"All our technical people like the PS4 specs a lot more than the leaked xbo

Beyond two souls just got 94% more creepy

[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]Isnt the next Xbox gonna be sold like cable box? LOL PS4 is where the games are at. none of this Kinect Bullsh!t.StrongDeadlift

Right :roll: 

Sony is NOT, NEVER was, NEVER did caught up with the whole Motion Sensing garbage, like MS did. Hence why the Move never was solely focused on. Their focus has always been the core gaming market, always has always been, simply because that's where Sony excels at. Sony acknowledges this which is why they always have a continuing relationship with developers.

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="THE_Rob_Himself"]

bold is where I stopped reading 

StrongDeadlift

Funny how they showed nothing but core games as well.

So the 20 minutes Media Molecule spent showing you how to sculpt clay penises, as well as

.........THIS:

is a core game now? :lol:

Cows gonna cow :lol: Mooooooooo :cool:

:lol:

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

Right :roll:

SUD123456

The only thing they haven't said is whether the camera is being built in or will be a seperate accessory. Without the camera it is going to be motion sensing light. With the camera it is going to be move 2.0. And there will be the option of a seperate move controller.

I actually like this business strategy better than MS because we presumably wom't have to pay the cost of the camera in every unit. On the otherhand a built in kinect is going to be cheaper than buying a seperate move camera, so a lot may still depend on pricing.

But lets not kid ourselves that one is uber core and the other is uber casual. Sony is building some of the enabling technology into every system, they just have not gone whole hog and bundled the camera (that we know of yet).

1: he proves he doesn't know nothing about next xbox

2: he says rumors specs that could be wrong or could be right and IF thats the case i hope MS goes back and reconsider that

3: Tc claims they went choose to go console excluive on ps4 because of rumors... SAD

k2theswiss

The PS4 showed kinect-like feature on it at the conference for crying out loud.. sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]Isnt the next Xbox gonna be sold like cable box? LOL PS4 is where the games are at. none of this Kinect Bullsh!t.M8ingSeezun

Right :roll: 

Sony is NOT, NEVER was, NEVER did caught up with the whole Motion Sensing garbage, like MS did. Hence why the Move never was solely focused on. Their focus has always been the core gaming market, always has always been, simply because that's where Sony excels at. Sony acknowledges this which is why they always have a continuing relationship with developers.

:roll: Please.  Go watch the E3 press conference where they revealed the Move.  They spent just as much time talking about it as Mircorosft did in 2009-2010.  The only difference was, one of them was a successful commercial monster that outsold the Ipad launch, while the other one was a failure.  That has more to do with the fact that like  almost every endeavor Sony has attempted this generation they dont support it and send it out to die.   It was a failed project just like the PSPGo, the Xperia Play, etc....

Thats the only reason Sony "doesnt focus on it" now ;)

Do you have a quota of how frequently to make an idiot out of yourself on a daily basis?  :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiNGZMx2vhY&feature=player_detailpage#t=1047s

"And this new controller was designed in tandem with a second peripheral, a stereo camera that can sense the depth of the area in front of it, and can track the 3d position of the controller via its 'light bar'"

idiot

:roll:

 

StrongDeadlift

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="THE_Rob_Himself"]

bold is where I stopped reading 

StrongDeadlift

Funny how they showed nothing but core games as well.

So the 20 minutes Media Molecule spent showing you how to sculpt clay penises, as well as

.........THIS:

is a core game now? :lol:

Cows gonna cow :lol: Mooooooooo :cool:

:lol:

RIP wiiU and RIP kinectbox 2.0

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

telly is full of jelly.

Tessellation

You're beyond emotionally attached to a plastic object breh.

[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

telly is full of jelly.

ReadingRainbow4

You're beyond emotionally attached to a plastic object breh.

You're beyond emotionally attached to a plastic object breh.

ReadingRainbow4

lol, the PS4 is going to be all about social media ,and streaming.AlexKidd5000

Did anybody else catch this?
Its from The Witness blog, it explains how the game ended up on PS4.

 

"I dont have good communication with anyone at Microsoft right now, but all our technical people like the PS4 specs a lot more than the leaked Durango specs, and we like the positioning of the PS4 (its about games) more than what we perceive Microsofts positioning is going to be."

AdamPA1006

Lems, be sad.

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]all our technical people like the PS4 specs a lot more than the leaked Durango specsCherokee_Jack

Meaning they know as much as we do.

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]No emotionally attached to a plastic object like you:cool: cry me some moreTessellation

You're beyond emotionally attached to a plastic object breh.

No just laughter.

[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]Isnt the next Xbox gonna be sold like cable box? LOL PS4 is where the games are at. none of this Kinect Bullsh!t.StrongDeadlift

Right :roll: 

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]Isnt the next Xbox gonna be sold like cable box? LOL PS4 is where the games are at. none of this Kinect Bullsh!t.NineTailedGoku

Right :roll:

YET Sony said their focus is CORE gamers. Funny how that works.

or Just MS is better than them at it and they gave up? thats why 720 is in strong position next gen, casuals spend money.

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Did anybody else catch this?
Its from The Witness blog, it explains how the game ended up on PS4.

 

"I dont have good communication with anyone at Microsoft right now, but all our technical people like the PS4 specs a lot more than the leaked Durango specs, and we like the positioning of the PS4 (its about games) more than what we perceive Microsofts positioning is going to be."

Innovazero2000

They are speculating just like anybody else, they don't know any more then the lot at the moment. What MS does as far as positioning goes will greatly influence my decision. I do like what the PS4 is offering though, curious to see the pricing.

[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]Isnt the next Xbox gonna be sold like cable box? LOL PS4 is where the games are at. none of this Kinect Bullsh!t.StrongDeadlift

Right :roll: 

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]Isnt the next Xbox gonna be sold like cable box? LOL PS4 is where the games are at. none of this Kinect Bullsh!t.stayhigh1

Right :roll:  

You do know that their not going to pack it with the PS4.. Do you have a link to this? Why else would they build the technology into their controller and not ship the console with the camera? :lol:

If you look at the PS3 they are killing the 360 with their first party games

"Killing" in what way?  Sales?  :lol:

Games?  Halo 4 and Forza came out last year.  The ONLY PS3 exclusive that was in the top 60 PS3 games on Metacritic last year was Journey.  In fact, Journey was the only AA+ Sony had last year.  

..NONE of it was a eye toy game

:roll: Right

unlike MIcrsoft who makes game for Kinect and force it into people throat.

You're forced to buy Kinect?  News to me, Ive never used the device in my life ;)

I feel bad for Lemming they have nothing to fight back with that are facts..

The fact that you dont know what the word "fact" means makes me worry for our public school system :? 

[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Did anybody else catch this?
Its from The Witness blog, it explains how the game ended up on PS4.

"I dont have good communication with anyone at Microsoft right now, but all our technical people like the PS4 specs a lot more than the leaked Durango specs, and we like the positioning of the PS4 (its about games) more than what we perceive Microsofts positioning is going to be."

Douevenlift_bro

They are speculating just like anybody else, they don't know any more then the lot at the moment. What MS does as far as positioning goes will greatly influence my decision. I do like what the PS4 is offering though, curious to see the pricing.

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]Isnt the next Xbox gonna be sold like cable box? LOL PS4 is where the games are at. none of this Kinect Bullsh!t.NineTailedGoku

Right :roll: 

YET Sony said their focus is CORE gamers. Funny how that works.

Just because they said it doesn't mean they will follow what they said.  It's all marketing and they are trying to get people on board which is working.  

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"] Except rumblings out developers is that while the PS4 is more powerful, the gap is marginal and similar to the ps3 vs 360. Its brute strength vs raw efficiency.

They are speculating just like anybody else, they don't know any more then the lot at the moment. What MS does as far as positioning goes will greatly influence my decision. I do like what the PS4 is offering though, curious to see the pricing.

Innovazero2000

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] This. These idiots dont even realize that both systems are based off of the same technology. Both systems are using 8 AMD Jaguar cores, and GCN based GPUs based on 7970m. tormentos

You do not know what the Xbox is based on, outside of it being based on the same architecture in the PS4. AMD Jaguar and GNC (most likely both willl be GNC2)

The PS3 gpu IS based on a 7970m with two fewer CUs.  The 7970m uses 20. 

One of the PS4 rumors said that they removed 2 CUs from it.  

And again you are being rediculous with the GDDR5 nonsense.  GDDR5 is based on DDR3.  It is modified DDR3 for higher bandwidth with a tradeoff of latency, and it is compatable with DDR3.  For this reason, it is the easiest component in the system for Microsoft to upgrade.  There is no fundamental change that needs to take place in the way games are programmed for them to switch it. It is not like the PS3's XDR and GDDR2 memory which require two different programming languages and are not compatable with eachother.  You are a fool if you believe Mircorosft is not going to have it in their platform.  

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] This. These idiots dont even realize that both systems are based off of the same technology. Both systems are using 8 AMD Jaguar cores, and GCN based GPUs based on 7970m. StrongDeadlift

You do not know what the Xbox is based on, outside of it being based on the same architecture in the PS4. AMD Jaguar and GNC (most likely both willl be GNC2)

The PS3 gpu IS based on a 7970m with two fewer CUs.  The 7970m uses 20. 

One of the PS4 rumors said that they removed 2 CUs from it.  

And again you are being rediculous with the GDDR5 nonsense.  GDDR5 is based on DDR3.  It is modified DDR3 for higher bandwidth with a tradeoff of latency, and it is compatable with DDR3.  For this reason, it is the easiest component in the system for Microsoft to upgrade.  There is no fundamental change that needs to take place in the way games are programmed for them to switch it. It is not like the PS3's XDR and GDDR2 memory which require two different programming languages and are not compatable with eachother.  You are a fool if you believe Mircorosft is not going to have it in their platform.  

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

 

 

Right :roll: 

 

sirk1264

YET Sony said their focus is CORE gamers. Funny how that works.

Just because they said it doesn't mean they will follow what they said.  It's all marketing and they are trying to get people on board which is working.  

You do not know what the Xbox is based on, outside of it being based on the same architecture in the PS4. AMD Jaguar and GNC (most likely both willl be GNC2)

The PS3 gpu IS based on a 7970m with two fewer CUs.  The 7970m uses 20. 

One of the PS4 rumors said that they removed 2 CUs from it.  

And again you are being rediculous with the GDDR5 nonsense.  GDDR5 is based on DDR3.  It is modified DDR3 for higher bandwidth with a tradeoff of latency, and it is compatable with DDR3.  For this reason, it is the easiest component in the system for Microsoft to upgrade.  There is no fundamental change that needs to take place in the way games are programmed for them to switch it. It is not like the PS3's XDR and GDDR2 memory which require two different programming languages and are not compatable with eachother.  You are a fool if you believe Mircorosft is not going to have it in their platform.  

StrongDeadlift

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]You do not know what the Xbox is based on, outside of it being based on the same architecture in the PS4. AMD Jaguar and GNC (most likely both willl be GNC2)

The PS3 gpu IS based on a 7970m with two fewer CUs.  The 7970m uses 20. 

One of the PS4 rumors said that they removed 2 CUs from it.  

And again you are being rediculous with the GDDR5 nonsense.  GDDR5 is based on DDR3.  It is modified DDR3 for higher bandwidth with a tradeoff of latency, and it is compatable with DDR3.  For this reason, it is the easiest component in the system for Microsoft to upgrade.  There is no fundamental change that needs to take place in the way games are programmed for them to switch it. It is not like the PS3's XDR and GDDR2 memory which require two different programming languages and are not compatable with eachother.  You are a fool if you believe Mircorosft is not going to have it in their platform.  

tormentos

What if the 720 is weaker than the PS4? And what if its pike PS2 to XBOX? Would cow be hypocritcal and bash the 720 like its the weakest thing since pong?Kaszilla

So what this means...

-- Leaked specs are correct.

 or

-- Jonathan Blow's game has no plans to be heading to the NextBox

Marketing spin blah blah blah...but as I've said in several threads tonight...the biggest thing I liked about the Sony presser was that it was mostly about the games/game developers and social stuff directly related to games. Even at E3 2012, I thought Sony's presser was by far the most game centric, eventhough none of them were great. It seems to me that they figured out the key to sucess for PS4 is focusing on games and gamers.

MS is pushing this whole entertainment box/casual aspect and unless we see a complete 180 marketing wise, I'm sure the same will hold true for Durango.

[QUOTE="Tessellation"] its probably stripped down version for the console,remember that the xbox 360 OS is based on windows 2000 which used 64MB and If durango uses a stripped down version probably around 1GB(windows 8 uses 2GB for x64) + kinnect = 2GB and there isn't latest specs they are still the same ones from 2012, its just that VG Leaks divided them in different articles..tormentos

I would assume they would use a custom Windows 8 RT kernal, very low foot print at 512mb.

I know the Ps4 is more powerful, but I think the goal like the 360 was to be very competitive in power with a unique archtecture, and come in at a lower price. Kinect being included has to be expensive though, then again so is the DDR5 in the ps4.

Well MS is focusing on kinect(lol) it's to be expected. :(Heil68