Ratchet and Clank clocking in at 22 gigs

every dev making an exclusive game says the same thing.Dreams-Visions

because they do mather to make a great game

I't a PS3 exclusive while it looks nice it is not gonna be a system seller.chocolate1325

For many it is a system seller.

So does that mean this game will be *gasp* 7 hours.. dum.. dum.. dum... OhSnapitz

haha! from the sound of these Lems, they do sound pretty desperate..

yeah sure, you "wouldn't care" right??.....so what're you doin' in here then and start bringing out Lair as a damage control sabotaging a great game..

you lems have nothing else to do here in SW but to bash these great upcoming PS3 games that'll truly deliver, yeah i could understand some games being hyped and all and turn out flop, but this is INSOMIAC who brought out a 9.5 ovarall score RFOM so you lems have no excuse but to hate on these cows.

dont get your hopes up, stay cumfy with your Halo, and keep away from the PS3 and its blu-ray.

RFOM = 8.6, Halo will easily get better, and what does that have to do with this thread anyway?OGTiago

1.0 or 10.0, it was still a great game.

wear your Lem detector goggles and see how many people are disturbed about this news..

all TC did was post something informal and "blu-ray is needed" and all these haters comes in here, brings out Lair as dc, and feel a little desperate and starts hating.

i mean wtf?? what did Blu-ray and the PS3 ever do to them??! i could understand the PS3 hasn't had any good games lately but it's just unavoidable....; these devs WILL use blu-ray and ARE going to take advantage of the Cell.

you can't avoid that....., it's just annoying that people just cant face facts and tends to be more ignorant.

8.5 or 9.5, R&C will be a great game

[QUOTE="OGTiago"]RFOM = 8.6, Halo will easily get better, and what does that have to do with this thread anyway?AKuMA_G0

1.0 or 10.0, it was still a great game.

wear your Lem detector goggles and see how many people are disturbed about this news..

all TC did was post something informal and "blu-ray is needed" and all these haters comes in here, brings out Lair as dc, and feel a little desperate and starts hating.

i mean wtf?? what did Blu-ray and the PS3 ever do to them??! i could understand the PS3 hasn't had any good games lately but it's just unavoidable....; these devs WILL use blu-ray and ARE going to take advantage of the Cell.

you can't avoid that....., it's just annoying that people just cant face facts and tends to be more ignorant.

I love my 360 and Wii, and I am getting a PS3 today actually, but seriously, each and every time a developer of a PS3 exclusive has said that "it can only be done on PS3" the final product has not bore that out.

You could say things like Lair couldn't be done on 360 only because of the motion controls, but not due to space or ability of the platforms. and that would be a simple remedy.

When a game comes out that clearly could not be done on one or the other platform in someway, you'd have a point, but so far all this posturing from both MS and Sony about how things can only work on their systems is just PR fluff, and should always be taken with a grain (or shaker) of salt, but everyone who agrees with the opinions spoken automatically assumes that developers are gods and are infallible.

How many developers need to release contradictory statements about what system is superior before people realize that they are just people with opinions, much like us here, only they may well be getting paid to have their biases. :D

Wow, where have I heard this before?

Honestly, I'm insulted that they believe I'll fall for the same trick three times in a row.

How much is uncompressed and how much is filler?foxhound_fox

Who cares? 22 gigs translates in to what for play time?MrGrimFandango

Wow, where have I heard this before?

Honestly, I'm insulted that they believe I'll fall for the same trick three times in a row.

Verge_6

Well, exact same developer, and actually, exact same size. Resistance was also hyped as 22gb.

BTW, was it Ted Price who made the comments? I kinda tend to ignore his oft-nonsensical ramblings and self-justifications.

I can not believe people still think this means something.. every PS3 exclusive seemly gets the same thing "ONLY POSSIBLE ON THE PS3!!11!".. cause the PC could totally not run any of these games..

Didn't Insomanic say the same thing about Resistance last year?

user_nat

I would love to see the kind of pc it would take to run a high quality looking game that was fully optimzied for the PS3. Im sorry but most pc's would be getting there ass kicked.

[QUOTE="user_nat"]

I can not believe people still think this means something.. every PS3 exclusive seemly gets the same thing "ONLY POSSIBLE ON THE PS3!!11!".. cause the PC could totally not run any of these games..

Didn't Insomanic say the same thing about Resistance last year?

Polaris_choice

I would love to see the kind of pc it would take to run a high quality looking game that was fully optimzied for the PS3. Im sorry but most pc's would be getting there ass kicked.

Wow! dude you're gonna need some lube after that statement... :?

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="user_nat"]

I can not believe people still think this means something.. every PS3 exclusive seemly gets the same thing "ONLY POSSIBLE ON THE PS3!!11!".. cause the PC could totally not run any of these games..

Didn't Insomanic say the same thing about Resistance last year?

OhSnapitz

I would love to see the kind of pc it would take to run a high quality looking game that was fully optimzied for the PS3. Im sorry but most pc's would be getting there ass kicked.

Wow! dude you're gonna need some lube after that statement... :?

Um no not really I dont need a bitter hermit that knows absoulutely nothign about porting games to go on a ramble about something he knows nothing about. Regardless the architecture in the PS3 is far differnt then the pc( hence the reason PS3 exclusives look far better then the multiplats). Hell I rembeber running MGS2 on a TI4600 amnd watching it lag its ass off and it was a game built for the PS2 yet a card far more powrful then the PS2 simply couldnt run it.

I would love to see the kind of pc it would take to run a high quality looking game that was fully optimzied for the PS3. Im sorry but most pc's would be getting there ass kicked.

Polaris_choice

I would love to see how a PS3 would run a game optimized for PC or X360. "Powerpoint presentation" would be the accurate term. Heck, I'd wager the Ps3 wouldn't enjoy running a wii-optimized game.

The fact of the matter, you basically said nothing with respect to the relative performance of PS3s and PCs.

By the By, in bare power, PCs win. Don't even go there :P

1. how man language tracks are on the disc that don't need to be there?
2. how much of the game is uncompressed?
3. isn't it funny how insomniac is a sony owned studio?

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

I would love to see the kind of pc it would take to run a high quality looking game that was fully optimzied for the PS3. Im sorry but most pc's would be getting there ass kicked.

Grive

I would love to see how a PS3 would run a game optimized for PC or X360. "Powerpoint presentation" would be the accurate term. Heck, I'd wager the Ps3 wouldn't enjoy running a wii-optimized game.

The fact of the matter, you basically said nothing with respect to the relative performance of PS3s and PCs.

By the By, in bare power, PCs win. Don't even go there :P

As far as CPU power goes no the PC does not win not even close . No pc processor out now holds a candel to cell when it comes to visual rendering. The only weakpoint the PS3 has as all is its ram. Regardless you can build a game ground up for the 360 and one for the PS3 and the PS3 game is simply going to look more impressive at least from what Ive seen. And the Wii? The PS3 and 360 could emulate Wii games with software dont be a fool.

[QUOTE="user_nat"]

I can not believe people still think this means something.. every PS3 exclusive seemly gets the same thing "ONLY POSSIBLE ON THE PS3!!11!".. cause the PC could totally not run any of these games..

Didn't Insomanic say the same thing about Resistance last year?

Polaris_choice

I would love to see the kind of pc it would take to run a high quality looking game that was fully optimzied for the PS3. Im sorry but most pc's would be getting there ass kicked.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="user_nat"]

I can not believe people still think this means something.. every PS3 exclusive seemly gets the same thing "ONLY POSSIBLE ON THE PS3!!11!".. cause the PC could totally not run any of these games..

Didn't Insomanic say the same thing about Resistance last year?

-wii60-

I would love to see the kind of pc it would take to run a high quality looking game that was fully optimzied for the PS3. Im sorry but most pc's would be getting there ass kicked.

Not anything funny about that at all go play Wii fit.

[QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="user_nat"]

I can not believe people still think this means something.. every PS3 exclusive seemly gets the same thing "ONLY POSSIBLE ON THE PS3!!11!".. cause the PC could totally not run any of these games..

Didn't Insomanic say the same thing about Resistance last year?

Polaris_choice

I would love to see the kind of pc it would take to run a high quality looking game that was fully optimzied for the PS3. Im sorry but most pc's would be getting there ass kicked.

Not anything funny about that at all go play Wii fit.

1up said it's the closest thing to Pixar graphics in a game. 1up

I never played a Ratchet game, but I'll pick it up to see if the graphic live up to the hype.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="user_nat"]

I can not believe people still think this means something.. every PS3 exclusive seemly gets the same thing "ONLY POSSIBLE ON THE PS3!!11!".. cause the PC could totally not run any of these games..

Didn't Insomanic say the same thing about Resistance last year?

-wii60-

I would love to see the kind of pc it would take to run a high quality looking game that was fully optimzied for the PS3. Im sorry but most pc's would be getting there ass kicked.

Not anything funny about that at all go play Wii fit.

Um why dont you write something that comebacks my statements intellegently instead of posting a stupid face that has no relevence to the topic.

Funny how there are better looking PC games coming out that don't need that much space50shot

Compare a pc game that uses that visual style to Ratchet and clank? What Sam and Max? Because no pc game in that genre holds a candle to Ratchet and Clank visually . And do you honestly think the devs are talking aboutthe pcwhen they mention it can only be developed on PS3? No there talking about other consoles. Of course they could make the game on pc and make it take up 22gigs of your harddrive.

[QUOTE="50shot"]Funny how there are better looking PC games coming out that don't need that much spacePolaris_choice

Compare a pc game that uses that visual style to Ratchet and clank? What Sam and Max? Because no pc game in that genre holds a candle to Ratchet and Clank visually . And do you honestly think the devs are talking aboutthe pcwhen they mention it can only be developed on PS3? No there talking about other consoles. Of course they could make the game on pc and make it take up 22gigs of your harddrive.

[QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

I would love to see the kind of pc it would take to run a high quality looking game that was fully optimzied for the PS3. Im sorry but most pc's would be getting there ass kicked.

Polaris_choice

I would love to see how a PS3 would run a game optimized for PC or X360. "Powerpoint presentation" would be the accurate term. Heck, I'd wager the Ps3 wouldn't enjoy running a wii-optimized game.

The fact of the matter, you basically said nothing with respect to the relative performance of PS3s and PCs.

By the By, in bare power, PCs win. Don't even go there :P

As far as CPU power goes no the PC does not win not even close . No pc processor out now holds a candel to cell when it comes to visual rendering. The only weakpoint the PS3 has as all is its ram. Regardless you can build a game ground up for the 360 and one for the PS3 and the PS3 game is simply going to look more impressive at least from what Ive seen. And the Wii? The PS3 and 360 could emulate Wii games with software dont be a fool.

How about my CPU...

yeah so anyways get owned in another thread and stop wasting our time in this one.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

[QUOTE="50shot"]Funny how there are better looking PC games coming out that don't need that much spacemyke2010

Compare a pc game that uses that visual style to Ratchet and clank? What Sam and Max? Because no pc game in that genre holds a candle to Ratchet and Clank visually . And do you honestly think the devs are talking aboutthe pcwhen they mention it can only be developed on PS3? No there talking about other consoles. Of course they could make the game on pc and make it take up 22gigs of your harddrive.

The reason you use the same genera is that it incurs roughly the same demands on the back end. You wouldn't use a interactive movie game and compare it to a FPS as they have totally different data needs.

Now, let's take Crysis. The game takes place mostly in 1 environment, a jungle setting, and later that jungle setting frozen. It looks great but data wise it means you can concentrate all your data on those. R&C typically takes place on a multitude of very diverse planets, requiring nearly entirely new textures, models, etc each time.

Now, I'm not saying I agree the size is due to using up that space legit. We'll see about that when it is released. No, but the comparison is a faulty one. Just like saying gameworld size = data size (yeah, that's why my old C64 had a game world encompassing 5 galaxies, right), it just doesn't work well when you start analyzing it. Truthfully, even within a genera means little, although it is better.

[QUOTE="Miyabeast"]they should bring Ratchet and Clank to the 360 too . Redfingers

A) published by Sony

B) created by exclusive PS3 development studio

C) developer said it was only possible on Blu Ray format bu bu bu teh phublicher siad it only posible on Bleu ray =(

D) developer said it was only possible via Cell Teg cell is soooo powaful right? ooooh yeah oooh yeah bu bu bu teh cell