"Mario Galaxy Just Ripping Off Insomniac's Games" Desperation?

There's evidence all around us I think, of certain games that have borrowed from Ratchet and Clank. One that we're even extremely flattered by is Super Mario Galaxy, with their spherical worlds; we did spherical worlds in Going Commando, and Up Your Arsenal. It would be amazing to think that Miyamoto-san thought that was so cool that he wanted to incorporate it into Mario Galaxy. Granted, he's doing it in a different way, but it's still a spherical world, so it's flattering to see those sorts of things.

The charming Brits over at Kikizo sat down with Insomniac's Ryan Schneider the other day. Asked him a bunch of questions about Ratchet & Clank, and it sounds like Insomniac are rightly proud of their franchise. Also proud of R&C on the PS3, which I must say is looking pretty darn good. They're also proud of their originality as a company, though, and proud that it's influenced... Miyamoto and Super Mario Galaxy.

There's evidence all around us I think, of certain games that have borrowed from Ratchet and Clank. One that we're even extremely flattered by is Super Mario Galaxy, with their spherical worlds; we did spherical worlds in Going Commando, and Up Your Arsenal. It would be amazing to think that Miyamoto-san thought that was so cool that he wanted to incorporate it into Mario Galaxy. Granted, he's doing it in a different way, but it's still a spherical world, so it's flattering to see those sorts of things.

That Miyamoto, he's nothin' but a hack.fadih2

First off, super old. Second off, Miyamoto didn't even know what Ratchet and Clank was when he was told of the quote. He asked if it was a PC game.

[QUOTE="fadih2"]The charming Brits over at Kikizo sat down with Insomniac's Ryan Schneider the other day. Asked him a bunch of questions about Ratchet & Clank, and it sounds like Insomniac are rightly proud of their franchise. Also proud of R&C on the PS3, which I must say is looking pretty darn good. They're also proud of their originality as a company, though, and proud that it's influenced... Miyamoto and Super Mario Galaxy.

There's evidence all around us I think, of certain games that have borrowed from Ratchet and Clank. One that we're even extremely flattered by is Super Mario Galaxy, with their spherical worlds; we did spherical worlds in Going Commando, and Up Your Arsenal. It would be amazing to think that Miyamoto-san thought that was so cool that he wanted to incorporate it into Mario Galaxy. Granted, he's doing it in a different way, but it's still a spherical world, so it's flattering to see those sorts of things.

That Miyamoto, he's nothin' but a hack.jeffwulf

First off, super old. Second off, Miyamoto didn't even know what Ratchet and Clank was when he was told of the quote. He asked if it was a PC game.

Yup the above poster is correct. Way old, he didn't copy the design. He's had it in his head since the N64 days. Insomniac is taking too much responsibility onto themselves.

Miyamoto on R&C:

It's not an idea we got from anywhere else. I'm sorry but I have to admit that I've never seen the game in question. Is it a PC game?Shigeru Miyamoto

That was a pretty dumb comment from Insomniac, though, considering that Miyamoto and Nintendo were already looking into spherical world development shortly after Mario 64, as part of the fabled "Mario 128". Long before the first R&C was even conceived.

ya huh...

"It's not an idea we got from anywhere else. I'm sorry but I have to admit that I've never seen the game in question. Is it a PC game?"

- miyamoto spittin that hot molten lava at insomniac

:lol: :lol: :lol:

i don't blame him for not knowing, game sales indicate that ratchet and clank has become an irrelevant franchise

ya huh...

Pajamasalad

I like your username.
And

That picture is so pretty.

I dont see the big deal myself.Heil68

What about the big ego? Insomniac thinks that their game is so godly, that Nitendo had to steal ideas they touched upon in two games (ideas that weren't even original in those games, given that they date back to Yoshi's Island) for their own game, a game that's been in development for many years.

[QUOTE="Heil68"]I dont see the big deal myself.Video_Game_King

What about the big ego? Insomniac thinks that their game is so godly, that Nitendo had to steal ideas they touched upon in two games (ideas that weren't even original in those games, given that they date back to Yoshi's Island) for their own game, a game that's been in development for many years.

It wouldn't have been so bad if he had just wondered aloud if maybe Miyamoto was influenced. But he didn't, he basically said he was influenced, and even called it "flattering". It's almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy. He convinced himself that Miyamoto took influence from R&C for Mario Galaxy and then said he was flattered by it... flattered by his own convincing of himself. It's quite funny if you think about it.

"Spherical worlds"... OMG the revolution... I don't know where the universe would be without worlds being spherical. :|

And what's this exactly:

When told about this he laughed and said he didnt know what ratchet and clank where haha, pwned

Mario Galaxy > any ratchet and clank

ya huh...

Pajamasalad

Anyways, I'm almost certain the Mario 128 tech demo was... before any R&C game.

"Spherical worlds"... OMG the revolution... I don't know where the universe would be without worlds being spherical. :|

And what's this exactly:

-RPGamer-

I believe a Sony fan would say that won't count. I'm sure one dumbass will. I'm sure this will, something in development since 2001, hell, maybe even 1997 (128 was discussed as the sequel to 64). And when did Ratchet and Clank come out? 2002.

The concept of Mario Galaxy was made right after Sunshine was released. :|goodlay

Actually Galaxy came from Mario 128, the same place where Sunshine came from.

The concept of Mario Galaxy was made right after Sunshine was released. :|goodlay

It started with the mario 128 tech demo.

Miyamoto on R&C:

[quote="Shigeru Miyamoto"]It's not an idea we got from anywhere else. I'm sorry but I have to admit that I've never seen the game in question. Is it a PC game?Zeliard9

Shows how much Miyamoto knows about anything other than his "first party" titles.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

Miyamoto on R&C:

[quote="Shigeru Miyamoto"]It's not an idea we got from anywhere else. I'm sorry but I have to admit that I've never seen the game in question. Is it a PC game?Khanezhyray

Shows how much Miyamoto knows about anything other than his "first party" titles.

All Miyamoto cares about (in the gaming industry) is making fun games, he couldn't care less about what his competion is doing. And yet he consistantly makes some of the best games ever.

I don't understand, how can you come up with spherical worlds? Aren't all (well theres probably an exception somewhere) planets spheres? :|thirstychainsaw

you didn't know?

the developers at insomniac created the universal law of gravitation

"It's not an idea we got from anywhere else. I'm sorry but I have to admit that I've never seen the game in question. Is it a PC game?"

- miyamoto spittin that hot molten lava at insomniac

:lol: :lol: :lol:

i don't blame him for not knowing, game sales indicate that ratchet and clank has become an irrelevant franchise

JB730

He sounds as if he were lying. I mean come on, when you think platformer, who thinks PC? The platform with no platformers.

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]I don't understand, how can you come up with spherical worlds? Aren't all (well theres probably an exception somewhere) planets spheres? :|JB730

you didn't know?

the developers at insomniac created the universal law of gravitation

They did more than that:

Yea, we're actually flattered by Babylonian baker and his idea to slice bread. It seems like a compliment that he'd want to use our ideas of bread sheets in his food. We came up with that idea long ago, and quite frankly, we love that he came up with something so good that people will compare the quality of things to it. By doing so, people will say "This is the best thing since bread sheets!"Insomniac Guy

[QUOTE="JB730"]

"It's not an idea we got from anywhere else. I'm sorry but I have to admit that I've never seen the game in question. Is it a PC game?"

- miyamoto spittin that hot molten lava at insomniac

:lol: :lol: :lol:

i don't blame him for not knowing, game sales indicate that ratchet and clank has become an irrelevant franchise

slickchris7777

He sounds as if he were lying. I mean come on, when you think platformer, who thinks PC? The platform with no platformers.

So your tyring to say PC has no platformers? You might want to do some research and retract that statment before someone quotes you on it.

"Spherical worlds"... OMG the revolution... I don't know where the universe would be without worlds being spherical. :|

And what's this exactly:

-RPGamer-

A screenshot of a spherical world from Super mario World 2 from way back in '96

[QUOTE="JB730"]

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]I don't understand, how can you come up with spherical worlds? Aren't all (well theres probably an exception somewhere) planets spheres? :|Video_Game_King

you didn't know?

the developers at insomniac created the universal law of gravitation

They did more than that:

Yea, we're actually flattered by Babylonian baker and his idea to slice bread. It seems like a compliment that he'd want to use our ideas of bread sheets in his food. We came up with that idea long ago, and quite frankly, we love that he came up with something so good that people will compare the quality of things to it. By doing so, people will say "This is the best thing since bread sheets!"Insomniac Guy

my goodness, these guys at insomniac can do it all!

next time i come up with an idea, i better just pay insomniac royalties in advance because chances are they came up with the idea long before me

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="JB730"]

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]I don't understand, how can you come up with spherical worlds? Aren't all (well theres probably an exception somewhere) planets spheres? :|JB730

you didn't know?

the developers at insomniac created the universal law of gravitation

They did more than that:

Yea, we're actually flattered by Babylonian baker and his idea to slice bread. It seems like a compliment that he'd want to use our ideas of bread sheets in his food. We came up with that idea long ago, and quite frankly, we love that he came up with something so good that people will compare the quality of things to it. By doing so, people will say "This is the best thing since bread sheets!"Insomniac Guy

my goodness, these guys at insomniac can do it all!

next time i come up with an idea, i better just pay insomniac royalties in advance because chances are they came up with the idea long before me

They even take credit for the theory of evolution, saying Darwin based it off their idea of "changes over time" :P.

[QUOTE="Khanezhyray"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

Miyamoto on R&C:

[quote="Shigeru Miyamoto"]It's not an idea we got from anywhere else. I'm sorry but I have to admit that I've never seen the game in question. Is it a PC game?Zaxro

Shows how much Miyamoto knows about anything other than his "first party" titles.

All Miyamoto cares about (in the gaming industry) is making fun games, he couldn't care less about what his competion is doing. And yet he consistantly makes some of the best games ever.

I'm amazed he can make those "great" games without, at least according to him, comparing his to those other games. He could just be playing a game to pretend like he didn't know about the series, I dunno, very popular series, you'd think as a developer he'd at least look at his competition.

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]I don't understand, how can you come up with spherical worlds? Aren't all (well theres probably an exception somewhere) planets spheres? :|JB730

you didn't know?

the developers at insomniac created the universal law of gravitation

Yeah, that made that, right after inventing happiness.

[QUOTE="Zaxro"][QUOTE="Khanezhyray"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

Miyamoto on R&C:

[quote="Shigeru Miyamoto"]It's not an idea we got from anywhere else. I'm sorry but I have to admit that I've never seen the game in question. Is it a PC game?Khanezhyray

Shows how much Miyamoto knows about anything other than his "first party" titles.

All Miyamoto cares about (in the gaming industry) is making fun games, he couldn't care less about what his competion is doing. And yet he consistantly makes some of the best games ever.

I'm amazed he can make those "great" games without, at least according to him, comparing his to those other games. He could just be playing a game to pretend like he didn't know about the series, I dunno, very popular series, you'd think as a developer he'd at least look at his competition.

He's never payed attention to the competition. Do you remember Mario becoming a fast, attitude-laden speed-demon in the 90's? NO! That's why he's so great: Miyamoto doesn't sell out. He knows what makes a game great.

Insomniac just wishes they had a game people actually bought...gromit007

Spyro - 4.19m

Spyro 2 - 3.52m

Spyro 3 - 3.17m

Ratchet and Clank - 2.93m

Ratchet and clank 2 - 2.42m

Ratchet and Clank 3 - 2.17m

Resistance Fall of Man - 1.96m

Insomniac just wishes they had a game people actually bought...gromit007

Spyro - 4.19m

Spyro 2 - 3.52m

Spyro 3 - 3.17m

Ratchet and Clank - 2.93m

Ratchet and clank 2 - 2.42m

Ratchet and Clank 3 - 2.17m

Resistance Fall of Man - 1.96m

Insomniac wishes they could make such an awesome game! :roll:Bubble_Man

exactly what I was thinking.

ya huh...

Pajamasalad