RARE takes as much time as they need to make.....

[QUOTE="saywat11"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]Banjo is a horrible game, horrible. I dont know why you guys act like that game was actually fun. It was probably the stupidest game I have ever played.club-sandwich

so I gave probably the best online shooter a 9.5...so i cant talk? Nice logic there. Banjo is a pathetic mario 64 wannabe.

You gave Assassin's Creed a 10.

/self owned.

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]Banjo is a horrible game, horrible. I dont know why you guys act like that game was actually fun. It was probably the stupidest game I have ever played.saywat11

so I gave probably the best online shooter a 9.5...so i cant talk? Nice logic there. Banjo is a pathetic mario 64 wannabe.

Banjo and Mario are not only vastly different, but Banjo beats it in every way.

[QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="saywat11"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]Banjo is a horrible game, horrible. I dont know why you guys act like that game was actually fun. It was probably the stupidest game I have ever played.numba1234

so I gave probably the best online shooter a 9.5...so i cant talk? Nice logic there. Banjo is a pathetic mario 64 wannabe.

9.6 (Banjo Tooie)>9.5 (Banjo Kazooie)>9.4 (Super Mario 64)

Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie are far better than Super Mario 64. While the latter is a good game, there isn't much challenge or new things along the way to keep the player interested for too long. On top of that, it's lacking a real storyline. Banjo Tooie and Kazooie both have new moves throughout the whole game and have some of the most varied game play in a platformer, ever. Transformations add a bit to it, too.

Give it another shot.

i think its better then mario 64, the environments seemed better and the enemys were more interesting in the banjo games

[QUOTE="saywat11"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]Banjo is a horrible game, horrible. I dont know why you guys act like that game was actually fun. It was probably the stupidest game I have ever played.KrazyKenKutarag

so I gave probably the best online shooter a 9.5...so i cant talk? Nice logic there. Banjo is a pathetic mario 64 wannabe.

Not only are Banjo and Mario 64 vastly different, Banjo beats it in very way.

[QUOTE="KrazyKenKutarag"][QUOTE="saywat11"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]Banjo is a horrible game, horrible. I dont know why you guys act like that game was actually fun. It was probably the stupidest game I have ever played.numba1234

so I gave probably the best online shooter a 9.5...so i cant talk? Nice logic there. Banjo is a pathetic mario 64 wannabe.

Not only are Banjo and Mario 64 vastly different, Banjo beats it in very way.

/thread

I only played the first Banjo but it seemed to me the difference between it and other 3D platformers is there was no guard rail or hand holding. They told you how to use something but as far as doing anything effective gamewise it was up to you to figure out if you could actually float out to that ledge and jump from there to get the cookie or you had to find a higher spot or you needed some other power altogether.

I might be wrong about that memory it's been a very long time.

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]Banjo is a horrible game, horrible. I dont know why you guys act like that game was actually fun. It was probably the stupidest game I have ever played.saywat11

so I gave probably the best online shooter a 9.5...so i cant talk? Nice logic there. Banjo is a pathetic mario 64 wannabe.

You gave Assassin's Creed a 10.

/self owned.

you = owned.

[QUOTE="KrazyKenKutarag"][QUOTE="saywat11"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]Banjo is a horrible game, horrible. I dont know why you guys act like that game was actually fun. It was probably the stupidest game I have ever played.numba1234

so I gave probably the best online shooter a 9.5...so i cant talk? Nice logic there. Banjo is a pathetic mario 64 wannabe.

Not only are Banjo and Mario 64 vastly different, Banjo beats it in very way.

nope it isnt, referre to my above reasons, the enemys felt really plane in mario 64, the gameplay in mario 64 was really simple, where as in the banjo games the gameplay was evolving as you progressed, i disagree with you about the levels being broken, i found them more enjoyable because they felt bigger, most of the mario 64 levels felt just like one big room, minus a few

[QUOTE="KrazyKenKutarag"][QUOTE="saywat11"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]Banjo is a horrible game, horrible. I dont know why you guys act like that game was actually fun. It was probably the stupidest game I have ever played.numba1234

so I gave probably the best online shooter a 9.5...so i cant talk? Nice logic there. Banjo is a pathetic mario 64 wannabe.

Not only are Banjo and Mario 64 vastly different, Banjo beats it in very way.

I prefered the gameplay of Banjo to Mario 64, but thats largely a preference. The levels were fantastic, in Tooie they were a tad big, but but in Kazooie they where challenging as well as fun. The humor also added to the feel of the games. I felt Banjo had more varied and interesting bosses and enemies as well. If you think the Banjo series is terrible, good for you, just don't treat your opinion as a fact.

[QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="saywat11"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]Banjo is a horrible game, horrible. I dont know why you guys act like that game was actually fun. It was probably the stupidest game I have ever played.numba1234

so I gave probably the best online shooter a 9.5...so i cant talk? Nice logic there. Banjo is a pathetic mario 64 wannabe.

9.6 (Banjo Tooie)>9.5 (Banjo Kazooie)>9.4 (Super Mario 64)

Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie are far better than Super Mario 64. While the latter is a good game, there isn't much challenge or new things along the way to keep the player interested for too long. On top of that, it's lacking a real storyline. Banjo Tooie and Kazooie both have new moves throughout the whole game and have some of the most varied game play in a platformer, ever. Transformations add a bit to it, too.

Give it another shot.

Trust me: There will be tons of people.

Also, it's rated that high for a reason...

That said, THPS3 is the best game ever made. At least in those standards :(. Banjo series deserves at best a 6, or 6.5. Rayman 2, Rocket Robot, Donkey kong 64, and super mario 64 were better platformers.

I played it back in December 2007, and I was wondering how well it would hold up... It holds up incredibly well, and it beats some games even by today's standards. Super Mario Galaxy is the only platformer that tops those two games.

[QUOTE="saywat11"][QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]Banjo is a horrible game, horrible. I dont know why you guys act like that game was actually fun. It was probably the stupidest game I have ever played.club-sandwich

so I gave probably the best online shooter a 9.5...so i cant talk? Nice logic there. Banjo is a pathetic mario 64 wannabe.

You gave Assassin's Creed a 10.

/self owned.

you = owned.

So you would rather mislead people than give a game the score it deserves?

I question your credibility on Banjo now.

See what greed has gotten you?

[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="KrazyKenKutarag"][QUOTE="saywat11"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]Banjo is a horrible game, horrible. I dont know why you guys act like that game was actually fun. It was probably the stupidest game I have ever played.linkin_guy109

so I gave probably the best online shooter a 9.5...so i cant talk? Nice logic there. Banjo is a pathetic mario 64 wannabe.

Not only are Banjo and Mario 64 vastly different, Banjo beats it in very way.

nope it isnt, referre to my above reasons, the enemys felt really plane in mario 64, the gameplay in mario 64 was really simple, where as in the banjo games the gameplay was evolving as you progressed, i disagree with you about the levels being broken, i found them more enjoyable because they felt bigger, most of the mario 64 levels felt just like one big room, minus a few

One thing I have to say, in both Banjo 1, and Banjo 2 they did a good job with the first level.

So you would rather mislead people than give a game the score it deserves?

I question your credibility on Banjo now.

See what greed has gotten you?

saywat11

[QUOTE="saywat11"]

So you would rather mislead people than give a game the score it deserves?

I question your credibility on Banjo now.

See what greed has gotten you?

club-sandwich

You still scored the game a 10.0 which shows up in player reviews. That game was awful beyond awfulness, im sure you know why. So since you scored AC a 10...and that deserves a 7...Banjo....a 6? maybe 7?

[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"][QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="KrazyKenKutarag"][QUOTE="saywat11"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]Banjo is a horrible game, horrible. I dont know why you guys act like that game was actually fun. It was probably the stupidest game I have ever played.numba1234

so I gave probably the best online shooter a 9.5...so i cant talk? Nice logic there. Banjo is a pathetic mario 64 wannabe.

Not only are Banjo and Mario 64 vastly different, Banjo beats it in very way.

nope it isnt, referre to my above reasons, the enemys felt really plane in mario 64, the gameplay in mario 64 was really simple, where as in the banjo games the gameplay was evolving as you progressed, i disagree with you about the levels being broken, i found them more enjoyable because they felt bigger, most of the mario 64 levels felt just like one big room, minus a few

Thats because the Banjo series has had more of a sand box gameplay attitude, not holding your hand, you can go by it any way you want. If you couldn't traverse the levels or keptfalling off legdes, it wasn't the games fault, it's yours. I had very little problem with the gameplay and levels. Please, you can't win.

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]

So you would rather mislead people than give a game the score it deserves?

I question your credibility on Banjo now.

See what greed has gotten you?

saywat11

You still scored the game a 10.0 which shows up in player reviews. That game was awful beyond awfulness, im sure you know why. So since you scored AC a 10...and that deserves a 7...Banjo....a 6? maybe 7?

[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="linkin_guy109"][QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="KrazyKenKutarag"][QUOTE="saywat11"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="saywat11"]Banjo is a horrible game, horrible. I dont know why you guys act like that game was actually fun. It was probably the stupidest game I have ever played.KrazyKenKutarag

so I gave probably the best online shooter a 9.5...so i cant talk? Nice logic there. Banjo is a pathetic mario 64 wannabe.

Not only are Banjo and Mario 64 vastly different, Banjo beats it in very way.

nope it isnt, referre to my above reasons, the enemys felt really plane in mario 64, the gameplay in mario 64 was really simple, where as in the banjo games the gameplay was evolving as you progressed, i disagree with you about the levels being broken, i found them more enjoyable because they felt bigger, most of the mario 64 levels felt just like one big room, minus a few

Thats because the Banjo series has had more of a sand box gameplay attitude, not holding your hand, you can go by it any way you want. If you couldn't traverse the levels or keptfalling off legdes, it wasn't the games fault, it's yours. I had very little problem with the gameplay and levels. Please, you can't win.

It was my fault that I couldn't find my way through azurik first level, it is my fault that I found killzone 1 boring, and it is my fault that I couldn't play lair with motion sensing. Or it could be the fault of the developer for having bad level designs.numba1234

I never had any problems, Lots of poeple never had any problems. I wouldn't put the blame on the developers because you had a problem traversing the game. Lair is a totally different subject.

It was my fault that I couldn't find my way through azurik first level, it is my fault that I found killzone 1 boring, and it is my fault that I couldn't play lair with motion sensing. Or it could be the fault of the developer for having bad level designs. numba1234

no it was your fault :P

[QUOTE="numba1234"]It was my fault that I couldn't find my way through azurik first level, it is my fault that I found killzone 1 boring, and it is my fault that I couldn't play lair with motion sensing. Or it could be the fault of the developer for having bad level designs.KrazyKenKutarag

I never had any problems, Lots of poeple never had any problems. I wouldn't put the blame on the developers because you had a problem traversing the game. Lair is a totally different subject.

[QUOTE="KrazyKenKutarag"]

[QUOTE="numba1234"]It was my fault that I couldn't find my way through azurik first level, it is my fault that I found killzone 1 boring, and it is my fault that I couldn't play lair with motion sensing. Or it could be the fault of the developer for having bad level designs.numba1234

I never had any problems, Lots of poeple never had any problems. I wouldn't put the blame on the developers because you had a problem traversing the game. Lair is a totally different subject.

But many more did. Few people had problems traversing the Banjo Kazooie levels, but many more found it simple.

For me Banjo Kazooie and Tooie are the two best 3d platforming games I have played till this day. Mario Galaxy is great, but I dislike how all the levels are so linear.

As much as it would suck to see this game delayed till '09, if that's what it takes for them to be happy with it then I am all for it. That's how rare used to do it back in the 64 and snes days, and it definately worked back then.

the thing is, it was nintendo that let them take their time

will M$ have the same patience? .. they didn't show it with PDZ .. it was obviously rushed

i hope Banjo 3 isn't

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]so i guess that everyone will forgive them when the push it back to 09?blitzkid1

i will :)

Rare lost the magic they had all those years ago.Cyber-

Most of Rare's recent games have been good, Viva Pinata felt very 'N64 Rare' to me, but if they screw up Banjo 3 I may have to agree with you. Since the original Banjo Kazooie team is making it, I have faith that Rare can pull it off.

September 2008.

Mark thy words.

Seriously though, best game for the 360 this year imo (obviously excluding GTAIV).

the-very-best

I never even heard of Banjo before I came to this site lol

So yeah it's not in my list for games to get or games I wanna get.

They were faster and better on N64 :(

Curse you complicated technology!

id rather have killer instinct 3.prodiqy32

Amen, and a port of KI to the DS for my Spinal Combos on the run :P

Also, Rare > everyone in this thread so bleh.

they made some great games back in the day, i really enjoyed the first banjo kazooie and and donkey kong 64.

I don't understand while some people consider RARE to be on the level of legendary devs such as blizzard and valve.

i mean, they already made a current gen game, and it was OK.

Rare lost the magic they had all those years ago.Cyber-

Please, did Nintendo lost the magic last gen when Super Mario Sunshine, Pikmin, Zelda TP, Super smash bros melee scored AA?

Or when Luigis mansion, Mario kart, scored A?

id rather have killer instinct 3.prodiqy32

Look at the middle stocking! :D

[QUOTE="Cyber-"]Rare lost the magic they had all those years ago.KrazyKenKutarag

Most of Rare's recent games have been good, Viva Pinata felt very 'N64 Rare' to me, but if they screw up Banjo 3 I may have to agree with you. Since the original Banjo Kazooie team is making it, I have faith that Rare can pull it off.

Viva Pinata will not go down as one of Rare's finest. No only Banjo and Kazooie is the only way to redeem themselves and I doubt they will do that.