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#1 Angakua
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:( why sega why? spending all this mpney on failing sonic games and .. :(

just watch the video...he says:

no to dreamcast 2

says no to shenmue 3

says no to seaman 2 :o

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#3 tiger35010
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by now I'd be happy for a Shenmue3 novel, digital novel, short story....ANYTHING!!! just let me know how Ryo will pummel Lan Di
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#4 EPaul
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Damn.......
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#7 SolidGame_basic
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I can understand no Dreamcast 2, but no Shenmue 3 wtf :cry:
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#8 TREAL_Since
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I hate to say this, but Sega has gone down a more casual route than Nintendo... maybe.
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#9 Panzer_Zwei
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First they never named any new console 2 anything.

Second, the Dreamcast and Shenmue were total disasters for the company that never really rated up to anything. Except of course for people on internet gaming forums that can't stop praising them and that for some reason seem think they know what companies should be doing.

It's easy to understand why SEGA doesn't want to know nothing about them.

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#10 Flamestos
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I can understand no Dreamcast 2, but no Shenmue 3 wtf :cry:SolidGame_basic

As much as I hate to say I can understand no Shenmue 3. The sales just didn't justify the amount of money put into the game even though the series is awesome. I still want a new Shenmue and Jet Grind Radio though too bad they will never happen.

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#11 -DrRobotnik-
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Then they should sell off the Shenmue licence to someone who does want to make it!!
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#12 masori
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no to shenmue 3

Angakua

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#13 ULTIMATEZWARRIO
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at the very least i want a sonic adventure 3 game, instead of these half-a$$ed wannabes
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#14 SCREAMIN_MANTIS
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The Shenmue series have some of the best storytelling you will ever see in a videogame. Then i see ppl hype games like MGS4, which in my opinion doesn't have as great a story as Shenmue. The thing with Shenmue is that there are characters that you come to love and care about . The story maybe a bit cliched but the way its presented as well is what also makes it so great, it feels like a real life story, a grounded story which grips the player playing the game more so than the critically- acclaimed MGS4.

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#15 110million
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He said NO to Seaman 2, but "no plans right now" for Shenmue 3.
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#16 SolidGame_basic
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The Shenmue series have some of the best storytelling you will ever see in a videogame. Then i see ppl hype games like MGS4, which in my opinion doesn't have as great a story as Shenmue. The thing with Shenmue is that there are characters that you come to love and care about . The story maybe a bit cliched but the way its presented as well is what also makes it so great, it feels like a real life story, a grounded story which grips the player playing the game more so than the critically- acclaimed MGS4.

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Have you played all of the MGS games?

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#17 ULTIMATEZWARRIO
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[QUOTE="SCREAMIN_MANTIS"]

The Shenmue series have some of the best storytelling you will ever see in a videogame. Then i see ppl hype games like MGS4, which in my opinion doesn't have as great a story as Shenmue. The thing with Shenmue is that there are characters that you come to love and care about . The story maybe a bit cliched but the way its presented as well is what also makes it so great, it feels like a real life story, a grounded story which grips the player playing the game more so than the critically- acclaimed MGS4.

SolidGame_basic

Have you played all of the MGS games?

yea lol, sounds like he hasn't and has just been listening to other peoples opions
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Then they should sell off the Shenmue licence to someone who does want to make it!!-DrRobotnik-

EA?

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#19 110million
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[QUOTE="SCREAMIN_MANTIS"]

The Shenmue series have some of the best storytelling you will ever see in a videogame. Then i see ppl hype games like MGS4, which in my opinion doesn't have as great a story as Shenmue. The thing with Shenmue is that there are characters that you come to love and care about . The story maybe a bit cliched but the way its presented as well is what also makes it so great, it feels like a real life story, a grounded story which grips the player playing the game more so than the critically- acclaimed MGS4.

SolidGame_basic

Have you played all of the MGS games?

I have, and I agree that Shenmue does a better story telling job. Even though I'd give MGS4 a 10, Shenmue and Shenmue 2 both also deserve it.

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#20 Shenmue_Jehuty
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Shenmue is my favorite game of all time and to know that Sega will likely never make number 3 too finish up seriously makes me sad. I remeber after beating Shenmue 2 like 4 years ago I manically looked for any evidence that Shenmue 3 was being made. Rumors would surface but they'd always end up dead where they began. Shenmue fans, including myself, anxiously await every E3 and every TGS hoping that there is even a hint that they will be making the third and final installment but its the same every year. I am still hopeful though; even if I have to wait to play it on XBOX 1080 or Dreamcast 2 in like 20 years, I will wait patiently to find out what happened after the cave scene.

Oh and the fact that Dreamcast 2 isn't being made really pisses me off too.

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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Then they should sell off the Shenmue licence to someone who does want to make it!!PandaBear86

EA?

Or Acti-Blizzard.

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#22 TBoogy
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by now I'd be happy for a Shenmue3 novel, digital novel, short story....ANYTHING!!! just let me know how Ryo will pummel Lan Ditiger35010

Agreed. At this point I just want to know how the story ends.

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#23 BlueTimber
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Sure, Shenmue cost money, but I'd rather have 1 good Shemue game, than 50 million different HORRIBLE scoring, HORRIBLE selling Sonic games. They need to get that through their head. At least shenmue would do some good for their reputation.
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#24 SCREAMIN_MANTIS
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[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"][QUOTE="SCREAMIN_MANTIS"]

The Shenmue series have some of the best storytelling you will ever see in a videogame. Then i see ppl hype games like MGS4, which in my opinion doesn't have as great a story as Shenmue. The thing with Shenmue is that there are characters that you come to love and care about . The story maybe a bit cliched but the way its presented as well is what also makes it so great, it feels like a real life story, a grounded story which grips the player playing the game more so than the critically- acclaimed MGS4.

ULTIMATEZWARRIO

Have you played all of the MGS games?

yea lol, sounds like he hasn't and has just been listening to other peoples opions

haha, you guys make me laugh im not saying MGS4 has a bad story it probably does has the best storytelling in the industry BUT in my opinion Shenmue has a better story because i really care about each character and that its believable, in the MGS games theres alot of characters i could care less about. For e.g. Fatman in MGS2

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#25 BlueTimber
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[QUOTE="SCREAMIN_MANTIS"]

The Shenmue series have some of the best storytelling you will ever see in a videogame. Then i see ppl hype games like MGS4, which in my opinion doesn't have as great a story as Shenmue. The thing with Shenmue is that there are characters that you come to love and care about . The story maybe a bit cliched but the way its presented as well is what also makes it so great, it feels like a real life story, a grounded story which grips the player playing the game more so than the critically- acclaimed MGS4.

SolidGame_basic

Have you played all of the MGS games?

The story and plot in MGS is so over the top and ridiculous. the characters are interesting without a doubt, but the plot doesn't make one granulatory ounce of sense. It's just so...out there, so unbelievable that it's impossible to be taken seriously. And the way it's told? Ugh, MGS2 was the worst. Suddenly, in the last hour of the game, you're absolutely FLOODED with what info in the worst method possible.

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#26 famicommander
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Good. Either one of the two would put SEGA out of business. They don't have the funds, the trust of the public, or the third party relations to support a new console. And they just plain can't afford another colossal flop from the Shenmue series (though I do love the games). Any real SEGA fan knows that we have to deal with this. There will be no new console, and there will be no new Shenmue. A new console means the death of SEGA.
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#27 SeanBond
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Sure, Shenmue cost money, but I'd rather have 1 good Shemue game, than 50 million different HORRIBLE scoring, HORRIBLE selling Sonic games. They need to get that through their head. At least shenmue would do some good for their reputation.BlueTimber

Yeah, Sega sucks now. It's funny; I never got into Sega or their games (despite having a Genesis and Game Gear) until the Dreamcast, but that system really opened my eyes to how talented they are (and before people start screaming about the Saturn, yes, I know it had a bunch of amazing stuff too), and within one generation, they've done all they could to completely destroy my newfound admiration for them. I wanted to like Sonic for the 360, but it was so badly put together that it was unplayable at certain points, and it seems that they're trying to go the Nintendo/Mario route by putting Sonic in at least one game in every conceivable genre, most of which are horrible. At least the majority of Mario games are well-made, but this new Sega seems to not even really care about quality control.

It's a shame, because with the Dreamcast, Sega showed a lot of dedication towards developing/publishing unique and niche games that you didn't see anywhere else in gaming, and now they're just a watered-down version of Nintendo, mass-producing titles from their mascot and ignoring hardcore gamers everywhere. Shenmue 3 would easily be my most anticipated game of (at least) the last few years, but unfortunately the combination of how overly expensive the first two were (relative to what they grossed) and the fact that Sega is under new ownership essentially means there's no chance in hell I'll ever see my beloved series end.

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#28 organic_machine
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Then they should sell off the Shenmue licence to someone who does want to make it!!-DrRobotnik-

They should sell it to Bethesda so that they can dumb it down! who cares? Dumb down = more profit! To hell with true quality!

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#29 panquecas
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no shenmue 3 means no sega games for me.
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#30 Pablo_Aimar
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They spent so much making the first 2 games that although the sales were good it didnt recoup what they spent $70m it cost them.

So I would be happy if they used the same engine as the first 2 games but just polished the graphics etc, just so I can find out what happens and how the story ends.

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#31 110million
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This topic has tempted me to play Shenmue again, its one of the few "series" I can play from start to finish over and over again.
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#32 sargentbotk
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Shenmue is the game that got me into action adventure games. It's the reason why I like Assassin's Creed even though it was repetitive. IHY Sega! Sonic Unleashed better be good!
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#33 Panzer_Zwei
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They spent so much making the first 2 games that although the sales were good it didnt recoup what they spent $70m it cost them.

So I would be happy if they used the same engine as the first 2 games but just polished the graphics etc, just so I can find out what happens and how the story ends.

Pablo_Aimar

Only that sales *weren't* good. Nor of the game nor of the Dreamcast itself. When the game was released they needed every Dreamcast owner to buy the game two times in order to meet sales expecations. Something that of course was just plain out of the question.

They actually already had enough material developed to release at least another Shenmue game. Yet they choose to rather not make the wound any bigger.

The already cancelled Shenmue Online was actually being made with the leftovers from the Shenmue production.

So if they didn't made another game when they already had most of the stuff done, what makes you think they would do one now?

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#34 110million
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[QUOTE="Pablo_Aimar"]

They spent so much making the first 2 games that although the sales were good it didnt recoup what they spent $70m it cost them.

So I would be happy if they used the same engine as the first 2 games but just polished the graphics etc, just so I can find out what happens and how the story ends.

Panzer_Zwei

Only that sales *weren't* good. Nor of the game nor of the Dreamcast itself. When the game was released they needed every Dreamcast owner to buy the game two times in order to meet sales expecations. Something that of course was just plain out of the question.

They actually already had enough material developed to release at least another Shenmue game. Yet they choose to rather not make the wound any bigger.

The already cancelled Shenmue Online was actually being made with the leftovers from the Shenmue production.

So if they didn't made another game when they already had most of the stuff done, what makes you think they would do one now?

Well, I think a lot of people who want it, understand that if they haven't done anything with it yet, its unlikely they will, but theres nothing wrong with putting a little bit of hope into it. Like how they said "No" for seaman 2 but "no plans" for shenmue 3, its the little things that hope can cling onto.

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Well, I think a lot of people who want it, understand that if they haven't done anything with it yet, its unlikely they will, but theres nothing wrong with putting a little bit of hope into it. Like how they said "No" for seaman 2 but "no plans" for shenmue 3, its the little things that hope can cling onto.

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It's simple common sense really.

If SEGA tought the Shenmue franchise was profitable to them at all. We would already had Shenmue IV.

Ryu Ga Gotoku came out in 2005 and it's already on it's third installment. With a fourth one already in production. Whereas Shenmue is dead franchise, and there it will remain.

And this is besides the fact that Ryu Ga Gotoku is better than what Shenmue ever hoped to be.

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#36 XenoNinja
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Lol, I think Sega would only have second thoughts about releasing another console if Sony & Microsft dropped out, but at this point, it would just be suicidal.
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#37 ferrarimanf355
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At least he didn't say no to Daytona USA 3... :D
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#38 cosmostein77
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The simple answer:

Sega doesn't want to lose money on a console or game they have no chance at turning a profit with.

Sega took a HUGE bath with the original Shenmue, it cost over 70million to make and would have required every Dreamcast over to buy it twice in order for them to breakeven, and considering only broke 1.2 million copies it didn't come close.

The second one I cannot imagine did all that much better,

Its a great franchise that gamers simply do not support enough on mass to justify the creation of a sequel.

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#39 adastos
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[QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"]Dreamcast was the dam best console ever, DC2 wud've raped all.... too bad for you SegacrunchUK

i know it's disgusting... best console seems to mean worst sales these days :evil:

seriously playing shenmue was like playing a really really really great film. they should bring it back :cry:

Exactly you could enjoy the game if you were just watching someone play.
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#40 110million
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[QUOTE="110million"]

Well, I think a lot of people who want it, understand that if they haven't done anything with it yet, its unlikely they will, but theres nothing wrong with putting a little bit of hope into it. Like how they said "No" for seaman 2 but "no plans" for shenmue 3, its the little things that hope can cling onto.

Panzer_Zwei

It's simple common sense really.

If SEGA tought the Shenmue franchise was profitable to them at all. We would already had Shenmue IV.

Ryu Ga Gotoku came out in 2005 and it's already on it's third installment. With a fourth one already in production. Whereas Shenmue is dead franchise, and there it will remain.

And this is besides the fact that Ryu Ga Gotoku is better than what Shenmue ever hoped to be.

That hurts... not knowing Japanese, I've only played the first Ryu Ga Gotoku, and I did find it to be quite amazing, the second one will be a day one purchase, but it would have to be quite a bit better then the first to make it better then shenmue. I hope Kenzan eventually makes it here too, but as long as they release the third one here eventually, I'll still be happy.

I know what you mean though, I'll still maintain a small bit of hope, for eventual Shenmue sequel, I don't really mind in what format, but I would like to know how it ends, it wasn't like novel quality story, but stopping a story half way is still sort of irritating.

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#41 naruto7777
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i agree sonic sucks
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No to Streets of Rage 4?
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at the very least i want a sonic adventure 3 game, instead of these half-a$$ed wannabesULTIMATEZWARRIO

Well, it seems "Sonic Unleased" is a new Sonic Adventure game. In Japan it is called "Sonic World Adventure" I can't wait for the game.

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#44 beast667
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gee, Sega doesn't want to make follow-ups to 2 things that flopped terribly in sales. Go figure!
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#46 110million
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[QUOTE="ULTIMATEZWARRIO"]at the very least i want a sonic adventure 3 game, instead of these half-a$$ed wannabesaustin_is_god

Well, it seems "Sonic Unleased" is a new Sonic Adventure game. In Japan it is called "Sonic World Adventure" I can't wait for the game.

Yeah I was hyped until that horrid werewolf footage, its officialy ruined like all the other sonic games now.

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#47 Ilived
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I can understand no Dreamcast 2, but no Shenmue 3 wtf :cry:SolidGame_basic

Why can't you understand no Shenmue 3? Do you know that Shenmue 2 was the most expensive game ever made and it barely sold any? Why would they waste their time on a third game?

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#48 xscrapzx
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What I don't understand is why the dreamcast is considering one of the best consoles (and I am a hug fan of sega) ever. Yet because people perferred the PS2 over it and not all fans faults either because Sega did it to themselves really. So why care about it now when most of you guys either didn't purchase it or you ditched it?
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#49 sonicmj1
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I don't need another Shenmue (as much as I'd like one) as long as Sega makes another Jet Set Radio game.
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#50 -DrRobotnik-
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Maybe Sega could use the unreal engine or something for Shenmue III to cut down costs. And they should release it simultaenously on the PS3 and 360 to maximise sales as well as having a good marketing campaign?