RARE!!!!!! Has proven to be one HECK of an aqusition for MS. MS you ROCK!!!!!!

They don't over score every game. but generally they do over rate compared to the consensus. The discrepancy can't be written off as GS just being a "forgiving site", at about the same rate that they over score 360 exclusives they underscore PS3 exclusives. Its not a night-and-day difference but it is there.skektek

Except, on average, GameSpot underscores both 360 and PS3 exclusives. 

what this thread needs is:

STIKA'S LIST OF RARE DOES NOT SUCK

Scores from ALL RARE games from the SNES to the xbox 360 (using game rankings)

16- bit era:

Battle toads (SNES) : 78%

Battle toads (gen) : 72%

Battletoads and double dragon: (snes) : 59%

Battletoads and double dragon (gen): 65%

Battle toads (GB) : 77.7%

Battle toads and double dragon (GB): 65%

Battletoads in ragnarock's world (GB) : 75%

Donkey kong land (GB) : 71%

Donkey Kong land 2 (gb) : 79%

Donkey kong land 3 ( 82%)

Killer instinct (GB) :25%

Killer instinct (SNES): (80%)

The amazing spider-man (73%)

Beetlejuice (GB): 55%

Fortress of fear (GB): 20%

Sneaky snakes (GB) 53%

Championship-pro-am (Gen): 80%

Donkey kong country (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong country 2 (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong countru 3 (snes): 85%

Average score: 69%

N64 era:

Perfect Dark (N 64): 95%

Perfect Dark (GBC): 66%

Donkey kong country (GBC): 90%

Conker's pocket tales (GBC): 55%

mickey's speedway USA (GBC): 81%

Mickey's speedway USA (N64): 68%

Donkey Kong 64 (N64): 88%

Banjo-Kazooeie (N64): 92%

Banjo-Tooie (N64): 90%

Blast corps (N64): 89%

Conker's bad fur day (N64): 89%

Diddy Kong Racing (N64): 89%

Golden eye 007 (N64): 95%

Jet Force Gemini (N54): 80%

Killer Instinct Gold (N64): 74%

Total average score: 82.7%

Gamecube-Xbox era:

Starfox Adventures (GC) : 80%

Banjo Pilot (GBA): 66%

Banjo Kazooeie: Grunty's revenge (GBA): 73%

SabreWulf (GBA): 74%

Donkey Kong Contry (GBA): 78%

It''s Mr. Pants (GBA): 76%

Donkey Kong country 2 (GBA): 81%

Donkey Kong Country 3 (GBA): 75.1%

Conker: Live and Reloaded (xbox): 79%

Grabbed by the Ghoulies (xbox) 70%

total Score: 75.2

Current Gen

Perfect Dark Zero (xbox 360): 81%

Viva Pinata (X360): 85%

viva Pinata 2 (X360): 83%

Viva pinata (PC): 79%

Viva Pinata (DS): 83%

Jet Pac: Refueled: (X360): 73%

Kameo (X360): 81%

Banjo 3: 78%

Average Score: 80.4%

Final Score:

1º N64 RARE: 82.7%

2º Current RARE: 80.4%

3º Last gen RARE: 75.2%

4º 16-Bit RARE: 69%

st1ka

Well there were some good games and some weren't up to par with the rest of the list in my opinion, but overall yeah it was a good move by Microsoft to get Rare on its side. Perfect Dark might of gotten a good score here on gamespot, but it was just average in my opinion and the rest were above average which were good for any xbox 360 owners. What I liked most was Kameo for this gen by Rare.-DarthMaul-

When we you guys fully understand why PDZ got a 9.0. It is becuase it was a LAUNCH GAME!!! And it had eceptional online and coop features. Yeah the story was a tad bland. But again It had great features right out of the box for a LAUNCH GAME PEOPLE!!! Oh and by the way some great graphics.

[QUOTE="skektek"]They don't over score every game. but generally they do over rate compared to the consensus. The discrepancy can't be written off as GS just being a "forgiving site", at about the same rate that they over score 360 exclusives they underscore PS3 exclusives. Its not a night-and-day difference but it is there.swamprat_basic

Except, on average, GameSpot underscores both 360 and PS3 exclusives. 

[QUOTE="-DarthMaul-"]Well there were some good games and some weren't up to par with the rest of the list in my opinion, but overall yeah it was a good move by Microsoft to get Rare on its side. Perfect Dark might of gotten a good score here on gamespot, but it was just average in my opinion and the rest were above average which were good for any xbox 360 owners. What I liked most was Kameo for this gen by Rare.Slappy_Pappy09

When we you guys fully understand why PDZ got a 9.0. It is becuase it was a LAUNCH GAME!!! And it had eceptional online and coop features. Yeah the story was a tad bland. But again It had great features right out of the box for a LAUNCH GAME PEOPLE!!! Oh and by the way some great graphics.

The story was bizarre, but the missions themselves were awesome.  If you haven't played them on the harder difficulty levels, you are really missing out.  It isn't just harder difficulty, but more full and interesting mission objectives. 

meh haven't liked any of their "this gen" games I was really looking forward to PDZ but it looks like a completely different gamemurat8

what this thread needs is:

STIKA'S LIST OF RARE DOES NOT SUCK

 

Scores from ALL RARE games from the SNES to the xbox 360 (using game rankings)

 

16- bit era:

Battle toads (SNES) : 78%

Battle toads (gen) : 72%

Battletoads and double dragon: (snes) : 59%

Battletoads and double dragon (gen): 65%

Battle toads (GB) : 77.7%

Battle toads and double dragon (GB): 65%

Battletoads in ragnarock's world (GB) : 75%

Donkey kong land (GB) : 71%

Donkey Kong land 2 (gb) : 79%

Donkey kong land 3 ( 82%)

Killer instinct (GB) :25%

Killer instinct (SNES): (80%)

The amazing spider-man (73%)

Beetlejuice (GB): 55%

Fortress of fear (GB): 20%

Sneaky snakes (GB) 53%

Championship-pro-am (Gen): 80%

Donkey kong country (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong country 2 (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong countru 3 (snes): 85%

Average score: 69%

 

 

 

 

N64 era:

Perfect Dark (N 64): 95%

Perfect Dark (GBC): 66%

Donkey kong country (GBC): 90%

Conker's pocket tales (GBC): 55%

mickey's speedway USA (GBC): 81%

Mickey's speedway USA (N64): 68%

Donkey Kong 64 (N64): 88%

Banjo-Kazooeie (N64): 92%

Banjo-Tooie (N64): 90%

Blast corps (N64): 89%

Conker's bad fur day (N64): 89%

Diddy Kong Racing (N64): 89%

Golden eye 007 (N64): 95%

Jet Force Gemini (N54): 80%

Killer Instinct Gold (N64): 74%

Total average score: 82.7%

 

 

 

Gamecube-Xbox era:

Starfox Adventures (GC) : 80%

Banjo Pilot (GBA): 66%

Banjo Kazooeie: Grunty's revenge (GBA): 73%

SabreWulf (GBA): 74%

Donkey Kong Contry (GBA): 78%

It''s Mr. Pants (GBA): 76%

Donkey Kong country 2 (GBA): 81%

Donkey Kong Country 3 (GBA): 75.1%

Conker: Live and Reloaded (xbox): 79%

Grabbed by the Ghoulies (xbox) 70%

total Score: 75.2

 

Current Gen

Perfect Dark Zero (xbox 360): 81%

Viva Pinata (X360): 85%

viva Pinata 2 (X360): 83%

Viva pinata (PC): 79%

Viva Pinata (DS): 83%

Jet Pac: Refueled: (X360): 73%

Kameo (X360): 81%

Banjo 3: 78%

Average Score: 80.4%

Final Score:

1º N64 RARE: 82.7%

2º Current RARE: 80.4%

3º Last gen RARE: 75.2%

4º 16-Bit RARE: 69%

 

st1ka

Why are people in this thread accepting this as "ownage"?

Averaging their review scores per generation is very misleading.  Sure, they put out tons of crap in the 8/16 bit era.. but they also put out a handful of games that obliterate anything they've done in the last two gens.. and that's what matters. 

We shouldn't be looking at their overall average but rather at their best games per generation - and to a lesser extent, the number of good games.  Their best games on the SNes and N64 are astounding.  They are excellent show cases of game design.  ON the last gen systems and the 360?  they are just good(or even great) games.. they aren't nearly as memorable, groundbreaking, revolutionary, or masterfully designed.  That's why alot of people have a problem with rare recently, they used to poop magic!  some of the best games of their respective generations.  Not so much anymore.

ALso.. you're using gamerankings for nes and snes games?  IN some of those games cases there are only 1 or 2 reviews.. that's hardly convincing evidence of the quality of those games. What makes those review scores so reliable that you can use them to compare with current games(did people even review games properly back then?)?  ANd, haven't we already accepted a long time ago on system wars that scores don't equal a better game. Some of those games are better then those scores imply(or worse in some cases).

With all of that said.. i certainly do not agree with people who think rare is a poor developer.  There games this gen have been pretty good, and imo are a step up from last generation.  PD0 is nothing special, but viva piniata and kameo are both unique games.  They are good developers, they just aren't crapping magic like they used to.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

what this thread needs is:

STIKA'S LIST OF RARE DOES NOT SUCK

 

Scores from ALL RARE games from the SNES to the xbox 360 (using game rankings)

 

16- bit era:

Battle toads (SNES) : 78%

Battle toads (gen) : 72%

Battletoads and double dragon: (snes) : 59%

Battletoads and double dragon (gen): 65%

Battle toads (GB) : 77.7%

Battle toads and double dragon (GB): 65%

Battletoads in ragnarock's world (GB) : 75%

Donkey kong land (GB) : 71%

Donkey Kong land 2 (gb) : 79%

Donkey kong land 3 ( 82%)

Killer instinct (GB) :25%

Killer instinct (SNES): (80%)

The amazing spider-man (73%)

Beetlejuice (GB): 55%

Fortress of fear (GB): 20%

Sneaky snakes (GB) 53%

Championship-pro-am (Gen): 80%

Donkey kong country (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong country 2 (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong countru 3 (snes): 85%

Average score: 69%

 

 

 

 

N64 era:

Perfect Dark (N 64): 95%

Perfect Dark (GBC): 66%

Donkey kong country (GBC): 90%

Conker's pocket tales (GBC): 55%

mickey's speedway USA (GBC): 81%

Mickey's speedway USA (N64): 68%

Donkey Kong 64 (N64): 88%

Banjo-Kazooeie (N64): 92%

Banjo-Tooie (N64): 90%

Blast corps (N64): 89%

Conker's bad fur day (N64): 89%

Diddy Kong Racing (N64): 89%

Golden eye 007 (N64): 95%

Jet Force Gemini (N54): 80%

Killer Instinct Gold (N64): 74%

Total average score: 82.7%

 

 

 

Gamecube-Xbox era:

Starfox Adventures (GC) : 80%

Banjo Pilot (GBA): 66%

Banjo Kazooeie: Grunty's revenge (GBA): 73%

SabreWulf (GBA): 74%

Donkey Kong Contry (GBA): 78%

It''s Mr. Pants (GBA): 76%

Donkey Kong country 2 (GBA): 81%

Donkey Kong Country 3 (GBA): 75.1%

Conker: Live and Reloaded (xbox): 79%

Grabbed by the Ghoulies (xbox) 70%

total Score: 75.2

 

Current Gen

Perfect Dark Zero (xbox 360): 81%

Viva Pinata (X360): 85%

viva Pinata 2 (X360): 83%

Viva pinata (PC): 79%

Viva Pinata (DS): 83%

Jet Pac: Refueled: (X360): 73%

Kameo (X360): 81%

Banjo 3: 78%

Average Score: 80.4%

Final Score:

1º N64 RARE: 82.7%

2º Current RARE: 80.4%

3º Last gen RARE: 75.2%

4º 16-Bit RARE: 69%

 

blahzor

Why are people in this thread accepting this as "ownage"?

Averaging their review scores per generation is very misleading.  Sure, they put out tons of crap in the 8/16 bit era.. but they also put out a handful of games that obliterate anything they've done in the last two gens.. and that's what matters. 

We shouldn't be looking at their overall average but rather at their best games per generation - and to a lesser extent, the number of good games.  Their best games on the SNes and N64 are astounding.  They are excellent show cases of game design.  ON the last gen systems and the 360?  they are just good(or even great) games.. they aren't nearly as memorable, groundbreaking, revolutionary, or masterfully designed.  That's why alot of people have a problem with rare recently, they used to poop magic!  some of the best games of their respective generations.  Not so much anymore.

ALso.. you're using gamerankings for nes and snes games?  IN some of those games cases there are only 1 or 2 reviews.. that's hardly convincing evidence of the quality of those games. What makes those review scores so reliable that you can use them to compare with current games(did people even review games properly back then?)?  ANd, haven't we already accepted a long time ago on system wars that scores don't equal a better game. Some of those games are better then those scores imply(or worse in some cases).

With all of that said.. i certainly do not agree with people who think rare is a poor developer.  There games this gen have been pretty good, and imo are a step up from last generation.  PD0 is nothing special, but viva piniata and kameo are both unique games.  They are good developers, they just aren't crapping magic like they used to.

Well there were some good games and some weren't up to par with the rest of the list in my opinion, but overall yeah it was a good move by Microsoft to get Rare on its side. Perfect Dark might of gotten a good score here on gamespot, but it was just average in my opinion and the rest were above average which were good for any xbox 360 owners. What I liked most was Kameo for this gen by Rare.-DarthMaul-

When we you guys fully understand why PDZ got a 9.0. It is becuase it was a LAUNCH GAME!!! And it had eceptional online and coop features. Yeah the story was a tad bland. But again It had great features right out of the box for a LAUNCH GAME PEOPLE!!! Oh and by the way some great graphics.

The story was bizarre, but the missions themselves were awesome.  If you haven't played them on the harder difficulty levels, you are really missing out.  It isn't just harder difficulty, but more full and interesting mission objectives. 

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

what this thread needs is:

STIKA'S LIST OF RARE DOES NOT SUCK

 

Scores from ALL RARE games from the SNES to the xbox 360 (using game rankings)

 

16- bit era:

Battle toads (SNES) : 78%

Battle toads (gen) : 72%

Battletoads and double dragon: (snes) : 59%

Battletoads and double dragon (gen): 65%

Battle toads (GB) : 77.7%

Battle toads and double dragon (GB): 65%

Battletoads in ragnarock's world (GB) : 75%

Donkey kong land (GB) : 71%

Donkey Kong land 2 (gb) : 79%

Donkey kong land 3 ( 82%)

Killer instinct (GB) :25%

Killer instinct (SNES): (80%)

The amazing spider-man (73%)

Beetlejuice (GB): 55%

Fortress of fear (GB): 20%

Sneaky snakes (GB) 53%

Championship-pro-am (Gen): 80%

Donkey kong country (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong country 2 (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong countru 3 (snes): 85%

Average score: 69%

 

 

 

 

N64 era:

Perfect Dark (N 64): 95%

Perfect Dark (GBC): 66%

Donkey kong country (GBC): 90%

Conker's pocket tales (GBC): 55%

mickey's speedway USA (GBC): 81%

Mickey's speedway USA (N64): 68%

Donkey Kong 64 (N64): 88%

Banjo-Kazooeie (N64): 92%

Banjo-Tooie (N64): 90%

Blast corps (N64): 89%

Conker's bad fur day (N64): 89%

Diddy Kong Racing (N64): 89%

Golden eye 007 (N64): 95%

Jet Force Gemini (N54): 80%

Killer Instinct Gold (N64): 74%

Total average score: 82.7%

 

 

 

Gamecube-Xbox era:

Starfox Adventures (GC) : 80%

Banjo Pilot (GBA): 66%

Banjo Kazooeie: Grunty's revenge (GBA): 73%

SabreWulf (GBA): 74%

Donkey Kong Contry (GBA): 78%

It''s Mr. Pants (GBA): 76%

Donkey Kong country 2 (GBA): 81%

Donkey Kong Country 3 (GBA): 75.1%

Conker: Live and Reloaded (xbox): 79%

Grabbed by the Ghoulies (xbox) 70%

total Score: 75.2

 

Current Gen

Perfect Dark Zero (xbox 360): 81%

Viva Pinata (X360): 85%

viva Pinata 2 (X360): 83%

Viva pinata (PC): 79%

Viva Pinata (DS): 83%

Jet Pac: Refueled: (X360): 73%

Kameo (X360): 81%

Banjo 3: 78%

Average Score: 80.4%

Final Score:

1º N64 RARE: 82.7%

2º Current RARE: 80.4%

3º Last gen RARE: 75.2%

4º 16-Bit RARE: 69%

 

blahzor

Why are people in this thread accepting this as "ownage"?

Averaging their review scores per generation is very misleading.  Sure, they put out tons of crap in the 8/16 bit era.. but they also put out a handful of games that obliterate anything they've done in the last two gens.. and that's what matters. 

We shouldn't be looking at their overall average but rather at their best games per generation - and to a lesser extent, the number of good games.  Their best games on the SNes and N64 are astounding.  They are excellent show cases of game design.  ON the last gen systems and the 360?  they are just good(or even great) games.. they aren't nearly as memorable, groundbreaking, revolutionary, or masterfully designed.  That's why alot of people have a problem with rare recently, they used to poop magic!  some of the best games of their respective generations.  Not so much anymore.

ALso.. you're using gamerankings for nes and snes games?  IN some of those games cases there are only 1 or 2 reviews.. that's hardly convincing evidence of the quality of those games. What makes those review scores so reliable that you can use them to compare with current games(did people even review games properly back then?)?  ANd, haven't we already accepted a long time ago on system wars that scores don't equal a better game. Some of those games are better then those scores imply(or worse in some cases).

With all of that said.. i certainly do not agree with people who think rare is a poor developer.  There games this gen have been pretty good, and imo are a step up from last generation.  PD0 is nothing special, but viva piniata and kameo are both unique games.  They are good developers, they just aren't crapping magic like they used to.

what's funny is that i completly agree with you, however according to system wars mentality scores are the only thing that matter specially gamerankings (even though i prefer metacritic) so really i'm just using system wars mentality against itself

[QUOTE="blahzor"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

what this thread needs is:

STIKA'S LIST OF RARE DOES NOT SUCK

Scores from ALL RARE games from the SNES to the xbox 360 (using game rankings)

16- bit era:

Battle toads (SNES) : 78%

Battle toads (gen) : 72%

Battletoads and double dragon: (snes) : 59%

Battletoads and double dragon (gen): 65%

Battle toads (GB) : 77.7%

Battle toads and double dragon (GB): 65%

Battletoads in ragnarock's world (GB) : 75%

Donkey kong land (GB) : 71%

Donkey Kong land 2 (gb) : 79%

Donkey kong land 3 ( 82%)

Killer instinct (GB) :25%

Killer instinct (SNES): (80%)

The amazing spider-man (73%)

Beetlejuice (GB): 55%

Fortress of fear (GB): 20%

Sneaky snakes (GB) 53%

Championship-pro-am (Gen): 80%

Donkey kong country (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong country 2 (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong countru 3 (snes): 85%

Average score: 69%

N64 era:

Perfect Dark (N 64): 95%

Perfect Dark (GBC): 66%

Donkey kong country (GBC): 90%

Conker's pocket tales (GBC): 55%

mickey's speedway USA (GBC): 81%

Mickey's speedway USA (N64): 68%

Donkey Kong 64 (N64): 88%

Banjo-Kazooeie (N64): 92%

Banjo-Tooie (N64): 90%

Blast corps (N64): 89%

Conker's bad fur day (N64): 89%

Diddy Kong Racing (N64): 89%

Golden eye 007 (N64): 95%

Jet Force Gemini (N54): 80%

Killer Instinct Gold (N64): 74%

Total average score: 82.7%

Gamecube-Xbox era:

Starfox Adventures (GC) : 80%

Banjo Pilot (GBA): 66%

Banjo Kazooeie: Grunty's revenge (GBA): 73%

SabreWulf (GBA): 74%

Donkey Kong Contry (GBA): 78%

It''s Mr. Pants (GBA): 76%

Donkey Kong country 2 (GBA): 81%

Donkey Kong Country 3 (GBA): 75.1%

Conker: Live and Reloaded (xbox): 79%

Grabbed by the Ghoulies (xbox) 70%

total Score: 75.2

Current Gen

Perfect Dark Zero (xbox 360): 81%

Viva Pinata (X360): 85%

viva Pinata 2 (X360): 83%

Viva pinata (PC): 79%

Viva Pinata (DS): 83%

Jet Pac: Refueled: (X360): 73%

Kameo (X360): 81%

Banjo 3: 78%

Average Score: 80.4%

Final Score:

1º N64 RARE: 82.7%

2º Current RARE: 80.4%

3º Last gen RARE: 75.2%

4º 16-Bit RARE: 69%

st1ka

N64 era had 5 games of 90% and above + 4 games of 88-89%

current era has 1 game of 85%

wouldn't that mean N64>current? or have we really come to a point where quantity>quality?

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="blahzor"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

what this thread needs is:

STIKA'S LIST OF RARE DOES NOT SUCK

 

Scores from ALL RARE games from the SNES to the xbox 360 (using game rankings)

 

16- bit era:

Battle toads (SNES) : 78%

Battle toads (gen) : 72%

Battletoads and double dragon: (snes) : 59%

Battletoads and double dragon (gen): 65%

Battle toads (GB) : 77.7%

Battle toads and double dragon (GB): 65%

Battletoads in ragnarock's world (GB) : 75%

Donkey kong land (GB) : 71%

Donkey Kong land 2 (gb) : 79%

Donkey kong land 3 ( 82%)

Killer instinct (GB) :25%

Killer instinct (SNES): (80%)

The amazing spider-man (73%)

Beetlejuice (GB): 55%

Fortress of fear (GB): 20%

Sneaky snakes (GB) 53%

Championship-pro-am (Gen): 80%

Donkey kong country (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong country 2 (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong countru 3 (snes): 85%

Average score: 69%

 

 

 

 

N64 era:

Perfect Dark (N 64): 95%

Perfect Dark (GBC): 66%

Donkey kong country (GBC): 90%

Conker's pocket tales (GBC): 55%

mickey's speedway USA (GBC): 81%

Mickey's speedway USA (N64): 68%

Donkey Kong 64 (N64): 88%

Banjo-Kazooeie (N64): 92%

Banjo-Tooie (N64): 90%

Blast corps (N64): 89%

Conker's bad fur day (N64): 89%

Diddy Kong Racing (N64): 89%

Golden eye 007 (N64): 95%

Jet Force Gemini (N54): 80%

Killer Instinct Gold (N64): 74%

Total average score: 82.7%

 

 

 

Gamecube-Xbox era:

Starfox Adventures (GC) : 80%

Banjo Pilot (GBA): 66%

Banjo Kazooeie: Grunty's revenge (GBA): 73%

SabreWulf (GBA): 74%

Donkey Kong Contry (GBA): 78%

It''s Mr. Pants (GBA): 76%

Donkey Kong country 2 (GBA): 81%

Donkey Kong Country 3 (GBA): 75.1%

Conker: Live and Reloaded (xbox): 79%

Grabbed by the Ghoulies (xbox) 70%

total Score: 75.2

 

Current Gen

Perfect Dark Zero (xbox 360): 81%

Viva Pinata (X360): 85%

viva Pinata 2 (X360): 83%

Viva pinata (PC): 79%

Viva Pinata (DS): 83%

Jet Pac: Refueled: (X360): 73%

Kameo (X360): 81%

Banjo 3: 78%

Average Score: 80.4%

Final Score:

1º N64 RARE: 82.7%

2º Current RARE: 80.4%

3º Last gen RARE: 75.2%

4º 16-Bit RARE: 69%

 

danish-death

N64 era had 5 games of 90% and above + 4 games of 88-89%

current era has 1 game of 85%

wouldn't that mean N64>current? or have we really come to a point where quantity>quality?

read the post above

[QUOTE="blahzor"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

what this thread needs is:

STIKA'S LIST OF RARE DOES NOT SUCK

Scores from ALL RARE games from the SNES to the xbox 360 (using game rankings)

16- bit era:

Battle toads (SNES) : 78%

Battle toads (gen) : 72%

Battletoads and double dragon: (snes) : 59%

Battletoads and double dragon (gen): 65%

Battle toads (GB) : 77.7%

Battle toads and double dragon (GB): 65%

Battletoads in ragnarock's world (GB) : 75%

Donkey kong land (GB) : 71%

Donkey Kong land 2 (gb) : 79%

Donkey kong land 3 ( 82%)

Killer instinct (GB) :25%

Killer instinct (SNES): (80%)

The amazing spider-man (73%)

Beetlejuice (GB): 55%

Fortress of fear (GB): 20%

Sneaky snakes (GB) 53%

Championship-pro-am (Gen): 80%

Donkey kong country (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong country 2 (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong countru 3 (snes): 85%

Average score: 69%

N64 era:

Perfect Dark (N 64): 95%

Perfect Dark (GBC): 66%

Donkey kong country (GBC): 90%

Conker's pocket tales (GBC): 55%

mickey's speedway USA (GBC): 81%

Mickey's speedway USA (N64): 68%

Donkey Kong 64 (N64): 88%

Banjo-Kazooeie (N64): 92%

Banjo-Tooie (N64): 90%

Blast corps (N64): 89%

Conker's bad fur day (N64): 89%

Diddy Kong Racing (N64): 89%

Golden eye 007 (N64): 95%

Jet Force Gemini (N54): 80%

Killer Instinct Gold (N64): 74%

Total average score: 82.7%

Gamecube-Xbox era:

Starfox Adventures (GC) : 80%

Banjo Pilot (GBA): 66%

Banjo Kazooeie: Grunty's revenge (GBA): 73%

SabreWulf (GBA): 74%

Donkey Kong Contry (GBA): 78%

It''s Mr. Pants (GBA): 76%

Donkey Kong country 2 (GBA): 81%

Donkey Kong Country 3 (GBA): 75.1%

Conker: Live and Reloaded (xbox): 79%

Grabbed by the Ghoulies (xbox) 70%

total Score: 75.2

Current Gen

Perfect Dark Zero (xbox 360): 81%

Viva Pinata (X360): 85%

viva Pinata 2 (X360): 83%

Viva pinata (PC): 79%

Viva Pinata (DS): 83%

Jet Pac: Refueled: (X360): 73%

Kameo (X360): 81%

Banjo 3: 78%

Average Score: 80.4%

Final Score:

1º N64 RARE: 82.7%

2º Current RARE: 80.4%

3º Last gen RARE: 75.2%

4º 16-Bit RARE: 69%

skektek

Why are people in this thread accepting this as "ownage"?

Averaging their review scores per generation is very misleading. Sure, they put out tons of crap in the 8/16 bit era.. but they also put out a handful of games that obliterate anything they've done in the last two gens.. and that's what matters.

We shouldn't be looking at their overall average but rather at their best games per generation - and to a lesser extent, the number of good games. Their best games on the SNes and N64 are astounding. They are excellent show cases of game design. ON the last gen systems and the 360? they are just good(or even great) games.. they aren't nearly as memorable, groundbreaking, revolutionary, or masterfully designed. That's why alot of people have a problem with rare recently, they used to poop magic! some of the best games of their respective generations. Not so much anymore.

ALso.. you're using gamerankings for nes and snes games? IN some of those games cases there are only 1 or 2 reviews.. that's hardly convincing evidence of the quality of those games. What makes those review scores so reliable that you can use them to compare with current games(did people even review games properly back then?)? ANd, haven't we already accepted a long time ago on system wars that scores don't equal a better game. Some of those games are better then those scores imply(or worse in some cases).

With all of that said.. i certainly do not agree with people who think rare is a poor developer. There games this gen have been pretty good, and imo are a step up from last generation. PD0 is nothing special, but viva piniata and kameo are both unique games. They are good developers, they just aren't crapping magic like they used to.

People have you ever stopped and thought. How it was much easier to say hey these games are GREAT on N64. It's becuase the N64 had only a hand full of good games and yeah mostly RARE!!!. It was becuase the N64 was mostly overshadowed by the greatness of the PS1 both in sales and great games. So it's so much easier for most of you to think so foundly of RARE back then becuase there was not nearly as much else to look at compared to PS1.

Same thing for this gen with RARE. There games are great but it's hardser to look at them becuase WE ALL KNOW THE 360 IS A GREAT GAME PRODUCING MONSTER.

Rare is a terrible developer. Banjo only got an 8.5 because it was scored by the worst reviewer on this site, it's inferior garbage jst like Perfect Dark Zero

Rare's only success this gen has been Viva Pinata. A quality sim that is too complicated for the young audience it is aimed at and too cutesy for the teenage boys who buy 360's.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

what this thread needs is:

STIKA'S LIST OF RARE DOES NOT SUCK

Scores from ALL RARE games from the SNES to the xbox 360 (using game rankings)

16- bit era:

Battle toads (SNES) : 78%

Battle toads (gen) : 72%

Battletoads and double dragon: (snes) : 59%

Battletoads and double dragon (gen): 65%

Battle toads (GB) : 77.7%

Battle toads and double dragon (GB): 65%

Battletoads in ragnarock's world (GB) : 75%

Donkey kong land (GB) : 71%

Donkey Kong land 2 (gb) : 79%

Donkey kong land 3 ( 82%)

Killer instinct (GB) :25%

Killer instinct (SNES): (80%)

The amazing spider-man (73%)

Beetlejuice (GB): 55%

Fortress of fear (GB): 20%

Sneaky snakes (GB) 53%

Championship-pro-am (Gen): 80%

Donkey kong country (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong country 2 (SNES): 92%

Donkey kong countru 3 (snes): 85%

Average score: 69%

N64 era:

Perfect Dark (N 64): 95%

Perfect Dark (GBC): 66%

Donkey kong country (GBC): 90%

Conker's pocket tales (GBC): 55%

mickey's speedway USA (GBC): 81%

Mickey's speedway USA (N64): 68%

Donkey Kong 64 (N64): 88%

Banjo-Kazooeie (N64): 92%

Banjo-Tooie (N64): 90%

Blast corps (N64): 89%

Conker's bad fur day (N64): 89%

Diddy Kong Racing (N64): 89%

Golden eye 007 (N64): 95%

Jet Force Gemini (N54): 80%

Killer Instinct Gold (N64): 74%

Total average score: 82.7%

Gamecube-Xbox era:

Starfox Adventures (GC) : 80%

Banjo Pilot (GBA): 66%

Banjo Kazooeie: Grunty's revenge (GBA): 73%

SabreWulf (GBA): 74%

Donkey Kong Contry (GBA): 78%

It''s Mr. Pants (GBA): 76%

Donkey Kong country 2 (GBA): 81%

Donkey Kong Country 3 (GBA): 75.1%

Conker: Live and Reloaded (xbox): 79%

Grabbed by the Ghoulies (xbox) 70%

total Score: 75.2

Current Gen

Perfect Dark Zero (xbox 360): 81%

Viva Pinata (X360): 85%

viva Pinata 2 (X360): 83%

Viva pinata (PC): 79%

Viva Pinata (DS): 83%

Jet Pac: Refueled: (X360): 73%

Kameo (X360): 81%

Banjo 3: 78%

Average Score: 80.4%

Final Score:

1º N64 RARE: 82.7%

2º Current RARE: 80.4%

3º Last gen RARE: 75.2%

4º 16-Bit RARE: 69%

danish-death

N64 era had 5 games of 90% and above + 4 games of 88-89%

current era has 1 game of 85%

wouldn't that mean N64>current? or have we really come to a point where quantity>quality?

That's what it says in his post. :|

Rare is a terrible developer. Banjo only got an 8.5 because it was scored by the worst reviewer on this site, it's inferior garbage jst like Perfect Dark Zero

Rare's only success this gen has been Viva Pinata. A quality sim that is too complicated for the young audience it is aimed at and too cutesy for the teenage boys who buy 360's.

MarloStanfield

[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"]

Rare is a terrible developer. Banjo only got an 8.5 because it was scored by the worst reviewer on this site, it's inferior garbage jst like Perfect Dark Zero

Rare's only success this gen has been Viva Pinata. A quality sim that is too complicated for the young audience it is aimed at and too cutesy for the teenage boys who buy 360's.

Ninja-Hippo

I beleive Xplay gave it a 5 out of 5 also.

It's just blind ps3 haters saying otherwise. Upset I guess for the abysmal LBP sales:lol:

Rare is a terrible developer. Banjo only got an 8.5 because it was scored by the worst reviewer on this site, it's inferior garbage jst like Perfect Dark Zero

Rare's only success this gen has been Viva Pinata. A quality sim that is too complicated for the young audience it is aimed at and too cutesy for the teenage boys who buy 360's.

MarloStanfield

[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"]

Rare is a terrible developer. Banjo only got an 8.5 because it was scored by the worst reviewer on this site, it's inferior garbage jst like Perfect Dark Zero

Rare's only success this gen has been Viva Pinata. A quality sim that is too complicated for the young audience it is aimed at and too cutesy for the teenage boys who buy 360's.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

It boggles my mind:? When people say they have fallen? Since when has solid AA's and an AAA been bad:roll: Not to mention a whole lot of people really liked Kameo a solid high AA. Go figure?

[ Giant Bomb gave it 5 stars. IGN gave it 8.3 - are they all horrible reviewers too? :| EDIT: also, please stop quoting that massive post people :?Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="MarloStanfield"]

Rare is a terrible developer. Banjo only got an 8.5 because it was scored by the worst reviewer on this site, it's inferior garbage jst like Perfect Dark Zero

Rare's only success this gen has been Viva Pinata. A quality sim that is too complicated for the young audience it is aimed at and too cutesy for the teenage boys who buy 360's.

Slappy_Pappy09

It boggles my mind:? When people say they have fallen? Since when has solid AA's and an AAA been bad:roll: Not to mention a whole lot of people really liked Kameo a solid high AA. Go figure?

[QUOTE="spectravoid"]it might have been a good acquisition but now compare MIcrosoft Rare to Nintendo RareNintendo put out: Killer Instinct Donkey Kong Banjo Kazooie Perfect Dark Golden Eye Star Fox Diddy Kong Racing Conker's Bad Fur Day Jet Force Gemini Viva Pinata Battle Toads Blast CorpsNedemis

What are you talking about? Post nintendo rare is a horrible barrel of fail

What are you talking about? Post nintendo rare is a horrible barrel of fail

blingchu55

[QUOTE="blingchu55"]

What are you talking about? Post nintendo rare is a horrible barrel of fail

RABicle

PDZ and viva pinata sold at least one million

kameo sold 700K 

how is this floping hard?

PD Zero was GIVEN AWAY. Microsoft held some big promo event in Australia and everyone who attending (about 50,000 people) were GIVEN a copy of the game. It was in bargin bins within 6 months of launch. You cannot trade it into Gamestop/EB stores because they know it's value is nothing. Similar story with Kameo. Now, what part of that involves Microsoft recooping ANY of the money they splashed out to acquire Rare. It was a blank cheque and Nintendo wrote the biggest number they could imagine on it.RABicle

50.000 copies is a long way from 1 million, it doesn't matter if the game was in the bargain bins 6 months after launch, even bargain bin deals generate income.

and you still didn't explain viva pinata

Sure, theyre not too shabby, but lets be honest. Do theyre recent titles really compare to what they used to put outÉ (those És would be question marks, my keyboard is playing games with me)

Just look back at the N64 days: Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie and Tooie (TRUE platformers, unlike nuts and bolts) Jet Force Gemini, Conkers Bad Fur Day.

 If you ask me they have yet to put out a game that puts them back in the top spots of game developers where they used to be.

 Give me Perfect Dark 2 or Jet Force Gemini 2 and make them as great as they were back then.

PDZ 9.0 AAA launch game great game great graphics great coop and online play for a launch game.

PDZ 2 is on it's way and It will most defiantly bring the name back to true glory.

Kameo 8.7 AA Great game with great graphics for an early launch game.

Viva Pinata 1 8.3 2 8.5 Both have been great games and a good new franchise.

Banjo Nuts & Bolts 8.5 AA Taken chances took the franchise in a new direction and it has payed off great game with SPECTACULAR GRAPHICS. Oh and only $39.99 and a free copy of Banjo Kazooie in HD:shock:. Yeah don't get any better. Thanks Rare!!!

With speculation of a new Killer Instinct. WOW yeah and among others and this is even referenced in Banjo.

Bottum line is MS is kicking *** and taking names. And only a true blind fanboy would turn there nose to MS and Rare. By the way the new Live update is PHENOMINAL only haters would say other wise.

Rare is BACK and guess what MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Them.

PD Zero was GIVEN AWAY. Microsoft held some big promo event in Australia and everyone who attending (about 50,000 people) were GIVEN a copy of the game. It was in bargin bins within 6 months of launch. You cannot trade it into Gamestop/EB stores because they know it's value is nothing. Similar story with Kameo. Now, what part of that involves Microsoft recooping ANY of the money they splashed out to acquire Rare. It was a blank cheque and Nintendo wrote the biggest number they could imagine on it.RABicle

Forgive me but I do not think any of us should take a word of yours as any credit once so ever.

Hello since when has any launch game 2-3 years later been worth SQUAT at an EB or Gamestop. Geeezzzzz:?