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#51 -D3MO-
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[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="-D3MO-"]So what...it looks good for a Wii game...Conflict: Denied Ops...one of the worst games on PS3/360 looks better than Brawl... :o Nothing to brag about....

I'll be too busy having ridiculous amounts of fun with the game to care about the visuals. :)

yea...right...but you'll know deep down inside that the visuals are crap...that's how Sheep got that look in their eye...years from internalizing the pain...
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#52 dackchaar
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Looks like it could be done on GC probably (or xbox) but it'll still be a great game non the less.
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#53 Grodus5
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[QUOTE="Grodus5"][QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"]Play Call of duty 4 on a 50" HDTV then come back to me and tell me those look impressive.dewmandew7

Do you whats funny? I probably couldn't tell the difference. Unless a game is midnumbingly boring, I don't notice the graphics AT ALL except for cutscenes. I'm too busy having fun with the game to notice the graphics.

A.k.a. Galaga was the most hyper-realistic sci-fi games of all time.

P.S. Your post fails. Graphics are generally very important in terms of quality when it comes to games reflecting realistic events/settings/people. It doesn't matter as much for cartoony games, because it's not made to have realistic textures and physics and such.

I'm not saying that graphics don't matter. I'm simply saying that I enjoy games enough not to care about them. I still play my N64, despite the "uber un1337 graphix" because its a blast to play.

Edit: I mean, look at Guitar Hero. Guitar Hero 2 on the 360 could of easily been done on the Gamecube. Guitar Hero 3 maybe. The graphics in Guitar Hero games stink so bad its not funny, but the games are among the most fun games to play. The most fun I've had with a game since Melee came out.

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#54 OneShot112
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Honestly the only way SSBB would disappoint me in the graphics department is if they had worse graphics than SSBM, even if this game had SSBM's graphics I'd enjoy it 100%.
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#55 saolin323
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There can not be suhc a thing as graphics downgrade for Wii, that is silly, when you buy a Wii, you expect the worst of graphics this gen, right ?

So, why complain about a game getting "downgraded" ???

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#56 Abriael
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The problem isn't the graphics. I'd rather play soul edge on the PS1 that has even worse graphics.

The problem is the laughable self-celebrative line-up of totally idiotic and childish (and overused) characters that Nintendo doesn't seem to be able to do away with... The funniest thing is that people praise then with Innovation... they didn't come out with a new franchise in centuries.

Pikachu and Kirby exchanging blows and screaming silly moans on my TV? I'd rather claw my own eyes and eardrums out than seeing and hearing that. :roll:

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#57 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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I remember "teh downgrade." Kind of funny really, compared to the responses in this thread now. Why did you guys ever care enough to start that in the first place?

Feh. Graphics. The true poo-slinging of SW.

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#58 deactivated-59d151f079814
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The graphics are great for what they are... What do you people want? Mario's mustache having full physics sway with it? And this is coming from a PC gamer.. Its ironic people call hermits the graphic whores, yet I see pointless or irrelevent graphic arguments going on about console games.. The game is fine I wouldn't care if it doesn't have cutting edge graphics.. Could the game even have cutting edge graphics to begin with, with out pretty much changing the classical looks of all the characters?
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#59 XEviscerateX
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it still doesnt look that great.VendettaRed07

You're right, it looks epic.

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#60 Abriael
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You're right, it looks epic.XEviscerateX

"epic" isn't the word i'd use. It actually looks childish. Overwhelmingly childish.

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#61 dewmandew7
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[QUOTE="dewmandew7"]

[QUOTE="Grodus5"][QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"]Play Call of duty 4 on a 50" HDTV then come back to me and tell me those look impressive.Grodus5

Do you whats funny? I probably couldn't tell the difference. Unless a game is midnumbingly boring, I don't notice the graphics AT ALL except for cutscenes. I'm too busy having fun with the game to notice the graphics.

A.k.a. Galaga was the most hyper-realistic sci-fi games of all time.

P.S. Your post fails. Graphics are generally very important in terms of quality when it comes to games reflecting realistic events/settings/people. It doesn't matter as much for cartoony games, because it's not made to have realistic textures and physics and such.

I'm not saying that graphics don't matter. I'm simply saying that I enjoy games enough not to care about them. I still play my N64, despite the "uber un1337 graphix" because its a blast to play.

Edit: I mean, look at Guitar Hero. Guitar Hero 2 on the 360 could of easily been done on the Gamecube. Guitar Hero 3 maybe. The graphics in Guitar Hero games stink so bad its not funny, but the games are among the most fun games to play. The most fun I've had with a game since Melee came out.

The graphics in Guitar Hero aren't bad. :? Have you played the PS3/360 versions? There's definitely an upgrade from last gen.

Anyway, graphics are totally irrelevant in a game like Guitar Hero. However, in a first person shooter or role playing game (just to name a couple), the graphics do make environments more believable and realistic. Also, higher resolution screens allow you to spot details further away better than you could in standard definition.

I agree, in a game like Super Smash Bros. Brawl or Super Mario Galaxy, graphics aren't a huge deal.

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#62 bl33kda58
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Looks like it could be done on GC probably (or xbox) but it'll still be a great game non the less.dackchaar

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just look at the graphical difference do you thik that can be done one the gamecube:| your an idiot

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#63 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="XEviscerateX"]You're right, it looks epic.Abriael

"epic" isn't the word i'd use. It actually looks childish. Overwhelmingly childish.

Sorry alot of us arn't insecure to the point that we won't play a game because it looks "kiddy" or "cartoony", instead of it being fun or not..

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#64 elektrixxx
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There's a chance that GameSpot will give Brawl a 10. Nothing about the game is a downgrade.
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#65 hugo_ben
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Play Call of duty 4 on a 50" HDTV then come back to me and tell me those look impressive.Kratos_OMEGA

-ooooh, what an impressive good looking gun that enemy has over there!

*enemy headshots you*

-darn!

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#66 XEviscerateX
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[QUOTE="XEviscerateX"]You're right, it looks epic.Abriael

"epic" isn't the word i'd use. It actually looks childish. Overwhelmingly childish.

Im sry u feel so self-conscious about playing one of the most fun multiplayer games every made.

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#67 -Karmum-
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Who hypes brawl based on graphics :?? Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Indeed. I would be amazed if someone was hyping SSBB on graphics.

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#68 deactivated-57a12126af02c
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Its the Wii....:|:lol:
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#69 Cicatraz_ESP
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It's called fanboyism :| It happens all the time... after KZ2 flops cows are going to play it off as if they never hyped it, and knew it was trash from the start.darkslider99

lol. fanboys bashing fanboys.

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#70 GunSmith1_basic
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there has never been a gen that was about pretty visuals, and this gen is no different. That's why the wii is crushing its competition right now

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#71 GundamGuy0
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Its the Wii....:|:lol:kool-aids

SSBB is teh Wii? What my world has been blown. I thought the Wii was a console... not SSBB...

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#72 KatanaWolf
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The models and textures are good, well done, like I've seen on PS2, XBox and GC.

But the problem is those shots are up close, so the smoothness is visible.

In the actual game the characters will be smaller and the pretty detail will be lost due to the low resolution relative to PS3 or 360 games.

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#73 deactivated-57a12126af02c
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[QUOTE="kool-aids"]Its the Wii....:|:lol:GundamGuy0

SSBB is teh Wii? What my world has been blown. I thought the Wii was a console... not SSBB...

Its on the Wii, you cant expect PS3 caliber graphics on the Wii.

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#74 PopeReal
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The problem isn't the graphics. I'd rather play soul edge on the PS1 that has even worse graphics.

The problem is the laughable self-celebrative line-up of totally idiotic and childish (and overused) characters that Nintendo doesn't seem to be able to do away with... The funniest thing is that people praise then with Innovation... they didn't come out with a new franchise in centuries.

Pikachu and Kirby exchanging blows and screaming silly moans on my TV? I'd rather claw my own eyes and eardrums out than seeing and hearing that. :roll:

Abriael

Cool thing is you don't have to. And the millions of Smash players don't care.

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#75 subrosian
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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]When did anyone say anything like this recently?nintendofreak_2
Indeed... this thread would have been better when the first videos came out.

It is a shame, we'd be better off with Dyack's universal console, as the Wiimote could be modulized, and then Nintendo could have the benefit of more powerful hardware. Of course, since Nintendo makes a profit on hardware sales, they'd be the most opposed to the creation of the "ideal console".

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#76 subrosian
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[QUOTE="Abriael"]

The problem isn't the graphics. I'd rather play soul edge on the PS1 that has even worse graphics.

The problem is the laughable self-celebrative line-up of totally idiotic and childish (and overused) characters that Nintendo doesn't seem to be able to do away with... The funniest thing is that people praise then with Innovation... they didn't come out with a new franchise in centuries.

Pikachu and Kirby exchanging blows and screaming silly moans on my TV? I'd rather claw my own eyes and eardrums out than seeing and hearing that. :roll:

PopeReal

Cool thing is you don't have to. And the millions of Smash players don't care.

Yes indeed, take a fighting game, stock it with existing, well-known characters - it's not a new formula, but it still sells. Pokemon has been the same game, time and time again, since the mid-90s, and people will still be asking "where's the next Pokemon?" when the DS 2 comes out.

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#77 sadikovic
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Thats becuase most fanboys aren't smart and judge games by looks, so attacking a games graphical strength somehow makes makes the game fail... the thing is the game is going to be great it doesn't have to be a Crysis to get praise.

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#78 Malta_1980
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We all know that the Wii is the least technical powefull console so in all honesty its not fair to compare its graphical capabilities with other consoles...

I think that when utilised to its best it can produce really good looking games... Super Mario Galaxy is a very good example.. I personally think SSBB looks good and afterall its always been abount playability rather than graphics in the Brawl series

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#79 skrat_01
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Hu?

It still looks great...

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#80 Erkidu
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The problem isn't the graphics. I'd rather play soul edge on the PS1 that has even worse graphics.

The problem is the laughable self-celebrative line-up of totally idiotic and childish (and overused) characters that Nintendo doesn't seem to be able to do away with... The funniest thing is that people praise then with Innovation... they didn't come out with a new franchise in centuries.

Pikachu and Kirby exchanging blows and screaming silly moans on my TV? I'd rather claw my own eyes and eardrums out than seeing and hearing that. :roll:

Abriael
Sorry, but what? 1. Pikmin 2. Animal Crossing 3. Nintendogs (laugh all you want - it's the best selling stand-alone title in history) 4. Brain Age 5. Wii series (WiiSports, WiiPlay, WiiFit, etc.) Those are new Nintendo franchises released within the last few years. Educate yourself, please.
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#81 Akuma88
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You don't play Wii games for graphics.Cute_Red_Panda

You shouldn't play any game for its graphics.

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#82 StringGuard
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You decided you needed to make this thread because 3 or 4 people said Wii couldn't handle graphics that aren't that great to begin with?
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#83 akif22
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the in-game vids i've seen look fine .. why judge the game on screenshots?
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#84 Virus214
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personally. those screens look great. I love them. Brawl is goty 2008 in my book :P
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#85 Verge_6
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Even if it were true...

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#86 AwakenedMaster
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Honestly, it never looked very good graphically to me... Maybe for the Wii they're decent, but overall, nah.

I don't really care about the graphics in it though, Smash Bros has always been about great gameplay, hopefully Brawl delivers.

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#87 deluxemando
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Super smash graphics are something very strange. Every gen, the graphics in SSB is a mix of technical profiency and style, and as a result, the visuals age very slowly. I think most of us agree that in motion, melee is a decent looking game. It's a combination of cartoony style, solid 60 fps and nice character models that keep these games relatively timeless.

People, if SSBB were to be made on the PS3 or 360, i would bet you, it wouldn't look much different. How much could it improve?

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#88 glitchgeeman
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Well, they do indeed look amazing for a Wii game, though that's not saying too much. Still, I have to give credit to the game for defying all expectations and definitely looking like one of the best Wii game yet, and laugh at the fanboys who have yet to accept that the Wii is more powerful than its predecessors. Every now and then, I still run into the occasional fanboy with the stupidity to think that the Wii is weaker than the Xbox, or even the PSP. It's both sad and funny.
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#89 club-sandwich
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the graphics are ptretty damn good bor a Wii game, but I like SSB games because of the gameplay, not because of the graphics. (:
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#90 Exeed_Orbit
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Too many people are graphics whores, the game looks fine. I think it looks pretty damn good, but then again, I'm not a graphics whore. silly me.
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#91 Lazy_Boy88
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Sheep any attempt to defend the graphics and pathetic hardware of the Wii is not going to end well for you. SSBB looks like a late gen Gamecube game. It's not pretty and you're not going to win any arguments. You can argue that its a good game because it is, but the Wii is never ever going to be anything but last gen in the graphics department.
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#92 linkin_guy109
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im not gonna say anything against the game itself or the graphics because i think itll be incredible..but those jaggies on meta knight are horrible
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#93 Myviewing
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[QUOTE="Abriael"]

[QUOTE="XEviscerateX"]You're right, it looks epic.sSubZerOo

"epic" isn't the word i'd use. It actually looks childish. Overwhelmingly childish.

Sorry alot of us arn't insecure to the point that we won't play a game because it looks "kiddy" or "cartoony", instead of it being fun or not..

Yeah, pretty much everybody (self included) who's looking forward to Brawl is too mature to care....

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#94 monkeysrfat
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Looks Great. Of course looks average by PS3 / 360 standard, but still looks decent
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#95 TheWiikestLink
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[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="omgburgerking"]

Brawl never had good graphics.

-D3MO-

Ofcourse it has.
It doesn't have 'suberb' graphics, but also no bad graphics (especially for a Wii game).

Are you really that blind or ignorant, or can't you just accept that graphics aren't technical only?

Good for a wii game is like saying...its crap...but its not diarrhea

^^^^ pretty much ends this thread.




i dont remember anyone sayin wii cant handle brawl graphics.......ever....thread's a little too late.
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#96 Ilived
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I'm sorry but if SSBB even looked good I'd be impressed. Wii fans are still living in last-gen, it's sad really.
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#97 SolidTy
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When did these people bash SSBB?

The Graphics are okay, nothing special, but it does give the Nintendo faithful all giddy to see better character models of their favorite personalities.

It doesn't mean that this is the best looking game graphically over the PS2,Xb, or GC generation though.

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#98 ---OkeyDokey---
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The game looks gorgeous. I've played 25 hours of Crysis on high settings and I can truthfully say that. You graphics whores must have some screwed up vision.

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#99 NSR34GTR
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those graphics looks nice