"The Wii is a toy, not a console."

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#101 FireEmblem_Man
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Video game people = bad for PR. He comes off as immature and gives off a disturbing vibe for their company's culture. Wouldn't want to work in an environment like that to be honest.Haziqonfire

Not to mention that they were complaining about WiiWare

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#102 fend_oblivion
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did OP Play xenoblade/smash bro brawl/kirby yarn/ and some other crap wii owenrs have been hypin?

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Only played Brawl in that list. Not interested in Kirby. Interested in getting Xenoblade (Yasunori Mitsuda FTW) when the price becomes a little more lower.

What are the other crap Wii owners have been hyping?

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#103 Demonjoe93
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Nothing really surprising, We knew the Wii was the worst console of all time, we just didnt know the full extent, but they can win gamers back if the Wii U lives up to its potential and doesnt squander it trying to impress casuals again.

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lol, how long have you been gaming?

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#104 goblaa
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It's a entertainment device not a toy,

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It's for playing games. games are toys.

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#105 ToastRider11
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This argument is so 2008. Why are still talking about this in 2012?

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#106 Demonjoe93
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This argument is so 2008. Why are still talking about this in 2012?

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Because System Wars likes to rehash threads.

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#107 Seabas989
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All consoles are toys.

And why so bitter?

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#108 fend_oblivion
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I wonder if people are reading my post properly because I think I'm the one who is getting the flack in some of the posts.

*twiddles thumb*

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#109 GD1551
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The way you posted that implies that you DID mean it. I know your anti-Nintendo stance. If they have anti-third party measures, then why do they TRY to get them to develop on their systems?nintendoboy16

Because people complain about it. If they were more flexible it wouldn't be hard to get devs/publishers to jump on the console with the biggest userbase.

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#110 madsnakehhh
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The Wii is a Toy, not a console...Bwahahahahaha...oh God, then please tell me what a hell is a console then?

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#111 carljohnson3456
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I get what this guy is saying. Nintendo released some quality first party games this gen no doubt, but I really do feel as if instead of shooting for the moon with missles, they pulled out a BB gun in terms of online focus. (I stole that metaphor from Wes Borland, fun fact).
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#112 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]The way you posted that implies that you DID mean it. I know your anti-Nintendo stance. If they have anti-third party measures, then why do they TRY to get them to develop on their systems?GD1551

Because people complain about it. If they were more flexible it wouldn't be hard to get devs/publishers to jump on the console with the biggest userbase.

People would complain even IF Nintendo got it right (by other standards), so what difference would it make?
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#113 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]The way you posted that implies that you DID mean it. I know your anti-Nintendo stance. If they have anti-third party measures, then why do they TRY to get them to develop on their systems?nintendoboy16

Because people complain about it. If they were more flexible it wouldn't be hard to get devs/publishers to jump on the console with the biggest userbase.

People would complain even IF Nintendo got it right (by other standards), so what difference would it make?

Except you don't know that because they haven't.

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#114 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Because people complain about it. If they were more flexible it wouldn't be hard to get devs/publishers to jump on the console with the biggest userbase.

GD1551

People would complain even IF Nintendo got it right (by other standards), so what difference would it make?

Except you don't know that because they haven't.

What with third party support? Even when it was there, they still complained. Nintendo is one of those companies that can't please anybody anymore. They are up there with SEGA/Sonic Team, Activision and Square Enix.
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#115 carljohnson3456
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What with third party support? Even when it was there, they still complained. Nintendo is one of those companies that can't please anybody anymore. They are up there with SEGA/Sonic Team, Activision and Square Enix.nintendoboy16
I highly doubt if Nintendo had 3rd party support as strong as MS or Sony that people would complain... besides the Wii's graphical inferiority.
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#116 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]What with third party support? Even when it was there, they still complained. Nintendo is one of those companies that can't please anybody anymore. They are up there with SEGA/Sonic Team, Activision and Square Enix.carljohnson3456
I highly doubt if Nintendo had 3rd party support as strong as MS or Sony that people would complain... besides the Wii's graphical inferiority.

Maybe not, but even when any Nintendo consoles get at least DECENT third party support (the N64 and GameCube get defended for this, yet at their respective gens, they still got bashed for it), they still complain. Unless if the Wii U changes things up between Nintendo and the gaming community, it will happen again.
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#117 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]What with third party support? Even when it was there, they still complained. Nintendo is one of those companies that can't please anybody anymore. They are up there with SEGA/Sonic Team, Activision and Square Enix.nintendoboy16
I highly doubt if Nintendo had 3rd party support as strong as MS or Sony that people would complain... besides the Wii's graphical inferiority.

Maybe not, but even when any Nintendo consoles get at least DECENT third party support (the N64 and GameCube get defended for this, yet at their respective gens, they still got bashed for it), they still complain. Unless if the Wii U changes things up between Nintendo and the gaming community, it will happen again.

Yeah... seems like even if Nintendo gets third party support, it has to be the same as Sony' and MS's or it doesnt count. Hopefully 3rd party devs take the Wii U more seriously.
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#118 sandbox3d
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Meh.. I consider all gaming consoles toys. Nothing to be ashamed of. There is no rule that says you cant play and have fun past a certain age lol.

I didnt check the link, but if they really said that then let them bask in their ignorance. Its a game console. Thats that. I'm sure they'd acknowledge the NES, SNES, N64 and GC as gaming consoles... so why not the Wii?

Ah well, you always have jerk offs in the industry making pointless statements every day. Nothing new.

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#119 fadersdream
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You're using "all consoles are toys" as a justification for Nintendo's mediocrity.

"bu... bu... but they are made of plastic, so they are toys, jelly... (or some such crap)"

Toy = Childish

in context of article.

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#120 fadersdream
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I highly doubt if Nintendo had 3rd party support as strong as MS or Sony that people would complain... besides the Wii's graphical inferiority.

Maybe not, but even when any Nintendo consoles get at least DECENT third party support (the N64 and GameCube get defended for this, yet at their respective gens, they still got bashed for it), they still complain. Unless if the Wii U changes things up between Nintendo and the gaming community, it will happen again.

Yeah... seems like even if Nintendo gets third party support, it has to be the same as Sony' and MS's or it doesnt count. Hopefully 3rd party devs take the Wii U more seriously.

You're only hurting yourself with that attitude. Third party wasn't to blame. Nintendo wouldn't pay them unless they sold a certain ammount, and Nintendo wouldn't promote them. So they had to develop and publish for free without any help from the main group that needs the most. . But Nintendo is first party so they didn't care if third party failed or not.
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#121 rasengan2552
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PS3/360 = universal media hub.

Wii = dedicated gaming console = toy.

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#122 skrat_01
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Can you blame them, Nitendo's service is excruciatingly bad on the Wii.
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#123 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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I remember these threads from 2009.
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#124 glez13
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LOL

Basically anything that can be said "you play with" is a toy.

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#125 glez13
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LOL

Basically anything that can be said "you play with" is a toy.

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#126 Demonjoe93
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You're using "all consoles are toys" as a justification for Nintendo's mediocrity.

"bu... bu... but they are made of plastic, so they are toys, jelly... (or some such crap)"

Toy = Childish

in context of article.

fadersdream

Mediocirty? lol, that's funny.

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#127 Mario1331
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PS3/360 = universal media hub.

Wii = dedicated gaming console = toy.

rasengan2552

tats a real remedial response.

they are all toys dude deal with it

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#128 Mr_BillGates
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LOL @ Lego players picking on Hasbro players.

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#129 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Maybe not, but even any Nintendo consoles get at least DECENT third party support (the N64 and GameCube get defended for this, yet at their respective gens, they still got bashed for it), they still complain. Unless if the Wii U changes things up between Nintendo and the gaming community, it will happen again.fadersdream
Yeah... seems like even if Nintendo gets third party support, it has to be the same as Sony' and MS's or it doesnt count. Hopefully 3rd party devs take the Wii U more seriously.

You're only hurting yourself with that attitude. Third party wasn't to blame. Nintendo wouldn't pay them unless they sold a certain ammount, and Nintendo wouldn't promote them. So they had to develop and publish for free without any help from the main group that needs the most. . But Nintendo is first party so they didn't care if third party failed or not.

Yeah youre right.

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#130 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Maybe not, but even when any Nintendo consoles get at least DECENT third party support (the N64 and GameCube get defended for this, yet at their respective gens, they still got bashed for it), they still complain. Unless if the Wii U changes things up between Nintendo and the gaming community, it will happen again.fadersdream
Yeah... seems like even if Nintendo gets third party support, it has to be the same as Sony' and MS's or it doesnt count. Hopefully 3rd party devs take the Wii U more seriously.

You're only hurting yourself with that attitude. Third party wasn't to blame. Nintendo wouldn't pay them unless they sold a certain ammount, and Nintendo wouldn't promote them. So they had to develop and publish for free without any help from the main group that needs the most. . But Nintendo is first party so they didn't care if third party failed or not.

They clearly knew they needed to sell a certain amount before getting paid. You can't knowingly accept your accept and embrace your fate then complain when it doesn't turn out like you hoped.

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#131 fadersdream
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[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Yeah... seems like even if Nintendo gets third party support, it has to be the same as Sony' and MS's or it doesnt count. Hopefully 3rd party devs take the Wii U more seriously. ActicEdge

You're only hurting yourself with that attitude. Third party wasn't to blame. Nintendo wouldn't pay them unless they sold a certain ammount, and Nintendo wouldn't promote them. So they had to develop and publish for free without any help from the main group that needs the most. . But Nintendo is first party so they didn't care if third party failed or not.

They clearly knew they needed to sell a certain amount before getting paid. You can't knowingly accept your accept and embrace your fate then complain when it doesn't turn out like you hoped.

Agreed. But so can you. So can Nintendo. So can third party developers. Therefore third party not being interested in Nintendo wasn't because of ignorance on the part of third party, but because they were aware of the situation and acted on it. They understood the situation and realized that the cost/revenue ratio was not in their favor nor would it be and chose not to aggressively pursue it. This still places the impetus on Nintendo. Which is indicative of current and future problems.
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#132 LordQuorthon
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LOL @ Lego players picking on Hasbro players.

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#133 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"] You're only hurting yourself with that attitude. Third party wasn't to blame. Nintendo wouldn't pay them unless they sold a certain ammount, and Nintendo wouldn't promote them. So they had to develop and publish for free without any help from the main group that needs the most. . But Nintendo is first party so they didn't care if third party failed or not.fadersdream

They clearly knew they needed to sell a certain amount before getting paid. You can't knowingly accept your accept and embrace your fate then complain when it doesn't turn out like you hoped.

Agreed. But so can you. So can Nintendo. So can third party developers. Therefore third party not being interested in Nintendo wasn't because of ignorance on the part of third party, but because they were aware of the situation and acted on it. They understood the situation and realized that the cost/revenue ratio was not in their favor nor would it be and chose not to aggressively pursue it. This still places the impetus on Nintendo. Which is indicative of current and future problems.

Sure, I agree Nintendo can be a really shiitty partner to to work with. Its why they have trouble getting support. However this devsépubs compaints are flat out stupid.

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#134 insomnia37
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and the Xbox 360 and PS3 are not?

LOL the only system that can't really be called a toy is the PC because it's mostly used as a tool if anything. But I've heard that Tools can be called "Toys" too.

Developers should just say they hate Nintendo and go on with life.

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The PS3 and 360 are clearly gaming consoles and the target audience are gamers unlike nintendo and their wii.
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#135 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

and the Xbox 360 and PS3 are not?

LOL the only system that can't really be called a toy is the PC because it's mostly used as a tool if anything. But I've heard that Tools can be called "Toys" too.

Developers should just say they hate Nintendo and go on with life.

insomnia37

The PS3 and 360 are clearly gaming consoles and the target audience are gamers unlike nintendo and their wii.

As far as I'm aware the Wii plays games and all 3 systems have games not dierected towards "hardocre gaminfg"