"Graphics doesn't matter" [56k]

Ive been playing RE4 a lot lately and i have come to realise that if RE5 looked like RE4 i would care the slightest. Does COD4 or Halo 3 look that much better than Re4. I mean a part from the texture being better there isn't much else, think about it. This is random but is the darkness good because it looks really cool.

halo_killer345

Texture is basically the bulk of graphical advancements. The major difference between current graphics and those 5 years ago are textures. How bout i say apart from the wiimote there isn't much else about the wii compared to the gamecube?

This is quite a ridiculas thread, what are you the games police, telling people what they should and should not play.

Yes graphics matter, but the Wii's graphics seem to suffice for Nintendo games.

Attacking DS games now? Phantom Hour Glass shouldn't have got good score because of the graphics? ...really? :?

You have reviewers calling SMG a truest definition of a video game, but because the Wii is weak we should abandon it for something on more powerful hardware.

You sir are the worst kind of fanboy. A true gamer enjoys games because they are good and can even appreciate older games as well.

But someone who discounts any game with older or inferior graphics to the latest hardware, may consider him/herself hardcore but they are not, they are merely foolish in the truest sense.

A real hardcore gamer will play ALL games old or new on more systems then you could name. Good graphics or bad.

I'm begining think the people continuously digging up the BS "graphics don't matter?" arguements are no different from the loyal Bush supprting dead-enders who still think "Why do you hate America/the troops" is a logical response.

Graphics DO matter....but only after you take about a dozen other things into consideration. Graphics only matters for marketing. It has little to nothing to do with how a game plays or what makes it a great and enjoyable experience. If you think graphics are the only thing that matters (or the primary thing) then not only do I call you NOT a gamer (merely a poser or a bandwagon jumper) but you are just a mindless consumer who is the victim of advertising.

[QUOTE="wiretoss"]Oh and quit spreading the rumor that 4D is possible.
Or continue and keep the joke continuing. :lol:R-Dot-Yung

4D is time, many games use it

Ken Kutaragi was an idiot, dont look like one yourself for claiming it isnt possible when plenty of game play with 4D

I just took the Mrs. for an ultrasound. Printed clearly on the photos they gave us is the term "4D imaging". Why? Because it is a real-time image.

You are completely correct. 4D implies time and Kutaragi was making the claim that the PS3's power supposedly allows for realtime elements to be used in games, or games where time is an actual factor. I will remind people that Fable was supposed to use this concept with trees that you could carve your name into and then come back years later (in gametime) and still see the carvings but the tree had grown and changed. Of course, they couldn't actually pull that off last gen.

But we end up with fanboys who act like "morans" and act like Kutaragi saying 4d is the same thing as him saying the PS3 is a time machine.

[QUOTE="halo_killer345"]

Ive been playing RE4 a lot lately and i have come to realise that if RE5 looked like RE4 i would care the slightest. Does COD4 or Halo 3 look that much better than Re4. I mean a part from the texture being better there isn't much else, think about it. This is random but is the darkness good because it looks really cool.

jhcho2

Texture is basically the bulk of graphical advancements. The major difference between current graphics and those 5 years ago are textures. How bout i say apart from the wiimote there isn't much else about the wii compared to the gamecube?

Which is a huge thing.. That being said its wierd really.. If graphics are such a big deal why is CoD4 never being mentioned? IN some areas of that game it look down right awful.

Did you just diss Super Mario Bros. 3? The greatest platformer of all time? Ohhhhh man....Shadow_op

:) Personally I disagree, I think Super Mario World is the most perfect 2D platformer ever, it wasn't as hard, but the level design (genious), graphics and music were fantastic. Even to this day I still enjoy it a lot, and the memorys of playing it when I was young.

But im not sure where he was going with the SM3 graphics either.

[QUOTE="Shadow_op"]Did you just diss Super Mario Bros. 3? The greatest platformer of all time? Ohhhhh man....Darth_DuMas

:) Personally I disagree, I think super Mario World is the most perfect 2D platformer ever, it wasn't as hard, but the level design (genious), graphics and music were fantastic. Even to this day I still enjoy it a lot, and the memorys of playing it when I was young.

But im not sure where he was going with the SM3 graphics either.

Yeah I don't understand it either.. Why would he use that as a example? Thats like going after the Simpsons saying it has bad graphics for a show.. Thats the artistic art style it chose and it does it well.. I don't need to have every show to be cutting edge to enjoy something.. Same goes with SMB3 they do not need to change the graphics at all they are fine the way they are and they still look great for what the game is MENT to be.

[QUOTE="Darth_DuMas"]

[QUOTE="Shadow_op"]Did you just diss Super Mario Bros. 3? The greatest platformer of all time? Ohhhhh man....sSubZerOo

:) Personally I disagree, I think super Mario World is the most perfect 2D platformer ever, it wasn't as hard, but the level design (genious), graphics and music were fantastic. Even to this day I still enjoy it a lot, and the memorys of playing it when I was young.

But im not sure where he was going with the SM3 graphics either.

Yeah I don't understand it either.. Why would he use that as a example? Thats like going after the Simpsons saying it has bad graphics for a show.. Thats the artistic art style it chose and it does it well.. I don't need to have every show to be cutting edge to enjoy something.. Same goes with SMB3 they do not need to change the graphics at all they are fine the way they are and they still look great for what the game is MENT to be.

I have to admit that graphics have affected me as well, I couldn't enjoy the Wind Waker because of the cell shaded art style. I was used to the amazing atmosphere that the N64 Zelda games art style had, so the Wind Waker didn't feel right to me. Thats the only time its bothered me, I love the Paper Mario games.

Talking about older games, I hope Super Mario RPG, and Pilot Wings 64 come to the VC. Imagine Pilot Wings 64 with the GC anologue stick. That would be amazing as it would be smoother.

Whoever says graphics don't matter is an idiot, not a sheep.Xolver

I think graphic direction is a better explaination of it... Take a look at SMG its definitely not technology the best looking game.. But for what it is in my eyes it looks bloody brilliant.. Half-Life 2 in my eyes still looks amazing as well, and thats off a engine thats aging.. Same goes for FEAR and numerous other games..

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Darth_DuMas"]

[QUOTE="Shadow_op"]Did you just diss Super Mario Bros. 3? The greatest platformer of all time? Ohhhhh man....Darth_DuMas

:) Personally I disagree, I think super Mario World is the most perfect 2D platformer ever, it wasn't as hard, but the level design (genious), graphics and music were fantastic. Even to this day I still enjoy it a lot, and the memorys of playing it when I was young.

But im not sure where he was going with the SM3 graphics either.

Yeah I don't understand it either.. Why would he use that as a example? Thats like going after the Simpsons saying it has bad graphics for a show.. Thats the artistic art style it chose and it does it well.. I don't need to have every show to be cutting edge to enjoy something.. Same goes with SMB3 they do not need to change the graphics at all they are fine the way they are and they still look great for what the game is MENT to be.

I have to admit that graphics have affected me as well, I couldn't enjoy the Wind Waker because of the cell shaded art style. I was used to the amazing atmosphere that the N64 Zelda games art style had, so the Wind Waker didn't feel right to me. Thats the only time its bothered me, I love the Paper Mario games.

Talking about older games, I hope Super Mario RPG, and Pilot Wings 64 come to the VC. Imagine Pilot Wings 64 with the GC anologue stick. That would be amazing as it would be smoother.

I don't think it was the graphics as so much it was the art direction the game went..

graphics do matter but not to the extent that they make up for bad gameplay or are more important than gameplay.

thats why i would prefer half life over soldier of fortune 3 and starcraft over age of empires 3 anyday. and the wii's graphics when done well seriously can look quite good, i dont think anybody who has played smg cared about the graphics in the slightest. anyway the wii isnt about serious harcore titles with outstanding graphics, its not about that and it can still be just as great a console as the ps3 and 360, smg proved that.

i dont know how long it will last but at the moment its perfectly fine imo.

[QUOTE="Xolver"]Whoever says graphics don't matter is an idiot, not a sheep.sSubZerOo

I think graphic direction is a better explaination of it... Take a look at SMG its definitely not technology the best looking game.. But for what it is in my eyes it looks bloody brilliant.. Half-Life 2 in my eyes still looks amazing as well, and thats off a engine thats aging.. Same goes for FEAR and numerous other games..

Basically, you're agreeing with me. Graphics are still graphics.

[QUOTE="SOLID_SOULJA"]while the cows, lemmens and hermits are playing real 3d or maybe 4d games,
lowe0

4d Was a term a SCEO executive said without making any sense. Cows kept saying that term until they realized that it was like saying that they could play 9D sound...

I'm a Wii-fan, and I think graphics matter.

However, realistic, life-like graphics in the long run do not.

Ahahaha this topic actually made me laugh out loud. I'm sure it's a joke topic or whatnot. Because..well simply because Zelda Phantom Hourglass is a great looking title and the fact that even though it's flattering that MP3 screenshot isn't even real.

Jesus christ.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="SOLID_SOULJA"]while the cows, lemmens and hermits are playing real 3d or maybe 4d games,
curono

4d Was a term a SCEO executive said without making any sense. Cows kept saying that term until they realized that it was like saying that they could play 9D sound...

Uhmmm...no. Way to attempt rewriting history. 4D was a term Sony used to claim the cell had the power to implement real time into various aspects of games. Lemmings heard 4d made hundreds of idiotic threads claiming the PS3 could travel back in time or rip wormholes in space.

One day lemmings will realize that 4D is possible in games as consoles get more powerful and will hopefully make fewer ridiculous statements like what you have done. But I won't hold my breath for the lemmings to understand something.

While I found the original post interesting, I just want to ask one thing, what the heck is a 4D game. I mean, if the forth dimention is time, then there are games out there that allow you to screw with and manipulate time?

No really though, games will never get better than 3D, cause that is reality as we know it. Be careful, just because a number is bigger doesn't necessarily mean it's better or makes sense. Though personally graphics really do matter. I haven't ever been able to fully enjoy FFVII, despite how good a game it issimply cause of the graphics. That doesn't mean one can't enjoy a game with lousy graphics, just that lousy graphics can be a pretty big turn off.

While I found the original post interesting, I just want to ask one thing, what the heck is a 4D game. I mean, if the forth dimention is time, then there are games out there that allow you to screw with and manipulate time?

Insane00

Uhmmm...what about games like Blinx? That game allowed you to screw with and manipulate time. What about games like The Sims where your characters grow old? That is time. Hell, technically, even games like Animal Crossing used time as a gameplay element as you played according to a real time clock. Other games like Ocarina of Time had aconstantday and night cycle you had to live by. If it is tied to gameplay then it is 4D.

This aspect has been only limited as the potential to make time more and more of a gameplay element requires tons of power. Imagine playing a game where your character gets older the longer you play and may die if he gets too old? Imagine games where your actions can affect setting or cities or populations and you can watch the total effect as time progresses. This is 4D.

you think phantom hourglass looks bad? game looks amazing, i feel bad for you :Dgander448

He hasn't played it and doesn't know what he is talking about.

I have a crap laptop with a weaksauce 7400go chip. I have to play games like Gears, CoD4, GRAW2, and WiC pretty much on the lowest settings. I don't let the garbage graphics keep me from having fun though.

yeah I never really got the concept of 4d I mean I think it involves time right? so wouldnt that mean that we live in 4d?

Also I'm actually saving up for a 360, not because of the graphics but BECAUSE OF THE GOOD GAMES!!!!! :o shocker.