Quit with the 1 year headstart BS!!!

It's just how sore the sonyfanboys are. If you go back 3 years in System Wars, you could see numerous examples of how unbeliveably confident they were that 360 would be DEAD when PS3 launched. Yep, right on Day 1, PS3 would utterly anihhilate 360 wiping it off the face of the earth. Well that didn't happen, so they said "just wait", give it a few months to be in circulation and to get past the launch shortage. Didn't happen. They continued to voice they assurance that it was only a matter of time, and it came down to this and that games release (anything from Motorstorm, to Uncharted 1, to of course Killzone 2 and MGS4) which would finally deliver the killing blow to X360, and reclaiming its "rightful" position as number 1 on the console market.

Yeahhhh, so 3 years later, the "fanboy prophesies" never came to fruition, so it comes down to lame and pitiful excsuses, the One Year Headstart being among that.

[QUOTE="boredy-Mcbored"]

[QUOTE="mD-"]

Good argument by TC, but I have to say that the year start still DEFINITELY benefited Microsoft immensely. That's why it's so important that they got a head start. You would have to be ignorant not to realize this. The Xbox 360's first year line up was not that great, but it didn't matter since they were the only console out. Microsoft had higher total time windows to implement strategic price cuts (the thing that Sony is trying to do now).

mD-

But still the year start isn't the sole reason for the Xbox's success. It is an advantage that you can't deny but your shouldn't leave the first year out just to suit an argument to your advantage.

It's just how sore the sonyfanboys are. If you go back 3 years in System Wars, you could see numerous examples of how unbeliveably confident they were that 360 would be DEAD when PS3 launched. Yep, right on Day 1, PS3 would utterly anihhilate 360 wiping it off the face of the earth. Well that didn't happen, so they said "just wait", give it a few months to be in circulation and to get past the launch shortage. Didn't happen. They continued to voice they assurance that it was only a matter of time, and it came down to this and that games release (anything from Motorstorm, to Uncharted 1, to of course Killzone 2 and MGS4) which would finally deliver the killing blow to X360, and reclaiming its "rightful" position as number 1 on the console market.

Yeahhhh, so 3 years later, the "fanboy prophesies" never came to fruition, so it comes down to lame and pitiful excsuses, the One Year Headstart being among that.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

It's just how sore the sonyfanboys are. If you go back 3 years in System Wars, you could see numerous examples of how unbeliveably confident they were that 360 would be DEAD when PS3 launched. Yep, right on Day 1, PS3 would utterly anihhilate 360 wiping it off the face of the earth. Well that didn't happen, so they said "just wait", give it a few months to be in circulation and to get past the launch shortage. Didn't happen. They continued to voice they assurance that it was only a matter of time, and it came down to this and that games release (anything from Motorstorm, to Uncharted 1, to of course Killzone 2 and MGS4) which would finally deliver the killing blow to X360, and reclaiming its "rightful" position as number 1 on the console market.

Yeahhhh, so 3 years later, the "fanboy prophesies" never came to fruition, so it comes down to lame and pitiful excsuses, the One Year Headstart being among that.

stylesPS3

And your point being?

[QUOTE="stylesPS3"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

It's just how sore the sonyfanboys are. If you go back 3 years in System Wars, you could see numerous examples of how unbeliveably confident they were that 360 would be DEAD when PS3 launched. Yep, right on Day 1, PS3 would utterly anihhilate 360 wiping it off the face of the earth. Well that didn't happen, so they said "just wait", give it a few months to be in circulation and to get past the launch shortage. Didn't happen. They continued to voice they assurance that it was only a matter of time, and it came down to this and that games release (anything from Motorstorm, to Uncharted 1, to of course Killzone 2 and MGS4) which would finally deliver the killing blow to X360, and reclaiming its "rightful" position as number 1 on the console market.

Yeahhhh, so 3 years later, the "fanboy prophesies" never came to fruition, so it comes down to lame and pitiful excsuses, the One Year Headstart being among that.

And your point being?

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

It's just how sore the sonyfanboys are. If you go back 3 years in System Wars, you could see numerous examples of how unbeliveably confident they were that 360 would be DEAD when PS3 launched. Yep, right on Day 1, PS3 would utterly anihhilate 360 wiping it off the face of the earth. Well that didn't happen, so they said "just wait", give it a few months to be in circulation and to get past the launch shortage. Didn't happen. They continued to voice they assurance that it was only a matter of time, and it came down to this and that games release (anything from Motorstorm, to Uncharted 1, to of course Killzone 2 and MGS4) which would finally deliver the killing blow to X360, and reclaiming its "rightful" position as number 1 on the console market.

Yeahhhh, so 3 years later, the "fanboy prophesies" never came to fruition, so it comes down to lame and pitiful excsuses, the One Year Headstart being among that.

stylesPS3

And what's is not happening on the PS3: Halo:ODST, L4D2, Alan wake, SC:C,FM3, Halo:reach. With more to come so...

[QUOTE="stylesPS3"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

It's just how sore the sonyfanboys are. If you go back 3 years in System Wars, you could see numerous examples of how unbeliveably confident they were that 360 would be DEAD when PS3 launched. Yep, right on Day 1, PS3 would utterly anihhilate 360 wiping it off the face of the earth. Well that didn't happen, so they said "just wait", give it a few months to be in circulation and to get past the launch shortage. Didn't happen. They continued to voice they assurance that it was only a matter of time, and it came down to this and that games release (anything from Motorstorm, to Uncharted 1, to of course Killzone 2 and MGS4) which would finally deliver the killing blow to X360, and reclaiming its "rightful" position as number 1 on the console market.

Yeahhhh, so 3 years later, the "fanboy prophesies" never came to fruition, so it comes down to lame and pitiful excsuses, the One Year Headstart being among that.

And what's is not happening on the PS3: Halo:ODST, L4D2, Alan wake, SC:C,FM3, Halo:reach. With more to come so...

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="stylesPS3"] but heres whats not happening, on any other system that is. Final Fantasy Versus XIII God of War III Heavy Rain ModNation Racers M.A.G.Gran Turismo 5 Demons Souls Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time Uncharted 2 The Last Guardian Agent just to name a fewstylesPS3

And what's is not happening on the PS3: Halo:ODST, L4D2, Alan wake, SC:C,FM3, Halo:reach. With more to come so...

Isn't demon soles PC also? Anyway, it is PS3 vs. 360... I doubt every Ps3 owner has a gaming PC..

Edit: what are your specs?

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="stylesPS3"] but heres whats not happening, on any other system that is. Final Fantasy Versus XIII God of War III Heavy Rain ModNation Racers M.A.G.Gran Turismo 5 Demons Souls Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time Uncharted 2 The Last Guardian Agent just to name a fewstylesPS3

And your point being?

So you're taking the position that these games you listed will result in a sales boost so huge, that it will finally catapult the PS3 past the 360, overcoming that 1 year headstart?

Oh and I'm pretty sure 360 has games too. Games that PS3 won't get. Like Halo ODST, Forza 3, SC Conviction, Halo Reach, Alan Wake, L4D 2. And guess what? The games that are shared between 360 and PS3 are more an advantage for 360, when people can pick up that system to play them, and not pay as much for it.

So there, I included games in my argument, though what this topic is really about, is the 1 year headstart used as an excuse. What I illustrated in my original post, is that in PS3's entire first year, that had never been brought up as an issue. They were so overconfident that 360's early release wouldn't matter at all once PS3 took the market by storm, making people drop their 360's. And when that failed to happen, all of the sudden the 1 year head start became very relevant.

How convenient :P

[QUOTE="stylesPS3"][QUOTE="Camer999"]

And what's is not happening on the PS3: Halo:ODST, L4D2, Alan wake, SC:C,FM3, Halo:reach. With more to come so...

Isn't demon soles PC also? Anyway, it is PS3 vs. 360... I doubt every Ps3 owner has a gaming PC..

Edit: what are your specs?

[QUOTE="stylesPS3"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

And your point being?

So you're taking the position that these games you listed will result in a sales boost so huge, that it will finally catapult the PS3 past the 360, overcoming that 1 year headstart?

Oh and I'm pretty sure 360 has games too. Games that PS3 won't get. Like Halo ODST, Forza 3, SC Conviction, Halo Reach. And guess what? The games that are shared between 360 and PS3 are more an advantage for 360, when people can pick up that system to play them, and not pay as much for it.

So there, I included games in my argument, though what this topic is really about, is the 1 year headstart used as an excuse. What I illustrated in my original post, is that in PS3's entire first year, that had never been brought up as an issue. They were so overconfident that 360's early release wouldn't matter at all once PS3 took the market by storm, making people drop their 360's. And when that failed to happen, all of the sudden the 1 year head start became very relevant.

How convenient :P

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

So you're taking the position that these games you listed will result in a sales boost so huge, that it will finally catapult the PS3 past the 360, overcoming that 1 year headstart?

Oh and I'm pretty sure 360 has games too. Games that PS3 won't get. Like Halo ODST, Forza 3, SC Conviction, Halo Reach. And guess what? The games that are shared between 360 and PS3 are more an advantage for 360, when people can pick up that system to play them, and not pay as much for it.

So there, I included games in my argument, though what this topic is really about, is the 1 year headstart used as an excuse. What I illustrated in my original post, is that in PS3's entire first year, that had never been brought up as an issue. They were so overconfident that 360's early release wouldn't matter at all once PS3 took the market by storm, making people drop their 360's. And when that failed to happen, all of the sudden the 1 year head start became very relevant.

How convenient :P

stylesPS3

You obviously learned NOTHING from my first post, or gaming history in general. The very same was said of Motorstorm, Ratchet, LBP, Uncharted 1, Killzone and MGS4. That once those games came out it would be all over for 360 and PS3 would be in 1st place. Its a really old song here on SW. What you can't seem to realize here, or accept, is that 360 and PS3 has their share of unique games too. For your vision of the future to occur, 360 and Wii would have to STOP SELLING COMPLETELY. And that is just not going to happen.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Why should we quit with the headstart BS? With the majority of games being multiplat this gen (unlike those days when everything was basically exclusive) having a 1 year head start does actually make the difference.

mattbbpl

Yea I know it's a legit advantage and a very smart move by MS since they already planned on making alot of the popular IPs avaliable on their console as well. Which bring me back to my first point @ the op. Back then the majority of games were exclusive. Right now the same cannot be said.Which is why a 1 year headstart is such a huge advantage now.

[QUOTE="stylesPS3"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

So you're taking the position that these games you listed will result in a sales boost so huge, that it will finally catapult the PS3 past the 360, overcoming that 1 year headstart?

Oh and I'm pretty sure 360 has games too. Games that PS3 won't get. Like Halo ODST, Forza 3, SC Conviction, Halo Reach. And guess what? The games that are shared between 360 and PS3 are more an advantage for 360, when people can pick up that system to play them, and not pay as much for it.

So there, I included games in my argument, though what this topic is really about, is the 1 year headstart used as an excuse. What I illustrated in my original post, is that in PS3's entire first year, that had never been brought up as an issue. They were so overconfident that 360's early release wouldn't matter at all once PS3 took the market by storm, making people drop their 360's. And when that failed to happen, all of the sudden the 1 year head start became very relevant.

How convenient :P

You obviously learned NOTHING from my first post, or gaming history in general. The very same was said of Motorstorm, Ratchet, LBP, Uncharted 1, Killzone and MGS4. That once those games came out it would be all over for 360 and PS3 would be in 1st place. Its a really old song here on SW. What you can't seem to realize here, or accept, is that 360 and PS3 has their share of unique games too. For your vision of the future to occur, 360 and Wii would have to STOP SELLING COMPLETELY. And that is just not going to happen.

I haven't seen anyone bring that up in a while. But thanks for doing that for us!

damn this thread is nice ownage. Its good to see that intelligence hasnt been completely destroyed on System wars.

It seems that whenever exclusives or sales come up in a 360 and Ps3 argument, people want to automatically remove the Xbox 360's first year. It annoys me that people use the 1 year's start argument because it doesn't make sense. I mean if we look at video game history the person in the lead usually get beaten by something that comes out later. Let's see the trend from the beginning of consoles (no comparisons for the first 2 gens because of no records):

First gen winner: Magnavox Odyssey 1st console to come out and the winner with 330,000 units sold.

Second generation winner: The Atari 2600 was the 4th console to come out and winner with 30 mil units sold.

Third generation: First console was the Nes. 2 years later the Sgea Master System was released. Winner: Nes with 60 mil units sold.

Fourth gen: First console was The Turbo Grafix. 3 years later the SNES came out. Winner: SNES with 49 mil units sold.

Fifth gen: First console was the 3D0. 1 year later the PS1 came out. Winner: Ps1 with 102.49 mil units sold. N64 came out later

Sixth gen: First console was the Dreamcast. 2 years later the Ps2 came out. Winner: Ps2 with 140 mil units sold. Xbox came out later

Seventh gen as of March 31, 2009: First console was the Xbox 360. 1 year later the Wii came out. Winner: Wii with 50.39 mil units sold. (price difference 249< 549) casual gamer New gamers to HC and Sony PS1 owners who had the money NOW

As you can see there are only 2 gens where the winner was the first console out(1st and 3rd). Unlike the the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th gen the 360 isn't a complete faliure. So now can we quit with the 1 year head start BS?!?!?!

boredy-Mcbored

Fixed :D

Looking at Xbox360 first 2 years compared to PS3 first to years in sales its about the same. Look at Graphics PS3 is keeping up with Xbox360 which has been out for 3 going on 4, years while PS3 has been out for 2 years going on 3.

The Xbox360 is easier to develop for and while the PS3 is harder its graphics has been equal to and surpasses Xbox graphics in first party games. Does anyone believe aftter 2011 the Xbox360 will keep up with PS3 games??

[QUOTE="boredy-Mcbored"]

It seems that whenever exclusives or sales come up in a 360 and Ps3 argument, people want to automatically remove the Xbox 360's first year. It annoys me that people use the 1 year's start argument because it doesn't make sense. I mean if we look at video game history the person in the lead usually get beaten by something that comes out later. Let's see the trend from the beginning of consoles (no comparisons for the first 2 gens because of no records):

First gen winner: Magnavox Odyssey 1st console to come out and the winner with 330,000 units sold.

Second generation winner: The Atari 2600 was the 4th console to come out and winner with 30 mil units sold.

Third generation: First console was the Nes. 2 years later the Sgea Master System was released. Winner: Nes with 60 mil units sold.

Fourth gen: First console was The Turbo Grafix. 3 years later the SNES came out. Winner: SNES with 49 mil units sold.

Fifth gen: First console was the 3D0. 1 year later the PS1 came out. Winner: Ps1 with 102.49 mil units sold. N64 came out later

Sixth gen: First console was the Dreamcast. 2 years later the Ps2 came out. Winner: Ps2 with 140 mil units sold. Xbox came out later

Seventh genas of March 31, 2009: First console was the Xbox 360. 1 year later the Wii came out. Winner: Wii with 50.39 mil units sold. (price difference 249< 549) casual gamer New gamers to HC and Sony PS1 owners who had the money NOW

As you can see there are only 2 gens where the winner was the first console out(1st and 3rd). Unlike the the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th gen the 360 isn't a complete faliure. So now can we quit with the 1 year head start BS?!?!?!

Ravenlore_basic

Fixed :D

Looking at Xbox360 first 2 years compared to PS3 first to years in sales its about the same. Look at Graphics PS3 is keeping up with Xbox360 which has been out for 3 going on 4, years while PS3 has been out for 2 years going on 3.

The Xbox360 is easier to develop for and while the PS3 is harder its graphics has been equal to and surpasses Xbox graphics in first party games. Does anyone believe aftter 2011 the Xbox360 will keep up with PS3 games??

x360 have better GPU and can push more polygon's then the ps3 can theard/

Maybe you can give me the 360 results where these so called better "chips" give the 360 a better performing rate? So far MS hasn't fixed the problem they just give out that warrantee. "fixed" considered to MS. This relates to the Consoles sold overall.

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

Maybe you can give me the 360 results where these so called better "chips" give the 360 a better performing rate? So far MS hasn't fixed the problem they just give out that warrantee. "fixed" considered to MS. This relates to the Consoles sold overall.

SragentThom

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429

Maybe you can give me the 360 results where these so called better "chips" give the 360 a better performing rate? So far MS hasn't fixed the problem they just give out that warrantee. "fixed" considered to MS. This relates to the Consoles sold overall.

LOXO7

[QUOTE="SragentThom"]

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

LOXO7

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429

Sorry I though You where talking about the power of the GPU.You didn't even click the link did you.:roll:

CHECK

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="SragentThom"]

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429

SragentThom

COW user diening facts

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Dammit, I wanted to make this topic!!! But yeah, good points everyone.

Plus, you'd think giving another company your tech and a year to come out with something better would be a disadvantage. I mean a year is a long time in technology when it comes to cutting edge. If the playstation was what it was made out to be it would have ouotperformed the 360 easily from the start.

It seems that whenever exclusives or sales come up in a 360 and Ps3 argument, people want to automatically remove the Xbox 360's first year. It annoys me that people use the 1 year's start argument because it doesn't make sense. I mean if we look at video game history the person in the lead usually get beaten by something that comes out later.

Seventh gen as of March 31, 2009: First console was the Xbox 360. 1 year later the Wii came out. Winner: Wii with 50.39 mil units sold.

As you can see there are only 2 gens where the winner was the first console out(1st and 3rd). Unlike the the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th gen the 360 isn't a complete faliure. So now can we quit with the 1 year head start BS?!?!?!

boredy-Mcbored

It is wrong if people would take away the 360's head start to compare 360 vs PS3. But it is also wrong to call the one year start BS "as it didn't effect anything."

You don't make sense. If it IS a ***discussion between the 360 and the PS3*** then the Wii has nothing to do with THEM. And since the 360 is ahead of PS3 in sales, every advantage each system has counts. In which case the one year head start is everything, like Devs working on the 360 first and porting to PS3 second. Or Devs saying PS3 is too hard to dev for. Or the BIG excuse: Devs dont' want to dev on the PS3 because of lesser sales. All these things didn't take effect from the one year head start? :?

And I know this place doesn't like it when people make up "if senarios" on what would happen if the 360 didn't have a year advantage. Because it didn't happen. So really there is only one way to look at it. And to say it's "BS" is ridiculous. Because if you are able to acknowledge it as helping MS then BAM. Thats all it did.

What this thread is: Person vrs Person. "Waaaah, Waaaah :cry: PS3 fanboys say this, 360 fanboys say that"

[QUOTE="boredy-Mcbored"]

It seems that whenever exclusives or sales come up in a 360 and Ps3 argument, people want to automatically remove the Xbox 360's first year. It annoys me that people use the 1 year's start argument because it doesn't make sense. I mean if we look at video game history the person in the lead usually get beaten by something that comes out later. Let's see the trend from the beginning of consoles (no comparisons for the first 2 gens because of no records):

Gxgear

360 is still 2nd this gen.

Winning the console war doesn't mean that system automatically mean it has the most exclusives, so what are you really trying to say besides listing some random facts to prove an unrelated issue?

Sales: trailing far behind Wii.

Exclusives: not that far ahead of anyone, still no exclusive matching MGS4.Which is why people mention the 1 year head start because 360 has had a head start over competiting consoles.

Spin it whichever you like, but neither the PS3 nor the 360 are fighting to be first place this gen, so that fact alone pretty just made your theory fall flat on its butt.

Ignor-rant- Refusing to accept the truth besides clear evidence...your sig suits you.

I'm sorry but did you read this??? I'm not trying to defend the Xbox but I'm trying to stop stupidity. A 1 year start isn't a reason to get rid of the first games or sales the 360 made. I'm not a delusional fanboy and your post is making you seem like it.

According to this the 360 in the lead for exclusives (1 great game can be trampled by several good games).

When people mention this head start they act like no console (or even a PlayStation console) has done it. There's no excuse why the Ps1 and Ps2 could beat the leading machine butthe Xbox does it it's mutiny. The Wii beat both the console irregardless of the head start.

Um I myself said that the wii placed 1st even with the year start in the OP.

You were saying?

That "lead" gets smaller every day. :D This gen is not over yet darling. :)

[QUOTE="boredy-Mcbored"]

It seems that whenever exclusives or sales come up in a 360 and Ps3 argument, people want to automatically remove the Xbox 360's first year. It annoys me that people use the 1 year's start argument because it doesn't make sense. I mean if we look at video game history the person in the lead usually get beaten by something that comes out later.

Seventh gen as of March 31, 2009: First console was the Xbox 360. 1 year later the Wii came out. Winner: Wii with 50.39 mil units sold.

As you can see there are only 2 gens where the winner was the first console out(1st and 3rd). Unlike the the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th gen the 360 isn't a complete faliure. So now can we quit with the 1 year head start BS?!?!?!

LOXO7

It is wrong if people would take away the 360's head start to compare 360 vs PS3. But it is also wrong to call the one year start BS "as it didn't effect anything."

You don't make sense. If it IS a ***discussion between the 360 and the PS3*** then the Wii has nothing to do with THEM. And since the 360 is ahead of PS3 in sales, every advantage each system has counts. In which case the one year head start is everything, like Devs working on the 360 first and porting to PS3 second. Or Devs saying PS3 is too hard to dev for. Or the BIG excuse: Devs dont' want to dev on the PS3 because of lesser sales. All these things didn't take effect from the one year head start? :?

And I know this place doesn't like it when people make up "if senarios" on what would happen if the 360 didn't have a year advantage. Because it didn't happen. So really there is only one way to look at it. And to say it's "BS" is ridiculous. Because if you are able to acknowledge it as helping MS then BAM. Thats all it did.

What this thread is: Person vrs Person. "Waaaah, Waaaah :cry: PS3 fanboys say this, 360 fanboys say that"

You don't get it. What I'm saying is that complaining about a year start is just dumb. Other consoles (including PS brand consoles) have been a year or 2 behind, play catch up and still end up being a winner. If others have done it then why are we making up the excuse in the first place.

The OP was stating the reasoning of the thread. The head start BS just happens to come up in a Ps3 vs 360 thread but people seem to forget that the wii came out a year late and is winning.

I want to stop this madness. Sorry if it gets you mad.

That "lead" gets smaller every day. :D This gen is not over yet darling. :)

Shhadow_Viper

Thanks for saying that. I also want to add that the Gen isn't over and that the tables could turn. People forget that.

[QUOTE="Shhadow_Viper"]

That "lead" gets smaller every day. :D This gen is not over yet darling. :)

boredy-Mcbored

Thanks for saying that. I also want to add that the Gen isn't over and that the tables could turn. People forget that.

[QUOTE="boredy-Mcbored"]

It seems that whenever exclusives or sales come up in a 360 and Ps3 argument, people want to automatically remove the Xbox 360's first year. It annoys me that people use the 1 year's start argument because it doesn't make sense. I mean if we look at video game history the person in the lead usually get beaten by something that comes out later. Let's see the trend from the beginning of consoles (no comparisons for the first 2 gens because of no records):

First gen winner: Magnavox Odyssey 1st console to come out and the winner with 330,000 units sold.

Second generation winner: The Atari 2600 was the 4th console to come out and winner with 30 mil units sold.

Third generation: First console was the Nes. 2 years later the Sgea Master System was released. Winner: Nes with 60 mil units sold.

Fourth gen: First console was The Turbo Grafix. 3 years later the SNES came out. Winner: SNES with 49 mil units sold.

Fifth gen: First console was the 3D0. 1 year later the PS1 came out. Winner: Ps1 with 102.49 mil units sold.

Sixth gen: First console was the Dreamcast. 2 years later the Ps2 came out. Winner: Ps2 with 140 mil units sold.

Seventh gen as of March 31, 2009: First console was the Xbox 360. 1 year later the Wii came out. Winner: Wii with 50.39 mil units sold.

As you can see there are only 2 gens where the winner was the first console out(1st and 3rd). Unlike the the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th gen the 360 isn't a complete faliure. So now can we quit with the 1 year head start BS?!?!?!

Ravenlore_basic

Fixed :D

Looking at Xbox360 first 2 years compared to PS3 first to years in sales its about the same. Look at Graphics PS3 is keeping up with Xbox360 which has been out for 3 going on 4, years while PS3 has been out for 2 years going on 3.

The Xbox360 is easier to develop for and while the PS3 is harder its graphics has been equal to and surpasses Xbox graphics in first party games. Does anyone believe aftter 2011 the Xbox360 will keep up with PS3 games??

Sorry but Un'Fixed. I left them other consoles out because them being there is pointless. Sony was ahead of other consoles but their exsistance means nothing in the thread. And also the price really has nothing to do with the thread.

Tip: Play games for fun. Don't care about who is "Winning" this generation.

Tip: Play games for fun. Don't care about who is "Winning" this generation.

awssk8er716

It seems that whenever exclusives or sales come up in a 360 and Ps3 argument, people want to automatically remove the Xbox 360's first year. It annoys me that people use the 1 year's start argument because it doesn't make sense. I mean if we look at video game history the person in the lead usually get beaten by something that comes out later. Let's see the trend from the beginning of consoles (no comparisons for the first 2 gens because of no records):

First gen winner: Magnavox Odyssey 1st console to come out and the winner with 330,000 units sold.

Second generation winner: The Atari 2600 was the 4th console to come out and winner with 30 mil units sold.

Third generation: First console was the Nes. 2 years later the Sgea Master System was released. Winner: Nes with 60 mil units sold.

Fourth gen: First console was The Turbo Grafix. 3 years later the SNES came out. Winner: SNES with 49 mil units sold.

Fifth gen: First console was the 3D0. 1 year later the PS1 came out. Winner: Ps1 with 102.49 mil units sold.

Sixth gen: First console was the Dreamcast. 2 years later the Ps2 came out. Winner: Ps2 with 140 mil units sold.

Seventh gen as of March 31, 2009: First console was the Xbox 360. 1 year later the Wii came out. Winner: Wii with 50.39 mil units sold.

As you can see there are only 2 gens where the winner was the first console out(1st and 3rd). Unlike the the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th gen the 360 isn't a complete faliure. So now can we quit with the 1 year head start BS?!?!?!

EDIT: It is an advantage but next time please don't dismiss the first year is all I'm saying. :cry: And also people the Gen isn't over. Maybe the Ps3 or 360 can make a comeback. ;)

boredy-Mcbored