"Wii" Series is now the third best selling franchise of all time

New kids on the block, Miley cyris, justin beiber, backstreet boys, and lady gaga, all horrendous music makers, that are completely soulless, and make the lowest form of pop music that stimulates the brain about as much as a Mcdonalds jingle in a commercial for the casual masses to gobble up. Yep, good analogy for the Wii. And just like good bands will never stop making good music, even though they arent making billions, I hope to god we never lose real developers that make real games. Somone take the creators of wii sports outside and shoot them please ;P

chrion133

this is why hardcore gamers are viewed in a negative light

thanks for continuing that trend

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New kids on the block, Miley cyris, justin beiber, backstreet boys, and lady gaga, all horrendous music makers, that are completely soulless, and make the lowest form of pop music that stimulates the brain about as much as a Mcdonalds jingle in a commercial for the casual masses to gobble up. Yep, good analogy for the Wii. And just like good bands will never stop making good music, even though they arent making billions, I hope to god we never lose real developers that make real games. Somone take the creators of wii sports outside and shoot them please ;P

ogvampire

this is why hardcore gamers are viewed in a negative light

thanks for continuing that trend

We are getting threatened be casual gamers, no one is going to make any games with depth if they can just make a gimmicky casual game and sell millions. Look at what happened to the music industry.RushKing

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New kids on the block, Miley cyris, justin beiber, backstreet boys, and lady gaga, all horrendous music makers, that are completely soulless, and make the lowest form of pop music that stimulates the brain about as much as a Mcdonalds jingle in a commercial for the casual masses to gobble up. Yep, good analogy for the Wii. And just like good bands will never stop making good music, even though they arent making billions, I hope to god we never lose real developers that make real games. Somone take the creators of wii sports outside and shoot them please ;P

RushKing

this is why hardcore gamers are viewed in a negative light

thanks for continuing that trend

thats like the argument that since the movie Blair Witch Project cost very little to produce yet made over $100 million, studios will do those types of movies instead and stop making big-budget summer blockbusters.... has anything even close to that happened? nope.... so your argument is baseless and pure speculation

thats like the argument that since the movie Blair Witch Project cost very little to produce yet made over $100 million, studios will do those types of movies instead and stop making big-budget summer blockbusters.... has anything even close to that happened? nope.... so your argument is baseless and pure speculationogvampire

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]thats like the argument that since the movie Blair Witch Project cost very little to produce yet made over $100 million, studios will do those types of movies instead and stop making big-budget summer blockbusters.... has anything even close to that happened? nope.... so your argument is baseless and pure speculationfoxhound_fox

"Two words: Paranormal Activity"

1 movie over a decade after Blair Witch?

you really think this is a trend or a change of any kind?

"If anything, a well-made cheap movie that costs $15,000 and is sold by viral marketing for over $100,000,000 is a far better business model"

well-made cheap movies are made ALL the time... very very very few make that kind of money or anything close to that. the better business model IS the big budget blockbusters... those are way more likely to make huge profits as opposed to cheap movies which rarely make anything close to that

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New kids on the block, Miley cyris, justin beiber, backstreet boys, and lady gaga, all horrendous music makers, that are completely soulless, and make the lowest form of pop music that stimulates the brain about as much as a Mcdonalds jingle in a commercial for the casual masses to gobble up. Yep, good analogy for the Wii. And just like good bands will never stop making good music, even though they arent making billions, I hope to god we never lose real developers that make real games. Somone take the creators of wii sports outside and shoot them please ;P

RushKing

this is why hardcore gamers are viewed in a negative light

thanks for continuing that trend

I hate the Wii series make something else Nintendo.

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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"] Final Fantasy is hardly casual.eveileb-ekam

i beg to differ it is the RPG version of Wii sports, it has been that way since FF7

Again, stop splitting things into casual and hardcore, it simply doesnt work.

Final Fantasy is a "mainstream" JRPG, and is targetted towards a very specific audience.

[QUOTE="farnham"]why not all the wii.. games have high quality wiisports wiiplay wiimusic wiifit wiisportsresort wiifitplus i have all of em and they are all really good gamesfoxhound_fox

It's just that your "own" opinion is a tired old "hardcore" gamers opinion. It's silly. What amusing is that since you didn't like them, they must be bad for the industry. Is it the Wii you hate, or Nintendo in general? So revolutionary gameplay is going to hurt the gaming industry? So you actually think the hardcore gamers are the majority? They're not, and they never have been. What Nintendo has done is expand the industry, bringing in news types of gamers of different ages from all over the world. They've succeeded in appealing to the casual gamer, bringing fun gameplay to families, couples, groups, etc., and thus have pretty much secured the existence of the industry.

I want you to re-read your post and you'll undoubtedly see how silly it is. You're saying that, in your "opinion", expanding the gaming industry, attracting new demographics to the industry, and maintaining a standard set by Nintendo with their first Mario game is going to hurt the industry?

Lol.

i just want all those "hardcore gamers" to answer this question:

Would you be happy if CoD was 3rd indtead of wii... series?

i know i wouldn't.

i just want all those "hardcore gamers" to answer this question:

Would you be happy if CoD was 3rd indtead of wii... series?

i know i wouldn't.

gamedude234

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i beg to differ it is the RPG version of Wii sports, it has been that way since FF7surrealnumber5

Again, stop splitting things into casual and hardcore, it simply doesnt work.

Final Fantasy is a "mainstream" JRPG, and is targetted towards a very specific audience.

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Again, stop splitting things into casual and hardcore, it simply doesnt work.

Final Fantasy is a "mainstream" JRPG, and is targetted towards a very specific audience.

locopatho

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New kids on the block, Miley cyris, justin beiber, backstreet boys, and lady gaga, all horrendous music makers, that are completely soulless, and make the lowest form of pop music that stimulates the brain about as much as a Mcdonalds jingle in a commercial for the casual masses to gobble up. Yep, good analogy for the Wii. And just like good bands will never stop making good music, even though they arent making billions, I hope to god we never lose real developers that make real games. Somone take the creators of wii sports outside and shoot them please ;P

RushKing

this is why hardcore gamers are viewed in a negative light

thanks for continuing that trend

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] i dont like to as i think both terms are meaningless but i was not the one to do that in this conversation. FF is to RPG as Wii sports is to sports games. if youre going to bash wii sports for being kiddy or casual you might as well do the same for final fantasy games

surrealnumber5

For feck sake, they are no where near equivalent. FF games are lengthy, they are complex, they are customisable, they are hard(relatively), they have lots of effort put into story, characters and production values. The Wii games are short, simple, non customisable, easy, have no characters or story, and don't bother with flashy production values. No ones Granny is picking up Final Fantasy fora 20 minute play session!

(I not insulting the Wii series btw, just saying they are VERY different experiences.)

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="locopatho"] That's silly. Games with great story, graphics, sound and most importently lengthy in depth gameplay clearly have nothing to do with the Wii Series.locopatho

For feck sake, they are no where near equivalent. FF games are lengthy, they are complex, they are customisable, they are hard(relatively), they have lots of effort put into story, characters and production values. The Wii games are short, simple, non customisable, easy, have no characters or story, and don't bother with flashy production values. No ones Granny is picking up Final Fantasy fora 20 minute play session!

(I not insulting the Wii series btw, just saying they are VERY different experiences.)

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] dont see what sound or graphics have to do with the argument and though FF games are fun and their story's are fun they are far and away from great. then we have gameplay and once again FF is not deep(note i have not played the most recent) xp in FF is just like the Mii scores only XP does not go down when you lose because when you lose you die in a RPG. i like FF games, they are good but they are to RPGs what wii sports is to sports games, a game made to be accessible by the masses. Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter would be the RPG equivalent to some "hardcore" sports game, if they make those. eveileb-ekam

For feck sake, they are no where near equivalent. FF games are lengthy, they are complex, they are customisable, they are hard(relatively), they have lots of effort put into story, characters and production values. The Wii games are short, simple, non customisable, easy, have no characters or story, and don't bother with flashy production values. No ones Granny is picking up Final Fantasy fora 20 minute play session!

(I not insulting the Wii series btw, just saying they are VERY different experiences.)

Well, yes and no. Casual and hardcore describe mindsets when it comes to playing videogames, and titles like mainstream, niche and indie describe the particular demographics the software is aimed at. Its why you can play Tetris, Guitar Hero ect with a hardcore mindset, or can play Final Fantasy, Call of Duty ect with a casual one. There is significant overlap. In truth, Final Fantasy is a mainstream game that can be played by both hardcore and casual consumers.