RC all 4 one --- 88 game informer, 81 metascore (so far). hype exceeded?

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

lol @ people who said this was going to be a 6/10 game

Arach666

Well,it hasn´t scored much higher than that lol.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

Have you played it? Because I played the beta, and it really wasn't anything to get excited about. The short time I had with the beta was more time than I could have wanted with this game.

soulitane

This. You can't look at it like 8.5 > 7.5, so The Gunstringer > Infamous 2. That's not how it works. It doesn't even work that way with games in the same genre, since they can be reviewed at different times by different people.

I haven't played any 360 exclusives this year, not that there were any (har har har), but I played KZ3 and R3 and I'd give them a 7.5 and a 7.0, respectively. I would have knocked them both down two points right off the bat for the completely stripped down MP offerings compared to their predecessors, and then they would have lost more for being lackluster in other ways.

Actually, they may both be 7.0s, but then a gain at least KZ3's MP worked, for the most part.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

So,now it´s not only EDGE but also GS that are biased against the PS3?

What a joke. :lol:

kuraimen

No but it has always been ;). Did you miss ian's analysis?

It's fallen into the 75 bracket now and it's only had 8 reviews compare that to the other main series they were all over the mid 80s some like Up Your Arsenal were 91.

And 7/10 on Gamespot. The only score that matters in the hype/flop metagame.foxhound_fox

Was there even hype for this game?MushroomWig

The idea that GameSpot is somehow biased against the PlayStation 3 is really baffling to me. Not only have we rated exclusives extremely high in the past (Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Resistence 2, etc) but we have given two recent Game of the Year award (Metal Gear and Demon's Souls) to games only found on that platform. There is no conspiracy.

The idea that GameSpot is somehow biased against the PlayStation 3 is really baffling to me. Not only have we rated exclusives extremely high in the past (Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Resistence 2, etc) but we have given two recent Game of the Year award (Metal Gear and Demon's Souls) to games only found on that platform. There is no conspiracy.

TomMcShea

Was there even hype for this game?MushroomWig

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28894271/---------ratchet-and-clank-all-4-one-hype-thread---------?page=0

He was warned too.

I was never even sure why people were so against this game. Though we should wait for more reviews.meetroid8

Hmmmm, I didn't honestly realize people were against the game. I thought the Ratchet and Clank franchise was pretty well liked.

I actually think these scores might be not quite what it would be hyped to be, simply because I was under the impression this was a pretty well-regarded series.

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]I was never even sure why people were so against this game. Though we should wait for more reviews.LostProphetFLCL

Hmmmm, I didn't honestly realize people were against the game. I thought the Ratchet and Clank franchise was pretty well liked.

I actually think these scores might be not quite what it would be hyped to be, simply because I was under the impression this was a pretty well-regarded series.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

So,now it´s not only EDGE but also GS that are biased against the PS3?

What a joke. :lol:

DarkLink77

No but it has always been ;). Did you miss ian's analysis?

The idea that GameSpot is somehow biased against the PlayStation 3 is really baffling to me. Not only have we rated exclusives extremely high in the past (Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Resistence 2, etc) but we have given two recent Game of the Year award (Metal Gear and Demon's Souls) to games only found on that platform. There is no conspiracy.

TomMcShea

The idea that GameSpot is somehow biased against the PlayStation 3 is really baffling to me.

TomMcShea

Let's be honest here, did you honestly expect anything but cries of conspiracy from this community? They'll never be pleased unfortunately.

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] I did and I agree but to give something like The Gunstringer an 8.5 and then give this a 7? I don't buy a game such as the Gunstringer is that much better than this or Infamous 2 that much worse than it.Pug-Nasty

This. You can't look at it like 8.5 > 7.5, so The Gunstringer > Infamous 2. That's not how it works. It doesn't even work that way with games in the same genre, since they can be reviewed at different times by different people.

I haven't played any 360 exclusives this year, not that there were any (har har har), but I played KZ3 and R3 and I'd give them a 7.5 and a 7.0, respectively. I would have knocked them both down two points right off the bat for the completely stripped down MP offerings compared to their predecessors, and then they would have lost more for being lackluster in other ways.

Actually, they may both be 7.0s, but then a gain at least KZ3's MP worked, for the most part.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]

No but it has always been ;). Did you miss ian's analysis?

kuraimen

The idea that GameSpot is somehow biased against the PlayStation 3 is really baffling to me. Not only have we rated exclusives extremely high in the past (Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Resistence 2, etc) but we have given two recent Game of the Year award (Metal Gear and Demon's Souls) to games only found on that platform. There is no conspiracy.

TomMcShea

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] Those two games are rated to different standards most likely, there is no way you can compare them.kuraimen

This. You can't look at it like 8.5 > 7.5, so The Gunstringer > Infamous 2. That's not how it works. It doesn't even work that way with games in the same genre, since they can be reviewed at different times by different people.

I haven't played any 360 exclusives this year, not that there were any (har har har), but I played KZ3 and R3 and I'd give them a 7.5 and a 7.0, respectively. I would have knocked them both down two points right off the bat for the completely stripped down MP offerings compared to their predecessors, and then they would have lost more for being lackluster in other ways.

Actually, they may both be 7.0s, but then a gain at least KZ3's MP worked, for the most part.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] You mean the one that was trying to prove something statistically without using any statistics? :lol: He never did fix that, did he?DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] He used statistics just not the ones you wanted, but he's working on that ;)kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

This. You can't look at it like 8.5 > 7.5, so The Gunstringer > Infamous 2. That's not how it works. It doesn't even work that way with games in the same genre, since they can be reviewed at different times by different people.

I haven't played any 360 exclusives this year, not that there were any (har har har), but I played KZ3 and R3 and I'd give them a 7.5 and a 7.0, respectively. I would have knocked them both down two points right off the bat for the completely stripped down MP offerings compared to their predecessors, and then they would have lost more for being lackluster in other ways.

Actually, they may both be 7.0s, but then a gain at least KZ3's MP worked, for the most part.

delta3074

Well with that I agree :P

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

So,now it´s not only EDGE but also GS that are biased against the PS3?

What a joke. :lol:

DarkLink77

No but it has always been ;). Did you miss ian's analysis?

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]

No but it has always been ;). Did you miss ian's analysis?

ianuilliam

Well, yeah. But that's true of pretty much anything.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] He didn't use any statistics at all. He just did some addition and subtraction.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] He didn't use any statistics at all. He just did some addition and subtraction.

DarkLink77

And again, the definition of statistics doesn't involve applying the particular formula you want him to, it's not like all statistical analysis is done the same way.

The idea that GameSpot is somehow biased against the PlayStation 3 is really baffling to me. Not only have we rated exclusives extremely high in the past (Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Resistence 2, etc) but we have given two recent Game of the Year award (Metal Gear and Demon's Souls) to games only found on that platform. There is no conspiracy.

TomMcShea

The idea that GameSpot is somehow biased against the PlayStation 3 is really baffling to me. Not only have we rated exclusives extremely high in the past (Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Resistence 2, etc) but we have given two recent Game of the Year award (Metal Gear and Demon's Souls) to games only found on that platform. There is no conspiracy.

TomMcShea

Cool.Tom posted in this thread.

Screw the haters,Tom.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Definition of statistics: Statistics is the study of the collection, organization, analysis, and interpretation of data He collected data: the scores He organized data: according to the scores in charts He analyzed data: compared it to other data He interpreted data: he draw conclusions from it He used statistics alright, you didn't agree with his analysis and interpretation but he did it. There are many was to do an statistical analysis.kuraimen

And again, the definition of statistics doesn't involve applying the particular formula you want him to, it's not like all statistical analysis is done the same way.

Which is fine, and I don't care if you want to examine it that way, but it's not an actual form of statistical analysis, which I wouldn't expect anyone on this forum to actually do, because it would take forever, and it operates under the assumption that MetaCritric scores have any meaning at all (they don't).

[QUOTE="TomMcShea"]

The idea that GameSpot is somehow biased against the PlayStation 3 is really baffling to me. Not only have we rated exclusives extremely high in the past (Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Resistence 2, etc) but we have given two recent Game of the Year award (Metal Gear and Demon's Souls) to games only found on that platform. There is no conspiracy.

WithoutGraceXII

Yes, but they're too smart for that. Gamespot's gonna have to try something new. I suggest giving a PS3 exclusive a 11/10.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Definition of statistics: Statistics is the study of the collection, organization, analysis, and interpretation of data He collected data: the scores He organized data: according to the scores in charts He analyzed data: compared it to other data He interpreted data: he draw conclusions from it He used statistics alright, you didn't agree with his analysis and interpretation but he did it. There are many was to do an statistical analysis.DerekLoffin

[QUOTE="TomMcShea"]

The idea that GameSpot is somehow biased against the PlayStation 3 is really baffling to me. Not only have we rated exclusives extremely high in the past (Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Resistence 2, etc) but we have given two recent Game of the Year award (Metal Gear and Demon's Souls) to games only found on that platform. There is no conspiracy.

Heil68

[QUOTE="WithoutGraceXII"][QUOTE="TomMcShea"]

The idea that GameSpot is somehow biased against the PlayStation 3 is really baffling to me. Not only have we rated exclusives extremely high in the past (Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Resistence 2, etc) but we have given two recent Game of the Year award (Metal Gear and Demon's Souls) to games only found on that platform. There is no conspiracy.

waltefmoney

Yes, but they're too smart for that. Gamespot's gonna have to try something new. I suggest giving a PS3 exclusive a 11/10.

How about an A/10, that'll really confuse people.

[QUOTE="WithoutGraceXII"][QUOTE="TomMcShea"]

The idea that GameSpot is somehow biased against the PlayStation 3 is really baffling to me. Not only have we rated exclusives extremely high in the past (Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Resistence 2, etc) but we have given two recent Game of the Year award (Metal Gear and Demon's Souls) to games only found on that platform. There is no conspiracy.

waltefmoney

Yes, but they're too smart for that. Gamespot's gonna have to try something new. I suggest giving a PS3 exclusive a 11/10.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="WithoutGraceXII"] The fact you just denied the bias conspiracy proves there is a conspiracy. Also any goty awards or high rated ps3 exclusives are given solely to throw the system wars detectives off the scent.Pug-Nasty

Yes, but they're too smart for that. Gamespot's gonna have to try something new. I suggest giving a PS3 exclusive a 11/10.

How about an A/10, that'll really confuse people.

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Yes, but they're too smart for that. Gamespot's gonna have to try something new. I suggest giving a PS3 exclusive a 11/10.

DarkLink77

How about an A/10, that'll really confuse people.

Then I suggest a Cat/10.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

How about an A/10, that'll really confuse people.

Pug-Nasty

Then I suggest a Cat/10.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] There is no agreeing with or disagreeing with statistics. There is no alternative interpretation of mathematical formulas. You either do them or you don't. He didn't.DarkLink77

And again, the definition of statistics doesn't involve applying the particular formula you want him to, it's not like all statistical analysis is done the same way.

Which is fine, and I don't care if you want to examine it that way, but it's not an actual form of statistical analysis, which I wouldn't expect anyone on this forum to actually do, because it would take forever, and it operates under the assumption that MetaCritric scores have any meaning at all (they don't).

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

And again, the definition of statistics doesn't involve applying the particular formula you want him to, it's not like all statistical analysis is done the same way.

kuraimen

Which is fine, and I don't care if you want to examine it that way, but it's not an actual form of statistical analysis, which I wouldn't expect anyone on this forum to actually do, because it would take forever, and it operates under the assumption that MetaCritric scores have any meaning at all (they don't).

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Saying I added up all these numbers and this number is bigger than that number is not statistics.

Which is fine, and I don't care if you want to examine it that way, but it's not an actual form of statistical analysis, which I wouldn't expect anyone on this forum to actually do, because it would take forever, and it operates under the assumption that MetaCritric scores have any meaning at all (they don't).

DarkLink77

I think it does, this is not rocket science. But anyways Ian is working on a more detailed analysis as he said.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Here is a simple description of an statistical analysis that uses only sum and division: Descriptive statistics summarize data. For example, the shooting percentage in basketball is a descriptive statistic that summarizes the performance of a player or a team. This number is the number of shots made divided by the number of shots taken. A player who shoots 33% is making approximately one shot in every three. One making 25% is hitting once in four. The percentage summarizes or describes multiple discrete events. Or, consider the scourge of many students, the grade point average. This single number describes the general performance of a student across the range of their course experiences. No need for any complex or further analysis because it is not needed but it IS statistics.kuraimen

I think it does, this is not rocket science. But anyways Ian is working on a more detailed analysis as he said.

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] There is no agreeing with or disagreeing with statistics. There is no alternative interpretation of mathematical formulas. You either do them or you don't. He didn't.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Saying I added up all these numbers and this number is bigger than that number is not statistics.

Which is fine, and I don't care if you want to examine it that way, but it's not an actual form of statistical analysis, which I wouldn't expect anyone on this forum to actually do, because it would take forever, and it operates under the assumption that MetaCritric scores have any meaning at all (they don't).

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="DerekLoffin"] That's a nice claim and all, like to back it up?

DerekLoffin

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Here is a simple description of an statistical analysis that uses only sum and division: Descriptive statistics summarize data. For example, the shooting percentage in basketball is a descriptive statistic that summarizes the performance of a player or a team. This number is the number of shots made divided by the number of shots taken. A player who shoots 33% is making approximately one shot in every three. One making 25% is hitting once in four. The percentage summarizes or describes multiple discrete events. Or, consider the scourge of many students, the grade point average. This single number describes the general performance of a student across the range of their course experiences. No need for any complex or further analysis because it is not needed but it IS statistics.ianuilliam

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Do you not know how to do math or something? :?DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"] No, I know stats and math quite well thank you. You seem to be using your own private definition of what stats is, and I'm sorry it doesn't match up well with the rest of the world.kuraimen