Realistically, which motion controller has the better likelyhood of success?

Im very Skeptical about both, but im more skeptical about Natal. Im not questioning wether or not itll be marketed or be supported well, I question how people will react to it. Is the average gamer the kind of person taht wants to flayel about in front of there TV? or maybe MS isnt going for the average gamer, but for the main Wii gamer that uses it for fitness and waving around like a jackass. Although, I think it has the most potential to be awesome. And if it catches fire, could change alot of things about gaming and could really sky rocket 360 sales. I do think Sonys controller is the more practical apporach, but the least potential compared to Natal. But I think it could be the easier sell to gamers.

Natal because it already has alot of support from devs and will be marketed like crazyby M$.

Natal because it already has alot of support from devs and will be marketed like crazyby M$.

BURSTIIIFIRE

and what? ARC dosent have devs? weve heard quit a few.

Both will bomb hard.

Sales: Natal, as Microsoft will market the ****** out of it.

Games: Arc, as it has already shown the potential to integrate motion controls in core gaming games, and has sub-mm accuracy.

Both will bomb hard.

nhh18

Natal won't bomb. Arc will.......

Only time will tell, but I hope it doesnt become a standard in the future. Like every single game needs Natal or Arc to play... That would piss me off. There is a reason I got a 360 and ps3...and not a wii

natal simply because its already had better advertising plus its just a cold fact, there are more 360 owners out there then PS3 owners, so while I doubt either will be a success I think natal will have a slight sales advantage over the Arc for that simple fact.

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Both will bomb hard.

KaoSXFACTOR

Natal won't bomb. Arc will.......

Natal will have great sales, but it will probably suffer from lag that we've seen in all the demonstrations, assuming it isn't fixed by the time it launches. I think the biggest problem with the Arc will be that it was delayed. If they released it in the Spring like they first planned, it might've done well. Now, they have to directly compete with Natal with both having Fall launches. Since it's so similar to the Wii motion controls, people will probably want to get Natal, just because of the hype and the fact that it's different.

Obviously natal. I don't know what sony is trying to do with the arc. They are not appealing to the casual at all with this thing.

I believe a hybrid between Natal and the "arc"/ Wiimote would be the best combo.

sonys what ever you call it

devs have already stated its impossible to work with because of its lag time

If the WII captured the audience because of the way they did motion control on advertisements, and Natal going around saying "YOU ARE THE CONTROLLER" and "USE YOUR BODY TO MOVE AROUND" it's gonna sell well :D

Well I've read about lag on Natal, also the lack of an actual controller is a little weird. The Sony "arc" while it has already proven itself as the best motion control I just can't see it doing that well. I think if anything Sony will focus more on 3D then their arc controller.

Probably Natal but niether one of them will be a huge success.

Arc because I think it will work well in games that usually use a traditional controller. Like turn the PS3 into a HD Wii :?

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Natal because it already has alot of support from devs and will be marketed like crazyby M$.

XboximusPrime

and what? ARC dosent have devs? weve heard quit a few.

Microsoft also stated the support, launch and marketting will be likened toa "new console launch"

oh and don't forget it will be for Windows Based PCs.

so they have a bigger exposure already then the Arc.

Xbox360 larger install base and on Windows.

sonys what ever you call it

devs have already stated its impossible to work with because of its lag time

nofriekinlemons

which one Natal?

If it is impossible to work with then there would be no games at launch then.

Sales: Natal, as Microsoft will market the ****** out of it.

Games: Arc, as it has already shown the potential to integrate motion controls in core gaming games, and has sub-mm accuracy.

dercoo

I think Natal will be a huge success. Arc is a defferent story.

Alot has to do with the prices, and game support. If the ball on the stick is reasonably priced it will probably do ok. Since it looks like a glorified Wiimote it really should cost no more than $50. Same goes for Natal, if it is in the $100 range it will probably do just fine. More than that and people will stay away, unless they come out with some serious game support.

Natal for minor interactions with regular full priced games and the PS stick thing for games that are made specifically for it. Imo of course.

Natal... because it will have the biggest marketing, the most dev's and of course those....

Rare gems. :P

Both have a very good chance of success and both will likely come out of the box next gen (or some variant). Even the eyetoy was a moderate success story (and that was without third party support and only a handful of IPSs).

Natal will sell more, but Arc looks better from what I've seen.

It would be fun to use those controllers in a rpg like oblivion.Jack-o-Thompson

Of the two...Natal. They will market the hell out of it plus I think they will give it a decent price. Arc looks like it will be expensive because you need a camera and two wands. Also why would people pick the PS3 motion control over the Wii's when they are basically the same?

I think NATAL is a higher risk, higher reward project that could potentially be the next thing for casual gamers but will likely flop hard for traditional games. The arc follows a more proven paradigm and likely will fit better with more traditional games and will help sony pick up 3rd party support with lots more cross platform games but have a less flashy showy but be more dependable. I can't see either as bigging too big for MS or Sony and will likely be more optional control schemes as neither company wants to alienate their install base.

we'll have to see come launch, until i see a good lineup of games and not just some devs talking about how they might like to work with them, i really don't know which will succeed.

If both turn out to be eyetoy+wiimote and eyetoy 2 then they will both be the biggest fails of the gen, after they've had all this hype behind them. i will see come launch, but right now they could be either be good or fail.

we'll have to see come launch, until i see a good lineup of games and not just some devs talking about how they might like to work with them, i really don't know which will succeed. If both turn out to be eyetoy+wiimote and eyetoy 2 then they will both be the biggest fails of the gen, after they've had all this hype behind them. i will see come launch right now they could be good or fail.Mckenna1845

Natal will probably sell more initially than Arc, and maybe overall, but I think Arc is the superior solution and ultimately Natal is more for casuals.

[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"]we'll have to see come launch, until i see a good lineup of games and not just some devs talking about how they might like to work with them, i really don't know which will succeed. If both turn out to be eyetoy+wiimote and eyetoy 2 then they will both be the biggest fails of the gen, after they've had all this hype behind them. i will see come launch right now they could be good or fail.surrealnumber5

then they would become the biggest fails of the gen.

PS3 Arc because it appeals to girls. ;)

ARCbecause moregames that hardcore gamers playwill use it

natal just those casual games you get from xboxlive

I can't see natal working for something like halo

I don't understand how some of you may think Arc or whatever it's called will fail since Wii's controller is a success , I mean Arc is wii mote at its finest you cant' deny it (talking about the hardware not its interactions, which may or may not be a success).

Now Natal is simply obnoxious , where on earth one do things without the use of any tool?I mean I wanna hold something like a gun , a wheel , a racquet I WANT.Making me hold nothing isn't a favor and it's completely far from reality unless we're talking about fighting games , case which natal still gotta prove the lack of lag.