"Wii" Series is now the third best selling franchise of all time

The Wii series (Wii sports, Wii sports resort, Wii play, Wii fit, Wii fit plus, Wii music) has collectively sold over 136 million copies worlwide, bouncing Tetris to 4th place. The two other franchises that are more successful are Pokemon (over 190 million) and Mario (over 220 million).

Nintendo is serious business.

Where is your source for your information?

Where is your source for your information?

nintendos-mario

This doesn't strike me as a good thing, especially for the gaming industry as a whole.

This doesn't strike me as a good thing, especially for the gaming industry as a whole.

foxhound_fox

Take a second look at the best franchises of all time, this really is a good thing.nintendo-4life

This doesn't strike me as a good thing, especially for the gaming industry as a whole.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]Take a second look at the best franchises of all time, this really is a good thing.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]Take a second look at the best franchises of all time, this really is a good thing.foxhound_fox

I find it hard to believe that people that bought Wii Sports for example would have bought point and click adventures instead

If anything kept CING afloat it was Nintendo money made by the Wii.. series..

This doesn't strike me as a good thing, especially for the gaming industry as a whole.

foxhound_fox

Why exactly? I'm not going to tell you you are wrong, I'm curious as to why this is so horrible though.

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]Take a second look at the best franchises of all time, this really is a good thing.foxhound_fox

HD consoles are equally at fault for the closure of gaming companies.. Lair shut down Factor5 and Free Radical is now gone and under a new name because of Haze.

I mean I think the rising cost of game development is a bigger issue then developers having games that focus to a 'casual' audience. Considering there have always been 'casual' games, even prior to the Wii's existence.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]Take a second look at the best franchises of all time, this really is a good thing.farnham

I find it hard to believe that people that bought Wii Sports for example would have bought point and click adventures instead

If anything kept CING afloat it was Nintendo money made by the Wii.. series..

Cing went bankrupt probably because they weren't very noticable. Some Nintendo incompetance may have a hand (not localizing Another Code for NA) but in general, they made 1 Wii game and some DS games. The DS game they did without Nintendo got ass reviews and sold like ass. Who ruined who again?

why not all the wii.. games have high quality wiisports wiiplay wiimusic wiifit wiisportsresort wiifitplus i have all of em and they are all really good gamesfarnham

[QUOTE="farnham"]Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong, I'm entitled to my own opinions... I just don't like that these types of games are the ones bringing the most commercial success.

foxhound_fox

HD consoles are equally at fault for the closure of gaming companies.. Lair shut down Factor5 and Free Radical is now gone and under a new name because of Haze.

Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]Take a second look at the best franchises of all time, this really is a good thing.Haziqonfire

HD consoles are equally at fault for the closure of gaming companies.. Lair shut down Factor5 and Free Radical is now gone and under a new name because of Haze.

I mean I think the rising cost of game development is a bigger issue then developers having games that focus to a 'casual' audience. Considering there have always been 'casual' games, even prior to the Wii's existence.

[QUOTE="farnham"]why not all the wii.. games have high quality wiisports wiiplay wiimusic wiifit wiisportsresort wiifitplus i have all of em and they are all really good gamesfoxhound_fox

and of course these kind of games are going to help the industry in a long run. people that never played games are buying and enjoying these games.

Nintendo and Mario put the "M" in "monopoly". Kind of depressing actually.

I don't care that they're successful, I don't care that people like them.

foxhound_fox

Are you not familiar with the facts about what the video game crash was?

People didn't buy the games because they weren't enjoying them

So you're afraid that a new crash will happen because games are selling well and people are enjoying them

I can safely put your mind at ease and tell you the situation you're so fearful of will never happen

Nintendo and Mario put the "M" in "monopoly". Kind of depressing actually.

Menalque2

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

HD consoles are equally at fault for the closure of gaming companies.. Lair shut down Factor5 and Free Radical is now gone and under a new name because of Haze.

foxhound_fox

And the gaming industry collectively hung it's head.Hahadouken

[QUOTE="farnham"]why not all the wii.. games have high quality wiisports wiiplay wiimusic wiifit wiisportsresort wiifitplus i have all of em and they are all really good gamesfoxhound_fox

Says who? You?

That is absolute non sense. Something you and a large portion of SW don't get is that people don't play video games for medium pushing ideas and industry defining changes according to your tastes, people play games for fun and entertainment. Did you ever think that these medium pushing games aren't what people enjoy? Did you ever think people have more fun with Wii Sports Resort than Shadow of the Collosus? And what the hell makes you an expert in knowing how much effort goes into the creation of these successful compilations? Who says there is no creative effort? This is ridiculous, this forum has a case of "I am more important and knowledgable than the lowly causals". Except its not funny, it is truly and utterly pathetic in every sense of the word.

You mean the damn mentality that has the industry constantly insulting Nintendo, casual gamers and refusing to make Wii games for 4 years. The hell are you so worried about?

You are wrong and this opinion is founded off of nothing (yeah I said it and I never say this type of this)

I love this argument. So flawed. Lair and Haze were BAD games. Little King's Story was a well made game. The developers on "HD consoles" that are shutting down, are shutting down because they are making poor games. Many "HD" developers are extraordinarily successful this gen, because they are making good games.

foxhound_fox

How is it flawed? Developers usually can't take many risks with HD games, so they do what they know will work and get them enough sales. Honestly like the only new IP that I've seen be really successful on the HD platforms is Assassin's Creed -- and I mean really successful.

And most Wii third party titles are niche. Which is funny because its on the platform with the most users.

The Wii series (Wii sports, Wii sports resort, Wii play, Wii fit, Wii fit plus, Wii music) has collectively sold over 136 million copies worlwide, bouncing Tetris to 4th place. The two other franchises that are more successful are Pokemon (over 190 million) and Mario (over 220 million).

Nintendo is serious business.

nintendo-4life

Just wait until Natal Rare-fit games...

Banjo Belly Slim

Viva Pinata Ya Gotta Get Fit

Perfect Dark get Fit in the Dark.... I'm very interested in this one... :twisted:

Diddy Kong Pass The Bong... oh wait. :P

Anyway, we shall see how this all plays out next gen as I hope these type games don't come anywhere close limiting what we see in core games for the systems.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

I love this argument. So flawed. Lair and Haze were BAD games. Little King's Story was a well made game. The developers on "HD consoles" that are shutting down, are shutting down because they are making poor games. Many "HD" developers are extraordinarily successful this gen, because they are making good games.

Haziqonfire

How is it flawed? Developers usually can't take many risks with HD games, so they do what they know will work and get them enough sales. Honestly like the only new IP that I've seen be really successful on the HD platforms is Assassin's Creed -- and I mean really successful.

And most Wii third party titles are niche. Which is funny because its on the platform with the most users.

And the gaming industry collectively hung it's head.Hahadouken

The only funny to me is how 7/10 wii users saying they let their Wii collect dust somewhere in their house.. Thats the only funny thing i can think of , considering the big "success" ( at least sales wise ) of this... overated peice of console.AzatiS

Yeah, if you go to System Wars thats the general consensus that they don't play their Wii. Most of those people are the ones who made a bad investment and didn't know what they were getting themselves into. Those are also the same people that, laughably, believe the Wii is the worst console Nintendo has made.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

I love this argument. So flawed. Lair and Haze were BAD games. Little King's Story was a well made game. The developers on "HD consoles" that are shutting down, are shutting down because they are making poor games. Many "HD" developers are extraordinarily successful this gen, because they are making good games.

How is it flawed? Developers usually can't take many risks with HD games, so they do what they know will work and get them enough sales. Honestly like the only new IP that I've seen be really successful on the HD platforms is Assassin's Creed -- and I mean really successful.

And most Wii third party titles are niche. Which is funny because its on the platform with the most users.

Um....I wouldn't be very proud of that...since we know for a fact Wii sports didn't actually sell..it was included with every Wii, infact if you look all the Wii title franchises were packaged with a needful thing. Console, Extra controller, Wii motion plus...in reality these games didn't actually sell, the system, the controller and the wii motion plus sold...the games were just included.

If those games had sold seperate they would have sold at most 100k units if that.

Um....I wouldn't be very proud of that...since we know for a fact Wii sports didn't actually sell..it was included with every Wii, infact if you look all the Wii title franchises were packaged with a needful thing. Console, Extra controller, Wii motion plus...in reality these games didn't actually sell, the system, the controller and the wii motion plus sold...the games were just included.

If those games had sold seperate they would have sold at most 100k units if that.

so if i go on and play metal gear solid 4 for 5 to 10 minutes and claim that its the worst game ever because of the 5 to 10 minutes i played.. what would people in this forum say to me.. they would probably say that i didnt even give the game a chance.. and thats what im going to say to you

and of course these kind of games are going to help the industry in a long run. people that never played games are buying and enjoying these games.

farnham

Says who? You?

That is absolute non sense. Something you and a large portion of SW don't get is that people don't play video games for medium pushing ideas and industry defining changes according to your tastes, people play games for fun and entertainment. Did you ever think that these medium pushing games aren't what people enjoy? Did you ever think people have more fun with Wii Sports Resort than Shadow of the Collosus? And what the hell makes you an expert in knowing how much effort goes into the creation of these successful compilations? Who says there is no creative effort? This is ridiculous, this forum has a case of "I am more important and knowledgable than the lowly causals". Except its not funny, it is truly and utterly pathetic in every sense of the word.

You mean the damn mentality that has the industry constantly insulting Nintendo, casual gamers and refusing to make Wii games for 4 years. The hell are you so worried about?

You are wrong and this opinion is founded off of nothing (yeah I said it and I never say this type of this)

ActicEdge

Um....I wouldn't be very proud of that...since we know for a fact Wii sports didn't actually sell..it was included with every Wii, infact if you look all the Wii title franchises were packaged with a needful thing. Console, Extra controller, Wii motion plus...in reality these games didn't actually sell, the system, the controller and the wii motion plus sold...the games were just included.

If those games had sold seperate they would have sold at most 100k units if that.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Um....I wouldn't be very proud of that...since we know for a fact Wii sports didn't actually sell..it was included with every Wii, infact if you look all the Wii title franchises were packaged with a needful thing. Console, Extra controller, Wii motion plus...in reality these games didn't actually sell, the system, the controller and the wii motion plus sold...the games were just included.

If those games had sold seperate they would have sold at most 100k units if that.

surrealnumber5

Edit: all ready found it, it was not packed in.

In every other region though the Game was packed in with the Wii.

[QUOTE="nintendos-mario"]

Where is your source for your information?

nintendo-4life

Um....I wouldn't be very proud of that...since we know for a fact Wii sports didn't actually sell..it was included with every Wii, infact if you look all the Wii title franchises were packaged with a needful thing. Console, Extra controller, Wii motion plus...in reality these games didn't actually sell, the system, the controller and the wii motion plus sold...the games were just included.

If those games had sold seperate they would have sold at most 100k units if that.

WilliamRLBaker

Yeah, more comments based off of things users don't have an idea of. Wii sports, not bundled with the Wii in Japan, sold 3 million units. Wii music, not bundled with anything sold 3 million units worldwide. And you think Motion plus sold Wii Sports Resort when the only other successful motion plus game isTiger Woods 10 which was the best selling in the series but not exceptional great? You think people bought WSR to get motion plus units they can't use on any other game? Yeah, never again talk about sales. BTW, here are the best selling Wii games in Japan, note where Wii sports is:

04/04/10 01 [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 936.734 / 3.637.209
28/03/10 02 [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 176.880 / 3.634.806
28/03/10 03 [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 254.009 / 3.560.889
28/03/10 04 [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 171.888 / 2.776.759
04/04/10 05 [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 608.147 / 2.618.969
28/03/10 06 [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo) - 816.198 / 1.924.424
04/04/10 07 [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 353.827 / 1.832.522
04/04/10 08 [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 318.755 / 1.810.917
28/03/10 09 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 282.389 / 1.396.911
28/03/10 10 [WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) - 303.204 / 1.215.828
28/03/10 11 [WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) - 582.548 / 1.016.812
28/03/10 12 [WII] Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo) - 256.341 / 977.178
28/03/10 13 [WII] WarioWare: Smooth Moves (Nintendo) - 63.086 / 647.130
28/03/10 14 [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii (Namco Bandai) - 114.610 / 646.709
28/03/10 15 [WII] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Nintendo) - 67.054 / 594.157
12/07/09 16 [WII] The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo) - 145.068 / 554.109
12/07/09 17 [WII] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo) - 156.055 / 506.298
12/07/09 18 [WII] Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Square Enix) - 302.066 / 489.112
12/07/09 19 [WII] Wii Music (Nintendo) - 98.865 / 402.539
12/07/09 20 [WII] Pokemon Battle Revolution (Pokemon Co.) - 60.310 / 352.123

People really need to grasp the concept of not saying something unless you are 100% positive.

Um....I wouldn't be very proud of that...since we know for a fact Wii sports didn't actually sell..it was included with every Wii, infact if you look all the Wii title franchises were packaged with a needful thing. Console, Extra controller, Wii motion plus...in reality these games didn't actually sell, the system, the controller and the wii motion plus sold...the games were just included.

If those games had sold seperate they would have sold at most 100k units if that.

WilliamRLBaker

... What? Don't be ridiculous. People (apart from some technophiles) don't buy hardware for it's own sake. People by hardware because they want to enjoy the software. Wii didn't sell Wii Sports so much as Wii Sports sold the Wii itself. The only case where your position is even remotely arguable is Wii Play, where the effect is more symbiotic so that the need for extra Wiimotes (Mario Kart, Brawl) helped sell Wii Play, and the inclusion of a cheap game made people buy Wiimotes they wouldn't have necessarily bought otherwise.

Whilst you and your "type" support the "forward movement of the industry", the poor lowly casual gamers that dont know any better are the ones funding your big budget, arty projects, along with the mainstream gamers that buy based on brand and are perfectly happy purchasing the next Call of Duty, Halo, GT, Guitar Hero and Madden.

It has always been this way, it is how the industry funds itself. It cannot afford to make critical failure after critical failure without some kind of income. Your apparent disgust with mainstream users would be funny if it wasnt so sad.

My point still stands the only point that doesn't was the 100k sales only.

Otherwise Those games did not sell they were packed in either with console, motion plus or a controller.

*by the way the japanese version of Wii sports amounted to about 40 dollars US, so quite cheap.*