REAL TALK: Current gen consoles were never up to par. It's pee see or nothing.

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#1  Edited By rektmuhface
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On PC I can get 1080p @60fps with all the multiplats. No, I didn't have to spend $1k just to get there...it's simple really, a GTX 970 is all it takes.

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#2 Cloud_imperium
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Agreed. Hell GTX750 can outperform current Consoles as well.

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#3 aroxx_ab
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Goodluck on 60 fps on console-ports locked at 30fps

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#4 Suppaman100
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Dynamic vs static systems.

No sh*t a custom PC of today will win from a 2 year old 350 dollar system, LOL.

Anyway can't go PC only this gen or you'll miss the best games, like every gen.

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#5 MonsieurX
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You can buy a GTX 970 and simply run games with it?

wow

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#6 vvulturas
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Real talk: No shit. How many more times is this argument going to be made in SW?

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#7 Heil68
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Except for exclusives, including exclusive GOTY's and exclusive 10/10 games PC never gets.

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#8 DaVillain  Moderator
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@rektmuhface said:

On PC I can get 1080p @60fps with all the multiplats. No, I didn't have to spend $1k just to get there...it's simple really, a GTX 970 is all it takes.

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#9  Edited By NFJSupreme
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Consoles have their pros

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#10 Legend002
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@rektmuhface said:

On PC I can get 1080p @60fps with all the multiplats. No, I didn't have to spend $1k just to get there...it's simple really, a GTX 970 is all it takes.

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#11  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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You do know that the PS4/Xbox One came out in 2013 and cost $399 and $499 retail right? They aren't built for the hardcore gamer/graphic whore. They never were. They target the masses that don't care about resolution and framerate and just want to play the latest AAA games they see on TV.

It's completely different and it's pure ignorance or straight up stupidity to not understand the differences of the platforms and what they are trying to accomplish.

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#12 tushar172787
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nah, just look at teh console optimization, our consoles will be playing games better in 5 years!! just look at the king of optimization, naughty gods, who got the true open-world game with deflating ricebags at true 1080p @60fps! suck on that hermits!

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#13 tushar172787
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@Cloud_imperium said:

Agreed. Hell GTX750 can outperform current Consoles as well.

you mean *Ti?

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@Suppaman100 said:

Dynamic vs static systems.

No sh*t a custom PC of today will win from a 2 year old 350 dollar system, LOL.

Anyway can't go PC only this gen or you'll miss the best games, like every gen.

you'll miss out on less games than any one console...

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#15 Flyincloud1116
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I'm glad this wasn't Fake Talk, and thanks for tell us something that hasn't been said a millions time.

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#16 tushar172787
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and as someone pointed out a GTX 970 will cost you as much as the consoles themselves...

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#17 Suppaman100
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@tushar172787 said:
@Suppaman100 said:

Dynamic vs static systems.

No sh*t a custom PC of today will win from a 2 year old 350 dollar system, LOL.

Anyway can't go PC only this gen or you'll miss the best games, like every gen.

you'll miss out on less games than any one console...

The only thing console only gamers will miss are sh*tty steam indies.

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#18 Juub1990
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@rektmuhface said:

On PC I can get 1080p @60fps with all the multiplats. No, I didn't have to spend $1k just to get there...it's simple really, a GTX 970 is all it takes.

To be fair the 970 alone is almost the price of a console.

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#19 raugutcon
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@Wasdie said:

You do know that the PS4/Xbox One came out in 2013 and cost $399 and $499 retail right? They aren't built for the hardcore gamer/graphic whore. They never were. They target the masses that don't care about resolution and framerate and just want to play the latest AAA games they see on TV.

It's completely different and it's pure ignorance or straight up stupidity to not understand the differences of the platforms and what they are trying to accomplish.

So stupid defines the OP ? -----> I concur !

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#20 Cloud_imperium
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@tushar172787 said:
@Cloud_imperium said:

Agreed. Hell GTX750 can outperform current Consoles as well.

you mean *Ti?

750Ti yes.

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#21 rektmuhface
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@tushar172787 said:

and as someone pointed out a GTX 970 will cost you as much as the consoles themselves...

Hmmm...looking at amazon they are listed for $315

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@Suppaman100 said:
@tushar172787 said:
@Suppaman100 said:

Dynamic vs static systems.

No sh*t a custom PC of today will win from a 2 year old 350 dollar system, LOL.

Anyway can't go PC only this gen or you'll miss the best games, like every gen.

you'll miss out on less games than any one console...

The only thing console only gamers will miss are sh*tty steam indies.

1. You know that's simply untrue.

2. A PC only gamer would have only missed out on Bloodborne and a handful of Nintendo games so far.

Really man, when it comes to the "miss out on gaemz!!!" argument, the PC is the last platform you should be calling out.

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#23  Edited By GarGx1
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@Suppaman100 said:
@tushar172787 said:
@Suppaman100 said:

Dynamic vs static systems.

No sh*t a custom PC of today will win from a 2 year old 350 dollar system, LOL.

Anyway can't go PC only this gen or you'll miss the best games, like every gen.

you'll miss out on less games than any one console...

The only thing console only gamers will miss are sh*tty steam indies.

1. You know that's simply untrue.

2. A PC only gamer would have only missed out on Bloodborne and a handful of Nintendo games so far.

Really man, when it comes to the "miss out on gaemz!!!" argument, the PC is the last platform you should be calling out.

Those shitty indie really suck, just look at this pile of crap. Who'd want play any of these

Upcoming PC Games

(Thanks @Cloud_imperium)

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#24 Jereb31
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@GarGx1 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:
@Suppaman100 said:
@tushar172787 said:
@Suppaman100 said:

Dynamic vs static systems.

No sh*t a custom PC of today will win from a 2 year old 350 dollar system, LOL.

Anyway can't go PC only this gen or you'll miss the best games, like every gen.

you'll miss out on less games than any one console...

The only thing console only gamers will miss are sh*tty steam indies.

1. You know that's simply untrue.

2. A PC only gamer would have only missed out on Bloodborne and a handful of Nintendo games so far.

Really man, when it comes to the "miss out on gaemz!!!" argument, the PC is the last platform you should be calling out.

Those shitty indie really suck, just look at this pile of crap. Who'd want play any of these

Upcoming PC Games

(Thanks @Cloud_imperium)

Ha that's an awesome compilation.

Does the competition have a competing list?

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#25 Cloud_imperium
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@jereb31 said:

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@GarGx1 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:
@Suppaman100 said:
@tushar172787 said:

you'll miss out on less games than any one console...

The only thing console only gamers will miss are sh*tty steam indies.

1. You know that's simply untrue.

2. A PC only gamer would have only missed out on Bloodborne and a handful of Nintendo games so far.

Really man, when it comes to the "miss out on gaemz!!!" argument, the PC is the last platform you should be calling out.

Those shitty indie really suck, just look at this pile of crap. Who'd want play any of these

Upcoming PC Games

(Thanks @Cloud_imperium)

Ha that's an awesome compilation.

Does the competition have a competing list?

It's not even complete story. Some of the big games like Lineage Eternal and Serious Sam 4 are missing from the list. There are too many games to remember and quite a few were announced after this list was made as well. So, there is always something interesting going on for PC.

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#26 oflow
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you should buy every console owner a pc for Christmas.

Master Race Claus hes coming TO SAVE US!!11!!

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#28  Edited By intotheminx
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@Suppaman100: Sadly, some of those shitty indie games end up being more fun than AAA games. Also, the only big exclusive is Bloodborne. Outside of that PC gets everything. You miss out on more by not having a PC than console.

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#29 deactivated-5b0367b217732
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The 970 was probably not the best choice for this thread. It's not exactly a cheap GPU (compared to a console, that is).

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#30  Edited By jj-josh
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@Legend002 said:
@rektmuhface said:

On PC I can get 1080p @60fps with all the multiplats. No, I didn't have to spend $1k just to get there...it's simple really, a GTX 970 is all it takes.

that face lmaooo

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#31 Bigboi500
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Real talk on a gaming forum that's all about everything except reality. Try that "real talk" with average people on the street and see where that gets you. You know, the folks a lot of you guys look down on as "stupid casuals" and such?

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#32  Edited By commander
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@rektmuhface said:

On PC I can get 1080p @60fps with all the multiplats. No, I didn't have to spend $1k just to get there...it's simple really, a GTX 970 is all it takes.

the gtx 970 is only a videocard and it's the same price as a console.

it might not take 1k, but it won't be that far off lol

Not to mention, it's a pc...

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#33 A-new-Guardian
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And outside in the real world nobody really cares about this and just play games.

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#34 adamosmaki
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it doesnt even take a 970. All it takes its a $200 r9 380

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#35 -God-
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@a-new-guardian said:

And outside in the real world nobody really cares about this and just play games.

Sames goes for 99% of SW threads, you just seem extra salty for pro-PC ones.

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#36 A-new-Guardian
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@-God-: sure even though in other threads I admitted PC is superior but okay have it your way lol.

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#37  Edited By luckylucious
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@a-new-guardian said:

And outside in the real world nobody really cares about this and just play games.

facts

most people just want to plug and play tbh. I see PC elitists talk about this all the time, its getting old lol.

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#38 tushar172787
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@yourdeadgrandpa said:
@Juub1990 said:
@rektmuhface said:

On PC I can get 1080p @60fps with all the multiplats. No, I didn't have to spend $1k just to get there...it's simple really, a GTX 970 is all it takes.

To be fair the 970 alone is almost the price of a console.

@tushar172787 said:

and as someone pointed out a GTX 970 will cost you as much as the consoles themselves...

You can easily find a 970GTX at below 280$ price, also free Assassin’s Creed Syndicate or Rainbow Six Siege.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/291560857366?rmvSB=true

i mean to say *almost but oh well..

i don't know the US price list for the card and X1 but in my country it is approx 20-30$

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#39  Edited By lundy86_4
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No shit?

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#40 tushar172787
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@GarGx1 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:
@Suppaman100 said:
@tushar172787 said:
@Suppaman100 said:

Dynamic vs static systems.

No sh*t a custom PC of today will win from a 2 year old 350 dollar system, LOL.

Anyway can't go PC only this gen or you'll miss the best games, like every gen.

you'll miss out on less games than any one console...

The only thing console only gamers will miss are sh*tty steam indies.

1. You know that's simply untrue.

2. A PC only gamer would have only missed out on Bloodborne and a handful of Nintendo games so far.

Really man, when it comes to the "miss out on gaemz!!!" argument, the PC is the last platform you should be calling out.

Those shitty indie really suck, just look at this pile of crap. Who'd want play any of these

Upcoming PC Games

(Thanks @Cloud_imperium)

how come you guys always own suppaman before i do? :(

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#41  Edited By sovkhan
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And where the hell did you stick your awesome GTX 970??? Lemme guess...

And you still have the guts to compare it to a whole system, that cost as much as your unplugged GC???

While we are at it, why not compare apples and oranges, sounds just about right!!! /ponders

Edit : before arguing, regular price in UE is 330€, please advice.

@tushar172787

GTX 970 for 20 bucks??? Kiddin??? No!!!!

Where the hell is your country, i'm on my way!!!!

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#42 Suppaman100
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@tushar172787 said:
@GarGx1 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:
@Suppaman100 said:
@tushar172787 said:

you'll miss out on less games than any one console...

The only thing console only gamers will miss are sh*tty steam indies.

1. You know that's simply untrue.

2. A PC only gamer would have only missed out on Bloodborne and a handful of Nintendo games so far.

Really man, when it comes to the "miss out on gaemz!!!" argument, the PC is the last platform you should be calling out.

Those shitty indie really suck, just look at this pile of crap. Who'd want play any of these

Upcoming PC Games

(Thanks @Cloud_imperium)

how come you guys always own suppaman before i do? :(

Ownage, LOL, that list is pathetic. Mmo's, rts games and games that will inevitably come to console.

Pathetic, nothing on that list comes close to Blooborne.

But hey if you love MMO's, rts's and facebook games, PC is the platform for you.

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#43  Edited By tushar172787
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@sovkhan said:

And where the hell did you stick your awesome GTX 970??? Lemme guess...

And you still have the guts to compare it to a whole system, that cost as much as your unplugged GC???

While we are at it, why not compare apples and oranges, sounds just about right!!! /ponders

Edit : before arguing, regular price in UE is 330€, please advice.

@tushar172787

GTX 970 for 20 bucks??? Kiddin??? No!!!!

Where the hell is your country, i'm on my way!!!!

i meant a 20$-30$ difference, my bad lol

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#44 tushar172787
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@Suppaman100 said:
@tushar172787 said:
@GarGx1 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:
@Suppaman100 said:

The only thing console only gamers will miss are sh*tty steam indies.

1. You know that's simply untrue.

2. A PC only gamer would have only missed out on Bloodborne and a handful of Nintendo games so far.

Really man, when it comes to the "miss out on gaemz!!!" argument, the PC is the last platform you should be calling out.

Those shitty indie really suck, just look at this pile of crap. Who'd want play any of these

Upcoming PC Games

(Thanks @Cloud_imperium)

how come you guys always own suppaman before i do? :(

Ownage, LOL, that list is pathetic. Mmo's, rts games and games that will inevitably come to console.

Pathetic, nothing on that list comes close to Blooborne.

But hey if you love MMO's, rts's and facebook games, PC is the platform for you.

destroying yourself..

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@rektmuhface said:

On PC I can get 1080p @60fps with all the multiplats. No, I didn't have to spend $1k just to get there...it's simple really, a GTX 970 is all it takes.

Good for you... why don't you go and play it and stop posting sh** topics. That'd be awesome!

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#46  Edited By sovkhan
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@tushar172787

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Sending this airborne, on my way, too late mate!!!

Ready for some vodka and cheap GC cards :)

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#47 tushar172787
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@sovkhan said:

@tushar172787

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Sending this airborne, on my way, too late mate!!!

Ready for some vodka and cheap GC cards :)

get ready!!

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@Suppaman100 said:
@tushar172787 said:
@GarGx1 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:
@Suppaman100 said:

The only thing console only gamers will miss are sh*tty steam indies.

1. You know that's simply untrue.

2. A PC only gamer would have only missed out on Bloodborne and a handful of Nintendo games so far.

Really man, when it comes to the "miss out on gaemz!!!" argument, the PC is the last platform you should be calling out.

Those shitty indie really suck, just look at this pile of crap. Who'd want play any of these

Upcoming PC Games

(Thanks @Cloud_imperium)

how come you guys always own suppaman before i do? :(

Ownage, LOL, that list is pathetic. Mmo's, rts games and games that will inevitably come to console.

Pathetic, nothing on that list comes close to Blooborne.

But hey if you love MMO's, rts's and facebook games, PC is the platform for you.

Is that all you have? Do you really have absolutely nothing to counter at all?

You could perhaps try a little.

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#49 emgesp
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Build me a PC for $349.99 that can run most games at 1080p 60fps with at least medium graphical settings.


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#50 tushar172787
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@GarGx1 said:
@Suppaman100 said:
@tushar172787 said:
@GarGx1 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:

1. You know that's simply untrue.

2. A PC only gamer would have only missed out on Bloodborne and a handful of Nintendo games so far.

Really man, when it comes to the "miss out on gaemz!!!" argument, the PC is the last platform you should be calling out.

Those shitty indie really suck, just look at this pile of crap. Who'd want play any of these

Upcoming PC Games

(Thanks @Cloud_imperium)

how come you guys always own suppaman before i do? :(

Ownage, LOL, that list is pathetic. Mmo's, rts games and games that will inevitably come to console.

Pathetic, nothing on that list comes close to Blooborne.

But hey if you love MMO's, rts's and facebook games, PC is the platform for you.

Is that all you have? Do you really have absolutely nothing to counter at all?

You could perhaps try a little.

he's not even fun to argue anymore...