Rather than getting a 3DS or PSP NGP I think I'll just wait for the next iPhone.

Or maybe the one after that, but basically why bother getting either of these devices when it's pretty obvious that probably in the iPhone 6 at the very latest there will be a 3D screen, it is inevitable, and the iPhone already does everything else the other machines are touting perfectly well already, and more besides and more to come too (like using it as an NFC based credit card for example).

The only thing the iPhone doesn't do as well as these machines, and won't in the near future because it really can't by virtue of it's very nature and design, is obviously the fully dedicated gaming controls, but once they add haptic feedback into the device, which will surely come soon too, it's not going to be as big an issue any more and games like Dead Space on iPhone 4 already show us just how close it can get to a full-on console/portable experience even with it's touch screen only interface.

Nope, as cool as I guess the 3DS and PSP NGP are I just don't see them offering anything the iPhone doesn't already or won't in the near future and certainly within the lifetime of both the 3DS and PSP NGP anyway.

lol smartphone gaming.

It still can't compete where it counts, games.

Why on Earth would Apple bother with an autostereoscopic screen? Who wants that on their smartphone?

The PSP2 outspecs the iPhone 5.

if you want small games with ok at best controls then sure

but if you went fully fleshed out adventures and stories of about 8 hours + then hell no

lol smartphone gaming.

It still can't compete where it counts, games.

789shadow

Why on Earth would Apple bother with an autostereoscopic screen? Who wants that on their smartphone?

The PSP2 outspecs the iPhone 5.

shinrabanshou

the problem for me with both the 3DS and PSP2 is they are just to big to be truly portable and take with you everywhere. my iphone my not have the range of quality games that the DS has. but i have enough great games to suit my portable gaming needs and its ALWAYS in my pocket.

are you in hopes they will add buttons or dont you care for that stuff?

Thats my main complain actually, seeing as the Iphone allready has enough games, its just a pain to play them with limited control options.

if you want small games with ok at best controls then sure

but if you went fully fleshed out adventures and stories of about 8 hours + then hell no

CDUB316

The screen is already pretty much identical to the 3DS and PSP NGP (somewhere between the two I believe and certainly far higher resolution than the 3DS for example).

The controls will also improve soon enough when Apple adds haptic feedback to the screen, which is inevitable.

Because then I'll be waiting for PSP10 or iPhone20. Life is short and there's a lot to play, I can't wait 2 more years :Pkuraimen

are you in hopes they will add buttons or dont you care for that stuff?

Thats my main complain actually, seeing as the Iphone allready has enough games, its just a pain to play them with limited control options.

Half-Way

Just addinghaptic feedback will be enough to compensate mostly for the lack of physical buttons and control sticks etc imo.

A 3Dfolding OLED screen with haptic feedback would give them a machine that pretty much does every single thing the other machines do now and mostly just as well too, since the bottom half of the screen could basically act as one big touch control panel with haptic feedback to help differentiate the virtual buttons etc.

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

are you in hopes they will add buttons or dont you care for that stuff?

Thats my main complain actually, seeing as the Iphone allready has enough games, its just a pain to play them with limited control options.

amaneuvering

Just addinghaptic feedback will be enough imo.

doesn't change the fact that my thumbs will cover up half the damn screen

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

are you in hopes they will add buttons or dont you care for that stuff?

Thats my main complain actually, seeing as the Iphone allready has enough games, its just a pain to play them with limited control options.

CDUB316

Just addinghaptic feedback will be enough imo.

doesn't change the fact that my thumbs will cover up half the damn screen

A 3Dfolding OLED screenwith haptic feedback would give them a machine that pretty much does every single thing the other machines do now and mostly just as well too, since the bottom half of the screen could basically act as one big touch control panel with haptic feedback to help differentiate the virtual buttons etc.

It's all coming very soon and likely even in an iPhone model that will come out well within the lifetime of both the 3DS and PSP NGP.

well will iphone 5 have uncharted on it ?sdu_1111

Apple is a contender, I cant wait to see their next iphone iteration

tbh i think the iPhone is overpriced and and for a phone it sucks donkey balls imo..Much rather have my trusty nokia and tbh i think apple overprice everything and people are stupid enough to buy it makes me laugh..much better mp3's and smartphones on the market tbh.

razgriz_101

Apple is a contender, I cant wait to see their next iphone iteration

ethanradd

Me too.

The fact I might be able to use/replace it as a credit card to make direct payments for goods in places like Tesco etc is enough to get me excited, because it means one less thing to carry around with me, let alone all the other stuff it might bring, possibly even gaming related.

[QUOTE="sdu_1111"]well will iphone 5 have uncharted on it ?amaneuvering

[QUOTE="ethanradd"]

Apple is a contender, I cant wait to see their next iphone iteration

amaneuvering

Me too.

The fact I might be able to use/replace it as a credit card to make direct payments for goods in places like Tesco etc is enough to get me excited, because it means one less thing to carry around with me, let alone all the other stuff it might bring, possibly even gaming related.

like carrying a wallet around is that big of a hassle? you still gotta carry your wallet to keep your drivers license anyways

and my credit card info on my iPhone?.....that's sounds really unsafe...noooooo thank you

i got myself an iphone 4 and i havent touched my DS since (only bought it for pokemon anyway lol)

i can play quick games like canabalt, angry birds, plants vs zombies, space invaders, whatever

or i can play games that have a little more depth to them like GTA CTW, Secret of Mana, Final Fantasy I+II, Infinity Blade, and a host of other RPGs

Or I could play Real Racing 2 (tilt controls omg), BFBC2, Resident Evil 4, Lego Harry Potter, The Secret of Monkey Island Special Edition (I+II), Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, robot Unicorn Attack... the list goes on

and i don't have to carry around any cartridges. honestly there is a limit to how many devices i want in my pockets, and that quota is filled by the iphone. gaming? tick. phone? tick. web browsing? tick. email? tick. media player? tick.

the iphone beats other portable gaming devices so hard its not funny

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

tbh i think the iPhone is overpriced and and for a phone it sucks donkey balls imo..Much rather have my trusty nokia and tbh i think apple overprice everything and people are stupid enough to buy it makes me laugh..much better mp3's and smartphones on the market tbh.

dog_dirt

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="ethanradd"]

Apple is a contender, I cant wait to see their next iphone iteration

CDUB316

Me too.

The fact I might be able to use/replace it as a credit card to make direct payments for goods in places like Tesco etc is enough to get me excited, because it means one less thing to carry around with me, let alone all the other stuff it might bring, possibly even gaming related.

like carrying a wallet around is that big of a hassle? you still gotta carry your wallet to keep your drivers license anyways

and my credit card info on my iPhone?.....that's sounds really unsafe...noooooo thank you

Seriously, it really is.

I want one single device in my pocket and nothing else (I hate carrying lots of crap around).

The iPhone is coming closest to being that single device.

Also, it's as safe as any credit card because it works almost identically...and you've got to assume that stuff will be incorporated into this one device at some point too.

I'll just go get a link for you...

oh yeah adding on to my previous post the games on iphone are way cheaper than DS/PSP. plus you can get the SDK and make your own for way cheaper too (you just have to own a mac lol)

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Me too.

The fact I might be able to use/replace it as a credit card to make direct payments for goods in places like Tesco etc is enough to get me excited, because it means one less thing to carry around with me, let alone all the other stuff it might bring, possibly even gaming related.

amaneuvering

like carrying a wallet around is that big of a hassle? you still gotta carry your wallet to keep your drivers license anyways

and my credit card info on my iPhone?.....that's sounds really unsafe...noooooo thank you

riiiiight...well when that device dies and you have no means to charge it til you get home cause you forgot your car charger and you need to get home to charge it, but first you need gas cause there is no way you'll make it, but UHOH i can't buy gas cause my credit card is dead

....yyyyyeeeeaaaa, have fun with that

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

are you in hopes they will add buttons or dont you care for that stuff?

Thats my main complain actually, seeing as the Iphone allready has enough games, its just a pain to play them with limited control options.

CDUB316

Just addinghaptic feedback will be enough imo.

doesn't change the fact that my thumbs will cover up half the damn screen

thats actually my main issue with the buttonless gameplay

even if the haptic feedback is awesome, and solves some of the issues. If they add a bigger screen and a smaller screen within when playing games so you dont need to cover the main screen with your thumbs when playing, it would be awesome.

OR if its possible to use the haptic feedback to somehow create invisible buttons outside the screen. And simply use like Small drawn symbols as indications to where the buttons are.

oh yeah adding on to my previous post the games on iphone are way cheaper than DS/PSP. plus you can get the SDK and make your own for way cheaper too (you just have to own a mac lol)

Firebird-5

[QUOTE="dog_dirt"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

tbh i think the iPhone is overpriced and and for a phone it sucks donkey balls imo..Much rather have my trusty nokia and tbh i think apple overprice everything and people are stupid enough to buy it makes me laugh..much better mp3's and smartphones on the market tbh.

amaneuvering

if you gig a lot like myself..Iphone 4 is the last thing you want in your pocket i know to helli wouldnt want to take itto see A Day to remember tomorrow night:) especially if your at gigs at least 3 times a week.

I dont like the whole phone's adopting touch screen i find them finiky,annoying and just flat out crap on for a few functions.

And last but not least my experiences and life most likely differ drastically from yours.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="dog_dirt"]i bought one... do you think im stupidrazgriz_101

if you gig a lot like myself..Iphone 4 is the last thing you want in your pocket i know to helli wouldnt want to take itto see A Day to remember tomorrow night:) especially if your at gigs at least 3 times a week.

I dont like the whole phone's adopting touch screen i find them finiky,annoying and just flat out crap on for a few functions.

And last but not least my experiences and life most likely differ drastically from yours.

how so? touch screens make some functions dramatically simpler. its the difference between just having a keyboard and having a mouse as well

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Me too.

The fact I might be able to use/replace it as a credit card to make direct payments for goods in places like Tesco etc is enough to get me excited, because it means one less thing to carry around with me, let alone all the other stuff it might bring, possibly even gaming related.

amaneuvering

like carrying a wallet around is that big of a hassle? you still gotta carry your wallet to keep your drivers license anyways

and my credit card info on my iPhone?.....that's sounds really unsafe...noooooo thank you

Seriously, it really is.

I want one single device in my pocket and nothing else (I hate carrying lots of crap around).

The iPhone is coming closest to being that single device.

Also, it's as safe as any credit card because it works almost identically...and you've got to assume that stuff will be incorporated into this one device at some point too.

I'll just go get a link for you...

For example

You just know they're going to build all this into your phone at some point too...