"Command & Conquer 4 will crush Starcraft 2"

Wasn't C&C2: Tiberian Sun supposed to be a Starcraft 1 Killer?

Westwood gave us the impression, "This is it RTS fans!! You wanna play the baddest RTS ever?!?!! Look no further then!!" But of course, they failed miserably.

Now, they are doing exactly the same thing with Command & Conquer 4. Why should we trust them that it's gonna crush Starcraft 2 this time?

Oh, I know, because the GREAT former Gamespotter, Greg Kasavin jumped on their board and it's gonna kick you in the balls this time.

Is TC trying to instigate?

Who are you quoting?dgsag

Is TC trying to instigate?

Blue-Sky

Wasn't C&C2: Tiberian Sun supposed to be a Starcraft 1 Killer?

Westwood gave us the impression, "This is it RTS fans!! You wanna play the baddest RTS ever?!?!! Look no further then!!" But of course, they failed miserably.

Now, they are doing exactly the same thing with Command & Conquer 4. Why should we trust them that it's gonna crush Starcraft 2 this time?

Oh, I know, because the GREAT former Gamespotter, Greg Kasavin jumped on their board and it's gonna kick you in the balls this time.

Guyper

It definitely won't crush SC2. But it will crush every console rts.

Ohhh, nostalgia....who else recalls the C&C vs. SC feuds of the day?

Ohhh, nostalgia....who else recalls the C&C vs. SC feuds of the day?

Verge_6

Ohhh, nostalgia....who else recalls the C&C vs. SC feuds of the day?

Ohhh, nostalgia....who else recalls the C&C vs. SC feuds of the day?

[QUOTE="Nemme"][QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]C&C4 was rushed out before Starcraft 2 obliterates it. C&C is too unbalanced.Lethalhazard

Kind of like starcraft?

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"] they shall come again!shadow_hosi

Who are you quoting? I don't see that on EA's site, or even on the forums. :|

I personally enjoy the originality of the CnC universe more, as ripping off Warhammer at every turn like Blizzard does gets old pretty fast. The gameplay is still following the Dune 2 formula, but that's the beauty of it. EA destroyed balance with CnC3 and TS was one of the most balanced RTS' to ever be released along with Starcraft. With larger battles in CnC4, I think I'll enjoy it much more (not to mention LAN support :P).

Who are you quoting? I don't see that on EA's site, or even on the forums. :|

I personally enjoy the originality of the CnC universe more, as ripping off Warhammer at every turn like Blizzard does gets old pretty fast. The gameplay is still following the Dune 2 formula, but that's the beauty of it. EA destroyed balance with CnC3 and TS was one of the most balanced RTS' to ever be released along with Starcraft. With larger battles in CnC4, I think I'll enjoy it much more (not to mention LAN support :P).

Saturos3091

The C&Cs made by EA were crap, how is this gonna be any better.

The C&Cs made by EA were crap, how is this gonna be any better.

PSdual_wielder

It definitely won't crush SC2. But it will crush every console rts.

anshul89

That's kinda like saying, "He definitely won't crush Michael Phelps. But he will crush every Special Olympian."

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The C&Cs made by EA were crap, how is this gonna be any better.

SparkyProtocol

It was incredibly unbalanced. I played the online for about a month, and I was so turned off I never played it again.

Once someone goes GDI, any other race playing against it immediately their goal at hand is to delay them from upgrading into mammoth tanks. Because once they do, they'll definitely go for the railgun upgrade :roll: and thats pretty much endgame. For the NOD, all you have to do is spam scorpian tanks, just keep doing it and the opponent will break due its cheapness.

And then the game continued to be boring, until the devs of the game all of a sudden released a stupid patch that redid THE ENTIRE BALANCE of the game for no reason at all, isn't that smart?

It was incredibly unbalanced. I played the online for about a month, and I was so turned off I never played it again.

Yes it is unbalanced. However...

Once someone goes GDI, any other race playing against it immediately their goal at hand is to delay them from upgrading into mammoth tanks. Because once they do, they'll definitely go for the railgun upgrade :roll: and thats pretty much endgame. For the NOD, all you have to do is spam scorpian tanks, just keep doing it and the opponent will break due its cheapness.

This shows you haven't played the game very much. That was the "apparent" case in patch 1.04 of vanilla CnC3, although upper levels of play didn't adopt those tactics.

Scrin can utterly dominate GDI in lategame. Not to mention keep pushing with weak tier 1 units (Disintegrator, Seeker, Gun Walker) thanks to their versatility. Nod players use harassment to their advantage, as it was what the entire faction was built around and now does for the most part. Bike/pitbull rushing is now the prominent tactic thanks to the cost of harvesters and refineries.

And then the game continued to be boring, until the devs of the game all of a sudden released a stupid patch that redid THE ENTIRE BALANCE of the game for no reason at all, isn't that smart?

I agree with this. 1.05, then 1.09 almost made it a balanced game...then CnC:KW patch 1.01 completely destroyed any sense of balance whatsoever. The game got boring after 1.05 and until 1.09 it was dull to even think about playing.

PSdual_wielder

EA has said that for the next game they will get a balance team together. They didn't even playtest CnC3 it seems. After putting 200+ hours into vanilla CnC3 (on 360 of all platforms; which EA wouldn't patch due to MS refusing to let them) and 40 hours into the expansion, as well as following all of the patches and developments on their site, I have to say the direction they're going in with the sequel isn't a bad one. By the looks of it, it will deviate from the traditional "scout, fast boom, rush" tactics of CnC. It could lead to one of the best RTS to be released this generation if executed properly.

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It definitely won't crush SC2. But it will crush every console rts.

MischiefmAker

That's kinda like saying, "He definitely won't crush Michael Phelps. But he will crush every Special Olympian."

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[QUOTE="anshul89"]

It definitely won't crush SC2. But it will crush every console rts.

anshul89

That's kinda like saying, "He definitely won't crush Michael Phelps. But he will crush every Special Olympian."

Fair enough. Fair enough. :D

I doubt CC 4 tops Starcraft.. the original was sooo good and Its has been in the works for a rather long time.. Besides that there's no way I would prefer CC to starcraft, the history and universe in general are so great for me...

C&C4 will crush SC2 by adding LAN support! :o

C&C4 will crush SC2 by adding LAN support! :o

ChubbyGuy40

Not even close. SC2 will be a lot better than C&C4 just like Starcraft1 was better than any C&C imo

What I bet the TC doesnt realize is that the lead designer of Westwood and of tiberium sun is no longer working on the C&C franchise, but is now the lead designer of Starcraft 2.

My gut instinct tells me Starcraft2 will be much better.