stupid argument confirmed

Why did you buy the wii?for family fun? i don't hate the wii, i just don't like what it has to offer, depends on taste,

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I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers. People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW. It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point. They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

DragonFlyJ

yourselffitness disagrees with you.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/sports/yourselffitness/index.html?tag=result;title;0

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[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]

I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers. People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW. It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point. They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

Al3x_n90

Huh....just huh....buying a ps2 is a much better deal than buying a wii imo.

Tbh....i agree with what you said, i don't like the games available on the wii, honestly, is there anyone above 14 who owns a wii?

of course alot of grampa and grandma have a wii.
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I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers. People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW. It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point. They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

DragonFlyJ
I never counted the wii anyways, so it doesn't really matter to me if it is or isn't removed from SW. But I voted to remove it.
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#10 Al3x_n90
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]

I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers. People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW. It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point. They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

legol1

Huh....just huh....buying a ps2 is a much better deal than buying a wii imo.

Tbh....i agree with what you said, i don't like the games available on the wii, honestly, is there anyone above 14 who owns a wii?

of course alot of grampa and grandma have a wii.

I don't think old people are into video games:| are they?

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#11 789shadow
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Stupid thread confirmed.The Wii is a console,and nothing will change that.Wii is here in Sytem Wars to stay.
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If it plays games, it belongs on System Wars regardless of audience. Why do you think we've kept the PC here for? PC's target everyone but can be used as a gaming system so we're keeping it in System Wars. The Wii targets everyone but is primarily a gaming system and for whatever reason, we're considering disqualifying it from System Wars.

Funny, ain't it?

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I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers.

Pove it. Prove me that the 30 Millions Wii-owners are not gamers. I got one, and also a 360, and I'm pretty sure I'm a gamer.Your opinion doesn't change it.

People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

Again. Prove it.

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW.

And the Wii has MP3, SMG (higher ranked than ALL the game you listed), SSBB, NMH, Zack and Wiki, RE4 Wii Edition, FERD etc etc. Just 1.5 years later.

It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point.

No, it doesn't. What Intendo show in the E3 is not all that Nintendo has. Showing =/= all you have.

They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

Well, it is a device, whose primary funtion is to play videgames. So it is a console. So, it belongs to Systems Wars. It doesn't matter how many polls you do, the Wii is a videogame console, FACT. And actually the one which is winning.

Again, your opinion doesn't change it.

DragonFlyJ
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"They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after"

Sure they are, but they're also after the casuals.

This thread in a nutshell- Nintendo Cheated :cry:

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#15 aliasfreak
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At this point, there really isn't anything Nintendo can do to win back this gamer in this generation. They want to go after the casual market, so be it, it is obviously a smart financial move. Just stop acting like you are still catering to the core gamers. Their E3 was a casual fest, they should just admit it and move on instead of acting like the announcements of Animal Crossing and that the Mario and Zelda teams are working on games should appease core gamers.

I'm sad that they went this way, but they have. In conclusion, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Wii gone from SW, but it will never happen.

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Ummm... I really hope that the TC actually read the sticky above about using Opinions. Just because you don't like the Wii doesn't mean it should be kicked out of system wars.
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#17 bf2nutta
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"They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after"

Sure they are, but they're also after the casuals.

This thread in a nutshell- Nintendo Cheated :cry:

BubbyJello

lol so true...

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#18 ng1234
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You can be a insecure fanboy about it all you want. It will never happen. Wii not only dominates sales wise... but also games wise in quality AAA exclusives.

Deal with it kiddo's. Nintendo is the market leader. You lemkids and cows need to stop with the denial.

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At this point, there really isn't anything Nintendo can do to win back this gamer in this generation. They want to go after the casual market, so be it, it is obviously a smart financial move. Just stop acting like you are still catering to the core gamers. Their E3 was a casual fest, they should just admit it and move on instead of acting like the announcements of Animal Crossing and that the Mario and Zelda teams are working on games should appease core gamers.

I'm sad that they went this way, but they have. In conclusion, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Wii gone from SW, but it will never happen.

aliasfreak
I think its funny when people spew out BS and the pwnage is in the same thread before they even posted :D
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At this point, there really isn't anything Nintendo can do to win back this gamer in this generation. They want to go after the casual market, so be it, it is obviously a smart financial move. Just stop acting like you are still catering to the core gamers. Their E3 was a casual fest, they should just admit it and move on instead of acting like the announcements of Animal Crossing and that the Mario and Zelda teams are working on games should appease core gamers.

I'm sad that they went this way, but they have. In conclusion, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Wii gone from SW, but it will never happen.

aliasfreak

those were the announcents that I was hoping for, especially Animal Crossing.... and I have a 360, PC and Wii.

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At this point, there really isn't anything Nintendo can do to win back this gamer in this generation. They want to go after the casual market, so be it, it is obviously a smart financial move. Just stop acting like you are still catering to the core gamers. Their E3 was a casual fest, they should just admit it and move on instead of acting like the announcements of Animal Crossing and that the Mario and Zelda teams are working on games should appease core gamers.

I'm sad that they went this way, but they have. In conclusion, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Wii gone from SW, but it will never happen.

aliasfreak

Crap the Wii the offers me something the other consoles don't.... thats your opinion

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#22 dotWithShoes
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[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]

I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers. People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW. It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point. They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

Al3x_n90

Huh....just huh....buying a ps2 is a much better deal than buying a wii imo.

Tbh....i agree with what you said, i don't like the games available on the wii, honestly, is there anyone above 14 who owns a wii?

of course alot of grampa and grandma have a wii.

I don't think old people are into video games:| are they?

Considering most of todays 'old people' were 'young people'(no not 12 yearolds like most 360 owners it seems, but late teens/early 20's) when the video game(arcade) industry first started, I'd say then YES a lot of 'old people' are into video games. Probably even more so than you'll ever be.

TC, you said the Wii isn't after the same people Sony, Microsoft and PC(PC is a company now?) are after ... Ask yourself this, you think Sony and Microsoft would give up their first born child to get the same crowd Nintendo has. They are companies that like money, and Nintendo found where the money is. You don't think PS and PS2 sold over 100 million and 130 million to nothing but gamers do ya? No dont think so. As for PC, no offense to PC gamers as it has some massively awesome games and you added them in here to make your arguement have some sort of merit, I guess. But the PC gaming market has some of the MOST casual style games ANYWHERE.

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woah that went quick, nice.

/thread

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#24 ONLYDOD
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Are you upset that the Wii is selling more than your console?
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#25 MojondeVACA
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Cry me a river by that logic,the ps3 should be also remove it.
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#26 aliasfreak
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[QUOTE="aliasfreak"]

At this point, there really isn't anything Nintendo can do to win back this gamer in this generation. They want to go after the casual market, so be it, it is obviously a smart financial move. Just stop acting like you are still catering to the core gamers. Their E3 was a casual fest, they should just admit it and move on instead of acting like the announcements of Animal Crossing and that the Mario and Zelda teams are working on games should appease core gamers.

I'm sad that they went this way, but they have. In conclusion, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Wii gone from SW, but it will never happen.

obsolete2k1

those were the announcents that I was hoping for, especially Animal Crossing.... and I have a 360, PC and Wii.

So you are happy that you have no earthly idea when the next Mario or Zelda game are coming, only that at some point in the future they will be? No info on story, on gameplay, on anything? You sir are easy to please.

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#27 bf2nutta
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I love threads like this... I remember someone slagged me off for having for thinking I was great and found my gaming zen or some crap... but in all fairness I just enjoy playing video games no matter what system their on... whether the game is conisdered "casual" or "core"
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#28 aliasfreak
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[QUOTE="aliasfreak"]

At this point, there really isn't anything Nintendo can do to win back this gamer in this generation. They want to go after the casual market, so be it, it is obviously a smart financial move. Just stop acting like you are still catering to the core gamers. Their E3 was a casual fest, they should just admit it and move on instead of acting like the announcements of Animal Crossing and that the Mario and Zelda teams are working on games should appease core gamers.

I'm sad that they went this way, but they have. In conclusion, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Wii gone from SW, but it will never happen.

bf2nutta

Crap the Wii the offers me something the other consoles don't.... thats your opinion

Sure is. But the majority of what they offer is the casual games that the others don't. I don't see how that negates my post.

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#29 Hockey_Slayer
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Yes remove it please. Then we wouldn't have to listen to idiot fanboys spew there stupid s*** about it. No one cares what you guys think move along please.
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[QUOTE="obsolete2k1"][QUOTE="aliasfreak"]

At this point, there really isn't anything Nintendo can do to win back this gamer in this generation. They want to go after the casual market, so be it, it is obviously a smart financial move. Just stop acting like you are still catering to the core gamers. Their E3 was a casual fest, they should just admit it and move on instead of acting like the announcements of Animal Crossing and that the Mario and Zelda teams are working on games should appease core gamers.

I'm sad that they went this way, but they have. In conclusion, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Wii gone from SW, but it will never happen.

aliasfreak

those were the announcents that I was hoping for, especially Animal Crossing.... and I have a 360, PC and Wii.

So you are happy that you have no earthly idea when the next Mario or Zelda game are coming, only that at some point in the future they will be? No info on story, on gameplay, on anything? You sir are easy to please.

So are overall almost all gamers. PS3 owners were delight by two 30 sec teasers (MAG and GoW 3). It was just 30 sec teasers, with no history info, no gameplay, etc.

Some games hacve enough fame for more details to be needed. And Mario and Zelda are some of them.

Besides, if we "N-fans" are easy to please, that's our problem, not yours.

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[QUOTE="bf2nutta"][QUOTE="aliasfreak"]

At this point, there really isn't anything Nintendo can do to win back this gamer in this generation. They want to go after the casual market, so be it, it is obviously a smart financial move. Just stop acting like you are still catering to the core gamers. Their E3 was a casual fest, they should just admit it and move on instead of acting like the announcements of Animal Crossing and that the Mario and Zelda teams are working on games should appease core gamers.

I'm sad that they went this way, but they have. In conclusion, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Wii gone from SW, but it will never happen.

aliasfreak

Crap the Wii the offers me something the other consoles don't.... thats your opinion

Sure is. But the majority of what they offer is the casual games that the others don't. I don't see how that negates my post.

err it offers something for me a core gamer!?!?!?!?

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I love the smell of pwnage in the morning! TC gonna get pwned today!:D
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#33 aliasfreak
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]

I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers. People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW. It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point. They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

dotWithShoes

Huh....just huh....buying a ps2 is a much better deal than buying a wii imo.

Tbh....i agree with what you said, i don't like the games available on the wii, honestly, is there anyone above 14 who owns a wii?

of course alot of grampa and grandma have a wii.

I don't think old people are into video games:| are they?

Considering most of todays 'old people' were 'young people'(no not 12 yearolds like most 360 owners it seems, but late teens/early 20's) when the video game(arcade) industry first started, I'd say then YES a lot of 'old people' are into video games. Probably even more so than you'll ever be.

TC, you said the Wii isn't after the same people Sony, Microsoft and PC(PC is a company now?) are after ... Ask yourself this, you think Sony and Microsoft would give up their first born child to get the same crowd Nintendo has. They are companies that like money, and Nintendo found where the money is. You don't think PS and PS2 sold over 100 million and 130 million to nothing but gamers do ya? No dont think so. As for PC, no offense to PC gamers as it has some massively awesome games and you added them in here to make your arguement have some sort of merit, I guess. But the PC gaming market has some of the MOST casual style games ANYWHERE.

I think the issue is balance though, at least it is with me. I don't really PC game, but I'm pretty sure they have a large library of games with incredible depth, wether it be shooters, some WRPGs, driving, tactical, etc. Honestly, I would be happy if the 360 had a few more games like Mario or Zelda. I certainly enjoy those, but when a console offers so much that seems to lack any kind of depth of gameplay nor involving story, I get turned off. Maybe I'm just missing this abundance of deep games (I'm obviously talking of games other than the single games from their 3 big franchises).

Honestly, if the Wii and the 360/PS3 could have a love child, I would be a happy camper.

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I have a Wii and I will only say: It's not at all in the same league as the other two consoles though it okay for a secondary.

My guess where many sales may be coming from since many who's first purchase was a PC/360/PS3, we purchased a Wii for umm the more casual side of gaming like when non VG playing family & friends are visiting.

I do believe it's quite the farce to say Nintendo is "winning" this gen. just based off sales numbers.

Many, if not the vast majority of us who own both the Wii and a PC,360, or PS3 - if forced to choose only one of them to keep; It wouldn't be the Wii.

That does not sound like the "Winner" to me . :?

Of course IMHO.

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#35 LegendofNerd
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The Wii will never be removed from SW. Sorry.
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No, don't pull it from System Wars.
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#37 aliasfreak
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[QUOTE="aliasfreak"][QUOTE="bf2nutta"][QUOTE="aliasfreak"]

At this point, there really isn't anything Nintendo can do to win back this gamer in this generation. They want to go after the casual market, so be it, it is obviously a smart financial move. Just stop acting like you are still catering to the core gamers. Their E3 was a casual fest, they should just admit it and move on instead of acting like the announcements of Animal Crossing and that the Mario and Zelda teams are working on games should appease core gamers.

I'm sad that they went this way, but they have. In conclusion, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Wii gone from SW, but it will never happen.

bf2nutta

Crap the Wii the offers me something the other consoles don't.... thats your opinion

Sure is. But the majority of what they offer is the casual games that the others don't. I don't see how that negates my post.

err it offers something for me a core gamer!?!?!?!?

Argh, where did I say core gamers can't enjoy casual games? They are catering to the casuals, but that doesn't mean that there aren't games core gamers can enjoy. There is a distinction. For this gamer, those games that I could enjoy are few and far between, but that is my opinion, this is a forum full of opinions, so there we go.

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#38 akif22
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as a wii owner, i think the wii is a decent system

it has some great games like SMG (GOTY btw), SSBB, zelda TP and MP3, RE

has some decent 3rd party titles like No More Heroes too

plus, the backwards compatibility with GC and virtual console are great features too .. important for people that haven't played classic games of the past but want to

it's lineup isn't for everyone, and isn't as good as the 360's IMO, but it has quality of its own

i couldn't do with just a wii, but i couldn't do without it either

it's as much a part of system wars as any other system .. trying to have it removed is absolutely ridiculous and a desperate measure .. you're prob just jealous of its success

you might not like how it's attracting so many non-gamers, but nintendo wants these non-gamers to become more traditional gamers in the future and therefore help expand the market

we were all non-gamers at some point, remember

have some appreciation of what nintendo has done for gaming, and don't judge the current gen until it's over

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Huh....just huh....buying a ps2 is a much better deal than buying a wii imo.

Tbh....i somehow agree with what you said, i don't like the games available on the wii, honestly, is there anyone above 14 who owns a wii?

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#40 lancea34
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]

Huh....just huh....buying a ps2 is a much better deal than buying a wii imo.

Tbh....i somehow agree with what you said, i don't like the games available on the wii, honestly, is there anyone above 14 who owns a wii?

SpruceCaboose

23 years old and I own a Wii.

15 and I own a Wii.

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#41 LegendofNerd
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Huh....just huh....buying a ps2 is a much better deal than buying a wii imo.

Tbh....i somehow agree with what you said, i don't like the games available on the wii, honestly, is there anyone above 14 who owns a wii?

Al3x_n90

I'm 21 and I own a Wii...

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#42 Gamingcucumber
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According to me this is a bunch of BS. I'm sick of people telling me how much Nintendo sucks and how they mess up gaming. Ridiculous. Why should people look down on the Wii just because it's new? It's in fact so new that most developers still hasn't gotten their act together to create some games for the console. But the Wii is one of the reason the industrie has grown so much over the years and made Gaming more and more of a standard. Sure you could argue that it lacks a bit of power but that doesn't keep my sisters and myself from having tons of fun with Brawl and Galaxy.

I enjoy my 360 but I don't try to keep people from enjoying their Wii's. Sony and Microsoft deserve no loyal fans, so don't try to justify your ignorance.

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#43 BosoxJoe5
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]

I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers. People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW. It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point. They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

Al3x_n90

Huh....just huh....buying a ps2 is a much better deal than buying a wii imo.

Tbh....i agree with what you said, i don't like the games available on the wii, honestly, is there anyone above 14 who owns a wii?

Me. Stupid argument confirmed

Why did you buy the wii?for family fun? i don't hate the wii, i just don't like what it has to offer, depends on taste,

SMG, Zelda, Metriod, SPM, SSBB all great games. Plus there are some decent more violent games in NMH, and REUC. On top of RE4 plays the best with the Wii. Also the new COD is being built from the ground up for the Wii so it should be pretty cool.

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Huh....just huh....buying a ps2 is a much better deal than buying a wii imo.

Tbh....i somehow agree with what you said, i don't like the games available on the wii, honestly, is there anyone above 14 who owns a wii?

Al3x_n90

20 years old and I own a Wii.

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I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers. People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW. It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point. They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

DragonFlyJ

Before i start im going to say that im not a fanboy, i do have a wii and a ps3 and i have an xbox from last gen.

Ok wii is the only gaming console this gen. It only playes games. ps3 and xbox 360 are more of a a media players which you can play games on. So by your logic ps3 and 360 are the ones that should be removed from SW.

Most of my friends are casuals and most of them had a ps2 last gen. And pretty much all of them just played GOW 1 and 2, NFS and Midnight club games and GTA. Now im not calling a ps2 a casual system, but those 130 million systems were sold not just to core gamers.

And why does a wii need to be a hardcore system to stay in SW? It is a gaming system, there are games on it that you might not like but it doesnt mean that if you dont like them everybody should hate them.

So to me it looks like that you are like 10 or so and you are crying about your systems falling behind the wii sales. I believe that when system wars are done, in the end its all about which system sold the most and not about if its casual or core.

Oh and when you said that its not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it, well is it a game when you listening to music or watching a movie on it?

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Yes remove it please. Then we wouldn't have to listen to idiot fanboys spew there stupid s*** about it. No one cares what you guys think move along please.Hockey_Slayer

o___x; With your logic, we should just remove System Wars altogether.

Come on now, there are idiot fanboys for every gaming console and PC.

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#47 BuryMe
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No. I'm sick of people saying that the wii isn only selling to non gamers. If that was actually true, then it would be the non games that were selling. But that's not what's happening. It the good wii games that sell well, and that's because GAMERS aer buying them.

There's not 1 good reason to remove the wii from the war. It's just you fanboys upset that your console is losing to nintendo's

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#48 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]

I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys going on about how good the Wii is. Stop lying to yourself! You say it's good because it sells, but in reality it sells to those who are not gamers. People who look down on gaming, but plays the Wii as a "casual event". You Know? Grandpa is coming into town for a couple of weeks and want to spend time with his grandchildren. What better way to do that than playing Wii Golf because old man thinks he's Ben Hogan?

They want you to think that their 20+ million sales of the Wii all come from true gamers. What a bunch of bull. Don't you dare call the Wii the next PS2. That's a slap in the face to one of the greatest consoles of all-time. PS2 had games that gamers play...Games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, and GOW. It's not a game anymore when your mother is doing her daily palate exercises on it! Nintendo's E3 convention proves my point. They are not after the same people Sony, Microsoft, and PC are after. So why continue to play the charades? I say we should have a SW vote to remove Nintendo's Wii from System Wars. Clearly, Nintendo is not fighting the same battle.

Al3x_n90

Huh....just huh....buying a ps2 is a much better deal than buying a wii imo.

Tbh....i somehow agree with what you said, i don't like the games available on the wii, honestly, is there anyone above 14 who owns a wii?

I'm 18 and happier with the wii than i would be with the 360 or PS3
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#49 -Wheels-
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Actually, a lot of Wii gamers were gamers from last gen. It wasn't until last year that the non-gamers really started to buy in like rabid beasts. It's definitely Nintendo's best effort in recent years to change up the game industry though. This change was badly needed, no company could go on losing millions or billions every time they release a console. Nintendo found the solution, and though it might not be perfect yet, it is a step in the right direction. This is the "experimental gen" if you ask me. They'll get the balance right either by the end of it, or by next-gen.
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#50 ng1234
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I'm 36 and enjoy the Wii perfectly fine. Thread dismissed.