RC all 4 one --- 88 game informer, 81 metascore (so far). hype exceeded?

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#1 arbitor365
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http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/ratchet-clank-all-4-one/critic-reviews

lol @ people who said this was going to be a 6/10 game

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Did this game even have a hype thread? Anyway, it's only 4 reviews so i'll wait for more. I may have to pick it up though.

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#4 MFDOOM1983
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another average game from insomniac?
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#5 Pug-Nasty
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That Sesame Street game has an 80 metascore. Just saying, games do, and should, be rated in accordance to their audience. People here are going to hype a game based on how it appeals to themselves, usually.

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I was never even sure why people were so against this game. Though we should wait for more reviews.
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#7 Blabadon
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I was never even sure why people were so against this game. Though we should wait for more reviews.meetroid8
Its gameplay wasn't anything outstanding. Or sometimes, even decent looking.
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#8 Silverbond
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There is no hype to exceed if there was never any hype.
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#9 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Well, GS reviewed it.

7.0 AE.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/ratchet-clank-all-4-one/review.html

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#10 Arach666
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lol @ people who said this was going to be a 6/10 game

arbitor365

Well,it hasn´t scored much higher than that lol.

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#11 AngryJuice
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Oh dear. I told ya.

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#12 kuraimen
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Well well another PS3 exclusive underrated by GS. Figures. They bring Gunstringer and gave it like 10 points above the Metascore and this is the opposite.
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Well well another PS3 exclusive underrated by GS. Figures. They bring Gunstringer and gave it like 10 points above the Metascore and this is the opposite.kuraimen
Yep, this was an elaborate and clever plot to underrate yet another PS3 exclusive--just like they did with Forza Motorsport 4... oh wait. :]
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#14 AngryJuice
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Well well another PS3 exclusive underrated by GS. Figures. They bring Gunstringer and gave it like 10 points above the Metascore and this is the opposite.kuraimen

There's only 5 reviews in. 78 MC. Lol.

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#15 finalstar2007
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I will pick it up soon, love the RnC games and beta was great playing online with friends, everyone i know already got it waiting for me to pick it up, sadly been very busy with exams

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#16 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well well another PS3 exclusive underrated by GS. Figures. They bring Gunstringer and gave it like 10 points above the Metascore and this is the opposite.AngryJuice

There's only 5 reviews in. 78 MC. Lol.

Still I bet it's going to end up much higher than 7. And it's Tom McShea the guy who gave Infamous 2 a 7.5 recently gave Gunstringer an 8.5! and this a 7.
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#17 AngryJuice
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[QUOTE="AngryJuice"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well well another PS3 exclusive underrated by GS. Figures. They bring Gunstringer and gave it like 10 points above the Metascore and this is the opposite.kuraimen

There's only 5 reviews in. 78 MC. Lol.

Still I bet it's going to end up much higher than 7. And it's Tom McShea the guy who gave Infamous 2 a 7.5 recently gave Gunstringer an 8.5! and this a 7.

Tom Mcshea gave The Gunstringer a 8.5 when the MC was 83. And the MC for this game is 78 and Gamespots review hasn't been counted yet. Don't forget edge who'll probably 5 it.
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well well another PS3 exclusive underrated by GS. Figures. They bring Gunstringer and gave it like 10 points above the Metascore and this is the opposite.Stevo_the_gamer
Yep, this was an elaborate and clever plot to underrate yet another PS3 exclusive--just like they did with Forza Motorsport 4... oh wait. :]

looking at the top 30 PS3 and xbox exclusive games by metascore and taking the total difference in GS scores, gamespot has rated PS3 games 89 points below the metascore. the 360 in total, 10 points below the metascore. so, in comparison to metacritic, gamespot is 9 times more favorable to the 360 than the PS3. but they are totally not biased right? even though they are among the most anti PS3 sites featured on metacritic.

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#19 Arach666
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So,now it´s not only EDGE but also GS that are biased against the PS3?

What a joke. :lol:

[spoiler] :| [/spoiler]

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#20 kuraimen
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So,now it´s not only EDGE but also GS that are biased against the PS3?

What a joke. :lol:

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No but it has always been ;). Did you miss ian's analysis?

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#21 AngryJuice
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well well another PS3 exclusive underrated by GS. Figures. They bring Gunstringer and gave it like 10 points above the Metascore and this is the opposite.arbitor365

Yep, this was an elaborate and clever plot to underrate yet another PS3 exclusive--just like they did with Forza Motorsport 4... oh wait. :]

looking at the top 30 PS3 and xbox exclusive games by metascore and taking the total difference in GS scores, gamespot has rated PS3 games 89 points below the metascore. the 360 in total, 10 points below the metascore. so, in comparison to metacritic, gamespot is 9 times more favorable to the 360 than the PS3. but they are totally not biased right? even though they are among the most anti PS3 sites featured on metacritic.

Actually Gamespot and Edge don't underrate PS3 Exclusives, the majority of people overrate them. actually, the 7 GS Gave the game I think was a bit too generous.
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Better than expected.

PS Gunstringer wasn't universally loved (see Eurogamer's scathing review).

PPS Not this conspiracy nonsense again.

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#23 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

So,now it´s not only EDGE but also GS that are biased against the PS3?

What a joke. :lol:

kuraimen

No but it has always been ;). Did you miss ian's analysis?

Apparently I did,what is that?
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#24 AngryJuice
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PS Gunstringer wasn't universally loved (see Eurogamer's scathing review).

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And Edge's.

5 out of 10.

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So it barely manages to stay within Spreadsheet level.:P

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#26 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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even though they are among the most anti PS3 sites featured on metacritic.

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If ignore the annual awards, and higher amount of HQ exclusives. Sure. lol

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#27 arbitor365
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Actually Gamespot and Edge don't underrate PS3 Exclusives, the majority of people overrate them. actually, the 7 GS Gave the game I think was a bit too generous.AngryJuice

first of all, im not suprised at all that you think that, judging by your posting history

its so ironic that people who defend GS and edge call people (like me) who point out the metacritic comparisons and platform discrepencies "conspiracy theorists." and then they turn around assert that the whole of the professional reviewing community is somehow "uber pro PS3" and "anti 360" even in light of the fact that all your forza, gears, and halo games (with the exception of ODST) have AAA metascores and alot of PS3 games like demon souls (which won GOTY awards) is AA.

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[QUOTE="AngryJuice"] Actually Gamespot and Edge don't underrate PS3 Exclusives, the majority of people overrate them. actually, the 7 GS Gave the game I think was a bit too generous.arbitor365

first of all, im not suprised at all that you think that, judging by your posting history

its so ironic that people who defend GS and edge call people (like me) who point out the metacritic comparisons and platform discrepencies "conspiracy theorists." and then they turn around assert that the whole of the professional reviewing community is somehow "uber pro PS3" and "anti 360" even in light of the fact that all your forza, gears, and halo games (with the exception of ODST) have AAA metascores and alot of PS3 games like demon souls (which won GOTY awards) is AA.

What about my Posting History makes you think that. Was it that time I said Halo Gears and Forza are all bad, or that time I said P2P Online sucks, or that time I made fun of Kinect, as Kinect imo sucks? Or you can show me something else.
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#29 soulitane
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

So,now it´s not only EDGE but also GS that are biased against the PS3?

What a joke. :lol:

Arach666

No but it has always been ;). Did you miss ian's analysis?

Apparently I did,what is that?

Just a list of a bunch of scores that say GS on average rates PS3 exclusives under the MC average while it's the opposite fore 360 exclusives. Which certain people now go around say that GS is completely bias against PS3 exclusives even when you can use other evidence which shows they aren't.
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#30 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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alot of PS3 games like demon souls (which won GOTY awards) is AA.

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Demon's Souls has a friggin' 89. Come on now.

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#31 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]

No but it has always been ;). Did you miss ian's analysis?

soulitane

Apparently I did,what is that?

Just a list of a bunch of scores that say GS on average rates PS3 exclusives under the MC average while it's the opposite fore 360 exclusives. Which certain people now go around say that GS is completely bias against PS3 exclusives even when you can use other evidence which shows they aren't.

Actually Ian did a pretty good job addressing all those points. He never said it was a conspiracy and made sure to explain why the conspiracy theory is dumb. Although he pretty much proved there's a bias.

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#32 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]

No but it has always been ;). Did you miss ian's analysis?

soulitane

Apparently I did,what is that?

Just a list of a bunch of scores that say GS on average rates PS3 exclusives under the MC average while it's the opposite fore 360 exclusives. Which certain people now go around say that GS is completely bias against PS3 exclusives even when you can use other evidence which shows they aren't.

Hmmm,even though this very site gave already two PS3 exclusives GOTY and a AAAAE as well(wich the 360 never got)?

Sounds like they hate the PS3. :P

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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="Arach666"] Apparently I did,what is that?kuraimen

Just a list of a bunch of scores that say GS on average rates PS3 exclusives under the MC average while it's the opposite fore 360 exclusives. Which certain people now go around say that GS is completely bias against PS3 exclusives even when you can use other evidence which shows they aren't.

Actually Ian did a pretty good job addressing all those points. He never said it was a conspiracy and made sure to explain why the conspiracy theory is dumb. Although he pretty much proved there's a bias.

and like I said there are other things which don't show bias, like all the awards they give to PS3 exclusives even when there are other games that could have deserved them. That doesn't sound like bias to me but if you want to continue with this then go on.
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#34 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="Arach666"] Apparently I did,what is that?Arach666

Just a list of a bunch of scores that say GS on average rates PS3 exclusives under the MC average while it's the opposite fore 360 exclusives. Which certain people now go around say that GS is completely bias against PS3 exclusives even when you can use other evidence which shows they aren't.

Hmmm,even though this very site gave already two PS3 exclusives GOTY and a AAAAE as well(wich the 360 never got)?

Sounds like they hate the PS3. :P

Also giving graphics awards to PS3 exclusives when there are other games that arguably deserve them more.
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#35 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] Just a list of a bunch of scores that say GS on average rates PS3 exclusives under the MC average while it's the opposite fore 360 exclusives. Which certain people now go around say that GS is completely bias against PS3 exclusives even when you can use other evidence which shows they aren't.soulitane

Actually Ian did a pretty good job addressing all those points. He never said it was a conspiracy and made sure to explain why the conspiracy theory is dumb. Although he pretty much proved there's a bias.

and like I said there are other things which don't show bias, like all the awards they give to PS3 exclusives even when there are other games that could have deserved them. That doesn't sound like bias to me but if you want to continue with this then go on.

Yeah that's because there's no conspiracy to underrate PS3 games. Ian addressed that same point like a thousand times on that thread.
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Well well another PS3 exclusive underrated by GS. Figures. They bring Gunstringer and gave it like 10 points above the Metascore and this is the opposite.kuraimen

Have you played it? Because I played the beta, and it really wasn't anything to get excited about. The short time I had with the beta was more time than I could have wanted with this game.

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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] Just a list of a bunch of scores that say GS on average rates PS3 exclusives under the MC average while it's the opposite fore 360 exclusives. Which certain people now go around say that GS is completely bias against PS3 exclusives even when you can use other evidence which shows they aren't.soulitane

Hmmm,even though this very site gave already two PS3 exclusives GOTY and a AAAAE as well(wich the 360 never got)?

Sounds like they hate the PS3. :P

Also giving graphics awards to PS3 exclusives when there are other games that arguably deserve them more.

Such is the extent of the bias against the PS3 in here!
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well well another PS3 exclusive underrated by GS. Figures. They bring Gunstringer and gave it like 10 points above the Metascore and this is the opposite.arbitor365

Yep, this was an elaborate and clever plot to underrate yet another PS3 exclusive--just like they did with Forza Motorsport 4... oh wait. :]

looking at the top 30 PS3 and xbox exclusive games by metascore and taking the total difference in GS scores, gamespot has rated PS3 games 89 points below the metascore. the 360 in total, 10 points below the metascore. so, in comparison to metacritic, gamespot is 9 times more favorable to the 360 than the PS3. but they are totally not biased right? even though they are among the most anti PS3 sites featured on metacritic.

Yep, they're so anti PS3 that they have a PS3 exclusive scored a 10 and gave GOTY awards to some PS3 exclusives.

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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Actually Ian did a pretty good job addressing all those points. He never said it was a conspiracy and made sure to explain why the conspiracy theory is dumb. Although he pretty much proved there's a bias.

kuraimen

and like I said there are other things which don't show bias, like all the awards they give to PS3 exclusives even when there are other games that could have deserved them. That doesn't sound like bias to me but if you want to continue with this then go on.

Yeah that's because there's no conspiracy to underrate PS3 games. Ian addressed that same point like a thousand times on that thread.

Oh right the cognitive bias or whatever you want to call it :lol: Keep believing whatever you want to believe :lol:

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Well well another PS3 exclusive underrated by GS. Figures. They bring Gunstringer and gave it like 10 points above the Metascore and this is the opposite.kuraimen
You act as if every PS3 exclusive deserves a high score...

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Yeah that's because there's no conspiracy to underrate PS3 games.kuraimen
How do you know? Gamespot could be very well acting under the cover of night to cleverly-undercut each and every PS3 exclusive that comes to the surface, but doing so in the most unnoticeable ways. How can you be sure? Time is against us, and the perpetrators are swift. We must act! :o

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#42 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well well another PS3 exclusive underrated by GS. Figures. They bring Gunstringer and gave it like 10 points above the Metascore and this is the opposite.Pug-Nasty

Have you played it? Because I played the beta, and it really wasn't anything to get excited about. The short time I had with the beta was more time than I could have wanted with this game.

I did and I agree but to give something like The Gunstringer an 8.5 and then give this a 7? I don't buy a game such as the Gunstringer is that much better than this or Infamous 2 that much worse than it.
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I did and I agree but to give something like The Gunstringer an 8.5 and then give this a 7? I don't buy a game such as the Gunstringer is that much better than this or Infamous 2 that much worse than it.kuraimen
Comparing two vastly different games' scores? Really?
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well well another PS3 exclusive underrated by GS. Figures. They bring Gunstringer and gave it like 10 points above the Metascore and this is the opposite.kuraimen

Have you played it? Because I played the beta, and it really wasn't anything to get excited about. The short time I had with the beta was more time than I could have wanted with this game.

I did and I agree but to give something like The Gunstringer an 8.5 and then give this a 7? I don't buy a game such as the Gunstringer is that much better than this or Infamous 2 that much worse than it.

Those two games are rated to different standards most likely, there is no way you can compare them.
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well well another PS3 exclusive underrated by GS. Figures. They bring Gunstringer and gave it like 10 points above the Metascore and this is the opposite.kuraimen

Have you played it? Because I played the beta, and it really wasn't anything to get excited about. The short time I had with the beta was more time than I could have wanted with this game.

I did and I agree but to give something like The Gunstringer an 8.5 and then give this a 7? I don't buy a game such as the Gunstringer is that much better than this or Infamous 2 that much worse than it.

That's like comparing a puzzle game to an RPG...

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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]

No but it has always been ;). Did you miss ian's analysis?

soulitane

Apparently I did,what is that?

Just a list of a bunch of scores that say GS on average rates PS3 exclusives under the MC average while it's the opposite fore 360 exclusives. Which certain people now go around say that GS is completely bias against PS3 exclusives even when you can use other evidence which shows they aren't.

Let me just clear it up real quick: it was a list of EVERY (as in, I didn't cherry pick games to try to favor my argument) retail exclusive on 360 or PS3 that GS had reviewed, compared with those games' MC score. PS3 games were a cumulative 64 points below the MC, and 360 were a total of 59 points above. Throughout the analysis and following discussion, I stated repeatedly that I was attempting to prove (or even believed) that the GS staff has some kind of intentional, concious pro 360/anti PS3 agenda or conspiracy, only that there was a pattern of deviation in GS's scores versus the average to score PS3 games under and 360 games over. For those interested, I'm still in the process of making the more thorough analysis that was asked for by people that disagreed with my methods, but I'm waiting till the end of the year to include the remaining 2011 games . Ok. Let's get back on topic now.

Non-hyped game. No flop. But another AE, bringing PS3 up to 1 AAAE, 5 AAE, and 4 AE for the year so far (versus 360's 1 AAAE, 2 AAE, and 0 AE). It's all up to Uncharted, Dance Central, and Sesame Street now. If U3 gets below 8, and DC and SS both get 8+, 360 will catch up for the year in the Metagame... :o

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Like every other R&C game has had like 8 points higher than that on average, that's not that great. I knew gameplay would suffer with such a focus on gimmicky multiplayer.

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="soulitane"] and like I said there are other things which don't show bias, like all the awards they give to PS3 exclusives even when there are other games that could have deserved them. That doesn't sound like bias to me but if you want to continue with this then go on.soulitane

Yeah that's because there's no conspiracy to underrate PS3 games. Ian addressed that same point like a thousand times on that thread.

Oh right the cognitive bias or whatever you want to call it :lol: Keep believing whatever you want to believe :lol:

Yeah, I touched on possible reasons in the OP, but made no attempt to prove any of them, because the thread wasn't about WHY, but just showing that there is a pattern. It's everyone else that tried to turn it into me saying something more than that :)

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[QUOTE="soulitane"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Yeah that's because there's no conspiracy to underrate PS3 games. Ian addressed that same point like a thousand times on that thread.ianuilliam

Oh right the cognitive bias or whatever you want to call it :lol: Keep believing whatever you want to believe :lol:

Yeah, I touched on possible reasons in the OP, but made no attempt to prove any of them, because the thread wasn't about WHY, but just showing that there is a pattern. It's everyone else that tried to turn it into me saying something more than that :)

I never stated you said anything, it's just getting stupid at this point how every time GS rates a PS3 game even slightly lower than average someone shouts bias or if they rate a 360 game slightly higher they scream bias.
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#50 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] Oh right the cognitive bias or whatever you want to call it :lol: Keep believing whatever you want to believe :lol:

soulitane

Yeah, I touched on possible reasons in the OP, but made no attempt to prove any of them, because the thread wasn't about WHY, but just showing that there is a pattern. It's everyone else that tried to turn it into me saying something more than that :)

I never stated you said anything, it's just getting stupid at this point how every time GS rates a PS3 game even slightly lower than average someone shouts bias or if they rate a 360 game slightly higher they scream bias.

I don't disagree, actually. And under-rated as Infamous2 may have been, the "Tom McLem" and so on comments don't really do anything but make cows look bad, IMO. I may make a point of completely avoiding the word "bias" (even though I made sure to explain how I was using it last time) whenever I get around to making my update.