Razorfist tears apart IGN and gaming journalism

[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

I don't agree with 70% of his sh*t opinions. The guy thinks that Metal Gear Solid or anything even remotely cinematic for that matter, and Japanese developed games in general, are the gaming equivalent to the anti-christ. Yet I still respect the man for so fearlessly and proudly exercizing his right of free speech and doing so in such an entertaining manner. He just doesn't give a sh*t. His mind is impervious to the brainwashing methods used by the bought and paid for modern day media.  Mother f*cker should be the most beloved critic on the internet.

Master_ShakeXXX

This doesn't make one lick of sense. One cannot simply brainwash one's self. There has to be a third party involved. Some kind of outside persuasion.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

You just don't like him because he doesn't say what you wanna hear. You want to hear *so and so game* is

"a modern day masterpiece!" 

"revolutionary"

"TRIPLE A"

"9.5!"

etc etc. He doesn't offer that. What he does offer is his opinions hand crafted by his own mind. Opinions shaped by his life experiences, interests, and likes, and totally unpolluted by advertisements and public perception.

Master_ShakeXXX

If that's what his haters wanted to hear then we would all love IGN, but we don't. I can still agree with the dudes opinion, most of what he said in that vid was right on the money. but it's nothing any of us didn't know already. People hate him because he's an arrogant douche who loves the sound of himself ranting

Not as many people hate IGN as you seem to believe. If that was true, how do they maintain their status as one of the world's most popular gaming publications? 

Because like I stated they love the playstation. Why wouldn't PS users love to visit there and see games like Uncharted and GOW get super high scores consistently. Also they have a very active forum

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] Because brainwashing yourself into blind devotion of your own ego is SO much better :lol:DragonfireXZ95

This doesn't make one lick of sense. One cannot simply brainwash one's self. There has to be a third party involved. Some kind of outside persuasion.

losing your mind =/= brainwashing

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

I don't agree with 70% of his sh*t opinions. The guy thinks that Metal Gear Solid or anything even remotely cinematic for that matter, and Japanese developed games in general, are the gaming equivalent to the anti-christ. Yet I still respect the man for so fearlessly and proudly exercizing his right of free speech and doing so in such an entertaining manner. He just doesn't give a sh*t. His mind is impervious to the brainwashing methods used by the bought and paid for modern day media.  Mother f*cker should be the most beloved critic on the internet.

Master_ShakeXXX

You just don't like him because he doesn't say what you wanna hear. You want to hear *so and so game* is

"a modern day masterpiece!" 

"revolutionary"

"TRIPLE A"

"9.5!"

etc etc. He doesn't offer that. What he does offer is his opinions hand crafted by his own mind. Opinions shaped by his life experiences, interests, and likes, and totally unpolluted by advertisements and public perception.

Also, strawman argument. Cute.

So what's the impact of that video on gaming journalism? Does it offer any solution? Absolute zero.rjdofu

Precisely, he doesn't provide anything as a resolution or how he could change it or anything. he does what anyone else has been doing for a while and just point out all the problems

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

If that's what his haters wanted to hear then we would all love IGN, but we don't. I can still agree with the dudes opinion, most of what he said in that vid was right on the money. but it's nothing any of us didn't know already. People hate him because he's an arrogant douche who loves the sound of himself ranting

seanmcloughlin

Not as many people hate IGN as you seem to believe. If that was true, how do they maintain their status as one of the world's most popular gaming publications? 

Because like I stated they love the playstation. Why wouldn't PS users love to visit there and see games like Uncharted and GOW get super high scores consistently. Also they have a very active forum

That's flawed logic. There are a plethora of Playstation-devoted gaming publications and not a single one of them are nearly as well known as IGN, a site that covers all platforms.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Not as many people hate IGN as you seem to believe. If that was true, how do they maintain their status as one of the world's most popular gaming publications? 

Master_ShakeXXX

Because like I stated they love the playstation. Why wouldn't PS users love to visit there and see games like Uncharted and GOW get super high scores consistently. Also they have a very active forum

That's flawed logic. There are a plethora of Playstation-devoted gaming publications and not a single one of them are nearly as well known as IGN, a site that covers all platforms.

IGNs hate is both a blessing and a curse and probably a brilliant business strategy. get enough people hating you and it's free publicity

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Because making an ass out of yourself on the internet takes so much courage.

PannicAtack

You just don't like him because he doesn't say what you wanna hear. You want to hear *so and so game* is

"a modern day masterpiece!" 

"revolutionary"

"TRIPLE A"

"9.5!"

etc etc. He doesn't offer that. What he does offer is his opinions hand crafted by his own mind. Opinions shaped by his life experiences, interests, and likes, and totally unpolluted by advertisements and public perception.

Well for one he obviously displays signs of a higher than average intellect. He also has a wide vocabulary of words that he uses in interesting and funny ways, and is generally entertaining to listen to. Does the average joe meet these criteria? No, which is why more people listen to him rather than just some random uneducated fanboy.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Not as many people hate IGN as you seem to believe. If that was true, how do they maintain their status as one of the world's most popular gaming publications? 

Master_ShakeXXX

Because like I stated they love the playstation. Why wouldn't PS users love to visit there and see games like Uncharted and GOW get super high scores consistently. Also they have a very active forum

That's flawed logic. There are a plethora of Playstation-devoted gaming publications and not a single one of them are nearly as well known as IGN, a site that covers all platforms.

Master_Shake is looking for hits to his Youtube channel :(

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

You just don't like him because he doesn't say what you wanna hear. You want to hear *so and so game* is

"a modern day masterpiece!" 

"revolutionary"

"TRIPLE A"

"9.5!"

etc etc. He doesn't offer that. What he does offer is his opinions hand crafted by his own mind. Opinions shaped by his life experiences, interests, and likes, and totally unpolluted by advertisements and public perception.

Master_ShakeXXX

Well for one he obviously displays signs of a higher than average intellect. He also has a wide vocabulary of words that he uses in interesting and funny ways, and is generally entertaining to listen to. Does the average joe meet these criteria? No, which is why more people listen to him rather than just some random uneducated fanboy.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

You just don't like him because he doesn't say what you wanna hear. You want to hear *so and so game* is

"a modern day masterpiece!" 

"revolutionary"

"TRIPLE A"

"9.5!"

etc etc. He doesn't offer that. What he does offer is his opinions hand crafted by his own mind. Opinions shaped by his life experiences, interests, and likes, and totally unpolluted by advertisements and public perception.

Master_ShakeXXX

Well for one he obviously displays signs of a higher than average intellect. He also has a wide vocabulary of words that he uses in interesting and funny ways, and is generally entertaining to listen to. Does the average joe meet these criteria? No, which is why more people listen to him rather than just some random uneducated fanboy.

his high vocabulary of words is a way of making you think he's smart by saying extremely simple stuff. He spent a lot of time and air talking about a whole lot of nothing. 

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Because like I stated they love the playstation. Why wouldn't PS users love to visit there and see games like Uncharted and GOW get super high scores consistently. Also they have a very active forum

seanmcloughlin

That's flawed logic. There are a plethora of Playstation-devoted gaming publications and not a single one of them are nearly as well known as IGN, a site that covers all platforms.

IGNs hate is both a blessing and a curse and probably a brilliant business strategy. get enough people hating you and it's free publicity

Call me crazy, but I sincerely doubt that their success has been primarily fueled by people's hatred for them.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

That's flawed logic. There are a plethora of Playstation-devoted gaming publications and not a single one of them are nearly as well known as IGN, a site that covers all platforms.

Master_ShakeXXX

IGNs hate is both a blessing and a curse and probably a brilliant business strategy. get enough people hating you and it's free publicity

Call me crazy, but I sincerely doubt that their success has been primarily fueled by people's hatred for them.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

That's flawed logic. There are a plethora of Playstation-devoted gaming publications and not a single one of them are nearly as well known as IGN, a site that covers all platforms.

Master_ShakeXXX

IGNs hate is both a blessing and a curse and probably a brilliant business strategy. get enough people hating you and it's free publicity

Call me crazy, but I sincerely doubt that their success has been primarily fueled by people's hatred for them.

I'm not saying ALL their success has come from it, but when peopel talk enough about IGN even in a bad light the name starts to stick and people who could legitimately enjoy the site will find it through word of mouth. 

Well,

Thank you

For reminding me why

I always stick to bigger,

More popular guys like

TB and Yahtzee;

The small guys f*cking suck.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]And this makes him any different from every other person with Windows Movie Maker and an internet connection... how, exactly?

seanmcloughlin

Well for one he obviously displays signs of a higher than average intellect. He also has a wide vocabulary of words that he uses in interesting and funny ways, and is generally entertaining to listen to. Does the average joe meet these criteria? No, which is why more people listen to him rather than just some random uneducated fanboy.

his high vocabulary of words is a way of making you think he's smart by saying extremely simple stuff. He spent a lot of time and air talking about a whole lot of nothing. 

Well that's what we do all day on System Wars isn't it? Discuss a whole bunch of nothingness. Personally I find the nothingness that comes out of his mouth a lot more interesting than say, what comes out of kuraiman's or SNIPER's mouths.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Well for one he obviously displays signs of a higher than average intellect. He also has a wide vocabulary of words that he uses in interesting and funny ways, and is generally entertaining to listen to. Does the average joe meet these criteria? No, which is why more people listen to him rather than just some random uneducated fanboy.

Master_ShakeXXX

his high vocabulary of words is a way of making you think he's smart by saying extremely simple stuff. He spent a lot of time and air talking about a whole lot of nothing. 

Well that's what we do all day on System Wars isn't it? Discuss a whole bunch of nothingness. Personally I find the nothingness that comes out of his mouth a lot more interesting than say, what comes out of kuraiman's or SNIPER's mouths.

Well that's what we do all day on System Wars isn't it? Discuss a whole bunch of nothingness. Personally I find the nothingness that comes out of his mouth a lot more interesting than say, what comes out of kuraiman's or SNIPER's mouths.

Master_ShakeXXX

That's what I bloody said, it's no different than what's posted here everyday. 

If you enjoy him that's fine, I'm not stopping you. I on the other hand find him incredibly annoying and full of himself and does nothing but state stuff I already know and don't need to hear again

So he only attack IGN because a reviewer opinion that actuely lines up with other reviews? 

ME3 was little weird though

IDK 

Really, the bedroom in his parent's house lends extra credibility.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Well that's what we do all day on System Wars isn't it? Discuss a whole bunch of nothingness. Personally I find the nothingness that comes out of his mouth a lot more interesting than say, what comes out of kuraiman's or SNIPER's mouths.

seanmcloughlin

That's what I bloody said, it's no different than what's posted here everyday. 

If you enjoy him that's fine, I'm not stopping you. I on the other hand find him incredibly annoying and full of himself and does nothing but state stuff I already know and don't need to hear again

In concept, yes, but in execution? nooooooooooooo

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Well that's what we do all day on System Wars isn't it? Discuss a whole bunch of nothingness. Personally I find the nothingness that comes out of his mouth a lot more interesting than say, what comes out of kuraiman's or SNIPER's mouths.

Master_ShakeXXX

That's what I bloody said, it's no different than what's posted here everyday. 

If you enjoy him that's fine, I'm not stopping you. I on the other hand find him incredibly annoying and full of himself and does nothing but state stuff I already know and don't need to hear again

In concept, yes, but in execution? nooooooooooooo

Never cared for gaming journalism (actually I don't like it), specially now since it's corrupted gaming.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Well that's what we do all day on System Wars isn't it? Discuss a whole bunch of nothingness. Personally I find the nothingness that comes out of his mouth a lot more interesting than say, what comes out of kuraiman's or SNIPER's mouths.

Master_ShakeXXX

That's what I bloody said, it's no different than what's posted here everyday. 

If you enjoy him that's fine, I'm not stopping you. I on the other hand find him incredibly annoying and full of himself and does nothing but state stuff I already know and don't need to hear again

In concept, yes, but in execution? nooooooooooooo

I wouldn't say he did any better. He was all talk and had nothing new to add to the debate on the topic. If he provided a fix or something substantive then maybe but all he did was point out what everyone already knows in a profoundly loud and over the top, egotistical fashion

1. Get  a haircut.  You look like a hippie reject.  

2. Start working out.  You look skinny and weak, do you even lift?

3. You made it clear in that video you are a xbox360 fanboy and upset that PS4 got more coverage.

1. Get  a haircut.  You look like a hippie reject.  

2. Start working out.  You look skinny and weak, do you even lift?

3. You made it clear in that video you are a xbox360 fanboy and upset that PS4 got more coverage.

 

Jankarcop

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

1. Get  a haircut.  You look like a hippie reject.  

2. Start working out.  You look skinny and weak, do you even lift?

3. You made it clear in that video you are a xbox360 fanboy and upset that PS4 got more coverage.

 

clone01

FIXED

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

1. Get  a haircut.  You look like a hippie reject.  

2. Start working out.  You look skinny and weak, do you even lift?

3. You made it clear in that video you are a xbox360 fanboy and upset that PS4 got more coverage.

 

k2theswiss

[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] Please, plowmaster, provide a pic of yourself. We all have so much to learn.clone01

I don't think the plowmaster will find it funny :) but, oooo wellk2theswiss

Interesting that people complain about "mainstream game journalism" only when a game they like doesn't get a good enough score. princeofshapeir

Oh, this asshoIe again. Still talks like he's reciting an editorial he wrote for the campus newspaper. 

But that's okay, I'm just glad someone is finally brave enough to take IGN, that unassailable sacred cow of game criticism outlets, down a peg.

Oh, this asshoIe again. Still talks like he's reciting an editorial he wrote for the campus newspaper. 

But that's okay, I'm just glad someone is finally brave enough to take IGN, that unassailable sacred cow of game criticism outlets, down a peg.

Cherokee_Jack

Whether or not I agree with a person I'm all for a good debate on fragments of the video game industry: games, piracy, gamers, and, of course, gaming journalism; you can't have a debate without a person on each side. But if I had to have a conversation with that guy for half a minute I'd be so incredibly annoyed. 

I'll say this, I agree with where he was going in the first part of the video. I've seen PLENTY of people discussing this in System Wars before, it's nothing new. The second half of the video he trails off though, specifically targeting IGN and its reviews. You don't agree with the score for DA2, FFXIII and Silent Hill: Downpour? Well hot damn, they should be hanged for the crimes! And the ad space is a clear indicator that those high reviews are paid off, not a single doubt about it. 

And on the subject of all the PS4 coverage: that is what is going to garner hits to the website. Is this guy a moron? Gamers want the latest information on this new console that they can get; they want to know the intricacies of the console and what games it'll play so of course writing a bunch of articles about it will drive traffic. And he's disappointed they didn't do this for Silent Hill: Downpour? The reviewer gave the game a 4.5, why the hell would they waste their time writing these articles on a game they didn't enjoy? It's just... 

Again, first part of his video I agree with. Second half he goes into annoying prick mode. I would not view another of his videos and would not recommend. 

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Oh, this asshoIe again. Still talks like he's reciting an editorial he wrote for the campus newspaper. 

But that's okay, I'm just glad someone is finally brave enough to take IGN, that unassailable sacred cow of game criticism outlets, down a peg.

clone01

Counting all the a*sholes in the room. Well I'm definitely not alone.Xaero_Gravity

Speaking of opinion, why would I want to listen to his when I can make my own and not be a bandwagon b!tch?DragonfireXZ95

Damn...

What's with all the IGN hate? :? They have some great editors like Greg Miller, Colin Moriarty, and Anthony Gallegos.

Is it because they are the most visited gaming site?

What's with all the IGN hate? :? They have some great editors like Greg Miller, Colin Moriarty, and Anthony Gallegos.

Is it because they are the most visited gaming site?

heeweesRus

He sounds extremely paranoid. Shocking. He takes where there is some truth, then blows it out of proportion. What is the reality that you can induce from this is that major gaming sites write more pieces about games they believe will bring more traffic. Advertisers realizie this traffic for interest in their game and post their ads there. Instead, he takes the fact that he has a different opinion than some reviewers as a sign that there MUST be soemthing corrupt here other than simple business...

 

What a joke.

lx_theo

I'd rather make up my own mind on games thank you.-Wicked_Sick-

Wow this guy is a raging douchebag. I don't understand how anyone could sit and listen to him let alone take what he says seriously. Everything he is saying is hypocritical to what he is doing.

Stealth self-promotion

ActionRemix

Is that Master Shake?