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#51 _AsasN_
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]

[QUOTE="MrPostman4Chi"]Yea man i think your right,these games so far have not been close to what sony was talking about back in 05.With the 360 on the other hand,it wasnt hyped no where near as much as ps3 was.But idk man,i guess things will change when mgs4 comes out.Synthetic_NinJI

I hope so. Otherwise Sony just looks like a bunch of asses.

There already do.

"People will buy PS3 even if it doesnt have any games"

Well, seeing as how so many mindless people around here claim it has no games, I guess that's true.

and my favorite

"Xbox 360 is still last gen"

Thats enough reason for any smart, reasonable adult to jump off the Sony bandwagon



Don't talk about being reasonable or smart, if you don't convey those things yourself. It's one comment that a company made to try and get more attention. How hard is that to understand? What do you expect them to say? "The 360 is a great system, and has good games, go buy that" lol

Get a clue.
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#52 casey7672
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[QUOTE="bragac200"]Actually the games just suck. Occam's razor.fenwickhotmail

yup

Why did everywhere give R & C 9.0-9.5 and GS gave it a 7.5? The PS3 cost more to start with because it has a BR HD movie player also among other smaller features that add up to be $200 more than what the 360 offered.

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#53 soulfinger
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As much as reviewing is subjective, there's something not right when a site like GS gives a game 7.5 when just about every other review to date from well know and respecting gaming sites and mags are giving it around 9.0.
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#54 casey7672
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As much as reviewing is subjective, there's something not right when a site like GS gives a game 7.5 when just about every other review to date from well know and respecting gaming sites and mags are giving it around 9.0. soulfinger

Yep!

IGN - 9.4

Game Informer - 9.25

1up - 9.0

The lowest I've seen other than GS is 9.0.

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#55 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]

[QUOTE="bragac200"]Actually the games just suck. Occam's razor.bragac200

i agree with Occams Razor...which is why i disagree with the R&C review. Its more likeley that GS is wrong than that 10+ review sites are over-rating R&C to please fanboys.

If it got a 7.5 then it's seriously mediocre.



What? I hope you don't seriously think games reviewed with a 7.5 are "mediocre"...hell it even says "good" right under the games review score. (Applies to all games, not just RnC)
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#56 sainraja
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[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]

[QUOTE="bragac200"]Actually the games just suck. Occam's razor.bragac200

i agree with Occams Razor...which is why i disagree with the R&C review. Its more likeley that GS is wrong than that 10+ review sites are over-rating R&C to please fanboys.

Oh come on. Gamespot is the best reviewer, andthe other "top 10" reviewers are basically retarded. If it got a 7.5 then it's seriously mediocre. Gamespot doesn't accidentally review AAA games as "seriously mediocre." Just to put things in perspective, IGN gave Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball for the Xbox 1 like a 9.2. 1UP is just stupid. The other sites are BS.

Plus- Rachet and Clank is a platformer. What were you expecting? It's a platformer for chrissakes, not the sequel to Oblivion.

And it does a great job of being what it is, a great platformer. GameSpot did not do justice to R&C. Calling every other site retarded isn't as retarded as calling GS bias or unfair with its review. GameSpot is ONE site out of many. What makes their word better than the others?

The guy who reviewed R&C is a big SPORTS fan. How can you expect someone who isn't into platformers to give an accurate rating for a game that is a platformer?

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#57 0rin
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[QUOTE="bragac200"]Actually the games just suck. Occam's razor.-Serpahim-

i agree with Occams Razor...which is why i disagree with the R&C review. Its more likeley that GS is wrong than that 10+ review sites are over-rating R&C to please fanboys.



I agree with this as well. The simplest solution = GS is off-base (as an opinion in theory, can not be "wrong") with their review, and there for their review should be overlooked and discredited.
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#58 Ontain
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[QUOTE="bragac200"]Actually the games just suck. Occam's razor.-Serpahim-

i agree with Occams Razor...which is why i disagree with the R&C review. Its more likeley that GS is wrong than that 10+ review sites are over-rating R&C to please fanboys.

opinions aren't wrong.

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#60 p2rus
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[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]

[QUOTE="bragac200"]Actually the games just suck. Occam's razor.Ontain

i agree with Occams Razor...which is why i disagree with the R&C review. Its more likeley that GS is wrong than that 10+ review sites are over-rating R&C to please fanboys.

opinions aren't wrong.

what about this? "i think the holocoust never happened" is that wrong?
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#61 Donkey_Puncher
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It's threads like these that put PS3's situation into perspective. Are it's fans really this desperate? It got a 7.5, get over it.

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#62 elite_ferns1
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i played hs, warhawk and lire and they deserve their score.

R&C was a bit too much though it deserved a 8.0

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#63 -shmelo-
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I agree. The PS3 boasts about its specs and is making us expect some pretty damn epic games, and it just is not delivering. R&C does not look like its graphics got any better, a little more polished up around the edges, but no significance from the PS2, same with game play, so why should it get perfect?
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#64 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]

[QUOTE="bragac200"]Actually the games just suck. Occam's razor.bragac200

i agree with Occams Razor...which is why i disagree with the R&C review. Its more likeley that GS is wrong than that 10+ review sites are over-rating R&C to please fanboys.

Oh come on. Gamespot is the best reviewer, andthe other "top 10" reviewers are basically retarded. If it got a 7.5 then it's seriously mediocre. Gamespot doesn't accidentally review AAA games as "seriously mediocre." Just to put things in perspective, IGN gave Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball for the Xbox 1 like a 9.2. 1UP is just stupid. The other sites are BS.

Plus- Rachet and Clank is a platformer. What were you expecting? It's a platformer for chrissakes, not the sequel to Oblivion.

Gamespot gave Perfect Dark Zero and Warioware each a score which equates to AAA status. Gamespot may not accidentally review AAA games as seriously mediocre, but they accidentally review low AA games as AAA games it seems.

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#65 Hitamaru-homia
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]

So we were told that the PS3 was going to be the system that would rival any other system to date, whose games were supposed to revolutionize gaming, basically we were to told we wouldn't believe our eyes when we got our hands on it. I even started to believe this when the price was announced. I mean with something that expensive it had to have something amazing under the hood. So with that all in mind, it is plausible to think that GS is also expecting these promises to be a reality and therefore judge the PS3 games with the same standard Sony claimed the PS3 to be.

What do you think? Is this plausible?

Awinagainov

i made this same topic yesterday, and i agree with you. i'll buy a ps3 when i get 180p @ 120 fps

180p NOW thats nex gen xD!

anyways,

i got ps3,enjoy and enjoy it.

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#66 mmirza23
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I agree. The PS3 boasts about its specs and is making us expect some pretty damn epic games, and it just is not delivering. R&C does not look like its graphics got any better, a little more polished up around the edges, but no significance from the PS2, same with game play, so why should it get perfect?-shmelo-
have you played it? it looks and plays like nothing from the ps2 series, alot better.
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#67 osan0
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not really TC. i mean if they were reviewing something that looked and played like ninja bread man on the PS3 (and it was being sold at full price) then u might have a point. but i dont think any reviewer is expecting the PS3 to put out graphics that would completly humble a 360, do it all at 1080P native and run it at 120FPS. despite sonys crap, im pretty sure reviewers are happy with 30FPS at 720P for PS3 games and wont dock marks for these (ive never seen it mentioned as a complaint anyway).

GS gave R&C 7.5 because, as far as they were concerned, it was 7.5 material. u may disagree with them, fair enough, but theres no conspiracy here. there giving there honest opinion...something i expect of every review of a game. they've come down like a ton of bricks on some of wiis and PCs big hitters too so its not like there just picking on PS3. some ive agreed with (TP was not 9 material imho) and some i havent (an 8 for deus ex 1? seriously?). i would much rather they be honest than if they just wait for a few reviews and then fall in line.

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#68 EvilZero86
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[QUOTE="bragac200"]Actually the games just suck. Occam's razor.-Serpahim-

i agree with Occams Razor...which is why i disagree with the R&C review. Its more likeley that GS is wrong than that 10+ review sites are over-rating R&C to please fanboys.

lol, so now its a conspiracy with other gamesites. Get real. Its just Gamespot dislike for the PS3 dude. Its damn obvious.

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#69 EvilZero86
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[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]

[QUOTE="bragac200"]Actually the games just suck. Occam's razor.bragac200

i agree with Occams Razor...which is why i disagree with the R&C review. Its more likeley that GS is wrong than that 10+ review sites are over-rating R&C to please fanboys.

Oh come on. Gamespot is the best reviewer, andthe other "top 10" reviewers are basically retarded. If it got a 7.5 then it's seriously mediocre. Gamespot doesn't accidentally review AAA games as "seriously mediocre." Just to put things in perspective, IGN gave Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball for the Xbox 1 like a 9.2. 1UP is just stupid. The other sites are BS.

Plus- Rachet and Clank is a platformer. What were you expecting? It's a platformer for chrissakes, not the sequel to Oblivion.

"Best Reviewer" are you serious!!! yeah PDZ 9.0 was completely revolutionary. Madden 8.5 was completely awesome, come on its NBA live from last gen.

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#70 i-lick-monkeys
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Actually the games just suck. Occam's razor.bragac200

no the games are amazing

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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]

[QUOTE="bragac200"]Actually the games just suck. Occam's razor.p2rus

i agree with Occams Razor...which is why i disagree with the R&C review. Its more likeley that GS is wrong than that 10+ review sites are over-rating R&C to please fanboys.

opinions aren't wrong.

what about this? "i think the holocoust never happened" is that wrong?

what is percieved is what is real. So no, that is not wrong. That would be if the event even qualified to be an opinion.

Its not an opinion though:|

in mathematecs and logic there can be no opinions about some claims, equations, and arguments, because often these kinds of statements are either valid or invalid, and true or false, and not open to contradicting opinions.

so no, both ways it would not work in your favor to support your horrible example

------look up platos analogy of the divided line-------

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#72 p2rus
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[QUOTE="p2rus"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]

[QUOTE="bragac200"]Actually the games just suck. Occam's razor.TClms5400

i agree with Occams Razor...which is why i disagree with the R&C review. Its more likeley that GS is wrong than that 10+ review sites are over-rating R&C to please fanboys.

opinions aren't wrong.

what about this? "i think the holocoust never happened" is that wrong?

what is percieved is what is real. So no, that is not wrong. That would be if the event even qualified to be an opinion.

Its not an opinion though:|

in mathematecs and logic there can be no opinions about some claims, equations, and arguments, because often these kinds of statements are either valid or invalid, and true or false, and not open to contradicting opinions.

so no, both ways it would not work in your favorto support your horrible example

------look up platos analogy of the divided line-------

all im saying is that opinions can be wrong...the holocoust did happen, that is an opinion, but its a twisted and completly wrong one. its not just perception its just the fact that whoever says that is wrong. blatantly.

and to defend someones review because its their opinion... i guess that giving bioshock a 5.0 for not being on bluray or whatever is also a defendable position.

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#73 the_h_bomb
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i agree with Occams Razor...which is why i disagree with the R&C review. Its more likeley that GS is wrong than that 10+ review sites are over-rating R&C to please fanboys.

-Serpahim-

Reviews cant be wrong because they're just opinion, also Edge and 1Up reviews werent far off gamespots

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#74 tuddalicious
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[QUOTE="TClms5400"][QUOTE="p2rus"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]

[QUOTE="bragac200"]Actually the games just suck. Occam's razor.p2rus

i agree with Occams Razor...which is why i disagree with the R&C review. Its more likeley that GS is wrong than that 10+ review sites are over-rating R&C to please fanboys.

opinions aren't wrong.

what about this? "i think the holocoust never happened" is that wrong?

what is percieved is what is real. So no, that is not wrong. That would be if the event even qualified to be an opinion.

Its not an opinion though:|

in mathematecs and logic there can be no opinions about some claims, equations, and arguments, because often these kinds of statements are either valid or invalid, and true or false, and not open to contradicting opinions.

so no, both ways it would not work in your favorto support your horrible example

------look up platos analogy of the divided line-------

all im saying is that opinions can be wrong...the holocoust did happen, that is an opinion, but its a twisted and completly wrong one. its not just perception its just the fact that whoever says that is wrong. blatantly.

and to defend someones review because its their opinion... i guess that giving bioshock a 5.0 for not being on bluray or whatever is also a defendable position.

Dude, this one of the most desperate post I have ever had the honor of viewing. The occurance of the Holocoust is an opinion, really? So those facts were something that people mustered up. Those testimonies were fabricated. Dude get a life if you are going to use an example of such social weight please make a responsible argument and not some half-retarded attempt at an analogy.

Whether R&C is any good is up to each individual to decide. If you like you like it, if you don't you don't. This ignorance about opinions being wrong....pitiful. Lets try a real analogy k? If a shirt is blue, for me to say its blue is a fact. Now if I think its nice, now thats opinion. An opinion that if you don't agree with you know what you can do????? Nothing, just like right now, talk all you want but because Gamespot doesn't agree with everyone else doesn't make them weird or ignorant.

Because if so all those people who say your weird at school for liking games would be right, right?

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#75 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]

So we were told that the PS3 was going to be the system that would rival any other system to date, whose games were supposed to revolutionize gaming, basically we were to told we wouldn't believe our eyes when we got our hands on it. I even started to believe this when the price was announced. I mean with something that expensive it had to have something amazing under the hood. So with that all in mind, it is plausible to think that GS is also expecting these promises to be a reality and therefore judge the PS3 games with the same standard Sony claimed the PS3 to be.

What do you think? Is this plausible?

Silenthps

this would be true if the 360/PS3 multiplats weren't relatively rated the same.

Oblivion on PS3 was a etter game (graphically too) on PS3 but it got lower rating... i htink TC might be coming onto something, because R&C is an AMAZING game, and GS gave it 7.5?? while the average at every other site is 9.0

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#76 6matt6
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have the game and R&C is way better then the 7.5 score period GS negative was identity crisis wtf!?!?!? and story r&C always been that way.

any way i can see why cows think GS is bias because halo 3 sure is not a 9.5 game more of a8.9 game with its linear game play and its LAME STORY(i weather watch a steven seagal movie then see halo trash story on the big screen). oooooooooooooo the flood I'm so frighten so how many times can you kill an alien and run around on small maps playing slayer. ooooo we got forge...forge=red headed step child to half life mods and unreal tourney

heck the end was garbage all you see is master chief 117 some passport looking thing

plus why they have to kill sgt major?

i guess halo for the simple minded no wonder a lot kids8 and up play it regardless of the M rating

all GS does is judge xbox360 gamesof the good and judge ps3 gamesof the bad

optimistic for xbox360 andpessimistic for ps3

because we all know if halo got a 7.5 you be sending death threats and threaten to hang yourselves if they don't change it.

llidianStormage

you failed to make a valid point in that whole rant. :|

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#77 jessie5788
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ok so you think that the ps3 scores or lower because of the way sony hyped there consoles back in 05. this is a dumb reason, i'm sorry. Was sony suppose to to say this is just like the 360 no you hype the hell out of your console. I fine with the games they look impressive to me. when i seen eye of judgement i was pleased with what the ps3 could do. screw GS score, look at overall scores, play the demo or rent the game to see if you really want it.
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#78 bobcheeseball
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Actually Ps3 just has no good exclusives apart from MGS 4 Sony got overly confident and now paying the price for it.
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#79 nicenator
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Actually Ps3 just has no good exclusives apart from MGS 4 Sony got overly confident and now paying the price for it.bobcheeseball

Actually, by GS standards, it has at least2 good exclusive, and 6 great ones.

And my big beef is not with the score. My problem is quite simply that compared to most reviews, this seems to be very half-assed and contradictory. It seems as though the reviewer is the one with the identity crisis, not knowing if he thinks it is a good game or not.

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#80 heaven_in_hell
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game flops here because cows hype it too much now say that every ps3 game will get a 1/10 then it wont happen
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#81 heaven_in_hell
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game flops here because cows hype it too much now say that every ps3 game will get a 1/10 then it wont happen