RARE!!!!!! Has proven to be one HECK of an aqusition for MS. MS you ROCK!!!!!!

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#1 Slappy_Pappy09
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PDZ 9.0 AAA launch game great game great graphics great coop and online play for a launch game.

PDZ 2 is on it's way and It will most defiantly bring the name back to true glory.

Kameo 8.7 AA Great game with great graphics for an early launch game.

Viva Pinata 1 8.3 2 8.5 Both have been great games and a good new franchise.

Banjo Nuts & Bolts 8.5 AA Taken chances took the franchise in a new direction and it has payed off great game with SPECTACULAR GRAPHICS. Oh and only $39.99 and a free copy of Banjo Kazooie in HD:shock:. Yeah don't get any better. Thanks Rare!!!

With speculation of a new Killer Instinct. WOW yeah and among others and this is even referenced in Banjo.

Bottum line is MS is kicking *** and taking names. And only a true blind fanboy would turn there nose to MS and Rare. By the way the new Live update is PHENOMINAL only haters would say other wise.

Rare is BACK and guess what MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Them.

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#2 st1ka
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kameo and viva pinata are incredible games, Perfect dark was ...ok

banjo... never been a big fan of banjo

 

a killer instinct 3 would be awesome though, or at least port killer instinct 1 and 2 over to the market place the arcade versions preferrably

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#3 gameofthering
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Shouldn't it be called PD2, Since it was PD0 and PD1 was on the N64?
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RARE never went anywhere. They were always good and always will be until they totally f'up. I hope KI3 comes out next year

*crosses finger*

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#5 II_Seraphim_II
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RARE never went anywhere. They were always good and always will be until they totally f'up. I hope KI3 comes out next year

*crosses finger*

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If Rare releases KI3, I will gladly buy 10 copies of the game to show my support :D I dont care if KI3 is the exact same game as KI:Gold but with better graphics :P
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#6 Uptown
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I dont think this thread would hold much ground with most people......Banjo didnt do well at alot of sites, PDZ was an awful game and would probably get a 6.5 if it was released right now. I'll give you Viva Pinata and Kameo though
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#7 spectravoid
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it might have been a good acquisition but now compare MIcrosoft Rare to Nintendo Rare Nintendo put out: Killer Instinct Donkey Kong Banjo Kazooie Perfect Dark Golden Eye Star Fox Diddy Kong Racing Conker's Bad Fur Day Jet Force Gemini Viva Pinata Battle Toads Blast Corps
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If they ever dare to release a true sequel to Perfect Dark, they better not screw it up in any matter.
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#9 st1ka
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it might have been a good acquisition but now compare MIcrosoft Rare to Nintendo Rare Nintendo put out: Killer Instinct Donkey Kong Banjo Kazooie Perfect Dark Golden Eye Star Fox Diddy Kong Racing Conker's Bad Fur Day Jet Force Gemini Viva Pinata Battle Toads Blast Corpsspectravoid

what are those games doing there? battletoads was created before RARE belonged to nintendo and Viva pinata was created after rare was bought by microsoft

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I dont think this thread would hold much ground with most people......Banjo didnt do well at alot of sites, PDZ was an awful game and would probably get a 6.5 if it was released right now. I'll give you Viva Pinata and Kameo thoughUptown

Now GS overrates games:? As we know GS is as harsh as it gets for reviews.

Giant Bomb gave it a 5 stars

IGN. Gave it a 8.3

It's a great game PERIOD

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[QUOTE="spectravoid"]it might have been a good acquisition but now compare MIcrosoft Rare to Nintendo Rare Nintendo put out: Killer Instinct Donkey Kong Banjo Kazooie Perfect Dark Golden Eye Star Fox Diddy Kong Racing Conker's Bad Fur Day Jet Force Gemini Viva Pinata Battle Toads Blast Corpsst1ka

what are those games doing there?

Viva pinata DS
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#12 spectravoid
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Also Banjo Kazooie was guaranteed at least a B score just for being called Banjo Kazooie It just like how Zelda is always guaranteed AA
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[QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="spectravoid"]it might have been a good acquisition but now compare MIcrosoft Rare to Nintendo Rare Nintendo put out: Killer Instinct Donkey Kong Banjo Kazooie Perfect Dark Golden Eye Star Fox Diddy Kong Racing Conker's Bad Fur Day Jet Force Gemini Viva Pinata Battle Toads Blast Corpsspectravoid

what are those games doing there?

Viva pinata DS

 

battletoads was created before nintendo bought rare

Viva pinata DS was created after microsoft bought rare

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Also Banjo Kazooie was guaranteed at least a B score just for being called Banjo Kazooie It just like how Zelda is always guaranteed AAspectravoid

All I know when I first played the demo I was like Meh.

Then I played it again and really tried a few things and it clicked in my head. I said WOW this game is shweeeettttt. Best $39.99 you can spend on any system right now and with the alltime great classis included. It's a BARN BURNER BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#15 110million
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Yet even the worst pre-MS RARE title was much better then the best MS RARE title, Banjo might be an 8.5 for the standards of today, but its about a 5.5/10 compared to the originals.
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#16 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Perfect dark 0 is a joke I was never a banjo fan in the beginning. Viva Pinata are boring slow games. Kameo was a waste of my time (great music tho) I think rare is a shell of its old self since being bought by MS and the games prove it.
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Yet even the worst pre-MS RARE title was much better then the best MS RARE title, Banjo might be an 8.5 for the standards of today, but its about a 5.5/10 compared to the originals.110million
Nostalgia is blinding you. The originals don't hold up well compared to today's standards.
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#18 110million
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[QUOTE="110million"]Yet even the worst pre-MS RARE title was much better then the best MS RARE title, Banjo might be an 8.5 for the standards of today, but its about a 5.5/10 compared to the originals.Aljosa23
Nostalgia is blinding you. The originals don't hold up well compared to today's standards.

While the gameplay is arguable, some of the atmosphere and "feeling" of the game doesn't match today's standards. 2 examples: 1) They only speak one or two words per sentance, on N64, they talked throughout the sentance, now your stuck reading almost entire paragraphs in silence. 2) The music is awful, and doesn't match Banjo at all, you got like cheap elevator music making up much of the background music. While someone might prefere vehicle creation over just pure collection, those 2 things seem to bother me quite a bit, it just feels wrong, would it have been so hard to just use the same style of music, and record more then 5 minutes of voice clips for an entire game? I know they don't actually speak, so just make them create noises for the whole sentance, it just feels so wrong.
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#19 Couth_
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I don't care for any one of those games. I'd be all over Killer Instinct though
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#20 Slappy_Pappy09
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This topic got kind of wierd. I see some saying Rare is a joke yet at the sametime saying they would kill for Killer Instink. Go figure?
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#21 elcoholic
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The new banjo sucks. It looks great, its really funny but the gameplay is just plain bad imo. Put it away after 2 hours of playing. So boring.

 But that doesn't matter as long as it gets a good score it seems.

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[QUOTE="Uptown"]I dont think this thread would hold much ground with most people......Banjo didnt do well at alot of sites, PDZ was an awful game and would probably get a 6.5 if it was released right now. I'll give you Viva Pinata and Kameo thoughSlappy_Pappy09

Now GS overrates games:? As we know GS is as harsh as it gets for reviews.

Giant Bomb gave it a 5 stars

IGN. Gave it a 8.3

It's a great game PERIOD

Yes, compared to other sites GS overrates 360 exclusives.
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Shouldn't it be called PD2, Since it was PD0 and PD1 was on the N64?gameofthering
No, same thing happened with Resident Evil Zero, and PDZ's sequel was PD.
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#24 mitu123
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Here are my scores:

Perfect Dark Zero-7.0(how did it get a 9.0 on here again)

Kamoe-7.5

Viva Pinata-8.0

Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise-8.0

Banjo Kazooie: Nuts N Bolts-Haven't played it yet, but it's a love/hate game.

So Rare with Nintendo>Rare with Microsoft. Rare has yet to make a game as good as the original Perfect Dark. 

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#25 PAL360
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[QUOTE="Slappy_Pappy09"]

[QUOTE="Uptown"]I dont think this thread would hold much ground with most people......Banjo didnt do well at alot of sites, PDZ was an awful game and would probably get a 6.5 if it was released right now. I'll give you Viva Pinata and Kameo thoughskektek

Now GS overrates games:? As we know GS is as harsh as it gets for reviews.

Giant Bomb gave it a 5 stars

IGN. Gave it a 8.3

It's a great game PERIOD

Yes, compared to other sites GS overrates 360 exclusives.

so...why does Fable2, Mass Effect, Gears2, etc have better scores on gamerankings and metacritic?

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#26 skektek
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They don't over score every game. but generally they do over rate compared to the consensus. The discrepancy can't be written off as GS just being a "forgiving site", at about the same rate that they over score 360 exclusives they underscore PS3 exclusives. Its not a night-and-day difference but it is there.
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[QUOTE="110million"]Yet even the worst pre-MS RARE title was much better then the best MS RARE title, Banjo might be an 8.5 for the standards of today, but its about a 5.5/10 compared to the originals.Aljosa23
Nostalgia is blinding you. The originals don't hold up well compared to today's standards.

Your right the originals would get 11 out of 10's today... No really they are that good...
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#29 WAIW
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can't wait for grabbed by the ghoulies 2
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#30 Sonicplys
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M$ ruined Rare. N64 Banjo games > everything Rare has done since coming over to M$. Nintendo is the only one that can save their souls.
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#31 dark-warmachine
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Not in my eyes they haven't. Their formal selves were better, but all things would be forgiven if they are able to bring back Killer Instinct.
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#32 mitu123
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can't wait for grabbed by the ghoulies 2WAIW
The 1st one sucked though(hope your being sarcastic).
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#33 xgamer40
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Rare has always been one of my favorite developers, Banjo Kazooie is amazing, Conkers Bad Fur Day was my favorite N64 game of all time, Donkey Kong 64 was really fun, Perfect Dark was way ahead of its time and fun as hell, Viva Pinata is innovative, charming and fun, Kameo I havent played but looks good. I just hope they release a new Conker game sometime in the new future...
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#34 -DrRobotnik-
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Not to mention it was RARE behind the avatars, which i embarrassingly love:P
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#35 50shot
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You're right, but they're wayy too overpaid imho. They're not the same anymore. Today's Bungie is equivalent to Rare for Nintendo back in N64 days. Now a days, they're just sitting in the back. Their perfect dark zero wasn't that great either, I asssumed that it would be Goldeneye 3, but they did a lot of things wrong imho. Multiplayer is trash too, don't go there. Their pinata game is one of the dumbest games imho. What else did they make?

Summary: Rare sucks.

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#36 WAIW
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[QUOTE="WAIW"]can't wait for grabbed by the ghoulies 2mitu123
The 1st one sucked though(hope your being sarcastic).

I was, just playing fun at TC for ignoring it.

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#37 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="WAIW"]can't wait for grabbed by the ghoulies 2WAIW

The 1st one sucked though(hope your being sarcastic).

I was, just playing fun at TC for ignoring it.

Ok, that's good to hear.
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#38 st1ka
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what this thread needs is:

STIKA'S LIST OF RARE DOES NOT SUCK

 

Scores from ALL RARE games from the SNES to the xbox 360 (using game rankings)

 

16- bit era:

Battle toads (SNES) : 78%

Battle toads (gen) : 72%

Battletoads and double dragon: (snes) : 59%

Battletoads and double dragon (gen): 65%

Battle toads (GB) : 77.7%

Battle toads and double dragon (GB): 65%

Battletoads in ragnarock's world (GB) : 75%

Donkey kong land (GB) : 71%

Donkey Kong land 2 (gb) : 79%

Donkey kong land 3 ( 82%)

Killer instinct (GB) :25%

Killer instinct (SNES): (80%)

The amazing spider-man (73%)

Beetlejuice (GB): 55%

Fortress of fear (GB): 20%

Sneaky snakes (GB) 53%

Championship-pro-am (Gen): 80%

Donkey kong country (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong country 2 (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong countru 3 (snes): 85%

Average score: 69%


 

 

 

 

N64 era:

Perfect Dark (N 64): 95%

Perfect Dark (GBC): 66%

Donkey kong country (GBC): 90%

Conker's pocket tales (GBC): 55%

mickey's speedway USA (GBC): 81%

Mickey's speedway USA (N64): 68%

Donkey Kong 64 (N64): 88%

Banjo-Kazooeie (N64): 92%

Banjo-Tooie (N64): 90%

Blast corps (N64): 89%

Conker's bad fur day (N64): 89%

Diddy Kong Racing (N64): 89%

Golden eye 007 (N64): 95%

Jet Force Gemini (N54): 80%

Killer Instinct Gold (N64): 74%

Total average score: 82.7%


 

 

 

Gamecube-Xbox era:

Starfox Adventures (GC) : 80%

Banjo Pilot (GBA): 66%

Banjo Kazooeie: Grunty's revenge (GBA): 73%

SabreWulf (GBA): 74%

Donkey Kong Contry (GBA): 78%

It''s Mr. Pants (GBA): 76%

Donkey Kong country 2 (GBA): 81%

Donkey Kong Country 3 (GBA): 75.1%

Conker: Live and Reloaded (xbox): 79%

Grabbed by the Ghoulies (xbox) 70%

total Score: 75.2

 

Current Gen

Perfect Dark Zero (xbox 360): 81%

Viva Pinata (X360): 85%

viva Pinata 2 (X360): 83%

Viva pinata (PC): 79%

Viva Pinata (DS): 83%

Jet Pac: Refueled: (X360): 73%

Kameo (X360): 81%

Banjo 3: 78%

Average Score: 80.4%

Final Score:

1º N64 RARE: 82.7%

2º Current RARE: 80.4%

3º Last gen RARE: 75.2%

4º 16-Bit RARE: 69%

 

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St1ka just owned everyone...:shock:
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#40 CleanPlayer
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I respectfully disagree.
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#41 mitu123
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St1ka just owned everyone...:shock:Aljosa23
Yeah, I notice that...
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#43 dark-warmachine
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what this thread needs is:

STIKA'S LIST OF RARE DOES NOT SUCK

Scores from ALL RARE games from the SNES to the xbox 360 (using game rankings)

16- bit era:

Battle toads (SNES) : 78%

Battle toads (gen) : 72%

Battletoads and double dragon: (snes) : 59%

Battletoads and double dragon (gen): 65%

Battle toads (GB) : 77.7%

Battle toads and double dragon (GB): 65%

Battletoads in ragnarock's world (GB) : 75%

Donkey kong land (GB) : 71%

Donkey Kong land 2 (gb) : 79%

Donkey kong land 3 ( 82%)

Killer instinct (GB) :25%

Killer instinct (SNES): (80%)

The amazing spider-man (73%)

Beetlejuice (GB): 55%

Fortress of fear (GB): 20%

Sneaky snakes (GB) 53%

Championship-pro-am (Gen): 80%

Donkey kong country (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong country 2 (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong countru 3 (snes): 85%

Average score: 69%


N64 era:

Perfect Dark (N 64): 95%

Perfect Dark (GBC): 66%

Donkey kong country (GBC): 90%

Conker's pocket tales (GBC): 55%

mickey's speedway USA (GBC): 81%

Mickey's speedway USA (N64): 68%

Donkey Kong 64 (N64): 88%

Banjo-Kazooeie (N64): 92%

Banjo-Tooie (N64): 90%

Blast corps (N64): 89%

Conker's bad fur day (N64): 89%

Diddy Kong Racing (N64): 89%

Golden eye 007 (N64): 95%

Jet Force Gemini (N54): 80%

Killer Instinct Gold (N64): 74%

Total average score: 82.7%


Gamecube-Xbox era:

Starfox Adventures (GC) : 80%

Banjo Pilot (GBA): 66%

Banjo Kazooeie: Grunty's revenge (GBA): 73%

SabreWulf (GBA): 74%

Donkey Kong Contry (GBA): 78%

It''s Mr. Pants (GBA): 76%

Donkey Kong country 2 (GBA): 81%

Donkey Kong Country 3 (GBA): 75.1%

Conker: Live and Reloaded (xbox): 79%

Grabbed by the Ghoulies (xbox) 70%

total Score: 75.2

Current Gen

Perfect Dark Zero (xbox 360): 81%

Viva Pinata (X360): 85%

viva Pinata 2 (X360): 83%

Viva pinata (PC): 79%

Viva Pinata (DS): 83%

Jet Pac: Refueled: (X360): 73%

Kameo (X360): 81%

Banjo 3: 78%

Average Score: 80.4%

Final Score:

1º N64 RARE: 82.7%

2º Current RARE: 80.4%

3º Last gen RARE: 75.2%

4º 16-Bit RARE: 69%

st1ka

Color me not impressed, no puns intented or maybe it was, RARE's current titles do not impress me. They need to bring back KI, and Conker, and if they do bring these titles forth, hopefully they don't change the formula like they did with Banjo N&B.

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#44 CreepyBacon
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I dont think this thread would hold much ground with most people......Banjo didnt do well at alot of sites, PDZ was an awful game and would probably get a 6.5 if it was released right now. I'll give you Viva Pinata and Kameo thoughUptown

Resistence 1 is a load of trash as well but it doesn't stop people wetting themselves over it and claling it great, it's not. It's rubbish but it's a launch title so it's ok to be rubbish. 

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#45 kozzy1234
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Kameo was highly underrated and a fantastic game, im not a big fan of the Viva PInata games, but Kameo was very very good!

Also PDZ was fun (Not great) and the new Banjoo is ALOT of fun.

Rare is still a very good company imo.

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#46 MigElite
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I just need Jet Force Gemini Rare...
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Kameo was a blast, that should of been a AAA game.
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Well there were some good games and some weren't up to par with the rest of the list in my opinion, but overall yeah it was a good move by Microsoft to get Rare on its side. Perfect Dark might of gotten a good score here on gamespot, but it was just average in my opinion and the rest were above average which were good for any xbox 360 owners. What I liked most was Kameo for this gen by Rare.
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they're good at making AA games, that's for sure. :D

 

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If the demo weren't so terrible I would have given the new Banjo game a chance. But it was terrible, and now chances are slim I'll attempt to rent the game.