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#1 Radeon_X1950XTX
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please review this thread

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25379428&msg_id=284119231#3

as i said before cell is limited to 256, now cows may say BUH GPU CAN WRITE ON CELLS BANK :cry: thats true, with a cost of bandwidth, making have performance isssues, developers try to avoid it,

cell can only write on 256, simple, which means ps3 has 256 of ram. 360 canot only do 50%-50% for cpu and gpu, but it can do limitless ways, such as 30%-70%or 70%-30%, with the same performance cost. ps3 does have faster ram, but that speed will be useless when the ram is in overload,making it have to use something called Virtual memory, and i have expierienced this, its really bad especailly during gameplay,

thus, 360 ram can be used in many different ways, ps3 can only use 256 for system(CELL) 256 for gpu(RSX), if one of these banks dont have enough ram for a specific task, then ps3 will suffer greatly while 360 can be something like   256-256 or  300-212 or 212-300..... in so many differnt ways that has the exact same performance with eachother,

respond to that cows,

p.s dont forget the 10mb devoted to xenos, which allows for aa and hdr, with no performance costs, and no bandwidth on the ram pool which happens on ps3.

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#2 Radeon_X1950XTX
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cows cant respond?
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#3 ssjlv4nappa
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would it be fair to say that you are biased towares 360 of the two and therefore me choosing which would be better based on your post would be foolish, because it is a biased account of the values.
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cows cant respond?Radeon_X1950XTX

No you are just BORING and you don't know what you are talking about. It's like trying to explain to 5 year old

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would it be fair to say that you are biased towares 360 of the two and therefore me choosing which would be better based on your post would be foolish, because it is a biased account of the values.ssjlv4nappa
You may see it as biased, but it is also a true telling of the facts. The Xbox 360 has been told time and again from developers that the RAM is a huge plus, and far easier to work with then the PS3 RAM.
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If devs. tried to program GPU specific functions on the 360's GPU then that wouldn't work either. The PS3 also has higher bandwith. The PS3 has 512MBs 256MB system and then XDR. 
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[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]cows cant respond?Vojkan80001

No you are just BORING and you don't know what you are talking about. It's like trying to explain to 5 year old

5 year old out smarting you, wow please respond, plz make a logical post, teach me, so i can own you once more
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#9 Radeon_X1950XTX
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If devs. tried to program GPU specific functions on the 360's GPU then that wouldn't work either. The PS3 also has higher bandwith. The PS3 has 512MBs 256MB system and then XDR. espoac
XDR IS THE STSTEM RAM LOL GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!, and your right, ps3 doesnt have to share bandwidth between cpu, and gpu, but remember 10embedded ram will relief the cost of HDR,and aa, plus if graphics, or system data exeeds one of the banks in the ps3, it will suffer alot
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#10 ssjlv4nappa
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[QUOTE="Vojkan80001"]

[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]cows cant respond?Radeon_X1950XTX

No you are just BORING and you don't know what you are talking about. It's like trying to explain to 5 year old

5 year old out smarting you, wow please respond, plz make a logical post, teach me, so i can own you once more



Haha, look at him 'ima own you' on a forum, own me? how exactly. Think I fear your text based vengance... no i dont think so.
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Its not rocket science folks, well informed gamers know Sony has always developed uber high powered CPUs with its Playstation consoles and choked the life (and full potential) out of them with the lack of RAM....Although the consoles were very successful, in many cases it forced devs to either chop up a perfectly good game to try to run on the console or look towards the competition.

Game On...
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Its not rocket science folks, well informed gamers know Sony has always developed uber high powered CPUs with its Playstation consoles and choked the life (and full potential) out of them with the lack of RAM....Although the consoles were very successful, in many cases it forced devs to either chop up a perfectly good game to try to run on the console or look towards the competition.

Game On...
FatalDomain
yes, sony makes crazy processor for the times, but they always come to huge bottlenecks, ps3 is an unbalanced system, 360 is more of a balanced system
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[QUOTE="ssjlv4nappa"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="Vojkan80001"]

[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]cows cant respond?Radeon_X1950XTX

No you are just BORING and you don't know what you are talking about. It's like trying to explain to 5 year old

5 year old out smarting you, wow please respond, plz make a logical post, teach me, so i can own you once more



Haha, look at him 'ima own you' on a forum, own me? how exactly. Think I fear your text based vengance... no i dont think so.

ill own you by making you look like a fool, which seems you are one by saying im a 5 year old, please this is about ram disscuse about it, if you cant the qft nooblet... also you make it obvious that you care, since you keep coming back posting



I keep coming back to enjoy your enchanting company.
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[QUOTE="FatalDomain"]Its not rocket science folks, well informed gamers know Sony has always developed uber high powered CPUs with its Playstation consoles and choked the life (and full potential) out of them with the lack of RAM....Although the consoles were very successful, in many cases it forced devs to either chop up a perfectly good game to try to run on the console or look towards the competition.

Game On...
Radeon_X1950XTX
yes, sony makes crazy processor for the times, but they always come to huge bottlenecks, ps3 is an unbalanced system, 360 is more of a balanced system



Well buy a 360 then, and stop posting these stupid topics.
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please review this thread

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25379428&msg_id=284119231#3

as i said before cell is limited to 256, now cows may say BUH GPU CAN WRITE ON CELLS BANK :cry: thats true, with a cost of bandwidth, making have performance isssues, developers try to avoid it,

cell can only write on 256, simple, which means ps3 has 256 of ram. 360 canot only do 50%-50% for cpu and gpu, but it can do limitless ways, such as 30%-70%or 70%-30%, with the same performance cost. ps3 does have faster ram, but that speed will be useless when the ram is in overload,making it have to use something called Virtual memory, and i have expierienced this, its really bad especailly during gameplay,

thus, 360 ram can be used in many different ways, ps3 can only use 256 for system(CELL) 256 for gpu(RSX), if one of these banks dont have enough ram for a specific task, then ps3 will suffer greatly while 360 can be something like   256-256 or  300-212 or 212-300..... in so many differnt ways that has the exact same performance with eachother,

respond to that cows,

p.s dont forget the 10mb devoted to xenos, which allows for aa and hdr, with no performance costs, and no bandwidth on the ram pool which happens on ps3.

Radeon_X1950XTX

So why would anyone even care about the RAM.............do you really think when an average person or gamer for that matter goes to buy a console the first thing that runs across there mind is how much RAM the console HAS!!!

Stop trying to act like you are smarter than everyone else...........................NO ONE CARES!!!

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[QUOTE="espoac"]If devs. tried to program GPU specific functions on the 360's GPU then that wouldn't work either. The PS3 also has higher bandwith. The PS3 has 512MBs 256MB system and then XDR. Radeon_X1950XTX
XDR IS THE STSTEM RAM LOL GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!, and your right, ps3 doesnt have to share bandwidth between cpu, and gpu, but remember 10embedded ram will relief the cost of HDR,and aa, plus if graphics, or system data exeeds one of the banks in the ps3, it will suffer alot



XDR is the CPU memory, you've pwned yourself
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#21 Radeon_X1950XTX
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XDR,CPU,SYSTEM IS ALL THE SAME THING LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /counter
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#22 Radeon_X1950XTX
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XDR,CPU,SYSTEM IS ALL THE SAME THING LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /counterRadeon_X1950XTX
(ram wise sorry)
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#23 Radeon_X1950XTX
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[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="espoac"]If devs. tried to program GPU specific functions on the 360's GPU then that wouldn't work either. The PS3 also has higher bandwith. The PS3 has 512MBs 256MB system and then XDR. milsvaard
XDR IS THE STSTEM RAM LOL GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!, and your right, ps3 doesnt have to share bandwidth between cpu, and gpu, but remember 10embedded ram will relief the cost of HDR,and aa, plus if graphics, or system data exeeds one of the banks in the ps3, it will suffer alot



XDR is the CPU memory, you've pwned yourself

let me fix this XDR-used for the cpu cpu memory-used on XDR system memory - is XDR
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[QUOTE="ssjlv4nappa"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="ssjlv4nappa"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="Vojkan80001"]

[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]cows cant respond?Radeon_X1950XTX

No you are just BORING and you don't know what you are talking about. It's like trying to explain to 5 year old

5 year old out smarting you, wow please respond, plz make a logical post, teach me, so i can own you once more



Haha, look at him 'ima own you' on a forum, own me? how exactly. Think I fear your text based vengance... no i dont think so.

ill own you by making you look like a fool, which seems you are one by saying im a 5 year old, please this is about ram disscuse about it, if you cant the qft nooblet... also you make it obvious that you care, since you keep coming back posting



I keep coming back to enjoy your enchanting company.

ok, now discuss about ram, or is it a difficult topic for you? also didnt you say i was just BORING? now your enjoying it? self-owned noob....self-owned



No Vojkan80001 said you were boring, I said you were enchanting  there is a difference. Perhaps you should learn to deal with basic things first, like correctly reading a forum, or is it too difficult for you?  Then i might have a discussion with you about complicated things like ram. Ya know one step at a time.
 
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[QUOTE="Ericvon71"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]please review this thread

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25379428&msg_id=284119231#3

as i said before cell is limited to 256, now cows may say BUH GPU CAN WRITE ON CELLS BANK :cry: thats true, with a cost of bandwidth, making have performance isssues, developers try to avoid it,

cell can only write on 256, simple, which means ps3 has 256 of ram. 360 canot only do 50%-50% for cpu and gpu, but it can do limitless ways, such as 30%-70%or 70%-30%, with the same performance cost. ps3 does have faster ram, but that speed will be useless when the ram is in overload,making it have to use something called Virtual memory, and i have expierienced this, its really bad especailly during gameplay,

thus, 360 ram can be used in many different ways, ps3 can only use 256 for system(CELL) 256 for gpu(RSX), if one of these banks dont have enough ram for a specific task, then ps3 will suffer greatly while 360 can be something like   256-256 or  300-212 or 212-300..... in so many differnt ways that has the exact same performance with eachother,

respond to that cows,

p.s dont forget the 10mb devoted to xenos, which allows for aa and hdr, with no performance costs, and no bandwidth on the ram pool which happens on ps3.

Radeon_X1950XTX

So why would anyone even care about the RAM.............do you really think when an average person or gamer for that matter goes to buy a console the first thing that runs across there mind is how much RAM the console HAS!!!

Stop trying to act like you are smarter than everyone else...........................NO ONE CARES!!!

RAM is one of the MOST IMPORTANT resources that games use, ps3 is hyped about its POWER, and wher will that power be if thers so little ram? ram is a HUGE plus in games, i have expierienced this.... again, if no one cares take i look at that thread i posted, and if know one cares why did you bother on clicking on this thread, your pathetic,

That is funny from someone who can't even use spell check...........LOL

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[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]please review this thread

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25379428&msg_id=284119231#3

as i said before cell is limited to 256, now cows may say BUH GPU CAN WRITE ON CELLS BANK :cry: thats true, with a cost of bandwidth, making have performance isssues, developers try to avoid it,

cell can only write on 256, simple, which means ps3 has 256 of ram. 360 canot only do 50%-50% for cpu and gpu, but it can do limitless ways, such as 30%-70%or 70%-30%, with the same performance cost. ps3 does have faster ram, but that speed will be useless when the ram is in overload,making it have to use something called Virtual memory, and i have expierienced this, its really bad especailly during gameplay,

thus, 360 ram can be used in many different ways, ps3 can only use 256 for system(CELL) 256 for gpu(RSX), if one of these banks dont have enough ram for a specific task, then ps3 will suffer greatly while 360 can be something like 256-256 or 300-212 or 212-300..... in so many differnt ways that has the exact same performance with eachother,

respond to that cows,

p.s dont forget the 10mb devoted to xenos, which allows for aa and hdr, with no performance costs, and no bandwidth on the ram pool which happens on ps3.

Ericvon71

So why would anyone even care about the RAM.............do you really think when an average person or gamer for that matter goes to buy a console the first thing that runs across there mind is how much RAM the console HAS!!!

Stop trying to act like you are smarter than everyone else...........................NO ONE CARES!!!

Its called being a informed consumer....simple as that

-Would you buy a car with the frame and interior of a Porsche with the engine of a Toyota?

-Would you buy a PC with a P4 cpu, blu-ray burner, RSX equivalent gpu, with 256 of RAM running Windows 98?

Of course you wouldnt because you wouldnt buy a product based on blind faith...but for some reason all logic thrown out of the window when it come to the Sony Playstation. Sony and kick, spit, disrespect and completely hustle its customers and they turn around and ask for seconds.....very strange!!!

Game On....

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[QUOTE="Ericvon71"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]please review this thread

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25379428&msg_id=284119231#3

as i said before cell is limited to 256, now cows may say BUH GPU CAN WRITE ON CELLS BANK :cry: thats true, with a cost of bandwidth, making have performance isssues, developers try to avoid it,

cell can only write on 256, simple, which means ps3 has 256 of ram. 360 canot only do 50%-50% for cpu and gpu, but it can do limitless ways, such as 30%-70%or 70%-30%, with the same performance cost. ps3 does have faster ram, but that speed will be useless when the ram is in overload,making it have to use something called Virtual memory, and i have expierienced this, its really bad especailly during gameplay,

thus, 360 ram can be used in many different ways, ps3 can only use 256 for system(CELL) 256 for gpu(RSX), if one of these banks dont have enough ram for a specific task, then ps3 will suffer greatly while 360 can be something like 256-256 or 300-212 or 212-300..... in so many differnt ways that has the exact same performance with eachother,

respond to that cows,

p.s dont forget the 10mb devoted to xenos, which allows for aa and hdr, with no performance costs, and no bandwidth on the ram pool which happens on ps3.

FatalDomain

So why would anyone even care about the RAM.............do you really think when an average person or gamer for that matter goes to buy a console the first thing that runs across there mind is how much RAM the console HAS!!!

Stop trying to act like you are smarter than everyone else...........................NO ONE CARES!!!

Its called being a informed consumer....simple as that

-Would you buy a car with the frame and interior of a Porsche with the engine of a Toyota?

-Would you buy a PC with a P4 cpu, blu-ray burner, RSX equivalent gpu, with 256 of RAM running Windows 98?

Of course you wouldnt because you wouldnt buy a product based on blind faith...but for some reason all logic thrown out of the window when it come to the Sony Playstation. Sony and kick, spit, disrespect and completely hustle its customers and they turn around and ask for seconds.....very strange!!!

Game On....



And by contrast Microsoft are paragons of virtue with 100% intelligent balanced customers... gimme a break there all as bad as eachother.
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[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]please review this thread

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25379428&msg_id=284119231#3

as i said before cell is limited to 256, now cows may say BUH GPU CAN WRITE ON CELLS BANK :cry: thats true, with a cost of bandwidth, making have performance isssues, developers try to avoid it,

cell can only write on 256, simple, which means ps3 has 256 of ram. 360 canot only do 50%-50% for cpu and gpu, but it can do limitless ways, such as 30%-70%or 70%-30%, with the same performance cost. ps3 does have faster ram, but that speed will be useless when the ram is in overload,making it have to use something called Virtual memory, and i have expierienced this, its really bad especailly during gameplay,

thus, 360 ram can be used in many different ways, ps3 can only use 256 for system(CELL) 256 for gpu(RSX), if one of these banks dont have enough ram for a specific task, then ps3 will suffer greatly while 360 can be something like 256-256 or 300-212 or 212-300..... in so many differnt ways that has the exact same performance with eachother,

respond to that cows,

p.s dont forget the 10mb devoted to xenos, which allows for aa and hdr, with no performance costs, and no bandwidth on the ram pool which happens on ps3.

Ericvon71

So why would anyone even care about the RAM.............do you really think when an average person or gamer for that matter goes to buy a console the first thing that runs across there mind is how much RAM the console HAS!!!

Stop trying to act like you are smarter than everyone else...........................NO ONE CARES!!!

Actually, many gamers care these days. They know that modern PCs usually carry at least 1GB of memory. And that's just the system memory. Most modern video cards have at least 256MB of memory on board--usually more. Now, before you say "OS overhead", the amounts of RAM involved are large enough that, even after subtracting OS overhead, most decent gaming PCs still have a lot more memory than the consoles. Knowing that, and knowing that upcoming modern games like Crysis will just about choke out these decent gaming PCs, you have to wonder what kinds of resources will be requires for games of tomorrow. Have you heard about the MegaTexture technology being used in the upcoming Enemy Territory: Quake Wars? As the name implies, these will be giant textures, and giant textures will require lots of memory to store them.

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[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="ssjlv4nappa"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="ssjlv4nappa"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="Vojkan80001"]

[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]cows cant respond?ssjlv4nappa

No you are just BORING and you don't know what you are talking about. It's like trying to explain to 5 year old

5 year old out smarting you, wow please respond, plz make a logical post, teach me, so i can own you once more



Haha, look at him 'ima own you' on a forum, own me? how exactly. Think I fear your text based vengance... no i dont think so.

ill own you by making you look like a fool, which seems you are one by saying im a 5 year old, please this is about ram disscuse about it, if you cant the qft nooblet... also you make it obvious that you care, since you keep coming back posting



I keep coming back to enjoy your enchanting company.

ok, now discuss about ram, or is it a difficult topic for you? also didnt you say i was just BORING? now your enjoying it? self-owned noob....self-owned



No Vojkan80001 said you were boring, I said you were enchanting  there is a difference. Perhaps you should learn to deal with basic things first, like correctly reading a forum, or is it too difficult for you?  Then i might have a discussion with you about complicated things like ram. Ya know one step at a time.
 

ah, sorry about that, common mistake, now talk about ram or dont post
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[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="Ericvon71"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]please review this thread

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25379428&msg_id=284119231#3

as i said before cell is limited to 256, now cows may say BUH GPU CAN WRITE ON CELLS BANK :cry: thats true, with a cost of bandwidth, making have performance isssues, developers try to avoid it,

cell can only write on 256, simple, which means ps3 has 256 of ram. 360 canot only do 50%-50% for cpu and gpu, but it can do limitless ways, such as 30%-70%or 70%-30%, with the same performance cost. ps3 does have faster ram, but that speed will be useless when the ram is in overload,making it have to use something called Virtual memory, and i have expierienced this, its really bad especailly during gameplay,

thus, 360 ram can be used in many different ways, ps3 can only use 256 for system(CELL) 256 for gpu(RSX), if one of these banks dont have enough ram for a specific task, then ps3 will suffer greatly while 360 can be something like   256-256 or  300-212 or 212-300..... in so many differnt ways that has the exact same performance with eachother,

respond to that cows,

p.s dont forget the 10mb devoted to xenos, which allows for aa and hdr, with no performance costs, and no bandwidth on the ram pool which happens on ps3.

Ericvon71

So why would anyone even care about the RAM.............do you really think when an average person or gamer for that matter goes to buy a console the first thing that runs across there mind is how much RAM the console HAS!!!

Stop trying to act like you are smarter than everyone else...........................NO ONE CARES!!!

RAM is one of the MOST IMPORTANT resources that games use, ps3 is hyped about its POWER, and wher will that power be if thers so little ram? ram is a HUGE plus in games, i have expierienced this.... again, if no one cares take i look at that thread i posted, and if know one cares why did you bother on clicking on this thread, your pathetic,

That is funny from someone who can't even use spell check...........LOL

thats funny i dont use spell check, i use quick quote, also talk about ram, your nit picking on such little things cause you cant discuss about ram
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[QUOTE="Ericvon71"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]please review this thread

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25379428&msg_id=284119231#3

as i said before cell is limited to 256, now cows may say BUH GPU CAN WRITE ON CELLS BANK :cry: thats true, with a cost of bandwidth, making have performance isssues, developers try to avoid it,

cell can only write on 256, simple, which means ps3 has 256 of ram. 360 canot only do 50%-50% for cpu and gpu, but it can do limitless ways, such as 30%-70%or 70%-30%, with the same performance cost. ps3 does have faster ram, but that speed will be useless when the ram is in overload,making it have to use something called Virtual memory, and i have expierienced this, its really bad especailly during gameplay,

thus, 360 ram can be used in many different ways, ps3 can only use 256 for system(CELL) 256 for gpu(RSX), if one of these banks dont have enough ram for a specific task, then ps3 will suffer greatly while 360 can be something like 256-256 or 300-212 or 212-300..... in so many differnt ways that has the exact same performance with eachother,

respond to that cows,

p.s dont forget the 10mb devoted to xenos, which allows for aa and hdr, with no performance costs, and no bandwidth on the ram pool which happens on ps3.

FatalDomain

So why would anyone even care about the RAM.............do you really think when an average person or gamer for that matter goes to buy a console the first thing that runs across there mind is how much RAM the console HAS!!!

Stop trying to act like you are smarter than everyone else...........................NO ONE CARES!!!

Its called being a informed consumer....simple as that

-Would you buy a car with the frame and interior of a Porsche with the engine of a Toyota?

-Would you buy a PC with a P4 cpu, blu-ray burner, RSX equivalent gpu, with 256 of RAM running Windows 98?

Of course you wouldnt because you wouldnt buy a product based on blind faith...but for some reason all logic thrown out of the window when it come to the Sony Playstation. Sony and kick, spit, disrespect and completely hustle its customers and they turn around and ask for seconds.....very strange!!!

Game On....

pure owned!
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okay, knowone is talking about ram, cause its undeniable 360's ram is better in most aspects /thread /ownage
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[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]okay, knowone is talking about ram, cause its undeniable 360's ram is better in most aspects /thread /ownage

unless someone can come with a logical response
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[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="Vojkan80001"]

[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]cows cant respond?ssjlv4nappa

No you are just BORING and you don't know what you are talking about. It's like trying to explain to 5 year old

5 year old out smarting you, wow please respond, plz make a logical post, teach me, so i can own you once more



Haha, look at him 'ima own you' on a forum, own me? how exactly. Think I fear your text based vengance... no i dont think so.

OMG Why isn't there a post limit of 1000 on System Wars?
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[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]please review this thread

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25379428&msg_id=284119231#3

as i said before cell is limited to 256, now cows may say BUH GPU CAN WRITE ON CELLS BANK :cry: thats true, with a cost of bandwidth, making have performance isssues, developers try to avoid it,

cell can only write on 256, simple, which means ps3 has 256 of ram. 360 canot only do 50%-50% for cpu and gpu, but it can do limitless ways, such as 30%-70%or 70%-30%, with the same performance cost. ps3 does have faster ram, but that speed will be useless when the ram is in overload,making it have to use something called Virtual memory, and i have expierienced this, its really bad especailly during gameplay,

thus, 360 ram can be used in many different ways, ps3 can only use 256 for system(CELL) 256 for gpu(RSX), if one of these banks dont have enough ram for a specific task, then ps3 will suffer greatly while 360 can be something like   256-256 or  300-212 or 212-300..... in so many differnt ways that has the exact same performance with eachother,

respond to that cows,

p.s dont forget the 10mb devoted to xenos, which allows for aa and hdr, with no performance costs, and no bandwidth on the ram pool which happens on ps3.

Ericvon71

So why would anyone even care about the RAM.............do you really think when an average person or gamer for that matter goes to buy a console the first thing that runs across there mind is how much RAM the console HAS!!!

Stop trying to act like you are smarter than everyone else...........................NO ONE CARES!!!

I care about ram. Why the hell are people paying 50% more for a console that has less ram than the xbox 360. The games will not look as good on 256 as it would on 512mb of ram.
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#36 Radeon_X1950XTX
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[QUOTE="Ericvon71"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]please review this thread

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25379428&msg_id=284119231#3

as i said before cell is limited to 256, now cows may say BUH GPU CAN WRITE ON CELLS BANK :cry: thats true, with a cost of bandwidth, making have performance isssues, developers try to avoid it,

cell can only write on 256, simple, which means ps3 has 256 of ram. 360 canot only do 50%-50% for cpu and gpu, but it can do limitless ways, such as 30%-70%or 70%-30%, with the same performance cost. ps3 does have faster ram, but that speed will be useless when the ram is in overload,making it have to use something called Virtual memory, and i have expierienced this, its really bad especailly during gameplay,

thus, 360 ram can be used in many different ways, ps3 can only use 256 for system(CELL) 256 for gpu(RSX), if one of these banks dont have enough ram for a specific task, then ps3 will suffer greatly while 360 can be something like   256-256 or  300-212 or 212-300..... in so many differnt ways that has the exact same performance with eachother,

respond to that cows,

p.s dont forget the 10mb devoted to xenos, which allows for aa and hdr, with no performance costs, and no bandwidth on the ram pool which happens on ps3.

Jhung207

So why would anyone even care about the RAM.............do you really think when an average person or gamer for that matter goes to buy a console the first thing that runs across there mind is how much RAM the console HAS!!!

Stop trying to act like you are smarter than everyone else...........................NO ONE CARES!!!

I care about ram. Why the hell are people paying 50% more for a console that has less ram than the xbox 360. The games will not look as good on 256 as it would on 512mb of ram.

people are paying more for ps3, not because its a more powerfull game console, but because of blu-ray, and some people dont have HD-TV so its useless to them
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okay, knowone is talking about ram, cause its undeniable 360's ram is better in most aspects /thread /ownageRadeon_X1950XTX

you just ended your own thread there Einstein.

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[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]okay, knowone is talking about ram, cause its undeniable 360's ram is better in most aspects /thread /ownageMADVLAD123

you just ended your own thread there Einstein.

yeah, im not coming back to this thread after this post, since knowone can own me when it comes to ram 360vs ps3, ill leave this thread as a reminder the cows, about attacking ther weak point for massive damage!
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[QUOTE="FatalDomain"]Its not rocket science folks, well informed gamers know Sony has always developed uber high powered CPUs with its Playstation consoles and choked the life (and full potential) out of them with the lack of RAM....Although the consoles were very successful, in many cases it forced devs to either chop up a perfectly good game to try to run on the console or look towards the competition.

Game On...
Radeon_X1950XTX
yes, sony makes crazy processor for the times, but they always come to huge bottlenecks, ps3 is an unbalanced system, 360 is more of a balanced system

RAM limitations or not in a year from now PS3 will demonstrate what all that power can do in the right hands. Clearly devs thinking along your lines won't be able to make the most of PS3's archtecture. In fact you only have to look at Motorstorm to get a good indication of what devs will be able to do. But lets wait and see shall we...
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[QUOTE="Ericvon71"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]please review this thread

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25379428&msg_id=284119231#3

as i said before cell is limited to 256, now cows may say BUH GPU CAN WRITE ON CELLS BANK :cry: thats true, with a cost of bandwidth, making have performance isssues, developers try to avoid it,

cell can only write on 256, simple, which means ps3 has 256 of ram. 360 canot only do 50%-50% for cpu and gpu, but it can do limitless ways, such as 30%-70%or 70%-30%, with the same performance cost. ps3 does have faster ram, but that speed will be useless when the ram is in overload,making it have to use something called Virtual memory, and i have expierienced this, its really bad especailly during gameplay,

thus, 360 ram can be used in many different ways, ps3 can only use 256 for system(CELL) 256 for gpu(RSX), if one of these banks dont have enough ram for a specific task, then ps3 will suffer greatly while 360 can be something like   256-256 or  300-212 or 212-300..... in so many differnt ways that has the exact same performance with eachother,

respond to that cows,

p.s dont forget the 10mb devoted to xenos, which allows for aa and hdr, with no performance costs, and no bandwidth on the ram pool which happens on ps3.

Jhung207

So why would anyone even care about the RAM.............do you really think when an average person or gamer for that matter goes to buy a console the first thing that runs across there mind is how much RAM the console HAS!!!

Stop trying to act like you are smarter than everyone else...........................NO ONE CARES!!!

I care about ram. Why the hell are people paying 50% more for a console that has less ram than the xbox 360. The games will not look as good on 256 as it would on 512mb of ram.

It doesn't have less RAM . It's amount is alloacted differently.
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[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]Its not rocket science folks, well informed gamers know Sony has always developed uber high powered CPUs with its Playstation consoles and choked the life (and full potential) out of them with the lack of RAM....Although the consoles were very successful, in many cases it forced devs to either chop up a perfectly good game to try to run on the console or look towards the competition.

Game On...
Rashpal
yes, sony makes crazy processor for the times, but they always come to huge bottlenecks, ps3 is an unbalanced system, 360 is more of a balanced system

RAM limitations or not in a year from now PS3 will demonstrate what all that power can do in the right hands. Clearly devs thinking along your lines won't be able to make the most of PS3's archtecture. In fact you only have to look at Motorstorm to get a good indication of what devs will be able to do. But lets wait and see shall we...

oblivion WAS suffering on ps3 due to ram limitations, until they heavilly optimize it? so how is that a year from now? ps3 is a great console, and will show fantastic resualts, though thers no telling what 360 can do also... and it seems that your saying in the long run, 360 will have the more dominate platform when it comes to power for games
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[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]

[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]okay, knowone is talking about ram, cause its undeniable 360's ram is better in most aspects /thread /ownageRadeon_X1950XTX

you just ended your own thread there Einstein.

yeah, im not coming back to this thread after this post, since knowone can own me when it comes to ram 360vs ps3, ill leave this thread as a reminder the cows, about attacking ther weak point for massive damage!

Take your rytalin and go take a nap little boy. You're embarassing yourself.

little boy? emarassing myself? hm on forums? hm and how am i embarassing myself? cause i was right the whole times? go to school little girl

Your views are clearly as biased as was suggested earlier in the thread. IMO PS3 is mthe more powerful machine. You can sugar coat that with talk about Ram, but in a year from now no one will care. It's that games that'll do all the talking.
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#46 Radeon_X1950XTX
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Oh, you poor thing. Did your 360 go to heaven? That's right. Shut up! Wow, using a forum link to describe a difference. Real pownage there.Twisted_Hawk
so please, send some facts that ps3 ram owns 360? or can you make a logical comment on which one is really better? otherwise quit bashing me, and start using some facts... devs even said ram on 360 is much better then on ps3
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[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]Its not rocket science folks, well informed gamers know Sony has always developed uber high powered CPUs with its Playstation consoles and choked the life (and full potential) out of them with the lack of RAM....Although the consoles were very successful, in many cases it forced devs to either chop up a perfectly good game to try to run on the console or look towards the competition.

Game On...
Radeon_X1950XTX
yes, sony makes crazy processor for the times, but they always come to huge bottlenecks, ps3 is an unbalanced system, 360 is more of a balanced system

RAM limitations or not in a year from now PS3 will demonstrate what all that power can do in the right hands. Clearly devs thinking along your lines won't be able to make the most of PS3's archtecture. In fact you only have to look at Motorstorm to get a good indication of what devs will be able to do. But lets wait and see shall we...

oblivion WAS suffering on ps3 due to ram limitations, until they heavilly optimize it? so how is that a year from now? ps3 is a great console, and will show fantastic resualts, though thers no telling what 360 can do also... and it seems that your saying in the long run, 360 will have the more dominate platform when it comes to power for games

Oblivion is a game designed for the architecture of the 360 which in itself is very similar to PC. PS3 is a very different beast and so requires a very different understanding of its design to exploit it's strengths. Take my word for it my friend. This issue is minor.
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[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]

[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]okay, knowone is talking about ram, cause its undeniable 360's ram is better in most aspects /thread /ownageRashpal

you just ended your own thread there Einstein.

yeah, im not coming back to this thread after this post, since knowone can own me when it comes to ram 360vs ps3, ill leave this thread as a reminder the cows, about attacking ther weak point for massive damage!

Take your rytalin and go take a nap little boy. You're embarassing yourself.

little boy? emarassing myself? hm on forums? hm and how am i embarassing myself? cause i was right the whole times? go to school little girl

Your views are clearly as biased as was suggested earlier in the thread. IMO PS3 is mthe more powerful machine. You can sugar coat that with talk about Ram, but in a year from now no one will care. It's that games that'll do all the talking.

IMO ps3 is the more powerfull platform(cpu wise) gpu, 360 has ram 360 has you will not see the full potentail of cell cause its being bottleneck by the ram... though we will see some amazing stuff on both platforms but 360 will be the dominate console, (power wise) meaning multiplats, such as assassins creed will be better on 360..... how am i biased? im using facts... and to let you all know..im a pc gamer
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#49 Radeon_X1950XTX
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[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]Its not rocket science folks, well informed gamers know Sony has always developed uber high powered CPUs with its Playstation consoles and choked the life (and full potential) out of them with the lack of RAM....Although the consoles were very successful, in many cases it forced devs to either chop up a perfectly good game to try to run on the console or look towards the competition.

Game On...
Rashpal
yes, sony makes crazy processor for the times, but they always come to huge bottlenecks, ps3 is an unbalanced system, 360 is more of a balanced system

RAM limitations or not in a year from now PS3 will demonstrate what all that power can do in the right hands. Clearly devs thinking along your lines won't be able to make the most of PS3's archtecture. In fact you only have to look at Motorstorm to get a good indication of what devs will be able to do. But lets wait and see shall we...

oblivion WAS suffering on ps3 due to ram limitations, until they heavilly optimize it? so how is that a year from now? ps3 is a great console, and will show fantastic resualts, though thers no telling what 360 can do also... and it seems that your saying in the long run, 360 will have the more dominate platform when it comes to power for games

Oblivion is a game designed for the architecture of the 360 which in itself is very similar to PC. PS3 is a very different beast and so requires a very different understanding of its design to exploit it's strengths. Take my word from it my friend. This issue is minor.

that is totally true in some ways, but remember, multiplats such as assassins creed, will be either developed on pc or 360(cause simillar architecture) then be ported on ps3
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[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"][QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]

[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]okay, knowone is talking about ram, cause its undeniable 360's ram is better in most aspects /thread /ownageRadeon_X1950XTX

you just ended your own thread there Einstein.

yeah, im not coming back to this thread after this post, since knowone can own me when it comes to ram 360vs ps3, ill leave this thread as a reminder the cows, about attacking ther weak point for massive damage!

Take your rytalin and go take a nap little boy. You're embarassing yourself.

little boy? emarassing myself? hm on forums? hm and how am i embarassing myself? cause i was right the whole times? go to school little girl

Your views are clearly as biased as was suggested earlier in the thread. IMO PS3 is mthe more powerful machine. You can sugar coat that with talk about Ram, but in a year from now no one will care. It's that games that'll do all the talking.

IMO ps3 is the more powerfull platform(cpu wise) gpu, 360 has ram 360 has you will not see the full potentail of cell cause its being bottleneck by the ram... though we will see some amazing stuff on both platforms but 360 will be the dominate console, (power wise) meaning multiplats, such as assassins creed will be better on 360..... how am i biased? im using facts... and to let you all know..im a pc gamer

And that's the point. Your applying PC rules to PS3's design. That's fine for 360 as they share similar architectural designs but Sony's console is very different. Just look at Motorstorm. In fact just look at my sig. Give it a year my friend.