Reasons why 3D is a massive failure

[QUOTE="AfterBurnerZ"]

Every new tech has it's distractors. Heck, some people are still against telephones.

CwlHeddwyn

3D failed once before and can easily fail once again...why?

1. Some people become ill (headaches, nausea, etc) after watching 3D.
2. It can never become a standard because of above reason.
3. 3D does not have an attractive price right now (extra cost for 3D capable TV, 3D Blu-ray player/PS3 and especially the 3D glasses for EACH viewer).
4. The amount of 3D capable TV's that will be purchased for the next few years will be few due to price and need to upgrade.
5. There is little to no broadcasting in 3D except for a few channels that have just recently come out.

3D could just be another technology fad that will phase out in the next few years. While its nice, I would prefer to just keep 3D in the movie theaters.

3d tv will be awesome. it is only too early for those who are not early adopters. just 4 years ago yhou were one of those who said that bluray would fail. just 7 years ago many said that dd would not work now look at arcade and psn games not to mention netflix. 3d will catch on faster than hdtv. in just three years when the new box and wii come out and penetration is deeper you will realize that 3d is not a fad but it is here to stay like hdtv and bluray.

chicagodon

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Im starting to change my mind about 3D actually, its pretty cool if you test it and see it for yourself, i watched a few movies in 3D so far and each time make me more happy about watching them on 3D, i wont change to a 3D TV anytime soon tho, remember its optional

piercetruth34

That's the thing though. It's cool to look out. wow. I'm not saying it isn't. Will anyone buy it? It's not necessary. didn't people try this 30 years ago. It failed then. People don't care about 3d. why would it succeed now especially considering how the economy is. It's one of those fad things that people don't need. Yay I saw jaws in 3d. It was great. woot. I'm not buying it.

It's not something that people are willing to bet their wallets on.

*facepalm* People said the exact same thing about DvD's too. "They'll never replace VHS tapes, too expensive, just a fad." Riiiiiight.

People said this about HD as well. "Too expensive, too isolated, there won't be enough support." Riiiiiiight.

People said this about Blurays. "Too expensive blah, blah, blah." In a couple of years they'll replace DvD's. Well, more than a couple, but not that far off.

Stop speaking for everyone. It's mankind's evolutionarypriority to advance, advance, advance. 3D will take over. The something else will advance the core technology, and that will take over. Are you actually that naive to think that HD is the best we'll accomplish?

I have very poor vision in my right eye so it doesn't even work properly!

Snagal123

Because Sony is trying to sell new TVs that no one needs, that is why it is a massive failure. Starting to see a trend here for Sony.

rp108

Er what? Sure no one needs it, but that being a massive failure? Its not only Sony that do 3D televisions, you can already get stereoscopic televisions for a reasonable price, sure, its more expensive, but if I was in the market for a new television, I would certainly be looking at grabbing a 3D telly.

And what do you mean a trend for Sony? Are you referring to blu ray? Because from what I have seen and read Blu Ray has taken off faster than DVD did, so it must have some impact; and if you are not referring to blu ray, what are you referring to?

1. It's too soon. People just bought hdtv's

2. It's not necessary

3. The economy sucks. Why would anyone in their right mind buy a 3d tv?

4. It's an add on and another lame attempt at one which is really expensive.

5. There is no support at launch

What are these companies thinking? Another huge loss.

3d tv will be awesome. it is only too early for those who are not early adopters. just 4 years ago yhou were one of those who said that bluray would fail. just 7 years ago many said that dd would not work now look at arcade and psn games not to mention netflix. 3d will catch on faster than hdtv. in just three years when the new box and wii come out and penetration is deeper you will realize that 3d is not a fad but it is here to stay like hdtv and bluray.

3D failed once before and can easily fail once again...why?

1. Some people become ill (headaches, nausea, etc) after watching 3D.
2. It can never become a standard because of above reason.
3. 3D does not have an attractive price right now (extra cost for 3D capable TV, 3D Blu-ray player/PS3 and especially the 3D glasses for EACH viewer).
4. The amount of 3D capable TV's that will be purchased for the next few years will be few due to price and need to upgrade.
5. There is little to no broadcasting in 3D except for a few channels that have just recently come out.

3D could just be another technology fad that will phase out in the next few years. While its nice, I would prefer to just keep 3D in the movie theaters.

EXLINK

1. 3D televisions today use active shutter glasses, from my experience of a tech demo of a stereoscopic telly with active shutter glasses, I did not get a headache (Normally I will get a headache very easily, and any other kind of 3D i do get a headache). Admittedly that was a 10 minute demonstration, and so obviously it could be different when watching say a whole film

2. Yeah I will agree with that, its not everyones cup of tea, therefore I don't think it will become a standard for a good 6 years or so

3. I would say the price of the 3D televisions themselves is fairly reasonable for what you get at the moment (£1600 for a new sony bravia 40" LED 3D screen which comes with 2 pairs active shutter glasses); though the price of the 3D glasses is waaay too expensive (£145 a pair i believe)

4.I wouldn't know either way, but I can see it will take a fair while for that number to increase yeah

5. Very true. I fully agree with that, although 3D blu rays is going to be much more common over the coming months and years

I disagree with the last bit though, it will take a while to take a hold, and for it to be perfected and become cheaper, but i believe 3D is here to stay

it gives atleast 40% of the pop headaches.

I cannot see 3d films as they are right now they give me headaches, I have about 3 friends it does the same too, I know quite a few people online that it makes physically ill.
Till this is fixed I refuse to see 3d films, If a film is only in 3d I won't see it...and If they keep pushing it so hard and it becomes a required standard I will not be playing video games, Watching movies or tv...


P.S: that includes shutter glasses, red and blue glasses, and polarized glasses.

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Im starting to change my mind about 3D actually, its pretty cool if you test it and see it for yourself, i watched a few movies in 3D so far and each time make me more happy about watching them on 3D, i wont change to a 3D TV anytime soon tho, remember its optional

piercetruth34

That's the thing though. It's cool to look out. wow. I'm not saying it isn't. Will anyone buy it? It's not necessary. didn't people try this 30 years ago. It failed then. People don't care about 3d. why would it succeed now especially considering how the economy is. It's one of those fad things that people don't need. Yay I saw jaws in 3d. It was great. woot. I'm not buying it.

It's not something that people are willing to bet their wallets on.

You could say the same thing about HD yet people went out and bought HDTV's and consoles, they aren't needed they just make it look nice and they are expensive during economic troubles. And as for comparing it to the tech they had 30 years ago :| thats as bad as when people compared the Wii to the virtual boy...

I have about 3 friends it does the same too, I know quite a few people online that it makes physically ill.WilliamRLBaker

If i gotta wear those stupid 3D glasses.Im just gonna wear them everywhere i go.

If it was introduced with sony's next gen consoles, it might have done better, like blu ray.

the super bowl will move 3d tv and help excellerate 3d's adoption.

[QUOTE="piercetruth34"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Im starting to change my mind about 3D actually, its pretty cool if you test it and see it for yourself, i watched a few movies in 3D so far and each time make me more happy about watching them on 3D, i wont change to a 3D TV anytime soon tho, remember its optional

Khadaj32

That's the thing though. It's cool to look out. wow. I'm not saying it isn't. Will anyone buy it? It's not necessary. didn't people try this 30 years ago. It failed then. People don't care about 3d. why would it succeed now especially considering how the economy is. It's one of those fad things that people don't need. Yay I saw jaws in 3d. It was great. woot. I'm not buying it.

It's not something that people are willing to bet their wallets on.

*facepalm* People said the exact same thing about DvD's too. "They'll never replace VHS tapes, too expensive, just a fad." Riiiiiight.

People said this about HD as well. "Too expensive, too isolated, there won't be enough support." Riiiiiiight.

People said this about Blurays. "Too expensive blah, blah, blah." In a couple of years they'll replace DvD's. Well, more than a couple, but not that far off.

Stop speaking for everyone. It's mankind's evolutionarypriority to advance, advance, advance. 3D will take over. The something else will advance the core technology, and that will take over. Are you actually that naive to think that HD is the best we'll accomplish?

The problem with 3d is that it needs too many external factors to make it work. Until they can create the effect without needing glasses it's going to be a niche part of the market.

For example:

Do they really expect me to watch the damn Superbowl in those stupid glasses? What about my guests? Am I supposed to supply every single person that comes to my Superbowl party, NBA finals or World Series game with a pair of glasses?

What about people that wear glasses already?

I gotta laugh at how people are falling for this nonsense. Advance my butt.There's a reason VR didn't take off. Nobody wanted to wear the stupid headgear. Contrary to what people believe it does NOT immerse you, it does the opposite.

2 - HD isn't necessary. Videogames aren't either 3- Thats no excuse to no try and make money 5 & 4- what are we taking about here? The PS3 patch or the DS? The patch is free and games will come regardless if it's at launch or not. I seriously doubt the 3DS is not going to have anything at launch. I'm not saying I want 3d gaming but it's hard to call it a failure when it hasn't really started yet. 3d gaming is not a bad idea at all. It's really taken off with the film industry and if it can draw in some of those people and bring in more money then theres no reason not to try.vashkey

The move to HDTVs is completely different than the move to 3DTVs. Plasmas/LCDs were needed because people want big TVs. It was very hard to go above 32'' or 36'' with a CRT because of the size issue. I still have a 32'' CRT and it is HUGE. LCD/Plasmas generally improved the aesthetics of your living room, and this is a big thing in terms of the WAF :). Not the same with 3DTVs, they look basically the same. So it's not a big jump like going from a CRT TV to a Plasma or LCD.

I really believe 3DTVs are not ready yet for mainstream acceptance. 3D gaming on the other hand I think it has more appeal, especially for the PC. Current-gen PCs are really powerfull and most games don't really take advantage of it. 3D gaming requires double the framerate so I really doubt current-gen consoles can pull it off with an acceptable performance. For a high-end PC it would be a breeze.

3d tv will be awesome. it is only too early for those who are not early adopters. just 4 years ago yhou were one of those who said that bluray would fail. just 7 years ago many said that dd would not work now look at arcade and psn games not to mention netflix. 3d will catch on faster than hdtv. in just three years when the new box and wii come out and penetration is deeper you will realize that 3d is not a fad but it is here to stay like hdtv and bluray.

[QUOTE="vashkey"]2 - HD isn't necessary. Videogames aren't either 3- Thats no excuse to no try and make money 5 & 4- what are we taking about here? The PS3 patch or the DS? The patch is free and games will come regardless if it's at launch or not. I seriously doubt the 3DS is not going to have anything at launch. I'm not saying I want 3d gaming but it's hard to call it a failure when it hasn't really started yet. 3d gaming is not a bad idea at all. It's really taken off with the film industry and if it can draw in some of those people and bring in more money then theres no reason not to try.nunovlopes

The move to HDTVs is completely different than the move to 3DTVs. Plasmas/LCDs were needed because people want big TVs. It was very hard to go above 32'' or 36'' with a CRT because of the size issue. I still have a 32'' CRT and it is HUGE. LCD/Plasmas generally improved the aesthetics of your living room, and this is a big thing in terms of the WAF :). Not the same with 3DTVs, they look basically the same. So it's not a big jump like going from a CRT TV to a Plasma or LCD.

I really believe 3DTVs are not ready yet for mainstream acceptance. 3D gaming on the other hand I think it has more appeal, especially for the PC. Current-gen PCs are really powerfull and most games don't really take advantage of it. 3D gaming requires double the framerate so I really doubt current-gen consoles can pull it off with an acceptable performance. For a high-end PC it would be a breeze.

[QUOTE="vashkey"]2 - HD isn't necessary. Videogames aren't either 3- Thats no excuse to no try and make money 5 & 4- what are we taking about here? The PS3 patch or the DS? The patch is free and games will come regardless if it's at launch or not. I seriously doubt the 3DS is not going to have anything at launch. I'm not saying I want 3d gaming but it's hard to call it a failure when it hasn't really started yet. 3d gaming is not a bad idea at all. It's really taken off with the film industry and if it can draw in some of those people and bring in more money then theres no reason not to try.nunovlopes

The move to HDTVs is completely different than the move to 3DTVs. Plasmas/LCDs were needed because people want big TVs. It was very hard to go above 32'' or 36'' with a CRT because of the size issue. I still have a 32'' CRT and it is HUGE. LCD/Plasmas generally improved the aesthetics of your living room, and this is a big thing in terms of the WAF :). Not the same with 3DTVs, they look basically the same. So it's not a big jump like going from a CRT TV to a Plasma or LCD.

I really believe 3DTVs are not ready yet for mainstream acceptance. 3D gaming on the other hand I think it has more appeal, especially for the PC. Current-gen PCs are really powerfull and most games don't really take advantage of it. 3D gaming requires double the framerate so I really doubt current-gen consoles can pull it off with an acceptable performance. For a high-end PC it would be a breeze.

HD was basically made a standard. If you don't have an HDTV they've basically said you are a dumbass. 3D not quite so far. I'm a monkey and do what they tell me to? Look at me dance.

1. It's too soon. People just bought hdtv's

2. It's not necessary

3. The economy sucks. Why would anyone in their right mind buy a 3d tv?

4. It's an add on and another lame attempt at one which is really expensive.

5. There is no support at launch

What are these companies thinking? Another huge loss.

piercetruth34

[QUOTE="piercetruth34"]

1. It's too soon. People just bought hdtv's

2. It's not necessary

3. The economy sucks. Why would anyone in their right mind buy a 3d tv?

4. It's an add on and another lame attempt at one which is really expensive.

5. There is no support at launch

What are these companies thinking? Another huge loss.

zero_snake99

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Thebettertwin"] i think the biggest thing that will stop it taking off atm is the glasses.Thebettertwin

Because looking cool watching TV is the real priority, right?

When the price is right, and the content is ready, it will take off. People wore "goofy glasses" in droves for one stupid movie about stretched out smurfs ;)

3d is coming. It will be here for a good while. And eventually, the glasses will go away as tech improves. There are companies already working on it, and have been for some time.

The best results TODAY are with the glasses. But 15 years from now? I'd wager no. But 3D is not going anywhere. It's the next logical step for visual mediums.

The only logical explanation for hating the entire idea of 3D entertainment is being to poor to obtain it.

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="piercetruth34"]

1. It's too soon. People just bought hdtv's

2. It's not necessary

3. The economy sucks. Why would anyone in their right mind buy a 3d tv?

4. It's an add on and another lame attempt at one which is really expensive.

5. There is no support at launch

What are these companies thinking? Another huge loss.

Vinegar_Strokes

Defending the IPAD, yet belittling a (very large) push from multiple industries tells me your opinion is one worth disregarding.

That's the thing though. It's cool to look out. wow. I'm not saying it isn't. Will anyone buy it? It's not necessary. didn't people try this 30 years ago. It failed then. People don't care about 3d. why would it succeed now especially considering how the economy is. It's one of those fad things that people don't need. Yay I saw jaws in 3d. It was great. woot. I'm not buying it.

It's not something that people are willing to bet their wallets on.

piercetruth34

Damn...no one is forcing you to buy a 3D tv. Its an OPTION and options are always a good thing.

Damn...no one is forcing you to buy a 3D tv. Its an OPTION and options are always a good thing.

PSboy