[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="StaticOnTV"]The issue with PC gaming is I would like the full experience undisturbed while sitting in my Sofa.StaticOnTVYou can. The Quality gets lost in transition if you use cable to play PC games on a TV. it's not the same and it can have negative effects. Lost in transition? You're using the same cable if you hooked to a monitor or to a TV. Negative effects?
Reasons Why Consolites Don't Care About PC Gaming
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]I agree and I just edited my post. Thats why I only play RTS games on the PC. It's only clunky if you have an underpowered computer which I am guessing is your issue. I was mostly referring to gameplay with my original comment, not technical or graphical issues.RTS games play best on pc. :?
Liquid_
It's only clunky if you have an underpowered computer which I am guessing is your issue.[QUOTE="Liquid_"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] I agree and I just edited my post. Thats why I only play RTS games on the PC.wis3boi
Probably doesn't have one at all
Lol you think Im always on my smartphone when I come here?[QUOTE="StaticOnTV"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"] You can.MonsieurXThe Quality gets lost in transition if you use cable to play PC games on a TV. it's not the same and it can have negative effects. Lost in transition? You're using the same cable if you hooked to a monitor or to a TV. Negative effects?
You are speaking to a dumbass. Stop with that logic.
Nope. Common sense does not apply to everything. Common sense on something that is easily presentable makes sense. On your information, not so much.
lundy86_4
It seem that "common sense" mainly applies when you are getting owned
My point is that PC games are cheaper based on the fact  that no royalty is charged. That was the initial point, and one you have yet to disprove.
lundy86_4
Are you saying "no royalty" IS THE PROOF of PC gaming as being cheaper?
or
Are you saying PC gaming is cheaper BECAUSE OF "no royalty."
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In the case of the first, it is not proof.
In the case of the second, you would actually have to establish that PC gaming is cheaper, before you can establish that it is cheaper BECAUSE OF xyz.
My point was not identical to the individual that you quoted originally.
lundy86_4
Then you are solely responsible for any misunderstanding, hubris and the verbal asswhooping you have received at my hands today.
My point was that there were no royalties to pay, thus console games sell at $60 (for the most part) whilst PC games sell at |$50 (for the most part). Did you misconstrue my argument, somewhere?
lundy86_4
The common definition of "console games" and "pc games" is not limited to day one purchase.
Even within that narrow definition, I have already told you that I have bought several games day 1 for consoles under $40 (that were normally $60)
My assertion is that if we were to total up the receipts for the last 5 years for someone with the exact same multiplat library as myself purchased for PC, the difference will probably be in my favor, and in any event won't add up to a hill of beans.
It will certainly not pay for your rig, your next video card or anything else.
So if you are justifying expensive hardware based on "cheaper games" to pay for it, you are only fooling yourself.
I really have to get some food, might lurk later but will probably take it easy and watch a movie.
Have a good night and consider yourself pwnt.
heres my reasons
1-far little selection at retail id rather not wait 2 hours to download a single game
2 worrying about system requirments
3 key games not on pcÂ
4 finding a controller that actually works with every game , gta san andreas is like one ofthose to stubbern to work with any of the controllers i have 2 buttons are analog which is the reason and im not even goin to include the fact that theres extra functions not neccessary to the gameÂ
What are you talking about? :? GTA SA works fine with my GamePad, I only had to map it once.heres my reasons
1-far little selection at retail id rather not wait 2 hours to download a single game
2 worrying about system requirments
3 key games not on pcÂ
4 finding a controller that actually works with every game , gta san andreas is like one ofthose to stubbern to work with any of the controllers i have 2 buttons are analog which is the reason and im not even goin to include the fact that theres extra functions not neccessary to the gameÂ
mariokart64fan
[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Liquid_"] You are going to have to further explain yourself, every criticism you've made so far has been very vague and underdeveloped.Liquid_Well you commented on the fact that I said console games were more polished. I was mostly referring to gameplay with that comment. You want specific examples? I just played The Witcher 2 a month ago. When I would press the action button to climb, roll, pick up an item etc. it would take quite a while to respond. Going from gameplay to cutscenes was not smooth at all and the audio would cut in and out. It felt weird and unfinished. The menus were also strangely designed and combersome. I liked the game but it felt more low budget than a console game I was used to playing. Those same glitches are on PS3 and Xbox, so everything you said is invalid
Lol how do you figure? The game was developed for PC. Its a PC game, just ported to the 360 (its not on the PS3).
Those same glitches are on PS3 and Xbox, so everything you said is invalid[QUOTE="Liquid_"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Well you commented on the fact that I said console games were more polished. I was mostly referring to gameplay with that comment. You want specific examples? I just played The Witcher 2 a month ago. When I would press the action button to climb, roll, pick up an item etc. it would take quite a while to respond. Going from gameplay to cutscenes was not smooth at all and the audio would cut in and out. It felt weird and unfinished. The menus were also strangely designed and combersome. I liked the game but it felt more low budget than a console game I was used to playing.Miketheman83
Lol how do you figure? The game was developed for PC. Its a PC game, just ported to the 360 (its not on the PS3).
Because its the same game? Many of those issues you mentioned are typically symptoms of an underpowered computer or a virus infested PC
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]
Keep lying to yourself.
1. Even with Steam sales it's hard to find anything you'd actually want to play except multiplats.
2. Looking at prices just off what's on the Steam page today :
Max Payne 3 - Steam $39.99, 360 Amazon $29.99
Far Cry 3 - Steam $49.99 360 Amazon 360 $49.99
Ace Combat Assault Horizon - Steam $34.99 Amazon 360 $17.62
Borderlands 2 - Steam $59.99 Amazon 360 $48.98
XCOM - Steam $49.99 Amazon 360 $39.15
And that's not including buying it used.
And that's not including using rentals for games you play once.
And that's not including 2 for 1 sales, %40 off, black friday, trade in deals, etc.
I'm not discounting that MAYBE you might save some money depending on what you buy. But it's not gonna pay for your rig, it's not gonna pay for upgrades over 10 years, it's not gonna pay for MMO subscriptions, etc.
LazySloth718
1- That's like the worst statement i've ever read...
Maybe but it's my taste and I'm entitled to it.
I have no interest in "AI War : Fleet Command" even if they give me $2.75 for downloading it instead of me paying them.
I like what I like and play whatever I want.
If there is something PC exclusive I want, I can play it.
Just there is nothing interesting at this time.
WoW Panda sitting on my shelf in shrink wrap since release, I got physical copy on sale for $19.99 at Best Buy.
That's great, you only play big budget shallow games.
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="halogreatest"]
1. CONSOLE has better game. Â Uncarted. Â Halo. Gear war. God of War.
2. CONSOLE is 5x cheaper.
3. CONSOLE is more efficient, better gfx, no problems like bugs glitcehs.
4. Most of all PC is for nerds, lahahah.
lowe0
Man I'm soo glad you're on lowe0 faction.
And this is why I doubted you.You doubt me ? Because I potray myself as a PC gamer ? What's the difference between you and me ?
And this is why I doubted you.[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
Man I'm soo glad you're on lowe0 faction.
Bebi_vegeta
You doubt me ? Because I potray myself as a PC gamer ? What's the difference between you and me ?
Actually, at this point, I don't need to draw a distinction between you and I, because you've helpfully conceded that some distinction exists (by labeling the console gaming faction as being mine). Now, I don't disagree that I identify (as opposed to portray) myself as a console gamer as opposed to a PC gamer, but if you've already conceded that there is a difference, it doesn't make much sense to ask.
1. System Requirements- Checking requirements for every game you purchase is annoying and cumbersome. People shouldn't have to do research every time they buy a game. Ain't nobody got time fo dat. Nothing is more annoying than having problems running a game you've been waiting to play.
2. Keyboard and mouse- It really is an outdated way to control video games. PC games often map their controls to certain letters all around the keyboard. It's often very awkward and imprecise. We don't need the whole alphabet in our controller.
3. Games- PC games just don't have the big budgets as top tier console games. PC games often feel amateurish and outdated. While I love games like Left 4 Dead and The Witcher they are very unpolished games compared to console games, and that is because of small dev teams and low budgets.
4. Price/Accessibility- Keeping up with the latest tech can be very pricey and time consuming. Most of us have lives outside of gaming. Spending time cooped up in our rooms building/upgrading PC's is not an appealing thought.
5. Comfort- Sitting on the couch with a big screen television is the way video games are meant to be played. Sitting at a computer desk with a small monitor is  killing the fun in my opinion. The argument that you can connect your PC to your television and play with a controller is a poor argument because in reality you are just trying to make your PC like a console.
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I really wish PC gamers would stop trying to "sell" the PC to us console gamers. Â Bottom line is that we are aware of the benefits of PC gaming, but the cons outweigh the benefits by a large margin. Console companies aren't threatened by PC gaming, consoles gamers aren't threatened by PC gaming, truth is, no one really cares about PC gaming except the elitist people that spendvall their time on forums trying to convert people who couldn't be any more disinterested.
Miketheman83
1. Absolutely, especially when dealing with compatibility and driver issues. The only similar issue with a console is getting the version for your console.
2. True, while the mouse still has use in some niche genres, the keyboard just blows.
3. No brainer, game devs don't see the PC as a profitable platform so they have largely abandoned it. You can't claim PC still has its indie games when they are better on the console and 99% of indie games are garbage in the first place. Of course with a PC you can try to run 20+ years worth of older games, but thats a headache again with compatibility issues. OR you can use a PC to emulate older consoles which is far more enjoyable than trying to run old computer games.
4. The consoles are always ahead of PC tech at launch and it takes around 5-7 years for the PC tech to get get better and be priced appropriately. Right now is a good time to build a Gaming PC, but if you've had a console like the 360, this gen was good since 2005.
5. While it is possible to move the computer to the living room, the set up is just annoying and usually even more uncomfortable. PC Gaming is dying for this reason as wwell as what was already listed above.
Â
What I wish is for the PChildren to stop blaming the consoles for PCs lack of innovation. PChildren pirate their platform to death while real gamers support real gaming systems.
[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
1- That's like the worst statement i've ever read...
Bebi_vegeta
Maybe but it's my taste and I'm entitled to it.
I have no interest in "AI War : Fleet Command" even if they give me $2.75 for downloading it instead of me paying them.
I like what I like and play whatever I want.
If there is something PC exclusive I want, I can play it.
Just there is nothing interesting at this time.
WoW Panda sitting on my shelf in shrink wrap since release, I got physical copy on sale for $19.99 at Best Buy.
That's great, you only play big budget shallow games.
Hey Valve when will we get Half Life 3? I'd even take another crappy Half Life 2 episode!
We can't rely on Blizzard anymore either. Diablo 3 is sh!t compared to D2+1
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="lowe0"] And this is why I doubted you.lowe0
You doubt me ? Because I potray myself as a PC gamer ? What's the difference between you and me ?
Actually, at this point, I don't need to draw a distinction between you and I, because you've helpfully conceded that some distinction exists (by labeling the console gaming faction as being mine). Now, I don't disagree that I identify (as opposed to portray) myself as a console gamer as opposed to a PC gamer, but if you've already conceded that there is a difference, it doesn't make much sense to ask.Exactly... so what's your point when you said "And this is why I doubted you" ?
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]
Maybe but it's my taste and I'm entitled to it.
I have no interest in "AI War : Fleet Command" even if they give me $2.75 for downloading it instead of me paying them.
I like what I like and play whatever I want.
If there is something PC exclusive I want, I can play it.
Just there is nothing interesting at this time.
WoW Panda sitting on my shelf in shrink wrap since release, I got physical copy on sale for $19.99 at Best Buy.
EvanTheGamer
That's great, you only play big budget shallow games.
Hey Valve when will we get Half Life 3? I'd even take another crappy Half Life 2 episode!
We can't rely on Blizzard anymore either. Diablo 3 is sh!t compared to D2+1
I don't know when HL3 will release... at this point, I'm so late in playing games... I don't mind if it never comes out.
Yeah D3 wasn't great at all, pretty much of a let down.
Actually, at this point, I don't need to draw a distinction between you and I, because you've helpfully conceded that some distinction exists (by labeling the console gaming faction as being mine). Now, I don't disagree that I identify (as opposed to portray) myself as a console gamer as opposed to a PC gamer, but if you've already conceded that there is a difference, it doesn't make much sense to ask.[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
You doubt me ? Because I potray myself as a PC gamer ? What's the difference between you and me ?
Bebi_vegeta
Exactly... so what's your point when you said "And this is why I doubted you" ?
That you posted that you were glad the other poster wasn't in your faction, but instead that they were a console gamer. You looked down on him as being lesser than your fellow PC gamers, which is exactly what I was saying that I expected of you.[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]
1. System Requirements- Checking requirements for every game you purchase is annoying and cumbersome. People shouldn't have to do research every time they buy a game. Ain't nobody got time fo dat. Nothing is more annoying than having problems running a game you've been waiting to play.
2. Keyboard and mouse- It really is an outdated way to control video games. PC games often map their controls to certain letters all around the keyboard. It's often very awkward and imprecise. We don't need the whole alphabet in our controller.
3. Games- PC games just don't have the big budgets as top tier console games. PC games often feel amateurish and outdated. While I love games like Left 4 Dead and The Witcher they are very unpolished games compared to console games, and that is because of small dev teams and low budgets.
4. Price/Accessibility- Keeping up with the latest tech can be very pricey and time consuming. Most of us have lives outside of gaming. Spending time cooped up in our rooms building/upgrading PC's is not an appealing thought.
5. Comfort- Sitting on the couch with a big screen television is the way video games are meant to be played. Sitting at a computer desk with a small monitor is  killing the fun in my opinion. The argument that you can connect your PC to your television and play with a controller is a poor argument because in reality you are just trying to make your PC like a console.
Â
I really wish PC gamers would stop trying to "sell" the PC to us console gamers. Â Bottom line is that we are aware of the benefits of PC gaming, but the cons outweigh the benefits by a large margin. Console companies aren't threatened by PC gaming, consoles gamers aren't threatened by PC gaming, truth is, no one really cares about PC gaming except the elitist people that spendvall their time on forums trying to convert people who couldn't be any more disinterested.
EvanTheGamer
1. Absolutely, especially when dealing with compatibility and driver issues. The only similar issue with a console is getting the version for your console.
2. True, while the mouse still has use in some niche genres, the keyboard just blows.
3. No brainer, game devs don't see the PC as a profitable platform so they have largely abandoned it. You can't claim PC still has its indie games when they are better on the console and 99% of indie games are garbage in the first place. Of course with a PC you can try to run 20+ years worth of older games, but thats a headache again with compatibility issues. OR you can use a PC to emulate older consoles which is far more enjoyable than trying to run old computer games.
4. The consoles are always ahead of PC tech at launch and it takes around 5-7 years for the PC tech to get get better and be priced appropriately. Right now is a good time to build a Gaming PC, but if you've had a console like the 360, this gen was good since 2005.
5. While it is possible to move the computer to the living room, the set up is just annoying and usually even more uncomfortable. PC Gaming is dying for this reason as wwell as what was already listed above.
Â
What I wish is for the PChildren to stop blaming the consoles for PCs lack of innovation. PChildren pirate their platform to death while real gamers support real gaming systems.
2- I would disagree. It really depends on the same for me.
3- What devs have abandoned the PC ?
4- This is pure lie. PC hardware is way better, of course if you go for highest end then it's going to be expensive... but that depends on the person. Console did a good job this gen, that's for sure.
5- I don't see how PC is dying for this reason... this is not new.
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Actually, at this point, I don't need to draw a distinction between you and I, because you've helpfully conceded that some distinction exists (by labeling the console gaming faction as being mine). Now, I don't disagree that I identify (as opposed to portray) myself as a console gamer as opposed to a PC gamer, but if you've already conceded that there is a difference, it doesn't make much sense to ask.lowe0
Exactly... so what's your point when you said "And this is why I doubted you" ?
That you posted that you were glad the other poster wasn't in your faction, but instead that they were a console gamer. You looked down on him as being lesser than your fellow PC gamers, which is exactly what I was saying that I expected of you.I didn't look down on him at all. I'm glad because I wanted you to see how much your faction represents itself... Infact he was looking down on us.
That you posted that you were glad the other poster wasn't in your faction, but instead that they were a console gamer. You looked down on him as being lesser than your fellow PC gamers, which is exactly what I was saying that I expected of you.[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
Exactly... so what's your point when you said "And this is why I doubted you" ?
Bebi_vegeta
I didn't look down on him at all. I'm glad because I wanted you to see how much your faction represents itself... Infact he was looking down on us.
Yeah, this came up last time too. I recall posting a fairly lengthy list of posters who had made elitist statements; do you really think if we compare lists again you'll win this time?Â
That said, not looking down on him at all? Again, I simply don't believe you. You judged him as lesser than your own faction. I know you have to pretend not to think that for the sake of argument, but inevitably, how you actually feel about us comes out. A perfect example of what my first post in the thread was about.
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
[QUOTE="lowe0"] That you posted that you were glad the other poster wasn't in your faction, but instead that they were a console gamer. You looked down on him as being lesser than your fellow PC gamers, which is exactly what I was saying that I expected of you.lowe0
I didn't look down on him at all. I'm glad because I wanted you to see how much your faction represents itself... Infact he was looking down on us.
Yeah, this came up last time too. I recall posting a fairly lengthy list of posters who had made elitist statements; do you really think if we compare lists again you'll win this time?Â
That said, not looking down on him at all? Again, I simply don't believe you. You judged him as lesser than your own faction. I know you have to pretend not to think that for the sake of argument, but inevitably, how you actually feel about us comes out. A perfect example of what my first post in the thread was about.
The problem is, I don't have said list... I know you probably have a made up list on a note pad or even some tabs bookmarked for references.
And where did I look down on him ? I don't look down on console gamers, I look down on ignorance. You assume PC are all elitism, well then I can assume other things from your faction can I not ?
lowe0 is corect. PC gamerz are just stupit trolls.
Â
my man lowe0 know what is up and goes after htsoe nerds.
Thats been my experience with PC games. I cant think of any PC games with buttery smooth gameplay. The controls feel clunky to me, but most of the games Ive played on PC were RTS games ( the only genre of game thats better on PC in my opinion). Lying makes you look desperate. Are you desperate?[QUOTE="Liquid_"]
yeah, games on console are so much more established and polished
thanks for making me spit out my water
Miketheman83
Nice typing, did you graduate from elementary school yet?lowe0 is corect. PC gamerz are just stupit trolls.
Â
my man lowe0 know what is up and goes after htsoe nerds.
halogreatest
Yeah, this came up last time too. I recall posting a fairly lengthy list of posters who had made elitist statements; do you really think if we compare lists again you'll win this time?[QUOTE="lowe0"]
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
I didn't look down on him at all. I'm glad because I wanted you to see how much your faction represents itself... Infact he was looking down on us.
Bebi_vegeta
Â
That said, not looking down on him at all? Again, I simply don't believe you. You judged him as lesser than your own faction. I know you have to pretend not to think that for the sake of argument, but inevitably, how you actually feel about us comes out. A perfect example of what my first post in the thread was about.
The problem is, I don't have said list... I know you probably have a made up list on a note pad or even some tabs bookmarked for references.
And where did I look down on him ? I don't look down on console gamers, I look down on ignorance. You assume PC are all elitism, well then I can assume other things from your faction can I not ?
What's wrong with organizing one's sources? Anyway, if you can provide evidence that whatever stereotype you'd like to prove is expressed anywhere near as often as "peasant", "welfare gamer", "filth", "know your place", "ruining gaming", "too poor to buy a PC", "Mom won't buy you a PC", etc. , then I'll give it due consideration.
The REAL reasons:
- Ease of access. For the PS3 and the 360, all you have to do is pop the disc into the console and you're ready to go. For PC games, if your PC isn't up to snuff, there's a chance you won't be able to play your game because it's too demanding.
- Certain games are more fun to play with a controller. (Such as RPGs, platformers and sports.)
- Easy local multiplayer. Play splitscreen with your friends on one console. For PC, you need multiple PCs equal to the amount of people playing, and the game installed on each PC.
- Sometimes it's more comfortable to sit on your couch in front of large screen rather than sitting in a chair at a desk.
- I can't play Tales of Graces f or Ni No Kuni on my PC.
The REAL reasons:
- Ease of access. For the PS3 and the 360, all you have to do is pop the disc into the console and you're ready to go. For PC games, if your PC isn't up to snuff, there's a chance you won't be able to play your game because it's too demanding.
- Certain games are more fun to play with a controller. (Such as RPGs, platformers and sports.)
- Easy local multiplayer. Play splitscreen with your friends on one console. For PC, you need multiple PCs equal to the amount of people playing, and the game installed on each PC.
- Sometimes it's more comfortable to sit on your couch in front of large screen rather than sitting in a chair at a desk.
- I can't play Tales of Graces f or Ni No Kuni on my PC.
GeoffZak
those are not REAL reasons. those are only YOUR reasons i.e. opinions
also 2 & 4 are wrong as you can connect a fu*king controller to your PC and you can connect your PC to the TV and play on your couch
and about 5, i can say the same way - you can't play guild wars 2, starcraft 2, diablo etc. on a consoleÂ
The REAL reasons:
- Ease of access. For the PS3 and the 360, all you have to do is pop the disc into the console and you're ready to go. For PC games, if your PC isn't up to snuff, there's a chance you won't be able to play your game because it's too demanding.
- Certain games are more fun to play with a controller. (Such as RPGs, platformers and sports.)
- Easy local multiplayer. Play splitscreen with your friends on one console. For PC, you need multiple PCs equal to the amount of people playing, and the game installed on each PC.
- Sometimes it's more comfortable to sit on your couch in front of large screen rather than sitting in a chair at a desk.
- I can't play Tales of Graces f or Ni No Kuni on my PC.
GeoffZak
1. 2 Clicks. (What did i read?)
2. You CAN plug a controller, I control GTA IV's Movement with WASD and the Camera with Right Stick, Just for fun though, Not in MP.
3. LAN.
4. You CAN on PC.
5. Emulators as soon as PS4 gets released. You see? PC is still superior.
The REAL reasons:
- Ease of access. For the PS3 and the 360, all you have to do is pop the disc into the console and you're ready to go. For PC games, if your PC isn't up to snuff, there's a chance you won't be able to play your game because it's too demanding.
- Certain games are more fun to play with a controller. (Such as RPGs, platformers and sports.)
- Easy local multiplayer. Play splitscreen with your friends on one console. For PC, you need multiple PCs equal to the amount of people playing, and the game installed on each PC.
- Sometimes it's more comfortable to sit on your couch in front of large screen rather than sitting in a chair at a desk.
- I can't play Tales of Graces f or Ni No Kuni on my PC.
GeoffZak
1. Opinion. Easier to access on my PC. All I have to do is click 3 times and I'm in a game.
2. Opinion. Can connect controller to PC.
3. Opinion. Splitscreen is dying in general. However, with a life and a full time job, who has time to split screen it up all the time? The internet is the best option for most people that have lives.
4. Opinion. Also can connect controller to PC and hook PC up to TV.
5. Can't play the REAL version of BF3, GW2, Skyrim(Modded - the REAL edition), Stalker, etc. etc. on consoles.
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lowe0 is corect. PC gamerz are just stupit trolls.
Â
my man lowe0 know what is up and goes after htsoe nerds.
halogreatest
:lol:
man.. its such a shame that the greatest mind of the 21st century posts so rarely. you should post some more dude.
The REAL reasons:
- Ease of access. For the PS3 and the 360, all you have to do is pop the disc into the console and you're ready to go. For PC games, if your PC isn't up to snuff, there's a chance you won't be able to play your game because it's too demanding.
- Certain games are more fun to play with a controller. (Such as RPGs, platformers and sports.)
- Easy local multiplayer. Play splitscreen with your friends on one console. For PC, you need multiple PCs equal to the amount of people playing, and the game installed on each PC.
- Sometimes it's more comfortable to sit on your couch in front of large screen rather than sitting in a chair at a desk.
- I can't play Tales of Graces f or Ni No Kuni on my PC.
GeoffZak
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1. When I get a game from Steam, I download it in the background either while I'm playing another game or browsing the web. When its finished, I run the installer and then within 5 minutes I'm in and playing. That is no different from either the 360 with its (optional) installs and then updates or the PS3 with its compulsory installs then the slow update times. As for system requirements, you should know your PC's specs and make a judgement on whether or not to put money down on the game if you are unsure about it running.
2. I can play with a 360 pad plugged into my PC.
3. True, there are very few PC games with splitscreen however if I go to a LAN party, I don't have to contend with people screenlooking, the reduction in performance as the console has to render two sets of data for the players and I get to play on my own screen.
4. I can get an HDMI lead and connect it to my HDTV and boom, I'm playing Supcom on a 40in LED HDTV in the living room.
5. Never heard of that game so I'll let you have it.
I can't believe that only number 5 is right and even then there are many games you can't get on consoles and only PC.XDThe REAL reasons:
- Ease of access. For the PS3 and the 360, all you have to do is pop the disc into the console and you're ready to go. For PC games, if your PC isn't up to snuff, there's a chance you won't be able to play your game because it's too demanding.
- Certain games are more fun to play with a controller. (Such as RPGs, platformers and sports.)
- Easy local multiplayer. Play splitscreen with your friends on one console. For PC, you need multiple PCs equal to the amount of people playing, and the game installed on each PC.
- Sometimes it's more comfortable to sit on your couch in front of large screen rather than sitting in a chair at a desk.
- I can't play Tales of Graces f or Ni No Kuni on my PC.
GeoffZak
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]
Maybe but it's my taste and I'm entitled to it.
I have no interest in "AI War : Fleet Command" even if they give me $2.75 for downloading it instead of me paying them.
I like what I like and play whatever I want.
If there is something PC exclusive I want, I can play it.
Just there is nothing interesting at this time.
WoW Panda sitting on my shelf in shrink wrap since release, I got physical copy on sale for $19.99 at Best Buy.
EvanTheGamer
That's great, you only play big budget shallow games.
Hey Valve when will we get Half Life 3? I'd even take another crappy Half Life 2 episode!
We can't rely on Blizzard anymore either. Diablo 3 is sh!t compared to D2+1
Tbh, I don't think many non hipsters care for HL3 as its going to be nearly impossible for it to stand out in the shooter gen. why not mention bigger Valve successes like Team Fortress 2 or DoTA 2... you know, that latter game which is now never dropping off the most played steam game and is usually beating 2nd place by 4-5x the population?
Reasons why I care about PC Gaming:
Star Citizen
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Rome: Total War 2
Witcher 3
Arma 3
These games don´t look as exciting as this, but still :lol:
[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]
The REAL reasons:
- Ease of access. For the PS3 and the 360, all you have to do is pop the disc into the console and you're ready to go. For PC games, if your PC isn't up to snuff, there's a chance you won't be able to play your game because it's too demanding.
- Certain games are more fun to play with a controller. (Such as RPGs, platformers and sports.)
- Easy local multiplayer. Play splitscreen with your friends on one console. For PC, you need multiple PCs equal to the amount of people playing, and the game installed on each PC.
- Sometimes it's more comfortable to sit on your couch in front of large screen rather than sitting in a chair at a desk.
- I can't play Tales of Graces f or Ni No Kuni on my PC.
clyde46
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1. When I get a game from Steam, I download it in the background either while I'm playing another game or browsing the web. When its finished, I run the installer and then within 5 minutes I'm in and playing. That is no different from either the 360 with its (optional) installs and then updates or the PS3 with its compulsory installs then the slow update times. As for system requirements, you should know your PC's specs and make a judgement on whether or not to put money down on the game if you are unsure about it running.
You know, you don´t need to run the istaller if you had ran it before with other recent games. Basically it just checks your DirectX version and Windows stuff. Just click on cancel on the promt about additional installations and it will launch the game anyway.
So basicaly, in Steam, you just download a game and press the play button, that simple.
[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="StaticOnTV"] The Quality gets lost in transition if you use cable to play PC games on a TV. it's not the same and it can have negative effects.MonsieurXLost in transition? You're using the same cable if you hooked to a monitor or to a TV. Negative effects? Can't answer? :roll:
Cut him some slack. There are a lot of people here who've never even taken a close look at the back of their HDTVs and wondered what a VGA or DVI port is doing there......in addition to the HDMI port which the PC can also use.
I wish they'd look first before flapping their mouths. At least this guy knew you can hook up a PC to an HDTV.
[QUOTE="clyde46"]
[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]
The REAL reasons:
- Ease of access. For the PS3 and the 360, all you have to do is pop the disc into the console and you're ready to go. For PC games, if your PC isn't up to snuff, there's a chance you won't be able to play your game because it's too demanding.
- Certain games are more fun to play with a controller. (Such as RPGs, platformers and sports.)
- Easy local multiplayer. Play splitscreen with your friends on one console. For PC, you need multiple PCs equal to the amount of people playing, and the game installed on each PC.
- Sometimes it's more comfortable to sit on your couch in front of large screen rather than sitting in a chair at a desk.
- I can't play Tales of Graces f or Ni No Kuni on my PC.
jhonMalcovich
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1. When I get a game from Steam, I download it in the background either while I'm playing another game or browsing the web. When its finished, I run the installer and then within 5 minutes I'm in and playing. That is no different from either the 360 with its (optional) installs and then updates or the PS3 with its compulsory installs then the slow update times. As for system requirements, you should know your PC's specs and make a judgement on whether or not to put money down on the game if you are unsure about it running.
You know, you don´t need to run the istaller if you had ran it before with other recent games. Basically it just checks your DirectX version and Windows stuff. Just click on cancel on the promt about additional installations and it will launch the game anyway.
So basicaly, in Steam, you just download a game and press the play button, that simple.
That's incredibly bad advice. https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9974-PAXN-6252[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"][QUOTE="clyde46"]
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1. When I get a game from Steam, I download it in the background either while I'm playing another game or browsing the web. When its finished, I run the installer and then within 5 minutes I'm in and playing. That is no different from either the 360 with its (optional) installs and then updates or the PS3 with its compulsory installs then the slow update times. As for system requirements, you should know your PC's specs and make a judgement on whether or not to put money down on the game if you are unsure about it running.
lowe0
You know, you don´t need to run the istaller if you had ran it before with other recent games. Basically it just checks your DirectX version and Windows stuff. Just click on cancel on the promt about additional installations and it will launch the game anyway.
So basicaly, in Steam, you just download a game and press the play button, that simple.
That's incredibly bad advice. https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9974-PAXN-6252If the game doesn´t run, you can still execute the installer. But it never happened to me, at least. And it helps you to save precious 10 minutes when you can´t wait to play recently downloaded game.:DÂ
That's incredibly bad advice. https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9974-PAXN-6252[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]
You know, you don´t need to run the istaller if you had ran it before with other recent games. Basically it just checks your DirectX version and Windows stuff. Just click on cancel on the promt about additional installations and it will launch the game anyway.
So basicaly, in Steam, you just download a game and press the play button, that simple.
jhonMalcovich
If the game doesn´t run, you can still execute the installer. But it never happened to me, at least. And it helps you to save precious 10 minutes when you can´t wait to play recently downloaded game.:DÂ
It takes you 10 minutes to install a game? :lol:[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"][QUOTE="lowe0"] That's incredibly bad advice. https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9974-PAXN-6252clyde46
If the game doesn´t run, you can still execute the installer. But it never happened to me, at least. And it helps you to save precious 10 minutes when you can´t wait to play recently downloaded game.:DÂ
It takes you 10 minutes to install a game? :lol:Probably less, but I just hate sitting and watching the progess bars. The time goes slowwwwww.
As I already said, I didn´t have any problem with cancel button yet.
lowe0 is corect. PC gamerz are just stupit trolls.
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my man lowe0 know what is up and goes after htsoe nerds.
halogreatest
There you go, keep going at it.
It takes you 10 minutes to install a game? :lol:[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]
If the game doesn´t run, you can still execute the installer. But it never happened to me, at least. And it helps you to save precious 10 minutes when you can´t wait to play recently downloaded game.:DÂ
jhonMalcovich
Probably less, but I just hate sitting and watching the progess bars. The time goes slowwwwww.
As I already said, I didn´t have any problem with cancel button yet.
Get yourself an SSD dude.[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
[QUOTE="lowe0"] Yeah, this came up last time too. I recall posting a fairly lengthy list of posters who had made elitist statements; do you really think if we compare lists again you'll win this time?
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That said, not looking down on him at all? Again, I simply don't believe you. You judged him as lesser than your own faction. I know you have to pretend not to think that for the sake of argument, but inevitably, how you actually feel about us comes out. A perfect example of what my first post in the thread was about.
lowe0
The problem is, I don't have said list... I know you probably have a made up list on a note pad or even some tabs bookmarked for references.
And where did I look down on him ? I don't look down on console gamers, I look down on ignorance. You assume PC are all elitism, well then I can assume other things from your faction can I not ?
What's wrong with organizing one's sources? Anyway, if you can provide evidence that whatever stereotype you'd like to prove is expressed anywhere near as often as "peasant", "welfare gamer", "filth", "know your place", "ruining gaming", "too poor to buy a PC", "Mom won't buy you a PC", etc. , then I'll give it due consideration.Lowe0, you know there's exactly the same amount of equivalent stereotype applied to PC gamers. I'm not saying PC gamers who do say that are right, I'm saying if you can assume that this is the image of the whole PC community... Well I can assume the same for yours.
What's wrong with organizing one's sources? Anyway, if you can provide evidence that whatever stereotype you'd like to prove is expressed anywhere near as often as "peasant", "welfare gamer", "filth", "know your place", "ruining gaming", "too poor to buy a PC", "Mom won't buy you a PC", etc. , then I'll give it due consideration.[QUOTE="lowe0"]
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
The problem is, I don't have said list... I know you probably have a made up list on a note pad or even some tabs bookmarked for references.
And where did I look down on him ? I don't look down on console gamers, I look down on ignorance. You assume PC are all elitism, well then I can assume other things from your faction can I not ?
Bebi_vegeta
Lowe0, you know there's exactly the same amount of equivalent stereotype applied to PC gamers. I'm not saying PC gamers who do say that are right, I'm saying if you can assume that this is the image of the whole PC community... Well I can assume the same for yours.
Not even close. I see quite a few more posters making elitist statements against console gamers than I do PC gamers, and with far more vitriol.Please Log In to post.
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