Rainbow Six Siege: No Single-Player Story.

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#1 PikachuDude860
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http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Rainbow-Six-Siege-Doesn-t-Have-Single-Player-Story-88167.html

http://whatculture.com/gaming/rainbow-six-siege-confirmed-to-have-no-single-player-story.php

What is it with modern-day shooters going down the ‘no story’ route?

Titanfall, Evolve, Star Wars Battlefront – now Ubisoft’s latest franchise-resurrecting Rainbow Six has just confirmed it’ll be running with a heavy focus on essentially being multiplayer-only. Sure you have access to offline and ‘single player content’ in the form of maps filled with bots, but unlike the cancelled R6: Patriots that looked to be delivering a sold story, Siege will have no such thing.

Speaking at EGX 2015, Scott Mitchell, Art Director mentioned,

“There is no story mode per se. You go through training, where you get to experience different operators and their devices. You can play against enemy AI in co-op through all the maps. You can customise matches, so that’s what we’re offering on the single-player side of things”

adding,

“It’s a pretty good training ground, and on top or that you’re unlocking the same content as you would playing in PvP. You’re still gaining stars, reknown points, and new operatives”

Immediately for many fans of Rainbow Six’s older games, this will be a killing blow. It’s all well and good offering up a bevy of maps (11 so far, to be exact) that’ll be downloadable for free going forward, but anyone not up for getting stuck into the online portion of things will be thoroughly put off that the dedicated single player part of the experience is essentially just a training ground.

Ubisoft has issued a statement since the story broke that says there will be some activities for solo players:

The creative vision for Rainbow Six Siege has always been strongly focused on a compelling cooperative and multiplayer experience. The game supports solo play when playing Terrorist Hunt offline & online and we will provide further details on single-player content in the near future.

So yet another online only shooter with no offline single player story mode....For $60...Plus DLC. Yeah, no. Screw you Ubi. No thanks.

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#2  Edited By PikachuDude860
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Also, So I hear, the beta is very....Broken?

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#3 JangoWuzHere
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I don't have any problems with not having a single player campaign. You are buying this game for the multiplayer, anyone doing so for other reasons is a complete fool.

The beta isn't broken, the servers are a little crooked, but the game itself is fine. People should always wait for reviews and general word of month before purchasing any game. If the game is busted on release, and you buy it, that's your own fault.

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#4 xxyetixx
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I haven't played single player/story modes on FPS since COD4: Modern Warfare, and Rainbow Six Vegas 1 last FPS games I've played the story until completion.

So no loss for me!

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#5 mems_1224
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Don't care, that multi player is fucking great and I'd rather have multi player and coop than a story mode

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#6 mems_1224
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@pikachudude860: since Tuesday I have played a shit ton of matches. I'm already like level 12-14 in the beta. They've said all week that they're stress testing their servers and to expect connection issues but for the most part it's perfect when you actually get into a game.

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#7 PikachuDude860
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@mems_1224: @xxyetixx: @JangoWuzHere:

If the Beta is working great, then that's wonderful.

However, a game that basically just a multiplayer mode only, should NOT be $60. Not saying a story mode should be shoe horned in, but at least add some worthwhile offline content.

If the SP modes come later, then don't charge $60 for just the multiplayer.

....Just my two cents.

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#8 mems_1224
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@pikachudude860: why not? They sell single player only games that are 5-15 hours for $60. I've already put that much time intona beta.

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#9 lundy86_4  Online
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I'm all for this not having a SP. With games like this, they're going to feel tacked on, a la BF4. Whilst not inherently bad, they are lackluster. Now, this game really shines, as we've not had much in the way of smaller/strategy oriented major MP FPS in a while. It reminds me of R6: Vegas, and I put a ton of time into that.

As for stability issues, yup... They're shit. It's a beta though, so it's not totally out of left field. Once you're in a game, it's usually stable.

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#10 clyde46
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Still requires that god awful Uplay bollocks.

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#11 DaVillain  Moderator
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When it comes to any FPS games, I always play Campaigns first and foremost, but however if it's not included in the game, I'll need to dig up more info. before I buy a shooter game with no single player. Titanfall was okay, Destiny lack a campaign but the gameplay made up for it. That said, I wasn't interested in Rainbow Six anyway.

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#12 foxhound_fox
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No interest now.

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#13  Edited By SonySoldier-_-
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Shooters usually turn out better anyway when developers focus on one thing they could do best instead of being the jack of all trades and the master of none.

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#14 JigglyWiggly_
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That's like complaining cs:go has no story, nobody cares.

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#15  Edited By lamprey263
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I don't mind games focusing entirely on MP. Titanfall was awesome, Left 4 Dead games are unofficially MP only (SP is a joke) and they too were off the hook, and BF and COD games are only really worth it for MP anyways. Why are we afraid to admit some games are better MP games without tacked on SP campaigns dragging MP down, and some games are better SP games without tacked on worthless MP dragging it down. That's the big mistake last gen IMO with people needlessly adding MP and ruining SP focuses games because crying dipshit 12 year old cried and cried and cried until developers appeased them so their moms can buy them the game used. Let's not let SP ruin our MP focused games in the same fashion.

As for Rainbow Six Siege, I care not that it's an MP focused game, that was obvious since it was first showed. My worry is whether it'll be good.

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#16 TheShadowLord07
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Fighting or Racing games don't usually have a single player, so I don't understand why do all fps somehow singler player. I played both story campaigns for Vegas 1 & 2(enjoy the first a little bit more), but I'm not really upset by the news.

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#17  Edited By finalfantasy94
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As long as it has missions in single player IDC if it has an actual plot. Let me take down a crack den or slezy strip club or something. I dont want just basic training.

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#18 glez13  Online
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@TheShadowLord07 said:

Fighting or Racing games don't usually have a single player, so I don't understand why do all fps somehow singler player. I played both story campaigns for Vegas 1 & 2(enjoy the first a little bit more), but I'm not really upset by the news.

WUT?!

What fighting or racing games don't have single player?

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#19 drinkerofjuice
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That's fine. The game is designed for multiplayer purposes after all. I just hope they make it count.

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#20  Edited By TheShadowLord07
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@glez13 said:
@TheShadowLord07 said:

Fighting or Racing games don't usually have a single player, so I don't understand why do all fps somehow singler player. I played both story campaigns for Vegas 1 & 2(enjoy the first a little bit more), but I'm not really upset by the news.

WUT?!

What fighting or racing games don't have single player?

Street Fighter, Forza perhaps? We're talking about single player story modes right? Well fps like battlefront and R6: Siege don't have story does but you can shoot bots though by yourself.

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#21  Edited By remiks00
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I never played COD nor BF's campaigns. Always played purely for the multiplayer. I loved Titanfall, Left4Dead, Planetside and Evolve. Multiplayer only games do not bother me. The problem I have with games like Evolve (other than the dumb ass DLC scam) is the price. These "multiplayer only" FPS games' prices need to be no higher than $39.99 (or lower). That would ease a lot of the backlash that it's getting. Or, they need to have a shit load of content available for the standard price.

On the flipside, I feel that games like Halo or the like, NEED to have a campaign, it would just feel weird as shit without it. Can't really explain it.

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#22 gago-gago
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Not every game needs single player and not every game needs multiplayer, I think this is what gamers and developers realized. But if it's a shooting game, I think it should at least have some sort of player vs bots, and Rainbow 6 has this option. Been playing solo Terrorist Hunt in the beta, leveling up and unlocking things then go in multiplayer matches with what I've unlocked. So having a bot option for a multiplayer only game would get me more interested especially if it's fun to play.

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#23 mems_1224
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@finalfantasy94: it has single player

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#24 oflow
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i dont understand why carebears keep asking for pve in pvp games. this is a pvp game

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#25 mems_1224
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@oflow: because it has rainbow six in the name. People don't want change or new ideas with things they know. Thats why so many fucking franchises get stale.

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#27 lundy86_4  Online
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@bussinrounds: Have you played the beta?

Also, making maps isn't easy. Balance is a bitch, and R6 Siege does pretty well in that regard.

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#29 oflow
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@mems_1224: i can understand that. but they should have known when they changed the game from Patriots to Seige that its changing directions.

I guess purists will say its not a R6 game without pve but meh. I like pvp.

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#30  Edited By NyaDC
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Dafuq is this...

"The PC edition's resolution, meanwhile, will fluctuate between 720p and 1080p depending on how beefy your rig is."

wat

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#31  Edited By soulitane
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God dammit, gamers are idiots.

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#32 Heil68
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Heard the beta wasn't that good. I usually dont buy/play MP only games, so it looks like im not buying it,

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#34 Salt_The_Fries
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@soulitane: Why?

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#35  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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Many games did this in the passed.

At least there wasn't a real story mode of sorts. Tribes, UT2K4, Quake 3 Arena (from what I remember).

LoL, Dota 2 and many other games do it now. It's not a big deal if the game is centered around multiplayer.

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#36 Ribstaylor1
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If there isn't a single player mode, 11 maps is far far too little. I wouldn't be willing to buy any multiplayer only tittle knowing that 11 maps is all there was to look forward too until they add DLC which I'm not going to buy simply due to it probably being ridiculously expensive.

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#37 soulitane
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

@soulitane: Why?

Because all they seem to do is bitch about something. For this, instead of putting in a half assed single player, they went full multiplayer and people complain. For BF, they add in a shitty SP and people question why they throw resources at a SP rather than focussing on MP. Basically people bitch about every little thing.

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#38 freedomfreak
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Kind of expected this. Especially with the whole premise of the game. What would the campaign be? Barging into buildings with some weak AI joining you in the fight for freedom?

Nah.

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No campaign no buy...

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#40 BigKingCheese
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Massive blunder. What made the original Rainbow Six games so good were their tight, suspenseful single player campaigns. Without them RS may as well be just another Titanshit or Evolve. I wish Patriots had never been cancelled.

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#41 glez13  Online
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@soulitane said:
@Salt_The_Fries said:

@soulitane: Why?

Because all they seem to do is bitch about something. For this, instead of putting in a half assed single player, they went full multiplayer and people complain. For BF, they add in a shitty SP and people question why they throw resources at a SP rather than focussing on MP. Basically people bitch about every little thing.

I don't see the problem with that, unless it's the same people saying both.

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#42 Rongor
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I hate Uplay even more.

Campaign is also a must for me!

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#43  Edited By xxyetixx
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@pikachudude860: when they sell games like "the order" and "until dawn" for $60. Why shouldn't they sell games that are multiplayer only at the same price?

If the game is actually good your gonna get way more hours playing a game online than you ever will out of some of these single player only games.

Now where I will agree with you would be Call of Duty. As I hear black ops 3 will Not include a campaign on PS3 or 360. That should be cheaper. Activision imo should give people the option and sell COD single player and multiplayer separately and sell the multiplayer only side of the game for $60 and that includes all DLC. If you want to purchase the single player side of the game they should sell it $30 or $40. Not make me pay extra for the multiplayer content I want and include a single player campaign with the game I couldn't care less about.

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#44 speedfog
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I'm having the most fun these days that don't include the single player story mode. Every resource goes into the multiplayer.

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#45 Wiiboxstation
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Ubisoft. Lol.

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#46 Bigboi500
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Great. Another game I will totally ignore now.

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#47 jg4xchamp
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If it's a good mp why does it need a single player mode?

It astounds me that the plebs, the frauds, the dimwits can act like it's totally cool if a game is single player only, but a game goes mp only and then there is every fucking excuse in the book. I don't enjoy tacked on mp, but I also don't care for single player games that barely have any effort put into them. Titanfall was a good game without one, and the whole "well it died in a few months"...a single player wouldn't have fixed that. Likewise Halo 4 had a single player that was in line with the rest of the Halo games, that game died, and guess why?

Evolve's issues were entirely DLC, and Battlefront was always a multiplayer game. The thing people call campaigns in those old games weren't fucking campaigns to begin with.

If you've ever felt that it's totally fine that games go SP, and that they shouldn't tack on MP because it cuts into SP resources, don't be a hypocrite now and get asshurt over a game being mp only. You should at least on some level respect that a dev knew what their true bread winner was, and rolled with that instead. That said, this game will probably blow chunks.

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#48 mems_1224
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@jg4xchamp said:

If it's a good mp why does it need a single player mode?

It astounds me that the plebs, the frauds, the dimwits can act like it's totally cool if a game is single player only, but a game goes mp only and then there is every fucking excuse in the book. I don't enjoy tacked on mp, but I also don't care for single player games that barely have any effort put into them. Titanfall was a good game without one, and the whole "well it died in a few months"...a single player wouldn't have fixed that. Likewise Halo 4 had a single player that was in line with the rest of the Halo games, that game died, and guess why?

Evolve's issues were entirely DLC, and Battlefront was always a multiplayer game. The thing people call campaigns in those old games weren't fucking campaigns to begin with.

If you've ever felt that it's totally fine that games go SP, and that they shouldn't tack on MP because it cuts into SP resources, don't be a hypocrite now and get asshurt over a game being mp only. You should at least on some level respect that a dev knew what their true bread winner was, and rolled with that instead. That said, this game will probably blow chunks.

but...but i want to play multiplayer games with horrible bot AI because im scared to play against real people!

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#49 blangenakker
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Totally fine with me. But will there be enough at launch? Probably not, like always.

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#50 LostProphetFLCL
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Just care about the MP here. When the beta has been functional, the MP has been absolutely top-notch. Been having a blast with the beta this weekend and it essentially sealed my purchase.