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#51 sakuragi007
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[QUOTE="sakuragi007"]So they should be no limits. Ok what about making a game where you run a concentration camp killing jews in the most effecient way,Would you allow that? What about a game where you are a terrorist and must blow out Us buildings full of civilians in a holy crusade, or a game where you are a sexual predator, waiting in dark corners to rape young girls, sorry but you are kidding yourselves if you think they can be no limit. This game is racist propaganda, and atleast here in spain that is against the law.DeathScape666

What about the people that find blood, gore, and three way sex offensive? Someone could complain that the God of War three ways are disrespectful to their Religion.

Yup, those are okay, in my mind.

So you think it's ok to have a game where you are a pedophile, well I don't know what to say. I think I will pass on your world of freedom.

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#52 Enosh88
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its hard to explan. killing some races is ok but killing others is bad it sounds weird but thats the way the world is

sireclaborn

wow thats probably the most retarded thing I have heard in my whole life. So the life of a jew is worth more then that of a german?

face it, they were no "good guys" in WW2 (some were just more bad then the others), everyone did things that are clearly war crimes. But beacose the alied won they came out as the "good guys"

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#53 skrat_01
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Hmmm nice to see some gaming controversy brewing SW among all the mindless debate threads.

On the matter, hmmmm ill have to ponder it.,

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#54 skrat_01
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America nuked Japan killing well over 500,000 people. How about the Soviet Union ? Well Stalin was declaring war on most of Eastern Europe during that time killing innocent people as well. But teh British !!!11!! They bombed Berlin killing innocent people as well. The French...well they...gave up within a year so meh.. People get to play as those factions in WW2 shooters but they don't get to play as Nazi's because they also kill innocent people. Where is the logic in that ?

Btw if you think Nazi's are bad what they did was nothing compared to what Stalin and the rest of the Soviet Union did.

kage_53
Stalin Killed millions, but from what I know didnt seek out to commit genocide on one of the most massive scales...
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#55 EuroMafia
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They can make what they want.
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#56 II_Seraphim_II
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they can make whatever they want.

whether the people buy it or not will tell you a lot about where we are in the world.

Dreams-Visions

exactly. Governments, Agencies, Associations, and Groups should never censor art. All art should be permitted, its up to each of us as decent human beings to pick what is right. If enough decent people dont buy that game, it will be a form of censorship, but the good form of censorship, brought upon by the people. If no one buys it and they are appalled by stored/systems that alow such games, then these stores/companies will be forced to stop hosting such games and that will be a form of censorship brought on by people...the only type of acceptable censorship.

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#57 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

they can make whatever they want.

whether the people buy it or not will tell you a lot about where we are in the world.

II_Seraphim_II

exactly. Governments, Agencies, Associations, and Groups should never censor art. All art should be permitted, its up to each of us as decent human beings to pick what is right. If enough decent people dont buy that game, it will be a form of censorship, but the good form of censorship, brought upon by the people. If no one buys it and they are appalled by stored/systems that alow such games, then these stores/companies will be forced to stop hosting such games and that will be a form of censorship brought on by people...the only type of acceptable censorship.

What is art?

That is the problem.

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#58 sam280992
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[QUOTE="sakuragi007"]So they should be no limits. Ok what about making a game where you run a concentration camp killing jews in the most effecient way,Would you allow that? What about a game where you are a terrorist and must blow out Us buildings full of civilians in a holy crusade, or a game where you are a sexual predator, waiting in dark corners to rape young girls, sorry but you are kidding yourselves if you think they can be no limit. This game is racist propaganda, and atleast here in spain that is against the law.DeathScape666

What about the people that find blood, gore, and three way sex offensive? Someone could complain that the God of War three ways are disrespectful to their Religion.

Yup, those are okay, in my mind.

So you'd be fine playing a game acting as a rapist targeting different kind of people? You think people should be allowed to make that.

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#59 hurley_house
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is it wrong to say i want to download it and play said game just to be shocked a little, i mean how is this any different from all the army games out nowadays were u must kill 100s of arabs?
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#60 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

they can make whatever they want.

whether the people buy it or not will tell you a lot about where we are in the world.

skrat_01

exactly. Governments, Agencies, Associations, and Groups should never censor art. All art should be permitted, its up to each of us as decent human beings to pick what is right. If enough decent people dont buy that game, it will be a form of censorship, but the good form of censorship, brought upon by the people. If no one buys it and they are appalled by stored/systems that alow such games, then these stores/companies will be forced to stop hosting such games and that will be a form of censorship brought on by people...the only type of acceptable censorship.

What is art?

That is the problem.

art is what any one wants it to be which is why its such an open form of thing and should never be censored unless someone is geting hurt...ect

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#61 KOTORkicker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]its real, i've played it its not a good game or bad game its mediocre.DeathScape666

Is the gameplay actually not totally horrible? Is it an FPS or what?

Also, how'd you play it? And where?

You sound engrossed.. :P

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#62 skrat_01
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art is what any one wants it to be which is why its such an open form of thing and should never be censored unless someone is geting hurt...ect

WilliamRLBaker

Well the thing is there are many examples of art where someone is hurt - certain performance art, or artists who inflict self harm.

Though indeed I get your point.

When something is supposed to be malicious in such a way, it certainly isnt art

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#63 KOTORkicker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

art is what any one wants it to be which is why its such an open form of thing and should never be censored unless someone is geting hurt...ect

skrat_01

Well the thing is there are many examples of art where someone is hurt - certain performance art, or artists who inflict self harm.

Though indeed I get your point.

When something is supposed to be malicious in such a way, it certainly isnt art

Try and view it from the neo-nazi's point of view. It may be worthy of praise and beautiful for them, for it upholds their beliefs.

I think this thread belongs in OT.

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#64 argetlam00
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You know whats sad, I remember playing this when I was very young. The description of the game fits exactly form what I remember. It was one of my first FPSs I ever played and found it very fun (I obviously didn't understand the whole picture) but wow....Thats just messed up.
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#65 PC360Wii
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This made me laugh alittle, not because of the nature of the content, but because someone is insane enough to do such a thing in this day and age :S

Freedom of Speech isnt NOT perfect, hell, laws are too leniant with many things these days .... but this is just some bigits joke I would imagine.

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#66 Hewkii
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So you'd be fine playing a game acting as a rapist targeting different kind of people? You think people should be allowed to make that.

sam280992

no and yes.

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#67 funnymario
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Wow, certainly wasn't allowed on consoles.
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#68 charomid
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it is pretty bad. but its society and we have to live in it
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#69 CronoSquall
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Freedom of speech only ends when it inspires/rallies people to commit acts of violence. I guess someone could play this game and a claim could be made they were inspired to violence by it, but it would have to be proven in court, and I fail to see a situation where a casual connection between violent games like that and real violence can be firmly and scientifically established. Especially considering how disturbed all the people are who do such things in advance of such events. If the game simply lets people who have racist tendencies act out in a fantasy setting, then yes, it's perfectly legal. Thats the double edged sword of freedom of speech, you have the freedom to be an racist idiot.
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#70 GIJames248
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they can make whatever they want.

whether the people buy it or not will tell you a lot about where we are in the world.

Dreams-Visions

Yep,

Free-market economics >>>> Racism.

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#71 CronoSquall
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So you think it's ok to have a game where you are a pedophile, well I don't know what to say. I think I will pass on your world of freedom.

sakuragi007

It's a well known fact pedophilia is entirely illegal in the states, stop being so dramatic.

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#72 CaseyWegner
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this has nothing to do with system wars.