(RAGE) Console Gameplay........I'm Impressed

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#51 Demonjoe93
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Anyone else having trouble view the video?

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#52 fabz_95
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That's console footage? Looks so good I find it hard to believe.
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#53 parkurtommo
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Wow not as good as Crysis 2 but still very impressive.

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#54 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] I think that's a terrible idea, personally, sacrificing 30fps to AA, if anyone expects 4xAA+ they should only be expecting to be playing on PC, since consoles are 'slightly' out dated.mitu123

AA is over rated

No it's not.

It is, only slightly. Most of the games I've played have AA problems and they are very easy to ignore, fps is something you cannot ignore and must be endured till the end.
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#55 Lucianu
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They should have used 30fps but have x4 AA. No antialiasing makes every game looks like **** no matter what kind of nice textures they have when played on large HDTV.silversix_

Well what would you generally sacrifice in games, frames per second or AA. Personally, i would sure as hell take AA out if it would make it go below 20. Would rather enjoy playing the game than just looking at a slideshow.

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#56 meetroid8
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the Art style is beautiful.

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How so? I like the use of bots and turrets, this game does have potential.
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#57 commonfate
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Gameplay shouldn't be any different between Console and PC versions. The graphics will though fo sho. So if PC gameplay impresses anyone then there is no reason why the console gameplay shouldn't either.

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#58 Solid_Tango
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WTF it looks just like bulletstorm, nothing special IMHO. I wished more games would copy Resistance 3s atmphosfere :/
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#59 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

AA is over rated

parkurtommo

No it's not.

It is, only slightly. Most of the games I've played have AA problems and they are very easy to ignore, fps is something you cannot ignore and must be endured till the end.

If you sit far away.>.>

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#60 lowe0
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="mitu123"] No it's not.

mitu123

It is, only slightly. Most of the games I've played have AA problems and they are very easy to ignore, fps is something you cannot ignore and must be endured till the end.

If you sit far away.>.>

Which, of course, we were already doing. Do you have anything else?
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#61 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"] It is, only slightly. Most of the games I've played have AA problems and they are very easy to ignore, fps is something you cannot ignore and must be endured till the end.lowe0

If you sit far away.>.>

Which, of course, we were already doing. Do you have anything else?

I play console games on my monitor. And no, I'm just pointing out it's harder to see lack of AA from further distances. I've read that some can't see jaggies in Uncharted 2, yet I've seen plenty up close on my 1080p monitor.

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#62 Demonjoe93
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I wish there wasn't regenerative health in this game. I hate that stuff.

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#63 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Game looks awesome on console! Picking this up for either 360 or PS3

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I play console games on my monitor. And no, I'm just pointing out it's harder to see lack of AA from further distances. I've read that some can't see jaggies in Uncharted 2, yet I've seen plenty up close on my 1080p monitor.

mitu123

UC2 is a jag-fest. I don't know how people couldn't see it :?

I wish there wasn't regenerative health in this game. I hate that stuff.

Demonjoe93

What? Really? Hope someone makes a mod to change that to health packs. I hate regenerating health.

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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I play console games on my monitor. And no, I'm just pointing out it's harder to see lack of AA from further distances. I've read that some can't see jaggies in Uncharted 2, yet I've seen plenty up close on my 1080p monitor.

ChubbyGuy40

UC2 is a jag-fest. I don't know how people couldn't see it :?

I wish there wasn't regenerative health in this game. I hate that stuff.

Demonjoe93

What? Really? Hope someone makes a mod to change that to health packs. I hate regenerating health.

I think there's regenerative health. I didn't see a health meter and we he got shot the redness on the corners of the screen went away once he got behind something.

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#66 pelvist
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Looks good for consoles, but no way is that 60 fps.

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#67 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Looks good for consoles, but no way is that 60 fps.

pelvist
Thats because of the video I guess. Rage's big selling point pretty much is 60fps on consoles so I don't think the finished product will go without it
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#68 Zensword
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I used to be excited for Rage but so far I dont see any special about Rage.

Graphics: Look great but not better than other games like Gears, Uncharted 3 ...

Gunplay is OK.

The environment look very boring.

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#69 Inconsistancy
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I used to be excited for Rage but so far I dont see any special about Rage.

Graphics: Look great but not better than other games like Gears, Uncharted 3 ...

Gunplay is OK.

The environment look very boring.

Zensword

It shouldn't look as good as Gears/UC... those games have a whole 16.3ms longer to render each frame, gives them more time for more crap...

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#70 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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Looks good for consoles, but no way is that 60 fps.

pelvist
Youtube videos only go to 30fps. so you wouldn't be able to tell either way.
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#71 Domin8ters
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wow looks good for a console game running at 60fps
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Love it. First day. PS3. If Carmack didn't use AA on a 360, then the game looks better without it. 2xAA on 360 is "free" AA makes things blurry to keep it from looking jaggy. It's not always a good thing. Usually a tool of unskilled developers who use AA as a crutch, but sometimes used properly it can make a game look better. It's not automatic "AA looks better" no, not at all. Also who are you kidding, you'll never use the mod tool. Have fun with the DRM, hardware compatibility charts and being forced to use Windows, I'll take lower rez and "it just works" thanks.
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Love it. First day. PS3. If Carmack didn't use AA on a 360, then the game looks better without it. 2xAA on 360 is "free" AA makes things blurry to keep it from looking jaggy. It's not always a good thing. Usually a tool of unskilled developers who use AA as a crutch, but sometimes used properly it can make a game look better. It's not automatic "AA looks better" no, not at all. Also who are you kidding, you'll never use the mod tool. Have fun with the DRM, hardware compatibility charts and being forced to use Windows, I'll take lower rez and "it just works" thanks.ZombieKiller7

Its free only at sub hd resolution,which RAGE ain't.

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#74 tubbyc
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Looks nice and I really like the music and atmosphere. Damn, too many good games to play.

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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]Love it. First day. PS3. If Carmack didn't use AA on a 360, then the game looks better without it. 2xAA on 360 is "free" AA makes things blurry to keep it from looking jaggy. It's not always a good thing. Usually a tool of unskilled developers who use AA as a crutch, but sometimes used properly it can make a game look better. It's not automatic "AA looks better" no, not at all. Also who are you kidding, you'll never use the mod tool. Have fun with the DRM, hardware compatibility charts and being forced to use Windows, I'll take lower rez and "it just works" thanks.Bus-A-Bus

Its free only at sub hd resolution,which RAGE ain't.

Is that true? Then I guess he just really really wanted 60 frames a sec. Game looks damn nice, better than even the "graphics king" photos that get thrown around here.
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]Love it. First day. PS3. If Carmack didn't use AA on a 360, then the game looks better without it. 2xAA on 360 is "free" AA makes things blurry to keep it from looking jaggy. It's not always a good thing. Usually a tool of unskilled developers who use AA as a crutch, but sometimes used properly it can make a game look better. It's not automatic "AA looks better" no, not at all. Also who are you kidding, you'll never use the mod tool. Have fun with the DRM, hardware compatibility charts and being forced to use Windows, I'll take lower rez and "it just works" thanks.ZombieKiller7

Its free only at sub hd resolution,which RAGE ain't.

Is that true? Then I guess he just really really wanted 60 frames a sec. Game looks damn nice, better than even the "graphics king" photos that get thrown around here.

360 eDRAM has 10 megs,you have to fit frame buffer in it,LOWEST possible in this case is solely a frame(be it 800x600,720p or whatever) and that frame(if its 720p) will take 7 megs of those 10.If you include 2xMSAA that will mean frame buffer is 14 megs(2xMSAA + 720p).Thats more than 10 megs so developers have to devide it in tiles meaning some geometry will be processed twice,thus having performance impact(2-5%).

So,no its not free.Its better to include FXAA than go for MSAA,especially in deferred engines which have 20 megs frame buffers(Crysis 2,KZ2/3,GTA IV,UC2 etc.).

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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Its free only at sub hd resolution,which RAGE ain't.

Bus-A-Bus

Is that true? Then I guess he just really really wanted 60 frames a sec. Game looks damn nice, better than even the "graphics king" photos that get thrown around here.

360 eDRAM has 10 megs,you have to fit frame buffer in it,LOWEST possible in this case is solely a frame(be it 800x600,720p or whatever) and that frame(if its 720p) will take 7 megs of those 10.If you include 2xMSAA that will mean frame buffer is 14 megs(2xMSAA + 720p).Thats more than 10 megs so developers have to devide it in tiles meaning some geometry will be processed twice,thus having performance impact(2-5%).

So,no its not free.Its better to include FXAA than go for MSAA,especially in deferred engines which have 20 megs frame buffers(Crysis 2,KZ2/3,GTA IV,UC2 etc.).

Ok. Respect. So what version you getting?
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#78 Bus-A-Bus
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"] Is that true? Then I guess he just really really wanted 60 frames a sec. Game looks damn nice, better than even the "graphics king" photos that get thrown around here.ZombieKiller7

360 eDRAM has 10 megs,you have to fit frame buffer in it,LOWEST possible in this case is solely a frame(be it 800x600,720p or whatever) and that frame(if its 720p) will take 7 megs of those 10.If you include 2xMSAA that will mean frame buffer is 14 megs(2xMSAA + 720p).Thats more than 10 megs so developers have to devide it in tiles meaning some geometry will be processed twice,thus having performance impact(2-5%).

So,no its not free.Its better to include FXAA than go for MSAA,especially in deferred engines which have 20 megs frame buffers(Crysis 2,KZ2/3,GTA IV,UC2 etc.).

Ok. Respect. So what version you getting?

Gonna pick up PC and 360 version.Friend is going for PS3 version so I'm going to check that out too.You?

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Some screenshots from PAX

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WTF it looks just like bulletstorm, nothing special IMHO. I wished more games would copy Resistance 3s atmphosfere :/Solid_Tango
Bland washed out puke color?
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

UC2 is a jag-fest. I don't know how people couldn't see it :?

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

I wish there wasn't regenerative health in this game. I hate that stuff.

Demonjoe93

What? Really? Hope someone makes a mod to change that to health packs. I hate regenerating health.

I think there's regenerative health. I didn't see a health meter and we he got shot the redness on the corners of the screen went away once he got behind something.

It uses health packs but you have the option to choose regen health instead when you start your game, they wanted to appeal to everyone.
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#82 kalipekona
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Rage does indeed look very nice. Most of the jaggies you guys are seeing is due to some kind of scaling issue. It doesn't look that bad in most of the videos so I don't know why the game would suddenly have way more aliasing than before.

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#83 Elann2008
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As far as the console version goes, this is going to be a repeat of Killzone "jaggies" 3. Either way, it's an eye-sore. Rage, as a game should be great though. I'll have to get the PC version.

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#84 Doolz2024
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Too bad there were no button prompts onscreen. I really wanna know which console this was running on.
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#85 BIOKILLER123
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Looks good. Colour me interested.

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#86 sukraj
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Day one buy.

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#87 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I'm not impressed with Rage.Zensword

You and me both. The graphics mean nothing because the gameplay looks rather run of the mill and dull. It looks like it could get repetitive and boring very fast. Kind of like how Borderlands did. Shame really.

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#88 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Too bad there were no button prompts onscreen. I really wanna know which console this was running on.Doolz2024

My guess is that the console versions will be VERY similar to each other. Only niggly things like a small shadow difference (360 usually has better)