Reasons Why Consolites Don't Care About PC Gaming

It´s not power supply issue. 680W is more than enouh for one single PCIE card. Besides we don´t even know if his problem really persists.jhonMalcovich

It could be. I have a Diablotek 750w PSU that was more than sufficient to power an AMD HD 5770. Yet, when I replaced my HD 5770 with a GTX 560 Ti, I started having overheating issues with both the Diablotek PSU and the GTX 560 Ti.

This is my guess...... If someone has a better guess, you're more than welcome.

Although the Diablotek should have plenty of juice, it's +12v railing was good for only 38A. Most good PSUs have at least 50A on the +12v railing. At least, that's my observation. When I replaced the Diablotek with a 700w CoolerMaster and a +12v of 54A, all the overheating issues with the GTX 560 Ti disappeared. 

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]It´s not power supply issue. 680W is more than enouh for one single PCIE card. Besides we don´t even know if his problem really persists.jun_aka_pekto

It could be. I have a Diablotek 750w PSU that was more than sufficient to power an AMD HD 5770. Yet, when I replaced my HD 5770 with a GTX 560 Ti, I started having overheating issues with both the Diablotek PSU and the GTX 560 Ti.

This is my guess...... If someone has a better guess, you're more than welcome.

Although the Diablotek should have plenty of juice, it's +12v railing was good for only 38A. Most good PSUs have at least 50A on the +12v railing. At least, that's my observation. When I replaced the Diablotek with a 700w CoolerMaster and a +12v of 54A, all the overheating issues with the GTX 560 Ti disappeared. 

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]It´s not power supply issue. 680W is more than enouh for one single PCIE card. Besides we don´t even know if his problem really persists.clyde46

It could be. I have a Diablotek 750w PSU that was more than sufficient to power an AMD HD 5770. Yet, when I replaced my HD 5770 with a GTX 560 Ti, I started having overheating issues with both the Diablotek PSU and the GTX 560 Ti.

This is my guess...... If someone has a better guess, you're more than welcome.

Although the Diablotek should have plenty of juice, it's +12v railing was good for only 38A. Most good PSUs have at least 50A on the +12v railing. At least, that's my observation. When I replaced the Diablotek with a 700w CoolerMaster and a +12v of 54A, all the overheating issues with the GTX 560 Ti disappeared. 

So true , every Diablotek psu Ive encounter failed with a horrible ending.

That 750w Diablotek does not have enough @SS behind it to allow large power loads.

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]It´s not power supply issue. 680W is more than enouh for one single PCIE card. Besides we don´t even know if his problem really persists.clyde46

It could be. I have a Diablotek 750w PSU that was more than sufficient to power an AMD HD 5770. Yet, when I replaced my HD 5770 with a GTX 560 Ti, I started having overheating issues with both the Diablotek PSU and the GTX 560 Ti.

This is my guess...... If someone has a better guess, you're more than welcome.

Although the Diablotek should have plenty of juice, it's +12v railing was good for only 38A. Most good PSUs have at least 50A on the +12v railing. At least, that's my observation. When I replaced the Diablotek with a 700w CoolerMaster and a +12v of 54A, all the overheating issues with the GTX 560 Ti disappeared. 

Well, gee. Too late. Where the h*ll were you back in 2009. :lol:

Prior to that, I've had name-brand PSUs like Antec become quirky on some of the other (minor) PCs I assembled. When no-name PSU and expensive name-brand PSU both fail, it was back to Square 1 for me. 

The Diablotek actually works great still with the HD 5770 in my kid's gaming PC. I'll leave it there until I assemble a new PC and my kid gets my current one.

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

I suspect 680 watts may not be enough to power that system reliably under a full load.

Rocker6

It´s not power supply issue. 680W is more than enouh for one single PCIE card.

Definitely this, his PSU has enough capacity and is of a decent quality, we can rule that out. Sounds like some driver issue, so Clyde's guide should be the way to go. Only other thing that falls in mind could be a bad OC, if he tried that.

I have never overclocked and will never do, it is far above my head, i am new to PC world.

PC gaming is fun but fix problems is not fun, it only give me headache and i get frustrated when it not work lol

Wii was so easy, just press power button, put in game disc and play without any problems.

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[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

It´s not power supply issue. 680W is more than enouh for one single PCIE card.

Wiiyou

Definitely this, his PSU has enough capacity and is of a decent quality, we can rule that out. Sounds like some driver issue, so Clyde's guide should be the way to go. Only other thing that falls in mind could be a bad OC, if he tried that.

I have never overclocked and will never do, it is far above my head, i am new to PC world.

PC gaming is fun but fix problems is not fun, it only give me headache and i get frustrated when it not work lol

Wii was so easy, just press power button, put in game disc and play without any problems.

thats what google and the hardware forums are for

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

It´s not power supply issue. 680W is more than enouh for one single PCIE card.

Wiiyou

Definitely this, his PSU has enough capacity and is of a decent quality, we can rule that out. Sounds like some driver issue, so Clyde's guide should be the way to go. Only other thing that falls in mind could be a bad OC, if he tried that.

I have never overclocked and will never do, it is far above my head, i am new to PC world.

PC gaming is fun but fix problems is not fun, it only give me headache and i get frustrated when it not work lol

Wii was so easy, just press power button, put in game disc and play without any problems.

guy doesn't even like PC gaming and still his rig....
argh... why am i stuck with a 6770 i don't deserve this :cry: 

Big Budget PC Games are usualy multiplats... lolhippiesanta

Consoles only had like 30 exclusives each this gen, while PC had 120.

Big Budget PC Games are usualy multiplats... lolhippiesanta

Yeah, like GW2, Diablo 3, SC2 + Expac, Empire TW, Rome 2, Star Citizen, Torchlight 2, ARMA 3, DayZ...all multiplats and all of them are the complete big budget PC line-up.

Oh hang on, no they aren't ......

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]Big Budget PC Games are usualy multiplats... lol1080pOnly

Yeah, like GW2, Diablo 3, SC2 + Expac, Empire TW, Rome 2, Star Citizen, Torchlight 2, ARMA 3, DayZ...all multiplats and all of them are the complete big budget PC line-up.

Oh hang on, no they aren't ......

You left out DOTA 2 :(

[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]Big Budget PC Games are usualy multiplats... lolPrimordialous

Yeah, like GW2, Diablo 3, SC2 + Expac, Empire TW, Rome 2, Star Citizen, Torchlight 2, ARMA 3, DayZ...all multiplats and all of them are the complete big budget PC line-up.

Oh hang on, no they aren't ......

You left out DOTA 2 :(

True, I left out a huge number of games though.

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]Big Budget PC Games are usualy multiplats... lol1080pOnly

Yeah, like GW2, Diablo 3, SC2 + Expac, Empire TW, Rome 2, Star Citizen, Torchlight 2, ARMA 3, DayZ...all multiplats and all of them are the complete big budget PC line-up.

Oh hang on, no they aren't ......

Those are the only big budget titles that count to consolites.

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]Big Budget PC Games are usualy multiplats... lol1080pOnly

Yeah, like GW2, Diablo 3, SC2 + Expac, Empire TW, Rome 2, Star Citizen, Torchlight 2, ARMA 3, DayZ :lol: ...all multiplats and all of them are the complete big budget PC line-up.

Oh hang on, no they aren't ......

those ist are soo funny ... middle school funny :D

Just ignore posts by console peasants. They are just angry that we have glorious machines given to us by god and they have.......garbage. Fizzman

[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]Big Budget PC Games are usualy multiplats... lolhippiesanta

Yeah, like GW2, Diablo 3, SC2 + Expac, Empire TW, Rome 2, Star Citizen, Torchlight 2, ARMA 3, DayZ :lol: ...all multiplats and all of them are the complete big budget PC line-up.

Oh hang on, no they aren't ......

those ist are soo funny ... middle school funny :D

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

It could be. I have a Diablotek 750w PSU that was more than sufficient to power an AMD HD 5770. Yet, when I replaced my HD 5770 with a GTX 560 Ti, I started having overheating issues with both the Diablotek PSU and the GTX 560 Ti.

This is my guess...... If someone has a better guess, you're more than welcome.

Although the Diablotek should have plenty of juice, it's +12v railing was good for only 38A. Most good PSUs have at least 50A on the +12v railing. At least, that's my observation. When I replaced the Diablotek with a 700w CoolerMaster and a +12v of 54A, all the overheating issues with the GTX 560 Ti disappeared. 

jun_aka_pekto

Well, gee. Too late. Where the h*ll were you back in 2009. :lol:

Prior to that, I've had name-brand PSUs like Antec become quirky on some of the other (minor) PCs I assembled. When no-name PSU and expensive name-brand PSU both fail, it was back to Square 1 for me. 

The Diablotek actually works great still with the HD 5770 in my kid's gaming PC. I'll leave it there until I assemble a new PC and my kid gets my current one.

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] NO NO NO NO! That Diablotek POS is something you should never ever buy. The PSU is something you can not ever skimp out on. DragonfireXZ95

Well, gee. Too late. Where the h*ll were you back in 2009. :lol:

Prior to that, I've had name-brand PSUs like Antec become quirky on some of the other (minor) PCs I assembled. When no-name PSU and expensive name-brand PSU both fail, it was back to Square 1 for me. 

The Diablotek actually works great still with the HD 5770 in my kid's gaming PC. I'll leave it there until I assemble a new PC and my kid gets my current one.

<3 my corsair 620

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]It´s not power supply issue. 680W is more than enouh for one single PCIE card. Besides we don´t even know if his problem really persists.clyde46

It could be. I have a Diablotek 750w PSU that was more than sufficient to power an AMD HD 5770. Yet, when I replaced my HD 5770 with a GTX 560 Ti, I started having overheating issues with both the Diablotek PSU and the GTX 560 Ti.

This is my guess...... If someone has a better guess, you're more than welcome.

Although the Diablotek should have plenty of juice, it's +12v railing was good for only 38A. Most good PSUs have at least 50A on the +12v railing. At least, that's my observation. When I replaced the Diablotek with a 700w CoolerMaster and a +12v of 54A, all the overheating issues with the GTX 560 Ti disappeared. 

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]

[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

Yeah, like GW2, Diablo 3, SC2 + Expac, Empire TW, Rome 2, Star Citizen, Torchlight 2, ARMA 3, DayZ :lol: ...all multiplats and all of them are the complete big budget PC line-up.

 

Oh hang on, no they aren't ......

Jankarcop

those ist are soo funny ... middle school funny :D

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]

[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

Yeah, like GW2, Diablo 3, SC2 + Expac, Empire TW, Rome 2, Star Citizen, Torchlight 2, ARMA 3, DayZ :lol: ...all multiplats and all of them are the complete big budget PC line-up.

 

Oh hang on, no they aren't ......

Jankarcop

those ist are soo funny ... middle school funny :D

pretty sure he thinks that 'RTS and MMOs don't count' 

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]

 

those ist are soo funny ... middle school funny :D

AcidThunder

pretty sure he thinks that 'RTS and MMOs don't count' 

don't count what you cant have, as usual

Why don't they ever make anything like Mass Effect or Gears or GTA or Heavy Rain as PC exclusive?

Because it sells better on console.

Why do they make MMO PC exclusive?

Because it's strong enough to handle it, and PC gamers already used to getting ripped off and having their time wasted.

Why do they make RTS PC exclusive?

Because a mouse is a natural requisite to having a good RTS experience, nobody buy RTS for console.

Why don't they ever make anything like Mass Effect or Gears or GTA or Heavy Rain as PC exclusive?

Because it sells better on console.

Why do they make MMO PC exclusive?

Because it's strong enough to handle it, and PC gamers already used to getting ripped off and having their time wasted.

Why do they make RTS PC exclusive?

Because a mouse is a natural requisite to having a good RTS experience, nobody buy RTS for console.

ZombieKiller7

Why don't they ever make anything like Mass Effect or Gears or GTA or Heavy Rain as PC exclusive?

Because it sells better on console.

Why do they make MMO PC exclusive?

Because it's strong enough to handle it, and PC gamers already used to getting ripped off and having their time wasted.

Why do they make RTS PC exclusive?

Because a mouse is a natural requisite to having a good RTS experience, nobody buy RTS for console.

ZombieKiller7

Have you missed the thread 50 PC exlusives 2013 ?

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Why don't they ever make anything like Mass Effect or Gears or GTA or Heavy Rain as PC exclusive?

Because it sells better on console.

Why do they make MMO PC exclusive?

Because it's strong enough to handle it, and PC gamers already used to getting ripped off and having their time wasted.

Why do they make RTS PC exclusive?

Because a mouse is a natural requisite to having a good RTS experience, nobody buy RTS for console.

jhonMalcovich

Have you missed the thread 50 PC exlusives 2013 ?

There is no "exclusivity" on PC.

If something is good on PC, it comes to console.

PC is like college hoops.

Console is like NBA.

They recruit from PC, take their talent from PC, take the best games from PC, take best tech from PC.

As a result the console experience is a distillation of the best the PC has to offer, boiled down, filtered and bottled for mass consumption.

Essentially PC gamers are deeply hurt at lack of attention and focus to their platform.

They want to be console bros, and get attention and have Usher dancing for them.

But the world just ignores the PC.

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Why don't they ever make anything like Mass Effect or Gears or GTA or Heavy Rain as PC exclusive?

Because it sells better on console.

Why do they make MMO PC exclusive?

Because it's strong enough to handle it, and PC gamers already used to getting ripped off and having their time wasted.

Why do they make RTS PC exclusive?

Because a mouse is a natural requisite to having a good RTS experience, nobody buy RTS for console.

ZombieKiller7

Have you missed the thread 50 PC exlusives 2013 ?

There is no "exclusivity" on PC.

If something is good on PC, it comes to console.

PC is like college hoops.

Console is like NBA.

They recruit from PC, take their talent from PC, take the best games from PC, take best tech from PC.

As a result the console experience is a distillation of the best the PC has to offer, boiled down, filtered and bottled for mass consumption.

Essentially PC gamers are deeply hurt at lack of attention and focus to their platform.

They want to be console bros, and get attention and have Usher dancing for them.

But the world just ignores the PC.

Point me towards a console that can play Guild Wars 2, Witcher 1, Crysis Warhead, STALKER, Arma, Starcraft, Total War, Anno, Planetside 2, Amnesia, Hotline Miami, etc, etc. Also show me a console that plays Bethesda RPGs (and I want to play them, not suffer through them)...

All of those games are held in high regard by both gamers and critics, making a huge hole in your argument. There's also plenty of genre variety right there, so "LOL RTS/MMO" can't really pass for any sort of an argument.

And please, whatever you do, don't mention Usher and the PC in the same sentence again!

EVER! :evil:

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Have you missed the thread 50 PC exlusives 2013 ?

Rocker6

There is no "exclusivity" on PC.

If something is good on PC, it comes to console.

PC is like college hoops.

Console is like NBA.

They recruit from PC, take their talent from PC, take the best games from PC, take best tech from PC.

As a result the console experience is a distillation of the best the PC has to offer, boiled down, filtered and bottled for mass consumption.

Essentially PC gamers are deeply hurt at lack of attention and focus to their platform.

They want to be console bros, and get attention and have Usher dancing for them.

But the world just ignores the PC.

Point me towards a console that can play Guild Wars 2, Witcher 1, Crysis Warhead, STALKER, Arma, Starcraft, Total War, Anno, Planetside 2, Amnesia, Hotline Miami, etc, etc. Also show me a console that plays Bethesda RPGs (and I want to play them, not suffer through them)...

All of those games are held in high regard by both gamers and critics, making a huge hole in your argument. There's also plenty of genre variety right there, so "LOL RTS/MMO" can't really pass for any sort of an argument.

And please, whatever you do, don't mention Usher and the PC in the same sentence again!

EVER! :evil:

Mechwarriors Online is one ugly game... needs alot of work and polish.MBirdy88

Why don't they ever make anything like Mass Effect or Gears or GTA or Heavy Rain as PC exclusive?

Because it sells better on console.

Why do they make MMO PC exclusive?

Because it's strong enough to handle it, and PC gamers already used to getting ripped off and having their time wasted.

Why do they make RTS PC exclusive?

Because a mouse is a natural requisite to having a good RTS experience, nobody buy RTS for console.

ZombieKiller7

Why aren't they exlcusive to console ?

At the end of the day its all about preference. Also no matter how you slice it, for casual gamer having a gaming rig makes no sense it just doesn't. I enjoy gaming on the PC, but this gen I have preferred consoles.

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Why don't they ever make anything like Mass Effect or Gears or GTA or Heavy Rain as PC exclusive?

Because it sells better on console.

Why do they make MMO PC exclusive?

Because it's strong enough to handle it, and PC gamers already used to getting ripped off and having their time wasted.

Why do they make RTS PC exclusive?

Because a mouse is a natural requisite to having a good RTS experience, nobody buy RTS for console.

ZombieKiller7

Have you missed the thread 50 PC exlusives 2013 ?

There is no "exclusivity" on PC.

If something is good on PC, it comes to console.

PC is like college hoops.

Console is like NBA.

They recruit from PC, take their talent from PC, take the best games from PC, take best tech from PC.

As a result the console experience is a distillation of the best the PC has to offer, boiled down, filtered and bottled for mass consumption.

Essentially PC gamers are deeply hurt at lack of attention and focus to their platform.

They want to be console bros, and get attention and have Usher dancing for them.

But the world just ignores the PC.

:lol::lol::lol:

Yep, PC has a lack of attention, despite having more games and exclusives than any of the consoles.  You heard it here folks.

Also, I might add that competitive gaming is almost 100% on PC now.  LoL and StarCraft are pretty much the only competitive games taken seriously, and what platform are they on?  Oh....Right. That pretty much negates your "the world ignores the PC statement" :roll:

And before you say that competitve gaming is a joke, I'll say that League of Legends Season 2 championship had over 8 million unique viewers during the finals.  Also, competitve esports are broadcast live on South Korean television, all PC games.

Point me towards a console that can play Guild Wars 2, Witcher 1, Crysis Warhead, STALKER, Arma, Starcraft, Total War, Anno, Planetside 2, Amnesia, Hotline Miami, etc, etc. Also show me a console that plays Bethesda RPGs (and I want to play them, not suffer through them)...

All of those games are held in high regard by both gamers and critics, making a huge hole in your argument. There's also plenty of genre variety right there, so "LOL RTS/MMO" can't really pass for any sort of an argument.

And please, whatever you do, don't mention Usher and the PC in the same sentence again!

EVER! :evil:

Rocker6

Guild Wars 2, Planetside 2 -> MMO

Starcraft, Total War, Anno -> RTS

Witcher 1, Crysis Warhead, Stalker, Arma, Amnesia, Hotline Miami -> If they are good they will be multiplat, they are not multiplat because they won't sell. In reality there is no such thing as "PC exclusive" as there is nothing keeping them exsluvie beyond lack of interest.

Bethesda RPG's play perfectly on 360, there are no issues.

If graphics (rez, framerate, etc) keep you from enjoying an otherwise perfect experience, then you have priorities other than gaming and I respect that but you probably belong on a hardware site rather than a gaming site.

"We have no exclusives this year, so here's Usher!"

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Have you missed the thread 50 PC exlusives 2013 ?

Plagueless

There is no "exclusivity" on PC.

If something is good on PC, it comes to console.

PC is like college hoops.

Console is like NBA.

They recruit from PC, take their talent from PC, take the best games from PC, take best tech from PC.

As a result the console experience is a distillation of the best the PC has to offer, boiled down, filtered and bottled for mass consumption.

Essentially PC gamers are deeply hurt at lack of attention and focus to their platform.

They want to be console bros, and get attention and have Usher dancing for them.

But the world just ignores the PC.

:lol::lol::lol:

Yep, PC has a lack of attention, despite having more games and exclusives than any of the consoles.  You heard it here folks.

Also, I might add that competitive gaming is almost 100% on PC now.  LoL and StarCraft are pretty much the only competitive games taken seriously, and what platform are they on?  Oh....Right. That pretty much negates your "the world ignores the PC statement" :roll:

And before you say that competitve gaming is a joke, I'll say that League of Legends Season 2 championship had over 8 million unique viewers during the finals.  Also, competitve esports are broadcast live on South Korean television, all PC games.

lol esports

hahahaha

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Point me towards a console that can play Guild Wars 2, Witcher 1, Crysis Warhead, STALKER, Arma, Starcraft, Total War, Anno, Planetside 2, Amnesia, Hotline Miami, etc, etc. Also show me a console that plays Bethesda RPGs (and I want to play them, not suffer through them)...

All of those games are held in high regard by both gamers and critics, making a huge hole in your argument. There's also plenty of genre variety right there, so "LOL RTS/MMO" can't really pass for any sort of an argument.

And please, whatever you do, don't mention Usher and the PC in the same sentence again!

EVER! :evil:

ZombieKiller7

Guild Wars 2, Planetside 2 -> MMO

Starcraft, Total War, Anno -> RTS

Witcher 1, Crysis Warhead, Stalker, Arma, Amnesia, Hotline Miami -> If they are good they will be multiplat, they are not multiplat because they won't sell. In reality there is no such thing as "PC exclusive" as there is nothing keeping them exsluvie beyond lack of interest.

Bethesda RPG's play perfectly on 360, there are no issues.

If graphics (rez, framerate, etc) keep you from enjoying an otherwise perfect experience, then you have priorities other than gaming and I respect that but you probably belong on a hardware site rather than a gaming site.

"We have no exclusives this year, so here's Usher!"

again that same sh*t "RTS/MMO don't count". the last time i checked they were still video game genres.
RTS
MMO

 and are you really saying that Crysis Warhead, Amnesia, Hotline Miami, Witcher are bad? 

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Point me towards a console that can play Guild Wars 2, Witcher 1, Crysis Warhead, STALKER, Arma, Starcraft, Total War, Anno, Planetside 2, Amnesia, Hotline Miami, etc, etc. Also show me a console that plays Bethesda RPGs (and I want to play them, not suffer through them)...

All of those games are held in high regard by both gamers and critics, making a huge hole in your argument. There's also plenty of genre variety right there, so "LOL RTS/MMO" can't really pass for any sort of an argument.

And please, whatever you do, don't mention Usher and the PC in the same sentence again!

EVER! :evil:

ZombieKiller7

Guild Wars 2, Planetside 2 -> MMO

Starcraft, Total War, Anno -> RTS

Witcher 1, Crysis Warhead, Stalker, Arma, Amnesia, Hotline Miami -> If they are good they will be multiplat, they are not multiplat because they won't sell. In reality there is no such thing as "PC exclusive" as there is nothing keeping them exsluvie beyond lack of interest.

Bethesda RPG's play perfectly on 360, there are no issues.

If graphics (rez, framerate, etc) keep you from enjoying an otherwise perfect experience, then you have priorities other than gaming and I respect that but you probably belong on a hardware site rather than a gaming site.

"We have no exclusives this year, so here's Usher!"

All of those games sold well enough to make sequels worthwhile, in some cases those sequels even went multiplatform. But even then, the predcessors stayed PC exclusive...

I disagree with this lack of interest, some devs simply may prefer the enviroment of an open platform, and that is a valid reason to stay PC exclusive.

As for Bethesda games, I was refering to mods and community fixes more than graphics, since usually, unmodded Bethesda games can get messy if a game breaking bug or two kicks in, and you're stuck with few weeks of waiting for an official patch that may fix the issue. But you're right about one thing, I do have lots of interest in hardware and technology trends, but I don't see how that makes me any less of a gamer...

Why bite Zombies crap?MBirdy88

Have nothing better to right now... and well, I'll take him over starring at the walls, or whatever! :P

i use a 55 inch LED TV for my pc gaming :)

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Why bite Zombies crap?Rocker6

Have nothing better to right now... and well, I'll take him over starring at the walls, or whatever! :P

When him and other trolls get called out on their lying asses:

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Why don't they ever make anything like Mass Effect or Gears or GTA or Heavy Rain as PC exclusive?

Because it sells better on console.

Why do they make MMO PC exclusive?

Because it's strong enough to handle it, and PC gamers already used to getting ripped off and having their time wasted.

Why do they make RTS PC exclusive?

Because a mouse is a natural requisite to having a good RTS experience, nobody buy RTS for console.

ZombieKiller7

Have you missed the thread 50 PC exlusives 2013 ?

There is no "exclusivity" on PC.

If something is good on PC, it comes to console.

PC is like college hoops.

Console is like NBA.

They recruit from PC, take their talent from PC, take the best games from PC, take best tech from PC.

As a result the console experience is a distillation of the best the PC has to offer, boiled down, filtered and bottled for mass consumption.

Essentially PC gamers are deeply hurt at lack of attention and focus to their platform.

They want to be console bros, and get attention and have Usher dancing for them.

But the world just ignores the PC.

The guy is just upset that XBOX is going always  online drm and no second hand games. He can´t settle down with the idea console gaming is dying.

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] No PC games on the list, pal. Except APB.

http://digitalbattle.com/2010/02/20/top-10-most-expensive-video-game-budgets-ever/

RR360DD

lol the date in that link is 2010. :lol:

TOR had the biggest budget of a game ever and that was in 2011.

So that list is outdated and invalid

His original point is still very much valid. There are some big budget PC games, but they are very few and far between compared to console games. Threads made BY HERMITS showing lists of upcoming PC games are proof enough. The vast majority are small budget / indie games that could probably run on a 4 year old iPhone.

23 page thread, and tons of threads like this.

I"m sure you don't care about pc gaming :lol: