"If your interested in Prototype,your an *******" Says Eric Holmes

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#1 MachoBuzzzy
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Not just any *******, but "******* of the highest order". Prototype's lead designer, Eric Holmes, thinks that the type of person interested in a game like Prototype is the same type of person that, well... isn't very nice.

"People who play this sort of game are ******* of the highest order, and you can't make them care about the good things. The metaphor of the school bus on the side of the bridge and saving the screaming children -- you put someone in a videogame environment like that, they don't want to save the kids."

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#2 W1NGMAN-
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lol true Ill rather see the bus go down

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#3 Firebird-5
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The entire point of a video game is to divorce concequence from action, therefore introducing safety.

This guy is clearly an idiot, not only are the children not real in the game, nothing will happen if you save them or not. If you were presented with such a situation in the real world, you wouldn't be able to do anything about it anyway. Keep your moral cavalier attitude out of the game industry and the world will be a better place.

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#4 agff9
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I'm not and I want to play this.
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#5 skrat_01
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*shrugs* I just like its open world sandbox design.
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#6 killerfist
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Thanks Eric.
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#7 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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So if I'm an a-hole, I guess the lead designer is a d-bag.

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#8 JLF1
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Not just any *******, but "******* of the highest order". Prototype's lead designer, Eric Holmes, thinks that the type of person interested in a game like Prototype is the same type of person that, well... isn't very nice.

"People who play this sort of game are ******* of the highest order, and you can't make them care about the good things. The metaphor of the school bus on the side of the bridge and saving the screaming children -- you put someone in a videogame environment like that, they don't want to save the kids."

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I strongly dissagre with him here.

Why can't I choose the right thing to do because I'm a gamer?

I don't know who Eric Holmes is but if I even meet him I will easily tell him what I think of his narrow, short-sided, broken view of gamers. People like him shouldn't have that kind of news power.

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If I seen a schoolbus full of children dangeling on a ledge and I was a killing machine...well I'd put 2 and 2 together...
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#10 Verge_6
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...The guy misses the whole freaking point of video games, and he designs them?

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#11 TheGrat1
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Call me an a**hole, one more time..... :evil:

Seriously though, i'm not even that interested in Prototype.

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#12 Bigboss232
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Bye bye bus.

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#13 kweeni
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*sigh* does this fool even know what video games are for?
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#14 naval
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lol, doing stupid/bad stuff in games doesn't means that I will or want do those things in real life
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#15 Salt_The_Fries
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He sounds like a bitter fanboy.
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I think im a nice guy :(
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#17 skrat_01
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...The guy misses the whole freaking point of video games, and he designs them?

Verge_6
Yeah, its baffling to say the least...
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#18 SpinoRaptor24
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...The guy misses the whole freaking point of video games, and he designs them?

Verge_6

Yeah seriously. Why is he designing Prototype then?

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#19 murat8
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im pretty sure thats a joke
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#20 MachoBuzzzy
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I think im a nice guy :(jg4xchamp
Yellow is better than blue:P
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#21 jjenkins78x
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...The guy misses the whole freaking point of video games, and he designs them?

Verge_6
I think you just missed the whole point of what he is saying. Seems like everyone did. He is saying that traditionally in these open-world games, players like to see how much they can get away with. It lets the ******* in all of us run amok. In GTA do you only kill who you need to kill, or do you sometimes beat strangers to death with blunt instruments for no real reason? In Assassin's Creed, did you beat the crap out of the beggar that just bumped into you? Do you stop at red lights or run over old ladies in the intersection? I can't believe how out of line the responses to this topic are. "He called me an ******* I'm gonna boycott!" I can't believe people are getting offended by this.
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#22 Firebird-5
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

...The guy misses the whole freaking point of video games, and he designs them?

jjenkins78x

I think you just missed the whole point of what he is saying. Seems like everyone did. He is saying that traditionally in these open-world games, players like to see how much they can get away with. It lets the ******* in all of us run amok. In GTA do you only kill who you need to kill, or do you sometimes beat strangers to death with blunt instruments for no real reason? In Assassin's Creed, did you beat the crap out of the beggar that just bumped into you? Do you stop at red lights or run over old ladies in the intersection? I can't believe how out of line the responses to this topic are. "He called me an ******* I'm gonna boycott!" I can't believe people are getting offended by this.

I think you are missing the point of video games as well.

And you can't expect somebody to not be held accountable when they just called their entire audience a bunch of **** I do, however, think this is just a publicity stunt.

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#23 FFXIII360
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I can't believe he said that!

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#24 delta3074
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Not just any *******, but "******* of the highest order". Prototype's lead designer, Eric Holmes, thinks that the type of person interested in a game like Prototype is the same type of person that, well... isn't very nice.

"People who play this sort of game are ******* of the highest order, and you can't make them care about the good things. The metaphor of the school bus on the side of the bridge and saving the screaming children -- you put someone in a videogame environment like that, they don't want to save the kids."

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strange, cos i have never pursued the life of a bad guy in any sandbox game i have played, i was a good guy with a halo over my head in fable, i was a good guy in oblivion also, sandbox gaming tends to reflect what we are really like inside and chances are any one who pursues the dark side and chooses to be bad is probably an ******** deep down in real life, hell i even refuse to play the gta games cos they are well below my moral standing.
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#25 JLF1
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

...The guy misses the whole freaking point of video games, and he designs them?

jjenkins78x

I think you just missed the whole point of what he is saying. Seems like everyone did. He is saying that traditionally in these open-world games, players like to see how much they can get away with. It lets the ******* in all of us run amok. In GTA do you only kill who you need to kill, or do you sometimes beat strangers to death with blunt instruments for no real reason? In Assassin's Creed, did you beat the crap out of the beggar that just bumped into you? Do you stop at red lights or run over old ladies in the intersection? I can't believe how out of line the responses to this topic are. "He called me an ******* I'm gonna boycott!" I can't believe people are getting offended by this.


But where is the proof of that?

Just because you can do a bad thing doesn't mean you will do it. He is making an extreme generalisation of the people that play games.

I know a lot of people that always do the right thing in games if they can choose. I am one of them.

What he is saying is gamers don't have any moral values, don't care about laws, can't make a good judgement and lacks common sense. It is extremely offensive if him. This is just as a bad as saying that women are worse drivers than men or that the white race is superior. Just because he is attacking the demographic of people that plays games does not make it any more justifiable or right to say.

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#26 jjenkins78x
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My God I have never seen people take things so literally in my entire life. This is literally stunning.
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#27 kingdre
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Who put the schoolbus there in the first place? :roll:

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#29 JLF1
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My God I have never seen people take things so literally in my entire life. This is literally stunning. jjenkins78x

How would you translate "If your interested in Prototype, your an ####" then?

What he is saying is that a gamer will always choose the bad (or wrong) choice because we don't have any moral values, can't make a good judgment and lack common sense.

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#30 jjenkins78x
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im pretty sure thats a jokemurat8
How is it that you are the ONLY person who gets it in this entire thread? I don't think a single person even read the article. Obviously they asked him who the target audience was, and he replied "********" because they designed the game knowing that most people will test the limits and see how much they can get away with. Every sandbox game allows you to be an "*******". And for people saying choices made in video games reflect who you are in real life, you need to get away from your PC/console and get some perspective immediately. Like NOW. Video games are a form of escapism, and in some cases role-playing. If your real life is influenced by video games you are giving them way too much power.
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#31 CreepyBacon
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That was nice of him.

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#32 ralphikari
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Did the blogger Daniel Landis do the interview? If not can you provide a link to the original interview in which Prototype's designer said these? Thx.

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#33 jjenkins78x
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[QUOTE="jjenkins78x"]My God I have never seen people take things so literally in my entire life. This is literally stunning. JLF1


How would you translate "If your interested in Prototype, your an ####" then?

What he is saying is that a gamer will always choose the bad (or wrong) choice because we don't have any moral values, can't make a good judgment and lack common sense.

If he believed that everyone would choose the evil route they wouldn't even code the good one. Look up the word hyperbole. Learn not to take things so literally. Even the article outlines what he is saying.

Forget this, I am done. You have all lost your minds if you can't figure this out.

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#34 Gxgear
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Children or adults, they're still only fictional characters made up of polygons and spites and I will do whatever I like with them.

I don't discriminate, everyone is hated equally.

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#35 JLF1
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If he believed that everyone would choose the evil route they wouldn't even code the good one. Look up the word hyperbole. Learn not to take things so literally. Even the article outlines what he is saying.

Forget this, I am done. You have all lost your minds if you can't figure this out.

jjenkins78x


Could you please explain how I have lost my mind?

I know what the word hyperbole means. If he said it in a sarcastic way then he did a very poor job of it.

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#36 PoppaGamer
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Well this shows the type of "intelligent" buyers this game is made for.


"You gotta be totally ca-rrrrrraaaaaaazzzzzzy to play this totally rad game, dudes!"

Infamous will be superior in every way.

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have you ever played grand theft auto? have you ever killed someone in it when you havnt had to? sped through the streets accidently killing people even? if you have played it then i doubt you drove at the same speed as the other cars or killed anyone for any reason without being told to.

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#38 skelebull3000
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[QUOTE="jjenkins78x"]

If he believed that everyone would choose the evil route they wouldn't even code the good one. Look up the word hyperbole. Learn not to take things so literally. Even the article outlines what he is saying.

Forget this, I am done. You have all lost your minds if you can't figure this out.

JLF1


Could you please explain how I have lost my mind?

I know what the word hyperbole means. If he said it in a sarcastic way then he did a very poor job of it.

hyperbole =/= sarcasm D:

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LOL, you guys can't take a joke. This guy > your head
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#40 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]

[QUOTE="jjenkins78x"]

If he believed that everyone would choose the evil route they wouldn't even code the good one. Look up the word hyperbole. Learn not to take things so literally. Even the article outlines what he is saying.

Forget this, I am done. You have all lost your minds if you can't figure this out.

skelebull3000


Could you please explain how I have lost my mind?

I know what the word hyperbole means. If he said it in a sarcastic way then he did a very poor job of it.

hyperbole =/= sarcasm D:


I know that.

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*Goes to Gamestop to pre-order inFamous*
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#43 sargentbotk
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Lol, I agree...I'd not only push the bus over the ledge, but demolish it in the process :)...I know it's a joke lol but I'm not interested in Prototype...

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#44 ezikiell
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LOL, you guys can't take a joke. This guy > your headSenor_Kami
I hope you are aware that was is considered a "joke" to one person is an offensive comment to another.
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#45 ironcreed
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*shrugs* I just like its open world sandbox design.skrat_01

LOL, same here. I think he could have chosen a far better way to market the game to prospective buyers. As where I come from, calling someone that is an insult. I am sure he meant it in a different context of course, but maybe he should have just chosen another word instead....like maybe 'bad ass.' You know, something that would suggest more of a compliment, as I do not think anyone wants to call themselves an A-hole, lol.

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#46 hyperkass
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true. quite disturbing game.

btw wtf is the difference with this and inFamous?

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#47 aflakian
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true. quite disturbing game.

btw wtf is the difference with this and inFamous?

hyperkass



Infamous appears to have a worthwhile narrative component.
Prototype, not so much (based on what I've read/seen from previews).

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#48 TX360
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lol it's a game i loved killing people in GTA IV but in the outside world i would never hit a person or worse kill them.
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#49 HGAT
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BeforeEric get's tooantsy about it he should remember that 'right' and 'wrong' can be subjectiveanyway.

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#50 TX360
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[QUOTE="hyperkass"]

true. quite disturbing game.

btw wtf is the difference with this and inFamous?

Prototype imo looks more fun