Rant Topic: GT5's mediocre visuals

GT5 is the best looking game of this E3, according to Gamespot.Wassmansdorff

Unfortunately Gamespot is not god so they are wrong.

im too lazy to post gamersyde videos or gifs, this woman is clearly in denial

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[QUOTE="Wassmansdorff"]GT5 is the best looking game of this E3, according to Gamespot.Hakkai007

Unfortunately Gamespot is not god so they are wrong.

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Wassmansdorff"]GT5 is the best looking game of this E3, according to Gamespot.ArtisTool

Unfortunately Gamespot is not god so they are wrong.

Keyword "console".

Also it was a PC gamer who start the thread thinking that maybe he/she would take a consolites word that GT5 looked awesome.

But compared to PC gaming that is completely wrong.

[QUOTE="drspudz"][QUOTE="J-WOW"] /threadwindsquid9000

To bad nobody else in the entire gaming media would agree with you , and im curious how did you play this demo ? You just happned to be at E3 and your writing about it now?

[QUOTE="ArtisTool"][QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

Unfortunately Gamespot is not god so they are wrong.

Hakkai007

Keyword "console".

Also it was a PC gamer who start the thread thinking that maybe he would take a consolites word that GT5 looked awesome.

But compared to PC gaming that is completely wrong.

No they said it was the best looking gam PERIOD! If you dont like GS go to a diffrent forum the fact is its the best looking racing game period .

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="drspudz"] What is that gonna get you? Forza 3 isn't even the best looking racer on the 360.TheSterls

To bad nobody else in the entire gaming media would agree with you , and im curious how did you play this demo ? You just happned to be at E3 and your writing about it now?

They have the demo being playable at certain stores like Bestbuy.

I have one near me.

And yes PC Dirt 2 and F1 2010 have better graphics.

GT5 demo huh?....

I don't think you quite understand the differences between a demo and the finished product...

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="ArtisTool"] They aren't incompetent retards either, they may not be perfect but they are WAAAY more credible then random forum posters... This thread is laughable, lemmings claiming one of the best looking console games ever made has mediocre graphics... Oh my...TheSterls

Keyword "console".

Also it was a PC gamer who start the thread thinking that maybe he would take a consolites word that GT5 looked awesome.

But compared to PC gaming that is completely wrong.

No they said it was the best looking gam PERIOD! If you dont like GS go to a diffrent forum the fact is its the best looking racing game period .

When I meant PC gaming I meant PC racing games.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

Keyword "console".

Also it was a PC gamer who start the thread thinking that maybe he would take a consolites word that GT5 looked awesome.

But compared to PC gaming that is completely wrong.

Hakkai007

No they said it was the best looking gam PERIOD! If you dont like GS go to a diffrent forum the fact is its the best looking racing game period .

When I meant PC gaming I meant PC racing games.

Thats great , and posted thos mediocre pics of Dirt 2 somehow thinking it looks better then GT5 but noobdy other then hermits in forums agree with this. Its amazing to me how everyone thinks game journalist just dont play pc games . If they say "GT5 looks amazing , if all the pictures look amazing and all the high def videos look good , then why are the only ones that say otherwise fanboys in the back halls of SW?

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="drspudz"] What is that gonna get you? Forza 3 isn't even the best looking racer on the 360.TheSterls

To bad nobody else in the entire gaming media would agree with you , and im curious how did you play this demo ? You just happned to be at E3 and your writing about it now?

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"] I'd have to say Codemasters' racers and maybe NFS: Shift beat it.windsquid9000

To bad nobody else in the entire gaming media would agree with you , and im curious how did you play this demo ? You just happned to be at E3 and your writing about it now?

The problem is the only one saying the sky is lime green is you .

Show me a pic of any racing game thats beats this.

No matter how many haters and skeptics there are for this game plenty others will still enjoy this when it finally comes out. Right now people just want find a reason to **** and moan about anything. Chill out folks. I don't get why a racing game (or any game for that matter) is used as flamebait. Fanboys aren't proving anything with this.

[QUOTE="killa4lyfe"][QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

You must have missed my screenshots of F1 2010 that I posted in this thread many times.

Hakkai007

Yes and F1 2010 has better graphics on PC of course.

Anyone who thinks differently is in denial.

And it seems you are not playing it on max.

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

To bad nobody else in the entire gaming media would agree with you , and im curious how did you play this demo ? You just happned to be at E3 and your writing about it now?

TheSterls

The problem is the only one saying the sky is lime green is you .

Show me a pic of any racing game thats beats this.

The game looks fine with the gameplay , why not just use that?

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]If a random scientist were to say the sky was lime green, would you believe him even though you can clearly see before your eyes that it's blue? The gaming media says it's a pretty game, and I agree. But that doesn't change that GT5 has 2D trees. That doesn't change that GT5's textures are a little below average, that doesn't change that the vehicle reflections are of a very low resolution. That doesn't change that buildings and landmarks are lacking in polygons, texture detail, and normal mapping. No matter what the gaming press says, these observable facts will not change. I saw the demo running on an HD display DIRECTLY from the PS3 (as opposed to a compressed video) and this is what I saw.TheSterls

The problem is the only one saying the sky is lime green is you .

Show me a pic of any racing game thats beats this.

EDIT: I'd also like to say that neither videos nor gifs are a good reference and I don't believe there are any direct-feed screenshots.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"] If a random scientist were to say the sky was lime green, would you believe him even though you can clearly see before your eyes that it's blue? The gaming media says it's a pretty game, and I agree. But that doesn't change that GT5 has 2D trees. That doesn't change that GT5's textures are a little below average, that doesn't change that the vehicle reflections are of a very low resolution. That doesn't change that buildings and landmarks are lacking in polygons, texture detail, and normal mapping. No matter what the gaming press says, these observable facts will not change. I saw the demo running on an HD display DIRECTLY from the PS3 (as opposed to a compressed video) and this is what I saw.killa4lyfe

The problem is the only one saying the sky is lime green is you .

Show me a pic of any racing game thats beats this.

The game looks fine with the gameplay , why not just use that?

The sad thing is...that it's not a bullshot, the game actually looks that good.

Have you seen the new Visual effects trailer showing off the snow and the rain?

Here it is it you haven't seen it, the visuals are phenominal.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]If a random scientist were to say the sky was lime green, would you believe him even though you can clearly see before your eyes that it's blue? The gaming media says it's a pretty game, and I agree. But that doesn't change that GT5 has 2D trees. That doesn't change that GT5's textures are a little below average, that doesn't change that the vehicle reflections are of a very low resolution. That doesn't change that buildings and landmarks are lacking in polygons, texture detail, and normal mapping. No matter what the gaming press says, these observable facts will not change. I saw the demo running on an HD display DIRECTLY from the PS3 (as opposed to a compressed video) and this is what I saw.windsquid9000

The problem is the only one saying the sky is lime green is you .

Show me a pic of any racing game thats beats this.

Oh snap, your telling me that a racing game where all the cars are in motion, is not going to have motion blur?

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

The problem is the only one saying the sky is lime green is you .

Show me a pic of any racing game thats beats this.

WiiMan21

Oh snap, your telling me that a racing game where all the cars are in motion, is not going to have motion blur?

[QUOTE="killa4lyfe"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

The problem is the only one saying the sky is lime green is you .

Show me a pic of any racing game thats beats this.

WiiMan21

The game looks fine with the gameplay , why not just use that?

The sad thing is...that it's not a bullshot, the game actually looks that good.

Have you seen the new Visual effects trailer showing off the snow and the rain?

Here it is it you haven't seen it, the visuals are phenominal.

It looks amazing for a console game, but there's still an IQ gap between the footage and the bullshot.

The sad thing is...that it's not a bullshot, the game actually looks that good.

Have you seen the new Visual effects trailer showing off the snow and the rain?

Here it is it you haven't seen it, the visuals are phenominal.

WiiMan21

Look at this comparison of BFBC2.

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

Its not a fair comparison on pc anyway!

Hakkai007

I know it isn't but some GT5 fanboys think that their game is the best looking racer which is untrue.

Well they are being silly :P . haha GT5 is the best looking console racer without much doubt, but trying to compare the graphics with a pc game is silly!

Not to that extent while you're racing. Unlike that screenshot, the environment is clearly visible at all times- enough to notice the flaws that I've pointed out all throughout the thread.

windsquid9000

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Yah I was playing F1 2010 and racing at speeds past 150MPH and there was no motion blur like that.

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DO I really need to repost these screenshots....

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If GT5 graphics look mediocre to some of you then you ought to quit gaming for 10 years until your standards are caught. I would be fine if the game looked exactly like GT5P, that game looked pretty awesome and there was never a single framerate issue even with 16 cars, I know they will improve in GT5, for someone to talk crap about GT5 is nonsense the game isnt even out, and if you check out some videos from Madrid or London, it looks almost photorealisic, and yes I do game on PC also.

If GT5 graphics look mediocre to some of you then you ought to quit gaming for 10 years until your standards are caught. I would be fine if the game looked exactly like GT5P, that game looked pretty awesome and there was never a single framerate issue even with 16 cars, I know they will improve in GT5, for someone to talk crap about GT5 is nonsense the game isnt even out, and if you check out some videos from Madrid or London, it looks almost photorealisic, and yes I do game on PC also.

deniiiii21

If by photo realistic you mean flat trees, flat rails, low res reflections etc. etc. then yes you would be correct.

[QUOTE="deniiiii21"]

If GT5 graphics look mediocre to some of you then you ought to quit gaming for 10 years until your standards are caught. I would be fine if the game looked exactly like GT5P, that game looked pretty awesome and there was never a single framerate issue even with 16 cars, I know they will improve in GT5, for someone to talk crap about GT5 is nonsense the game isnt even out, and if you check out some videos from Madrid or London, it looks almost photorealisic, and yes I do game on PC also.

Hakkai007

If by photo realistic you mean flat trees, flat rails, low res reflections etc. etc. then yes you would be correct.

Its a good looking game.

Nitpicking about how guard rails look.....on a game that hasn't released yet.....calling a games visuals mediocre based on a demo that's not even the final build of the game?

Nitpicking about how guard rails look.....on a game that hasn't released yet.....calling a games visuals mediocre based on a demo that's not even the final build of the game?

FIipMode

If betting was allowed here I would make bets with you that GT5 will not have better graphics than Dirt 2 or F1 2010 on the PC.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

Nitpicking about how guard rails look.....on a game that hasn't released yet.....calling a games visuals mediocre based on a demo that's not even the final build of the game?

Hakkai007

If betting was allowed here I would make bets with you that GT5 will not have better graphics than Dirt 2 or F1 2010 on the PC.

Why do you keep bringing up those pc version of the games? Its usually you bringing up that game, most people are not denying that pc graphics are better.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

Nitpicking about how guard rails look.....on a game that hasn't released yet.....calling a games visuals mediocre based on a demo that's not even the final build of the game?

Hakkai007

If betting was allowed here I would make bets with you that GT5 will not have better graphics than Dirt 2 or F1 2010 on the PC.

Yah I was playing F1 2010 and racing at speeds past 150MPH and there was no motion blur like that.

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DO I really need to repost these screenshots....Hakkai007

If GT5 graphics look mediocre to some of you then you ought to quit gaming for 10 years until your standards are caught. I would be fine if the game looked exactly like GT5P, that game looked pretty awesome and there was never a single framerate issue even with 16 cars, I know they will improve in GT5, for someone to talk crap about GT5 is nonsense the game isnt even out, and if you check out some videos from Madrid or London, it looks almost photorealisic, and yes I do game on PC also.

deniiiii21

Nitpicking about how guard rails look.....on a game that hasn't released yet.....calling a games visuals mediocre based on a demo that's not even the final build of the game?

FIipMode

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

Nitpicking about how guard rails look.....on a game that hasn't released yet.....calling a games visuals mediocre based on a demo that's not even the final build of the game?

_Matt_

If betting was allowed here I would make bets with you that GT5 will not have better graphics than Dirt 2 or F1 2010 on the PC.

Why do you keep bringing up those pc version of the games? Its usually you bringing up that game, most people are not denying that pc graphics are better.

Because there were a few people who thought GT5 would looks better than the best looking PC racing games.

If you think it will just be the best looking console game then we can probably agree on that.

1. I'm commenting on the visuals. Guard rails are part of the visuals. 2. Journalists' opinions are based off the demo as well 3. It's infuriating how many people don't read the whole OP.

windsquid9000

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

If betting was allowed here I would make bets with you that GT5 will not have better graphics than Dirt 2 or F1 2010 on the PC.

Hakkai007

Why do you keep bringing up those pc version of the games? Its usually you bringing up that game, most people are not denying that pc graphics are better.

Because there were a few people who thought GT5 would looks better than the best looking PC racing games.

If you think it will just be the best looking console game then we can probably agree on that.

The majority of us GT5 fans however argue that it is the best looking console racer, so your pc ish pics don't really prove much to us

The majority of us GT5 fans however argue that it is the best looking console racer, so your pc ish pics don't really prove much to us

_Matt_

Well if that is all you arguing then that is fine, but sadly some are not keeping it to only consoles.

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

The majority of us GT5 fans however argue that it is the best looking console racer, so your pc ish pics don't really prove much to us

Hakkai007

Well if that is all you arguing then that is fine, but sadly some are not keeping it to only consoles.

mm, as I said earlier, they are just being silly :/

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

1. I'm commenting on the visuals. Guard rails are part of the visuals. 2. Journalists' opinions are based off the demo as well 3. It's infuriating how many people don't read the whole OP.

FIipMode

EDIT: and the level of detail can't be as good considering there's 16 high-poly cars on track. Polyphony doesn't have magical powers.

[QUOTE="deniiiii21"]

If GT5 graphics look mediocre to some of you then you ought to quit gaming for 10 years until your standards are caught. I would be fine if the game looked exactly like GT5P, that game looked pretty awesome and there was never a single framerate issue even with 16 cars, I know they will improve in GT5, for someone to talk crap about GT5 is nonsense the game isnt even out, and if you check out some videos from Madrid or London, it looks almost photorealisic, and yes I do game on PC also.

windsquid9000

Wait what? A picture doesn't give you a fair idea of how a game looks. A video of the game running in front of you might tho. :|

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

1. I'm commenting on the visuals. Guard rails are part of the visuals. 2. Journalists' opinions are based off the demo as well 3. It's infuriating how many people don't read the whole OP.

windsquid9000

I don't even know where you got this picture from, no sources, no nothing. :?

P.S. I love how you like comparing a game running on this/last years hardware to a game that has hardware from 5 years ago and still can pull its own weight.

I think all people should stop posting in this thread as obviously the TC and Hakkai are a couple of trolls out for a good laugh. They are trying to downgrade a superb game while calling other mediocre racers such as F1 and Dirt 2 more superb looking.

It is an obvious troll thread and those who are being baited into it as I was are silly for responding to such people. Please let the thread die and stop posting, if anything perhaps Hakkai and Squid can then have a long conversation about how much they love games that aren't even out yet all the while bashing a game they haven't even played.

Also I just confirmed from a Best Buy that is on that supposed "list" that there is NO GT5 set up going on right now. So the TC hasn't played the game, and those that believe him are more than likely lemmings that want to believe his words, or people whom are very naive.

Delsage

It is true that Dirt 2 PC and F1 2010 PC have better graphics than GT5.

You are in denial to think otherwise.

I don't even know where you got this picture from, no sources, no nothing. :?

P.S. I love how you like comparing a game running on this/last years hardware to a game that has hardware from 5 years ago and still can pull its own weight.

killa4lyfe

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

I think all people should stop posting in this thread as obviously the TC and Hakkai are a couple of trolls out for a good laugh. They are trying to downgrade a superb game while calling other mediocre racers such as F1 and Dirt 2 more superb looking.

It is an obvious troll thread and those who are being baited into it as I was are silly for responding to such people. Please let the thread die and stop posting, if anything perhaps Hakkai and Squid can then have a long conversation about how much they love games that aren't even out yet all the while bashing a game they haven't even played.

Also I just confirmed from a Best Buy that is on that supposed "list" that there is NO GT5 set up going on right now. So the TC hasn't played the game, and those that believe him are more than likely lemmings that want to believe his words, or people whom are very naive.

Hakkai007

It is true that Dirt 2 PC and F1 2010 PC have better graphics than GT5.

You are in denial to think otherwise.

[QUOTE="killa4lyfe"]

I don't even know where you got this picture from, no sources, no nothing. :?

P.S. I love how you like comparing a game running on this/last years hardware to a game that has hardware from 5 years ago and still can pull its own weight.

windsquid9000

Please stop posting the exact same pictures over and over again.

It's annoying as hell.

There is no point in telling you anything else cause neither you nor Squid listen. Facts are facts and many people in here have provided them to you. Yet all you keep saying is Dirt 2 and F! on the PC. If that is your excuse for overexerting a game that got a mediocre score than that is just trolling. In fact I bet you don't have F1 for any platform. Delsage

Let's try this:

Watch this video. Look at the guard rails. A curvy line with grooves painted on

Boot up GT5P (on your own PS3, not a video). Switch to the hood view. You'll be greeted with pixellated and undefined reflections

For trees, look at a GT5 screenshot and do your best to imagine the trees with slightly lower fidelity and jaggies

For shaders, look at the showroom cars in GT5P (on your PS3, not a video) Look for a slight "smudginess" to the surface. The shaders are by no means bad, they're just a little off and other games have exponentially higher quality shaders.

For buildings and landmarks, GT5P might do, but I'm not sure.

That's the best I can do short of renting a bus, driving around the country, and ferrying all of the skeptics to a participating Best Buy. It's kinda hard to post sources when you're referring to your own experiences, not someone else's.