Rare is alive

or so it seems

now get your ass to work and release some good games.

I'm old enough to Remember when Rare made good games. Nobody would even know or care about Rare these days if they weren't one of the few 360 first party developers.

Perhaps. If being a shell of your fomer self counts as being "alive." :P There could be a chance they'll release must have software for Natal but I'm not counting on it.

Rare has never been more alive creating what.1 AAA and 4 AA's this gen and that puts them in a league that only a handful of other devs that can boast the same. :P

Anyway I love what they are saying ( except I want a new Conker !! ) and can't wait until the veil is lifted at E3. :D

Rarehas never been more alive creating what.1 AAA and 4 AA'sthis gen and that puts them in a league that only a handful of other devs that can boast the same. :P

Anyway I love what they are saying and can't wait until the veil is lifted at E3. :D

SecretPolice

I'm old enough to Remember when Rare made good games. Nobody would even know or care about Rare these days if they weren't one of the few 360 first party developers.

Grawse

Yeah Rare have made some awesome games this gen, but I'm hoping for something new at E3. Viva Pinata was a really good game.Ravensmash

I'm old enough to Remember when Rare made good games. Nobody would even know or care about Rare these days if they weren't one of the few 360 first party developers.

Grawse

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skektek

...in name only.

skektek

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SilentlyMad

Meh, they have fallen from grace. It is simple denial to state otherwise.

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"][QUOTE="skektek"]

...in name only.

skektek

Meh, they have fallen from grace. It is simple denial to state otherwise.

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"][QUOTE="skektek"]

...in name only.

skektek

Meh, they have fallen from grace. It is simple denial to state otherwise.

While i love their old IPs i would love them to create a new platformer IP. Something with Mario Galaxy series quality

I think they were best with Nintendo to be honest.

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Still pumping out lots of great games. 1 AAA and 4AA this gen.SilentlyMad

Meh, they have fallen from grace. It is simple denial to state otherwise.

I have been disappointed with Rare. I think Kameo is a good game and Perfect Dark Zero is fun but they don't release enough titles and spend too much time on games marketed towards kids. I would like to see Perfect Dark 2 or a new Conker game or even a new platformer something the 360 really needs. I have given up on Rare.

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[QUOTE="skektek"]

Meh, they have fallen from grace. It is simple denial to state otherwise.

KingTuttle

As I said before; many, many, many devs would be ecstatic with those numbers. :)

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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]Still pumping out lots of great games. 1 AAA and 4AA this gen.Boomshaffted

Meh, they have fallen from grace. It is simple denial to state otherwise.

It's all relative. Is New Rare good? Yes. Are they as good as Old Rare? No way.

Rare has never been more alive creating what.1 AAA and 4 AA's this gen and that puts them in a league that only a handful of other devs that can boast the same. :P

Anyway I love what they are saying ( except I want a new Conker !! ) and can't wait until the veil is lifted at E3. :D

SecretPolice

Problem with Rare is all the good developers have left, sure they've had 1 AAA and 4 AA games this gen but to suggest current Rare is better than or equal too N64 Rare is ridiculous.

Banjo Kazooie & Banjo Tooie >>>>>>>>>>>>> Banjo N&B

Goldeneye/Perfect Dark >>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect Dark Zero

Jet Force Gemini/Conker >>>>>>>>> Kameo

I dont even consider Viva Pinata a real game, more like a weird farmville /pokemon fail crossover. Pinata is simply boring by Rares standards. Plus you couldnt say its better than other Rare games like Blast Corps, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong Country, Donkey Kong 64 & Killer Instinct

Dont get me wrong, i am a massive fan of Rare and have all their games up to and including their 360 releases but with the staff loses they've had over the years, their best work is clearly behind them. The fact they're working on gimmicky natal games (lets face it motion control games are gimmicks, especially ones without controllers like natal) instead of sequals to proven franchises or at least a proper Banjo game (360 could do with some platformers) says to me they arent any closer to recapturing that Rare magic from the Nintendo days.

I'm old enough to Remember when Rare made good games. Nobody would even know or care about Rare these days if they weren't one of the few 360 first party developers.

Grawse

They still make great games, Kameo being one of the most memorable games this gen, and Viva Pinata has been a big success as has PD0.

Rare is good now, but in the N64 era they weren't good, they were Awesome.

While i love their old IPs i would love them to create a new platformer IP. Something with Mario Galaxy series quality

PAL360

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Meh, they have fallen from grace. It is simple denial to state otherwise.

skektek

It's all relative. Is New Rare good? Yes. Are they as good as Old Rare? No way.

After reading the article its probably a good thing they leave their legacy behind them and not reboot old ip's.

Must be the only company in the world that would rather screw around with winning formula (Banjo Kazooie, which many considered better than Mario 64, myself included) by adding some kind of gimmick to it (Nuts & Bolts which as a platformer fails when compared to Mario Galaxy or even Ratchet & clank for that matter) than stick to a winning formula and please its fan base.

I think they wont touch old iP's because they wont be able to match the awesomeness that was mid 90's Rare

My guess is they'll release Perfect Dark 2 as an on rails light gun game for natal (or would that be imaginary finger gun game)and all we can do is watch them kill another franchise, you'll see :P

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While i love their old IPs i would love them to create a new platformer IP. Something with Mario Galaxy series quality

zarshack

But your in a hot air ballon and its not a platformer but more of a flight sim :P

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Meh, they have fallen from grace. It is simple denial to state otherwise.

they made great games with nintendo,and with ms, good games so far.

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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]Still pumping out lots of great games. 1 AAA and 4AA this gen.SecretPolice

Meh, they have fallen from grace. It is simple denial to state otherwise.

Out of their 4 real xbox360 games, only one was AAA

Their last 3 games were arcade games and their unannounced game got canned in favor of a Natal game

Their designers keep on leaving the studios, most of the orginial inhouse staff that made rare great has left.

Hell even Stevie Malpass left last year after he designed Nuts and Bolts, he may of not been one of their best designers but he was one of the good ones.

I love Rare, Rare is one of my favorite companies of all time, I follow them like a hawk, but they have fallen from heaven.Not to say new Rare is terrible, they are pretty good but still a shadow of who they once were.

I only hope Microsoft is backing Rare with some budget so this natal game can blow my mind

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I'm old enough to Remember when Rare made good games. Nobody would even know or care about Rare these days if they weren't one of the few 360 first party developers.

Snugenz

They still make great games, Kameo being one of the most memorable games this gen, and Viva Pinata has been a big success as has PD0.

Then why were games like Kameo 2 , Conker Other Bad Day, and Perfect Dark 2 cancelled by Microsoft in favor of Natal development?

Here is one of MS's best developers and they haven't done jack this gen. I mean lets face it, the games they could be putting could blow away the ones that they have created. I mean come on, KI3 would murder Viva Pinata. I just don't understand what they are doing. :?

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[QUOTE="Grawse"]

I'm old enough to Remember when Rare made good games. Nobody would even know or care about Rare these days if they weren't one of the few 360 first party developers.

They still make great games, Kameo being one of the most memorable games this gen, and Viva Pinata has been a big success as has PD0.

Then why were games like Kameo 2 , Conker Other Bad Day, and Perfect Dark 2 cancelled by Microsoft in favor of Natal development?

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[QUOTE="Grawse"]

I'm old enough to Remember when Rare made good games. Nobody would even know or care about Rare these days if they weren't one of the few 360 first party developers.

InfinityMugen

They still make great games, Kameo being one of the most memorable games this gen, and Viva Pinata has been a big success as has PD0.

Then why were games like Kameo 2 , Conker Other Bad Day, and Perfect Dark 2 cancelled by Microsoft in favor of Natal development?

They were?

[QUOTE="KingTuttle"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Me thinks him not the one in denial. :P

SecretPolice

As I said before; many, many, many devs would be ecstatic with those numbers. :)

Oh and their AAA? PD0? Don't be bragging about that game. If a game's score is the final word then let's talk about how THPS3 is one of the elite/ supreme gaming masterpieces of all time. There is some margin for error and PD0 is firmly in it.

I didn't like Kameo, I think that's all of their stuff I've played this gen. I got it with my used 360, and sold them both shortly thereafter.

Rare is a joke now. They were Nintendo's bread and butter on the N64 (and did well on the SNES with Donkey Kong and Killer Instinct), but now they have pretty much dropped off of the face of the earth. The only games they put out are of the "eh, it's pretty good" variety, or occasionally the "ZOMGWTF this is a disgrace to the franchise!" variety (Perfect Dark Zero, Banjo's Nuts). It's pretty clear that very little if any of Rare's original talent still remains at the company, with most having long since departed for greener pastures. It's a shame, because they were once a titan of the industry. Now, they're a disgrace to their former reputation. One thing's for sure though-- Nintendo must have been laughing all the way to the bank when they sold Rare to Microsoft. MS thought they were buying the goose that laid golden eggs, but it turns out that it had already laid its last one on the N64. Nintendo did the smart thing, and MS did the impulsive thing. They seem to have had a bit of a problem with that, because they did the same thing with Silicon Knights and Too Human, and it turned out to be a massive festering turd of a game that almost no-one but the most dedicated of Xbots actually bothered with.Timstuff

When I first heard that Nintendo was selling Rare I was like WTF? Are you stupid? But in retrospect Nintendo must have seen the writing on the wall.

They are aren't the same company...

You understand that most of the Rare staff left way back then and are working for other game studios now, right?

Sounds like a good policy. Games like Killer Instinct really don't need to be remade.

Just because you don't like them, doesn't mean their offerings this generation aren't as fantastic as those in the N64 days. Rare is still a quality developer, that are playing around with many new ideas, actually trying to push the industry forward, instead of just giving fanboys caught up in nostalgia what they think they want.

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[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

They still make great games, Kameo being one of the most memorable games this gen, and Viva Pinata has been a big success as has PD0.

Snugenz

Then why were games like Kameo 2 , Conker Other Bad Day, and Perfect Dark 2 cancelled by Microsoft in favor of Natal development?

They were?

I don't know where this myth came from that Rare made nothing but stellar AAA games back in the day. Rare always made on average "good" games, which they continue to do. They've had a few AAA titles, but that's not surprising considering they've made over 100.

Just because you don't like them, doesn't mean their offerings this generation aren't as fantastic as those in the N64 days. Rare is still a quality developer, that are playing around with many new ideas, actually trying to push the industry forward, instead of just giving fanboys caught up in nostalgia what they think they want.

foxhound_fox

"Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. But today is a gift, and that is why it's called the present."