Reason Why Some Xbox 360's are Breaking

The launch consoles were not made with the highest quality and had faulty drives (you know it is launch console because it advertises Call of Duty 2 on the back). The newer consoles with Gears of War advertised on the back of the boxes are improved in all aspects (compared mine to my friends launch console). Mines runs quiter and put out less heat in the same room, running the same amount of time both in the vertical position in a Gears system link party too.

Another reason why Xbox 360s are breaking is the Nyko Intercooler. For those of you not familliar of how it runs, you plug the 360 power supply into the intercooler and you plug the intercooler into the back of the Xbox 360. This drains power from the Xbox 360 which over time kills the console because certain parts are not getting the proper power. They also melted to the back of the Xbox 360 and burned out the port where you plug the power supply into. Sadly, at least 500,000 Nyko Intercoolers have been sold.

Obviously some systems just have their own problems (dust or poor manufacturing), but consoles that have died from those freak accident problems are very limited. If you buy a console with Gears of War advertised on the back to prove its newly manufactured and keep it well ventilated, you will not have a probelm.

Things like this happen when you try to **** consumers in every market you try to controlTiefster

Wait...what? Are we talking about the same subject? Do you even know what this thread is about? How does that have anything to do with the topic?

Wait, so if it has pics of CoD on the back. Then it's a launch 360?zerooslo7990

Things like this happen when you try to **** consumers in every market you try to controlTiefster

Vista anyone?  

Makes sense to me. I couldn't understand how people were saying the 360s overheat and die out like crazy. Mine has had no problems and puts out less heat than my Wii.Hippostrike

That's good for you but unfortunately everyone out there isn't assured they'll get your 360. 

So how do you explain the high rate of recidivism? Some people have to go through the replacement process several times. CyanX73

People plugging their repaired 360 back into the same surge protector, putting it in the same unventilated cubby, using the same intercooler...for the most part its either "I've gone through 3 Xboxs or Mines never had a problem"

As for the thing I said about Call of Duty 2 and Gears of War, the more accurate way to check is on the back of the Xbox, but I know many people are going out to buy Xbox 360s soon for their upcoming big games and my advice was just to check the back of their box before checking out.

Also, some of them are getting messed up because the power supply has built in surge protection and people are plugging them into surge protectors. :wink:cecx

So how do you explain the high rate of recidivism? Some people have to go through the replacement process several times. CyanX73

I still thinks its funny that the PS3 runs cooler with an internal power supply, rather than an external one like what the 360 has.

[QUOTE="cecx"]Also, some of them are getting messed up because the power supply has built in surge protection and people are plugging them into surge protectors. :wink:htekemerald

it doesnt do anything. My friends 360 broke down on him 2 weeks ago and he asked if that did anything and the rep said no. i also remeber reading in the owners manual about hooking it up and it said something like make sure your wall plpug or power strip is the appropriate voltage; Implyng that it is okay to plug your 360 into a surge portector. no where in the manual does it tell you not to plug it into a surge protector. not even in teh Elite manuals.

[QUOTE="cecx"]Also, some of them are getting messed up because the power supply has built in surge protection and people are plugging them into surge protectors. :wink:htekemerald

I'm guessing you plugged your 360 into a surge protector/power strip rather than straight into the wall and thats why your Xbox got the red lights

[QUOTE="htekemerald"][QUOTE="cecx"]Also, some of them are getting messed up because the power supply has built in surge protection and people are plugging them into surge protectors. :wink:shadow8585

I'm guessing you plugged your 360 into a surge protector/power strip rather than straight into the wall and thats why your Xbox got the red lights

see my previous post. it doesnt do anything. you can force the red lights by clicking the strip on and ff real fast, but it doesnt brick your system. saw it on youtube, but i wouldnt do it myself. 

It has been proven on websites such as xbox-scene.com that overtime, the lack of power that the Xbox gets from getting plugged into a surge protector will kill off some of the parts...shadow8585

if the 360 isnt getting enough power to any of its parts, you get 4 red lights. it plain wont turn on. it happned to me when i woke up in the morning and didnt realize we were having a brown out. i had a small heart attack. 

[QUOTE="CyanX73"]So how do you explain the high rate of recidivism? Some people have to go through the replacement process several times. htekemerald

I'll be so happy when the good games are out so stupid comments like ^^^ will no longer show up.  

[QUOTE="shadow8585"]It has been proven on websites such as xbox-scene.com that overtime, the lack of power that the Xbox gets from getting plugged into a surge protector will kill off some of the parts...jigglebilly1983

if the 360 isnt getting enough power to any of its parts, you get 4 red lights. it plain wont turn on. it happned to me when i woke up in the morning and didnt realize we were having a brown out. i had a small heart attack.

[QUOTE="htekemerald"][QUOTE="CyanX73"]So how do you explain the high rate of recidivism? Some people have to go through the replacement process several times. CyanX73

I'll be so happy when the good games are out so stupid comments like ^^^ will no longer show up.

Or MS is to repairs as Sony is to  Intelligent PR

Or MS is to repairs as Jack Thompson is to intelligence

[QUOTE="Tiefster"]Things like this happen when you try to **** consumers in every market you try to controlTaCoDuDe

Wait...what? Are we talking about the same subject? Do you even know what this thread is about? How does that have anything to do with the topic?

[QUOTE="CyanX73"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"][QUOTE="CyanX73"]So how do you explain the high rate of recidivism? Some people have to go through the replacement process several times. htekemerald

 I like the last two :).

I'll be so happy when the good games are out so stupid comments like ^^^ will no longer show up.

Or MS is to repairs as Sony is to Intelligent PR

Or MS is to repairs as Jack Thompson is to intelligence

The launch consoles were not made with the highest quality and had faulty drives (you know it is launch console because it advertises Call of Duty 2 on the back). The newer consoles with Gears of War advertised on the back of the boxes are improved in all aspects (compared mine to my friends launch console). Mines runs quiter and put out less heat in the same room, running the same amount of time both in the vertical position in a Gears system link party too.

Another reason why Xbox 360s are breaking is the Nyko Intercooler. For those of you not familliar of how it runs, you plug the 360 power supply into the intercooler and you plug the intercooler into the back of the Xbox 360. This drains power from the Xbox 360 which over time kills the console because certain parts are not getting the proper power. They also melted to the back of the Xbox 360 and burned out the port where you plug the power supply into. Sadly, at least 500,000 Nyko Intercoolers have been sold.

Obviously some systems just have their own problems (dust or poor manufacturing), but consoles that have died from those freak accident problems are very limited. If you buy a console with Gears of War advertised on the back to prove its newly manufactured and keep it well ventilated, you will not have a probelm.

shadow8585

The percentages are so high that I disagree with any interpretation that doesn't assume widespread design failures that are inherent in nearly every Xbox 360 or the Xbox 360 being prone to specific defects.

I've read the Nyko Intercooler is, in fact, innoculous and the rumors of it affecting death are essentially fabricated.

The Xbox 360 Elite model still has the same drives, the same GPU, the same CPU, the same heatsinks....the same everything. They haven't fixed launch issues.

"Freak accident problems." That is an outright lie and a fabrication. I found three threads today filled with people claiming their 2nd or fourth console. Don't give me that nonsense. "Freak accident!" These accidents happen on a ridiculous basis, and there must be a substantial reason behind that. 

Elites are breaking with 3 rings of death. Your point fails /threadNobuoMusicMaker

Precisely. I understand you like Microsoft and want to believe their PR but honestly be a realist about this thing in particular. 

Elites are breaking with 3 rings of death.  Your point fails /threadNobuoMusicMaker

Like I stated, some probelms are just unavoidable as no console is 100% break-proof, but the failure rate is considerably lessened on an Elite than on a normal console, you phail

[QUOTE="shadow8585"]

The launch consoles were not made with the highest quality and had faulty drives (you know it is launch console because it advertises Call of Duty 2 on the back). The newer consoles with Gears of War advertised on the back of the boxes are improved in all aspects (compared mine to my friends launch console). Mines runs quiter and put out less heat in the same room, running the same amount of time both in the vertical position in a Gears system link party too.

Another reason why Xbox 360s are breaking is the Nyko Intercooler. For those of you not familliar of how it runs, you plug the 360 power supply into the intercooler and you plug the intercooler into the back of the Xbox 360. This drains power from the Xbox 360 which over time kills the console because certain parts are not getting the proper power. They also melted to the back of the Xbox 360 and burned out the port where you plug the power supply into. Sadly, at least 500,000 Nyko Intercoolers have been sold.

Obviously some systems just have their own problems (dust or poor manufacturing), but consoles that have died from those freak accident problems are very limited. If you buy a console with Gears of War advertised on the back to prove its newly manufactured and keep it well ventilated, you will not have a probelm.

Redfingers

The percentages are so high that I disagree with any interpretation that doesn't assume widespread design failures that are inherent in nearly every Xbox 360 or the Xbox 360 being prone to specific defects.

I've read the Nyko Intercooler is, in fact, innoculous and the rumors of it affecting death are essentially fabricated.

The Xbox 360 Elite model still has the same drives, the same GPU, the same CPU, the same heatsinks....the same everything. They haven't fixed launch issues.

"Freak accident problems." That is an outright lie and a fabrication. I found three threads today filled with people claiming their 2nd or fourth console. Don't give me that nonsense. "Freak accident!" These accidents happen on a ridiculous basis, and there must be a substantial reason behind that. 

The reason behind that is using surge protectors, Nyko Intercoolers and lack of ventilation. That makes up 95% of the console break downs. The other 5% is freak accidents that can't be avoided due to the law of probability (not ever console has a 100% success rate...). 

 POINT OF THREAD: IF EVERY XBOX 360 OWNER DID NOT USE A NYKO INTERCOOLER, DID NOT PLUG INTO A SURGE PROTECTOR AND KEPT THEIR SYSTEM AND POWER BRICK WELL VENTILATED, THE FAILURE RATE WOULD BE A LOT LOWER. MANY OF THE PROBLEMS ARE BROUGHT ON THE CUSTOMERS BY THEIR OWN LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. THEY TREAT THIS NEXT GEN SYSTEM LIKE IT IS A GAMECUBE OR SOMETHING THAT DID NOT REQUIRE THE SLIGHTEST CARE OR CONSIDERATION... 

blaming it on a fan is about the lamest excuse I have ever seen.  a fan uses next to no power, you could run the intercooler of the batteries in the controller no probelm.

Also, some of them are getting messed up because the power supply has built in surge protection and people are plugging them into surge protectors. :wink:cecx

then why don't pcs pluged into surge protectors break too?

[QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"]

[QUOTE="Tiefster"]Things like this happen when you try to **** consumers in every market you try to controlTiefster

Wait...what? Are we talking about the same subject? Do you even know what this thread is about? How does that have anything to do with the topic?

explain why the xbox didn't break when intel and nvida held the designs but once m$ buys the design for the 360 it all turns to custard?  why don't pcs break as often as x360s?  why do pc components come with 3 years standard warrenty on most components and 5 years on hard drive and lifetime on many ram?

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Elites are breaking with 3 rings of death.  Your point fails /threadshadow8585

Like I stated, some probelms are just unavoidable as no console is 100% break-proof, but the failure rate is considerably lessened on an Elite than on a normal console, you phail

why is it no console last gen had overheating problems?  maybe m$ just dons't know how to put a real heatsink in, its gpu is cooled but a heatsink off a x30o and its fans come from a laptop, make you think there is some serious design flaw.

2 words, "Rushed console"squallff8_fan

I hate Ya Boy and every Bay rapper like him. All they do is steal the spotlight from the good Bay area rappers like Lyrics Born, Zion I, and Blackalicious.

[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]2 words, "Rushed console"Plug_One

I hate Ya Boy and every Bay rapper like him. All they do is steal the spotlight from the good Bay area rappers like Lyrics Born, Zion I, and Blackalicious.

[QUOTE="Plug_One"]

[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]2 words, "Rushed console"Kook18

I hate Ya Boy and every Bay rapper like him. All they do is steal the spotlight from the good Bay area rappers like Lyrics Born, Zion I, and Blackalicious.

Just bringing up my opinion on said rapper. My apologies for going off topic. 

[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]2 words, "Rushed console"Plug_One

I hate Ya Boy and every Bay rapper like him. All they do is steal the spotlight from the good Bay area rappers like Lyrics Born, Zion I, and Blackalicious.

LOL well u may hate him but I dig his music. Anyways isnt this about xbox 360? lol.

2 words, "Rushed console"squallff8_fan

I still thinks its funny that the PS3 runs cooler with an internal power supply, rather than an external one like what the 360 has.[QUOTE="htekemerald"][QUOTE="cecx"]Also, some of them are getting messed up because the power supply has built in surge protection and people are plugging them into surge protectors. :wink:jigglebilly1983

it doesnt do anything. My friends 360 broke down on him 2 weeks ago and he asked if that did anything and the rep said no. i also remeber reading in the owners manual about hooking it up and it said something like make sure your wall plpug or power strip is the appropriate voltage; Implyng that it is okay to plug your 360 into a surge portector. no where in the manual does it tell you not to plug it into a surge protector. not even in teh Elite manuals.

 Actually, my 360 recently got the 3 red lights of death and when I called MS, they even said that plugging the power brick into a surge protector could cause the problem and I did both, had the intercooler and plugged it into a surge protector.

Nice guess but it's more than just launch consoles.  It's a design problem with too much heat warping the board and popping the CPU/GPU out.  IT's been explained by professionals why exactly the X360 was not only poorly designed but also had poor materials.

What it would require is a complete redesign of the air flow to cool the X360.  MS obvously refuses to do this since if you look at the Elites they have opted to use thermal paste (glue) to keep the CPU/GPU pinned down so it doesn't move when the board warp.  People have their doubts of this actually working....it's more of a bandaid on a gashing wound.

They also say the 65nm chip will run the machine cooler but it's obvious that isn't coming out anytime soon.  Face it, this rumor of it being only launch consoles is a complete farce.  I purchased an X360 in April of last year......it died.  Was I just unlucky?