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#1 SecretPolice
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I know I'll be trying it out since I plan on buying the 360 S Kinect bundle though I think I just may have the most fun watching others play the games. I'll decide just how good this thing is when I try it for myself. :P

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Rare's Kinect development director Nick Burton has encouraged core gamers to try Microsoft's new controller technology rather than dismissing it out of hand.

"All I can say to the core is go and have a go. It doesn't even have to be necessarily Kinect Sports. Go and have a go on Kinect, period," Burton told Eurogamer in an interview published today.

Like Chris Lewis last week, Burton said Rare had expected a bit of negative feedback on Kinect when the wraps first came off, but said playing with it first hand would change people's minds.

"Until people play Kinect, and they play it for more than a couple of seconds, which is unfortunately practically what you get in the trade shows... But you know hardly anybody's getting a chance to play it," he said.

"It's one of those things you've got to have what I call your Kinect moment, when you realise... And we see this, we saw it at gamescom and E3, people go, 'Oh, it's way better than I expected. It's way more high fidelity than I expected.'

"But when you're looking at a video on the internet and you're reading the write-ups, it's very difficult to get, well I think it's probably impossible to get that feeling."

Burton also said he believes that hardcore gamers will be all over it once the 10th November launch rolls around, whatever they may be saying to the contrary on forums - and he expects Kinect Sports to be a hotbed for them.

"You watch the Live leaderboards when these things come out," he said. "There will be people... We'll be there going, 'How the hell have they gone that fast?' or 'How have they got that big score?' That will be the hardcore doing that."

Read the full Nick Burton Kinect interviewelsewhere on Eurogamer

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#2 J-WOW
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No thank you
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On the other hand, Rare's very own fansite abandoned them because they were'nt really the same Rare anymore.

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#4 D-RS
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Do a Banjo(not related to kinect) game and i would buy kinect !
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#5 SecretPolice
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Do a Banjo(not related to kinect) game and i would buy kinect !D-RS
That would make me :D as long as the option would be there to use the standard controller if I choose.

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#6 Master_ShakeXXX
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Rare? PFFT. Does anyone even pay attention to them anymore? They're like the Anna Nicole Smith of gaming.

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#7 SecretPolice
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On the other hand, Rare's very own fansite abandoned them because they were'nt really the same Rare anymore.

Filthybastrd

Hmm, one could argue Nintendo isn't Nintendo anymore to the core gamers and they use to seem to try to have the most capable HW and this gen.... Not so much.

Don't want to see MS go 100 % that route but me thinks Nintendo is pretty pleased even though many core gamers aren't. :P

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Rare? PFFT. Does anyone even pay attention to them anymore? They're like the Anna Nicole Smith of gaming.

Master_ShakeXXX

With 1 AAA & 4 AA games this gen., they are in a fairly Exclusive group of devs that can claim the same or better.

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#9 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Rare? PFFT. Does anyone even pay attention to them anymore? They're like the Anna Nicole Smith of gaming.

SecretPolice

With 1 AAA & 4 AA games this gen., they are in a fairly Exclusive group of devs that can claim the same or better.

Heh, tell that to all of their former fans who now appear to hate them.

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#10 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Rare? PFFT. Does anyone even pay attention to them anymore? They're like the Anna Nicole Smith of gaming.

Master_ShakeXXX

With 1 AAA & 4 AA games this gen., they are in a fairly Exclusive group of devs that can claim the same or better.

Heh, tell that to all of their former fans who now appear to hate them.

Those weren't really fans but mearly sheep dressed in Rare clothing.

j/k but only a lil bit. :P

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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

On the other hand, Rare's very own fansite abandoned them because they were'nt really the same Rare anymore.

SecretPolice

Hmm, one could argue Nintendo isn't Nintendo anymore to the core gamers and they use to seem to try to have the most capable HW and this gen.... Not so much.

Don't want to see MS go 100 % that route but me thinks Nintendo is pretty pleased even though many core gamers aren't. :P

I would probably consider myself a 'core' gamer and I love my Wii. Muramasa: the demon blade, sin and punishment: star successor, no more heroes, and so on. I'll be snaggin metroid the other m soon too! I just use my gamecube controller whenever I can.

come september, I'll be getting my halo reach bundle. However, I don't think I'll ever purchase the kinect. Just as I won't be purchasing the move. both will be trash imo.

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#12 Chutebox
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What does Rare now about "the core" gamers anymore?

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#13 ironcreed
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No thanks. I'll be spending my money on games instead. I hope you enjoy it, though.

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#14 SecretPolice
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What does Rare now about "the core" gamers anymore?

Chutebox

You'll be eating those words should MS announce PDZ2 and Banjo 3 at GDC next month since they are giving the key note. :P

Also, Banjo N&B, Kameo, PDZ and even the VP's are not all that casual ya know. :o

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

What does Rare now about "the core" gamers anymore?

SecretPolice

You'll be eating those words should MS announce PDZ2 and Banjo 3 at GDC next month since they are giving the key note. :P

Also, Banjo N&B, Kameo, PDZ and even the VP's are not all that casual ya know. :o

I'm sure you mean TGS. They've already said it's pretty much dedicated to Kinect.
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#16 felipebo
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Rare knows as much about core gamers as a man who played a Gameboy 10 years ago and didn't like it.

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#17 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

What does Rare now about "the core" gamers anymore?

Chutebox

You'll be eating those words should MS announce PDZ2 and Banjo 3 at GDC next month since they are giving the key note. :P

Also, Banjo N&B, Kameo, PDZ and even the VP's are not all that casual ya know. :o

I'm sure you mean TGS. They've already said it's pretty much dedicated to Kinect.

:oops: Yes I did.

Sometimes the cards are kept closer to the vest then you think though sure, you may be correct but I just think Rare has got to have a couple of umm, core games they been working on.. I dunno, perhaps wishful thinking.

We shall see.

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#18 Espada12
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Yea? And core gamers have been urging rare for KI3 or PD2 but have we got either? No... so why listen to you?

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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

On the other hand, Rare's very own fansite abandoned them because they were'nt really the same Rare anymore.

SecretPolice

Hmm, one could argue Nintendo isn't Nintendo anymore to the core gamers and they use to seem to try to have the most capable HW and this gen.... Not so much.

Don't want to see MS go 100 % that route but me thinks Nintendo is pretty pleased even though many core gamers aren't. :P

Nintendo have barely changed since 1985

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]You'll be eating those words should MS announce PDZ2 and Banjo 3 at GDC next month since they are giving the key note. :P

Also, Banjo N&B, Kameo, PDZ and even the VP's are not all that casual ya know. :o

SecretPolice

I'm sure you mean TGS. They've already said it's pretty much dedicated to Kinect.

:oops: Yes I did.

Sometimes the cards are kept closer to the vest then you think though sure, you may be correct but I just think Rare has got to have a couple of umm, core games they been working on.. I dunno, perhaps wishful thinking.

We shall see.

I hope so. People have been saying that for a while. Sad to see hopefuls disappointed.

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#21 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

On the other hand, Rare's very own fansite abandoned them because they were'nt really the same Rare anymore.

toast_burner

Hmm, one could argue Nintendo isn't Nintendo anymore to the core gamers and they use to seem to try to have the most capable HW and this gen.... Not so much.

Don't want to see MS go 100 % that route but me thinks Nintendo is pretty pleased even though many core gamers aren't. :P

Nintendo have barely changed since 1985

Seriously, me thinks this is the first time many gamers say the Nintendo console best serves as a secondary console and not their primary. At least that's the way I see it and I've seen plenty around here say the same.

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Who pays their wages again?
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#23 SecretPolice
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Who pays their wages again?SaltyMeatballs
I'm guessing that ultimately, it's those who purchase their products ? :P

Yes of course MS/Rare will try and put their product in the best possible light but so what ?

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#24 Dahaka-UK
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Forget it Rare. You lost your creativity and your soul along with it.

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#25 HarlockJC
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I personally can't wait to pick one up. I plan on preordering it here soon and keeping it for my son Christmas. I think it's going to be one of the hot ticket items this year.
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#26 mitu123
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Make games we want for it and we'll talk.

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#27 SecretPolice
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Make games we want for it and we'll talk.

mitu123

Unlike what some others have said:P. I'd say that's a truly reasonable response though all they are really saying is try Kennect for more then a minute or two before judging it. 8)

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#28 nhh18
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Please buy our product. We will like you for it

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#29 shinrabanshou
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I like this part....

"There will be people... We'll be there going, 'How the hell have they gone that fast?' or 'How have they got that big score?' That will be the hardcore doing that."

Talk about a userbase diskinect. :P

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"We'll be there going, 'How the hell have they gone that fast?' or 'How have they got that big score?' That will be the hardcore doing that."" :lol: Classic Rare, playing a minigame and having a good time/score does not make it hardcore....
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"We'll be there going, 'How the hell have they gone that fast?' or 'How have they got that big score?' That will be the hardcore doing that."" :lol: Classic Rare, playing a minigame and having a good time/score does not make it hardcore....Ringx55
well kinect is the hot ticket item in some world i don't live in.

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#33 SecretPolice
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Forget it Rare. You lost your creativity and your soul along with it.

Dahaka-UK

How could that be when Banjo N&B and the VP's are some of the Most creative new IP's this gen. ? :P

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If they have non Kinect games to announce, why are they urging people to spend $150 on Kinect?
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#35 kobraka1
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man i miss the old Rare. kameo was great but other then that they have been pretty awful. i doubt anything could get me to play kinect. i can't believe microsoft when from the hardcore system of choice to a joke over night. i will not be surprised if the kinect kills the 360 brand off entirely. if it does microsoft has only themselves to blame.

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If they have non Kinect games to announce, why are they urging people to spend $150 on Kinect? DarkStraberry
Likely b/c their boss MS is urging them to urge us. :P

I don't know that they do have a couple non Kinect games to announce I'm sure hoping a bunch but even so, they have an interest in Kinect and their Kinect games being successful so Kenect & non Kinect games are not mutually exclusive for them where marketing is concerned.

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#37 alexfla
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The only thing Rare said was TRY IT before judging. Very sensible. I'm not surprised those comments are being met with hostility on these Sony boards.

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#39 D-RS
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

What does Rare now about "the core" gamers anymore?

SecretPolice

You'll be eating those words should MS announce PDZ2 and Banjo 3 at GDC next month since they are giving the key note. :P

Also, Banjo N&B, Kameo, PDZ and even the VP's are not all that casual ya know. :o

That will be a dream come true:P
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What does he mean have a go?, it's not like it has core games and we're just dismissing them. There's not a single game made with the core in mind. It's just not designed for us. **** MS and Rare. They're talking donkey dick.

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#41 CarnageHeart
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If Rare and MS wanted core gamers to pick up Kinect at launch, having a Child of Eden quality game at launch probably would have been a good idea. *Shrugs* I'm sure it will do well among casuals.
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Sounds pretty desperate.

Ugh.

I hope Kinect fails hard, for all gamers sake.

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#43 Pug-Nasty
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Hmm, a company owned by MS urging people to buy the new peripheral MS is selling? Get outta here.

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#44 XanderZane
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No thank youJ-WOW
When they wrote this article, I don't think it was meant for Nintendo fanboys' eyes. lol!! He's right though. There will definitely be people playing this because its different. I pre-ordered mine a couple days after the Microsoft conference ended. lol!!
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#45 ProjectNatalFan
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people are afraid that they will actually like it thats the problem. I am getting it for the Kinect Hub and using it as a entertainment device overall, gaming is an added plus. I know I i will like it because Im a tech type of guy and I love new things in the market.

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#46 R4gn4r0k  Online
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Gamers shouldn't listen to Rare

Rare should listen to gamers

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#47 XboximusPrime
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Sorry, but I pefer to buy my things when their is tangible things I want, not Promises of stuff in the future. kinects entire strategy for Core gamers is to promise them support in the future.

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#48 Merex760
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I'll pass.
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#49 Sp4rtan_3
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Nah Kinects looks like garbage. And why should I take advice from rare ? They're terrible.
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#50 Santesyu
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Sounds pretty desperate.

Ugh.

I hope Kinect fails hard, for all gamers sake.

lucky_star
you do know if that happens Microsoft wont be to kind to that.. They will make up there loss profits somehow.