"The Wiimote is gimmicky and only good for kiddy games and minigames"

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#51 Serraph105
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ou know i have played through all of twighlight princess and i have never had such a great time with a zelda game and the last time i actually enjoyed a game that much was when i played RE4 and besides with the way the wii is selling u guys should prolly go ahead and get used to these new controlls

ps. nintendo fanboys have waited through 2 console wars now and can finally have there day in the sun let them tan i say let them tan

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#52 lordlors
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Are there people here who want the traditional controller to be the controller for consoles FOREVER as in for eternity? The wii mote is the first successful motion sensing controller for consoles so its really good to have this. without the wii mote there wouldnt be other controllers and we would remain with the traditional controller for a very very long time or even forever. there's nothing wrong about that though but if the traditional controller remains the controller for consoles for more than 50 years or so i think the gaming industry will be dying instead of widening these days because of wii mote. nintendo experiments controllers. without them we would remain with the atari controllers or PS1 controllers without analog stick used in the PS2, PS3 and Xbox, Xbox360 controllers these days.

the wii mote is great although its not yet been utilised to its full potential especially with the underpowered Wii console.

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#53 yoshi_64
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Madden on Wii was more fun than the other next gen games. My cousin rented it, and I never had more fun with it. I never liked Madden much, basically I never felt the need to put too much time learning the conttrols for a game that gets a release every year, but this was easy to get into and just more fun. Also it's kind of better in the sense that you can more easily juke your opponents, fake passes and throw off your foe. Motion a throw, and your buddy may think you tossed the ball for a second, giving you time to break away from his oncoming tackle and throw to a reciever, or fake a punt and he'll rush in if he sees you pull away.

I can't wait for so many games on Wii. Xbox 360 and PS3 have like 3 games I really want this year, but Wii has a truckload.

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#54 -KinGz-
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The wii is a nice console, people shouldaccept that, I'm getting a wii in two weeks, can't wait for MP3.
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]I'll be the first to admit that the Wii hasn't had the best or most diverse launch library, but hidden within the deluge is clear evidence of the Wii's competence, and sometimes even superiority over conventional gamepads, in many of the staple gaming genres. Action/AdventureLegend of Zelda "The combat controls are more conventional on the GameCube, since you won't be shaking the controller around to attack (though if you've already played the Wii version, expect to feel dumb when you start to shake your WaveBird and wonder why nothing's happening), but the Wii controls actually end up feeling more precise in a direct comparison. It's easier and faster to aim your arrows, boomerang, or other targeted items using the Wii Remote. It's easier to move the camera around with the Wii Remote, too." - GameSpot ShooterResident Evil 4 "The reviewers noted that while the content is almost the same as the GameCube original, the direct Wiimote-based controls offer a plus, making the game feel like something fresh and different. One reviewer said that the game offers the feeling of being closer to the action as well as upping the tension." - Famitsu Sandbox/GTA-styleGodfather: Blackhand Edition "Everything mentioned in the original review still stands (which we strongly encourage you to read, as it details the entire original release of The Godfather on last-gen systems), though there's simply more content added in. Blackhand Edition features over 25 unique motion controls, allowing you to pair up the nunchuk and Wii remote to deliver jabs, crosses, uppercuts, and power hits when fighting, IR aiming in both lock-on and free aim mode, and a ton of context sensitive grapple moves. It doesn't change the game by leaps and bounds, but after playing it on Wii I really can't see people wanting to go back to the traditional controls." - IGN Stealth/actionManhunt 2 "You're gonna want the Wii version, absolutely. There is no, absolutely no reason to get the PS2 version.... There are several major, I'd say, fundamentally important reasons you'd want the Wii version.... We went hands-on with this game for a LONG time. It was like a four hour session.... When they took it away, I was, like, 'Don't.' " - IGN SportsMadden 07 "To some extent, though, it all boils down to one question: How do you update football? The answer may very well be found in Madden NFL 07 for the Wii. At first glance, this looks like a pretty basic port of the older console iteration of Madden 07 released earlier in the year. But once you get your hands on it, you'll find a highly revamped experience that makes great use of the Wii's unique capabilities. And it's not just a few things here and there, either. Tons of the various moves and actions of football are mapped to the motion-sensing controls, with largely positive results. There are a few things that maybe don't work quite as well as they could, but by and large, Madden on the Wii is a successful reenvisioning of how football is played on consoles." - GameSpotmonkeysrfat
It does own in multiplayer. Wii sports is awesome. And why would you diss shooters. It should be awesome having a game like time crysis on the wii.

AHAHA...Did you just say crysis on the Wii? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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[QUOTE="monkeysrfat"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]I'll be the first to admit that the Wii hasn't had the best or most diverse launch library, but hidden within the deluge is clear evidence of the Wii's competence, and sometimes even superiority over conventional gamepads, in many of the staple gaming genres. Action/AdventureLegend of Zelda "The combat controls are more conventional on the GameCube, since you won't be shaking the controller around to attack (though if you've already played the Wii version, expect to feel dumb when you start to shake your WaveBird and wonder why nothing's happening), but the Wii controls actually end up feeling more precise in a direct comparison. It's easier and faster to aim your arrows, boomerang, or other targeted items using the Wii Remote. It's easier to move the camera around with the Wii Remote, too." - GameSpot ShooterResident Evil 4 "The reviewers noted that while the content is almost the same as the GameCube original, the direct Wiimote-based controls offer a plus, making the game feel like something fresh and different. One reviewer said that the game offers the feeling of being closer to the action as well as upping the tension." - Famitsu Sandbox/GTA-styleGodfather: Blackhand Edition "Everything mentioned in the original review still stands (which we strongly encourage you to read, as it details the entire original release of The Godfather on last-gen systems), though there's simply more content added in. Blackhand Edition features over 25 unique motion controls, allowing you to pair up the nunchuk and Wii remote to deliver jabs, crosses, uppercuts, and power hits when fighting, IR aiming in both lock-on and free aim mode, and a ton of context sensitive grapple moves. It doesn't change the game by leaps and bounds, but after playing it on Wii I really can't see people wanting to go back to the traditional controls." - IGN Stealth/actionManhunt 2 "You're gonna want the Wii version, absolutely. There is no, absolutely no reason to get the PS2 version.... There are several major, I'd say, fundamentally important reasons you'd want the Wii version.... We went hands-on with this game for a LONG time. It was like a four hour session.... When they took it away, I was, like, 'Don't.' " - IGN SportsMadden 07 "To some extent, though, it all boils down to one question: How do you update football? The answer may very well be found in Madden NFL 07 for the Wii. At first glance, this looks like a pretty basic port of the older console iteration of Madden 07 released earlier in the year. But once you get your hands on it, you'll find a highly revamped experience that makes great use of the Wii's unique capabilities. And it's not just a few things here and there, either. Tons of the various moves and actions of football are mapped to the motion-sensing controls, with largely positive results. There are a few things that maybe don't work quite as well as they could, but by and large, Madden on the Wii is a successful reenvisioning of how football is played on consoles." - GameSpotTugboatTheGreat

It does own in multiplayer. Wii sports is awesome. And why would you diss shooters. It should be awesome having a game like time crysis on the wii.

AHAHA...Did you just say crysis on the Wii? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Time Crysis dude not Crysis. 

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#57 TugboatTheGreat
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[QUOTE="TugboatTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="monkeysrfat"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]I'll be the first to admit that the Wii hasn't had the best or most diverse launch library, but hidden within the deluge is clear evidence of the Wii's competence, and sometimes even superiority over conventional gamepads, in many of the staple gaming genres. Action/AdventureLegend of Zelda "The combat controls are more conventional on the GameCube, since you won't be shaking the controller around to attack (though if you've already played the Wii version, expect to feel dumb when you start to shake your WaveBird and wonder why nothing's happening), but the Wii controls actually end up feeling more precise in a direct comparison. It's easier and faster to aim your arrows, boomerang, or other targeted items using the Wii Remote. It's easier to move the camera around with the Wii Remote, too." - GameSpot ShooterResident Evil 4 "The reviewers noted that while the content is almost the same as the GameCube original, the direct Wiimote-based controls offer a plus, making the game feel like something fresh and different. One reviewer said that the game offers the feeling of being closer to the action as well as upping the tension." - Famitsu Sandbox/GTA-styleGodfather: Blackhand Edition "Everything mentioned in the original review still stands (which we strongly encourage you to read, as it details the entire original release of The Godfather on last-gen systems), though there's simply more content added in. Blackhand Edition features over 25 unique motion controls, allowing you to pair up the nunchuk and Wii remote to deliver jabs, crosses, uppercuts, and power hits when fighting, IR aiming in both lock-on and free aim mode, and a ton of context sensitive grapple moves. It doesn't change the game by leaps and bounds, but after playing it on Wii I really can't see people wanting to go back to the traditional controls." - IGN Stealth/actionManhunt 2 "You're gonna want the Wii version, absolutely. There is no, absolutely no reason to get the PS2 version.... There are several major, I'd say, fundamentally important reasons you'd want the Wii version.... We went hands-on with this game for a LONG time. It was like a four hour session.... When they took it away, I was, like, 'Don't.' " - IGN SportsMadden 07 "To some extent, though, it all boils down to one question: How do you update football? The answer may very well be found in Madden NFL 07 for the Wii. At first glance, this looks like a pretty basic port of the older console iteration of Madden 07 released earlier in the year. But once you get your hands on it, you'll find a highly revamped experience that makes great use of the Wii's unique capabilities. And it's not just a few things here and there, either. Tons of the various moves and actions of football are mapped to the motion-sensing controls, with largely positive results. There are a few things that maybe don't work quite as well as they could, but by and large, Madden on the Wii is a successful reenvisioning of how football is played on consoles." - GameSpotlordlors

It does own in multiplayer. Wii sports is awesome. And why would you diss shooters. It should be awesome having a game like time crysis on the wii.

AHAHA...Did you just say crysis on the Wii? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Time Crysis dude not Crysis.

Ah, sorry. Didn't notice that. My bad. 

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#58 DSgamer64
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Some of you are focussing too much on what happens when people get tired OF the Wiimote.

Think about what is going to happen when people get tired FROM the Wiimote. Will the Wii join your ab rollerin the corner of the basement?

I see that the Wiimote is likely the first iteration of the controller of the future, but right now having a novel controller coupled with an underpowered system is a far cry from virtual reality especially when you are the only system WITHOUT HD graphics in this the HD age. An idea before it's time.

The good news for Nintendo is that they will make their R & D money back quickly. The bad news is ours because the Wii won't last 5 years before it is updated to the Wiii. My guess is that it won't take quite that long

Sheonmd

You are aware that only 5% of the world's population owns HDTV's right? Most people own LCD TV's, however not everyone has a couple of grand to blow on a TV, especially when getting an HD signal is rediculously expensive in most countries, I pay out 80 dollars a month myself which aint cheap by a long shot considering you can get an SD cable box with 300+ channels for 75% less in terms of cost. In 5 years HD will be more mainstream and more affordable, however at the current rate it is not and only tech junkies will buy into the HD experience.

I really would not complain if in 3 years Nintendo released a new console, so long as the Wii's hardware has been utilized first to give maximum performance and graphics that are far above the current state of their games. Some upcoming Wii games look great but I seriously want to see what it can do, I have seen performance demos for the GBA that were in full 3D (like N64 graphics really just fuzzier), that was hardware being pushed to its limit, I would imagine that the DS could push close to the realm of the PS2 for graphics (not as great but getting there), of course data of that size would be massive and would require a lot of storage on a current DS cartidge in order to get a complete game to fit.

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#59 MoldOnHold
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Good stuff.

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#60 springz300
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i dont care what you sheep say, Wii is not a complete console.

It is the FIRST Console to NOT USE current technology.

And CONTROLS ALONE do not make a better game experience.

Wii Doesnt even have Online at lunch even though nintendo has had 5 years to work on it (shameful).

Nintendo is a JOKE. They don't care about the gamers they created in the 80's or 90's

They just wanted to find a way to get back on top. and thats by releasing old last gen tech to charge $250 for it.
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[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]

[QUOTE="Ospi"]how is using some joysticks on a button not boring? at least now we are actually moving properly as if we are holding a weapon. our freedom of movement is much higher. mjarantilla

And how is using motion-sensing for the same length of time not boring? Maybe it's just me, but unless we're talking about virtual reality, I really couldn't care less about how you interact with a game so long as the game itself is fun.

Using one arm to point a screen with a remote is NOT simulating holding a weapon, let's make that distinction clear, shall we? And I don't see the importance of freedom of movement.

The Wii IS the first step to virtual reality. It's actually the closest anyone's come to virtual reality outside of professional applications, and certainly it's the closest video gaming has ever come to VR. VR isn't about wearing goggles; it's about realistically translating your movements in real-life to your character's movements in-game, and that's what the Wiimote does. Also, any kind of control mechanism can become boring, but full-range motion is less likely to do so because it engages your body, for the same reason any physical action is not boring: you're actually moving. With a gamepad, it's a lazy activity. I've drifted off to sleep more than once playing with a gamepad because most of what I was doing was basically rote. And yes, using one arm to point at a screen with a remote IS simulating holding a weapon, because the Wiimote itself takes the place of the weapon's handle. Whether the weapon is a gun, sword, hammer, etc., or whether it's a bowling ball, tennis racket, baseball bat, or golf club, or even something as minor as a steering wheel, doorknob, lockpick, combination lock dial, etc., the Wiimote simulates what it's like to handle those things with your hand.

When I think VR, think the Matrix. But without the huge holes in your head.

I guess it's just a preference.

The Wiimote does not in anyway simulate a firearm. Not in feel, look or execution. The rest of those examples, sure. But not a gun, not even a little bit. 

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#62 mjarantilla
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The Wiimote does not in anyway simulate a firearm. Not in feel, look or execution. The rest of those examples, sure. But not a gun, not even a little bit.

Thompsonwhore
Unless you demand 100% precision in that you HAVE to hold it in both hands like a pistol, aim down the centerline, squeeze the trigger, and brace for the kick, it comes close enough. It doesn't simulate a firearm, but it's not supposed to be like that. It DOES, however, comes close to simulating the quickness of aiming with a firearm, and that's what counts.
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When I think VR, think the Matrix. But without the huge holes in your head.

I guess it's just a preference.

The Wiimote does not in anyway simulate a firearm. Not in feel, look or execution. The rest of those examples, sure. But not a gun, not even a little bit.

Thompsonwhore


It is a ton closer than a traditional gamepad or mouse/keyboard.

And lets not forget about this...

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When I think VR, think the Matrix. But without the huge holes in your head.

I guess it's just a preference.

The Wiimote does not in anyway simulate a firearm. Not in feel, look or execution. The rest of those examples, sure. But not a gun, not even a little bit. 

     

Well, you do need to rest it on something to steady your aim and the one of the buttons is pressure sensitive.

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#65 mjarantilla
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i dont care what you sheep say, Wii is not a complete console.

It is the FIRST Console to NOT USE current technology.

And CONTROLS ALONE do not make a better game experience.

Wii Doesnt even have Online at lunch even though nintendo has had 5 years to work on it (shameful).

Nintendo is a JOKE. They don't care about the gamers they created in the 80's or 90's

They just wanted to find a way to get back on top. and thats by releasing old last gen tech to charge $250 for it.springz300
It took 60 posts, but I finally hooked my first fanboy. :P
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#66 frodnekcod
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how can bashers deny these statements? thanks for the uplifting post (a week on system wars and ive almost started disliking my wii because of everyone bashing it)
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Excellent post! Of course, don't expect to change any of the fanboy's minds. After all, to a fanboy, Zelda: TP, Metroid Prime 3, SSBB, Galaxy, Trauma Center, and every other good Wii game don't exist.
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how can bashers deny these statements? thanks for the uplifting post (a week on system wars and ive almost started disliking my wii because of everyone bashing it)frodnekcod
please dont let forums decide anything
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#69 SER69
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I agree...  the Wii is awesomor!!