Reasons why the 360 is rubbish

where do i start...

 

1. by far the worst and most unreliable hardware with its rings of death and overheating problems.

2. Releasing the core unit with no hdd which could effect devs decisions to use it.

3. still no built in wifi for the elite and continues with major hardware faults *even after a year and more* come on.

4. still using dvd9's limiting work for devs.

5. MS milking everyone with there choices and should of released the elite at the beginning.

6. still has no games that equal the more life like animations that Drakes fortune uses. that includes walking through swaying and movable foliage and some of the most realistic jungle environments to this date.

7. still no 360 game that equals the draw distance and big environments seen in heavenly sword and lair.

8. Still needs to rely on the UE3 to make the 360 games look good. PS3 continues to use its own engines and art direction to show the PS3s true power.

9. Still continues with its more so trend of shootem ups and mindless storylines that require no real skill..with no proper art direction.

10. so damn loud.

-Maddog-

Some good logical reasons there. Anther thing about is that all of its 'best' games are M rated, (part from viva pinata :D) were as the ps3 has wide range for everyone.

[QUOTE="bb2jidm"]okay, well you're a Sony fan with a big helping of denial.   The 360 is one of the best experiences I've ever had with a console.   I've owned just about everything since the Intellivision.   I love everything about it - with the game selection.... there's a neverending supply of good games.    I have a queue of games that I own that I need to play - plus new games coming out weekly.   I love the Live system and the achievements that keep me playing and that I can see what my friends are playing.   It's great....  right now it would be my first choice of the current generation.    Again IMHO.Subcritical

I was wondering if you have had the joy of downloading the Gears of War content in the Xbox Live Marketplace for a fee? 

Map packs of this nature have always been free from Epic on PC's.

your right the 360 fails unlike sony who

1)has 1 or 2 great games in thier library

2)system overheats after 5min of playing a blu ray movie on ocasion

3)whose expensive technology was forced on a consumer who might not need it

4)who said that the cgi trailers at e3 were real

5)who compared the ps3 to a fine dinner and said that the ps3 was shooting for the sun

6)who said the ps3 was too cheap

7)who's losing alot of exclusives to microsoft

8)who's online is free but not together as of now

9) who's system is way to expensive for the child to teen market that the system is usually ment for

10)who's system has sold the least out of everyone

 

you know why blu ray has more space? because the compression uses an older technology which needs more space to store the data, this compression loses quality in sound and picture.

sony is losing tons of mony on this console which as of now is selling poorly. i know its fun to say you have to wait, i thought if i did that with my psp magic would happen but it didnt! microsoft had decent games at launch most of which are better then ps3's. i wont lie and say they were the best looking or best games out, but for launch they were good. who knows right now who will win the console race but as of now sony is losing from a market and consumer standpoint. 

njo

About the price, i have 3 words for you, 'supply and demand'. That means that whente demand for the ps3 runs out, they'll drop the price, ad get more sales :). Btw though, thanks for the laugh i had out of that :D

About the price, i have 3 words for you, 'supply and demand'. That means that whente demand for the ps3 runs out, they'll drop the price, ad get more sales :). Btw though, thanks for the laugh i had out of that :D

you realize that it costs over 1000 to make each ps3, if they dropped the price it would still cost them that much to make and they lose even more money if the demand is still low. it could very well turn around for them but who knows. im glad you got a laugh im sure you need humor to lighten up your day assuming your a current ps3 owner. 

Hmm, what's that? I couldn't hear you over my plethora of AAA/AA games and ports that run better on the 360. Say that again?Verge_6

Im sure you can hear over those 5 AAA titles.... 

1: It is a problem, but PS3s overheating is also there. I don't know of any major difficulities with the Wii (technically the straps is one.. but that is partly stupidity).

2: It won't be used for games. 

3: At least it is available, but I agree, we should at least be able to use normal wifis.

4: Seems to work fine.

5: Why? the premium is just fine as it is, and the core serves its purpose. If someone wants an elite, sure go for it.

6: Bull. 

7: Not released son.

8: Problem with using a good engine? Not to mention, Kameo looked damn good, so did PDZ. They were available.. in the first month.

9: Mindless shoot em ups? What about Resistance? Wouldn't that be considered a "mindless shoot em up". Gears is way more tactical. (I am not bashing Resistance, I love the game... just stating a point).

10: I haven't noticed, I don't have a PS3 or Wii myself so I can't make a side by side comparison. But as said, I haven't noticed any extreme ..noises. 

your right the 360 fails unlike sony who

1)has 1 or 2 great games in thier library Temporary

2)system overheats after 5min of playing a blu ray movie on ocasion :roll: Lemmings are the last one to talk about hardware problems    

3)whose expensive technology was forced on a consumer who might not need it We will need it

4)who said that the cgi trailers at e3 were real  All companies lie and boast at some point in this generation    

5)who compared the ps3 to a fine dinner and said that the ps3 was shooting for the sun What?

6)who said the ps3 was too cheap   Because its worth 800$ plus

7)who's losing alot of exclusives to microsoft Vice versa Oblivion, Saint's Row 2 anyone?

8)who's online is free but not together as of now Your scared of Home admit it

9) who's system is way to expensive for the child to teen market that the system is usually ment for It's 2007 Video games are not mainly for children It's aged at out age group. Well mine at the least.

10)who's system has sold the least out of everyone The 360 isn't selling well. Only the wii is. 

njo

good post!legalize3

are you seriously this blind? read the other posts to see that the tc has been put in his place. 

the ps3 has no games argument is old and just dumb.

the 360 dose have problems......dont try to hide it, hopefully they will fix it soon

there are upcoming games for both that look great.... its what ur interested in more that decides which is for u

dvd9 will start to get full, mass effect has flled it.....how long till all realese fill them? its not anything big but for games like gta in the future changing disks could be very bad. now i cant know this for sure, but it makes sense.

good post!legalize3

good post. all what you said are FACTS.xxThyLordxx

 Not really, the post should be renamed '10 reasons why cows can't use logic or argue worth a crap.'

 

[QUOTE="tempest91"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"]

where do i start...

 

1. by far the worst and most unreliable hardware with its rings of death and overheating problems.

2. Releasing the core unit with no hdd which could effect devs decisions to use it.

3. still no built in wifi for the elite and continues with major hardware faults *even after a year and more* come on.

4. still using dvd9's limiting work for devs.

5. MS milking everyone with there choices and should of released the elite at the beginning.

6. still has no games that equal the more life like animations that Drakes fortune uses. that includes walking through swaying and movable foliage and some of the most realistic jungle environments to this date.

7. still no 360 game that equals the draw distance and big environments seen in heavenly sword and lair.

8. Still needs to rely on the UE3 to make the 360 games look good. PS3 continues to use its own engines and art direction to show the PS3s true power.

9. Still continues with its more so trend of shootem ups and mindless storylines that require no real skill..with no proper art direction.

10. so damn loud.

Set_Free

Reason's why your argument fails

1.  My launch system is running quietly as we speak.

2. You list games that haven't even come out yet because the PS3's library is a joke and makes fanboy's such as yourself resort to this wait and see attitude because you have nothing to brag about.

3. The unreal engine owns any proprietary Sony engine, as GeOW still destroys all PS3 games and the future releases that you mention.

4. Mindless story lines are subject to your opinion that seems to have no support or factual evidence to make it valid.

5. DVD9 is still used by the majority of developers making it hands down the cheapest and easiest way to make games, on the same token Blu-ray's ridiculous cost is driving developers to have to make games multi-platform on the 360 and Wii to counteract the PS3's poor sales and just to break even with development costs on an unproven HD-format.

I could go on, but your argument was dead long ago.

2. they 360 library was stronger at its 6th month but not by much, dont forget where the 360 came from, i know because i got one at launch (remember Gun, perfect dark zero, madden 06,ect...)

3. Ge OW came out a year after 360...give sony a chance

4. I only speak facts

5. Although what you say is true here, blu ray will catch on ... once production cost go down the retail prices will also, thus helping the spread of blu ray into the average house hold...

It is running quietly, i've heard others that run louder that are newer, i guess i'm just lucky.  The 360 library is way stronger than the PS3 at any month.  I don't understand how people can say otherwise.  It had an exclusive AAA game on launch and now has two exclusive AAA games where the PS3 is yet to have one.  More so than that, the list of AA games on 360 exclusive or not is 3 times that of the PS3.  This even library or nearly even is s myth.  The PS3 library as of now is a joke, and makes people such as yourself resort to this wait and see.  First it was wait for november, then wait til march, now its wait til E3, and soon it'll be wait til '08.  It really never seems to get old.  And as for the cost of blu-ray, it will be 3-5 years before blu-ray production costs drop.  The sales are decent, but nothing compared to DVD9 sales.  Not even close. 

[QUOTE="njo"]

your right the 360 fails unlike sony who

1)has 1 or 2 great games in thier library Temporary

2)system overheats after 5min of playing a blu ray movie on ocasion :roll: Lemmings are the last one to talk about hardware problems

3)whose expensive technology was forced on a consumer who might not need it We will need it

4)who said that the cgi trailers at e3 were real All companies lie and boast at some point in this generation

5)who compared the ps3 to a fine dinner and said that the ps3 was shooting for the sun What?

6)who said the ps3 was too cheap Because its worth 800$ plus

7)who's losing alot of exclusives to microsoft Vice versa Oblivion, Saint's Row 2 anyone?

8)who's online is free but not together as of now Your scared of Home admit it

9) who's system is way to expensive for the child to teen market that the system is usually ment for It's 2007 Video games are not mainly for children It's aged at out age group. Well mine at the least.

10)who's system has sold the least out of everyone The 360 isn't selling well. Only the wii is.

Silvereign

1)i never said they were never going to get more great games

2)i know its fun to say lemmings like a little kid to feel better. but yes the 360 has some harware issues too, and i didnt say that they dont

3)not everyone need what you need, having a lower cost system and giving the consumer options is actualy a good thing

4)im almost positive nintendo and microsoft havent said and showed as much false information as sony, maybe not even at all

5)those quotes are from former president ken kutagari 

6)600$ isnt cheap and saying it is sounds very stupid even though you are right about it costing sony 800$+ to make

7)oblivion was never exclusive in the first place, about saints row, i dont know if they said they were exclusive to thr 360

8)no i just like a cohesive online where i can see what my friends are doing at anytime and join them and have it all work funtionally and have it ready for launch and beyond

9)i said usually, videogames have alway been marketed for the younger crowd, that being said adults like it too and i never said they didnt

10) #1nintendo ds #2wii #360 #4ps3 

THe PS3 is 10 times worse. FOr example online service and sellection of games.turgore

Which all well known to start changing in August with its many great titles coming out and its online improvements.

PS3 is about to surge!

this thread is a failure, since not that many people had the ring of death problem andif u did you get it fixed for free, and for the devs worried about no hd explain why they are jumping ship and pulling their exclusives OFF tht ps3?

you sony fans are really looking sad, cuz your system is good yeah but guess what this gen isn't going to sony,it looks like its gonna go to all three but sony is gonna take some time

plus the devs say its easier to work with 360 so thats another problem with ps3

oh and bluray is just gonna cut out multiple discs, but who cares about that

[QUOTE="turgore"]THe PS3 is 10 times worse. FOr example online service and sellection of games.casey7672

Which all well known to start changing in August with its many great titles coming out and its online improvements.

PS3 is about to surge!

not with a 600 dollar price tag it won't, it's obvious people go for wii, so no it will never surge unless they drop it to 300, but by then 360 and wii will be around 150

where do i start...

 

1. by far the worst and most unreliable hardware with its rings of death and overheating problems.

mine works fine 

2. Releasing the core unit with no hdd which could effect devs decisions to use it.

Bethesada uses it, so does capcom, so does the majority of ok devs and better 

3. still no built in wifi for the elite and continues with major hardware faults *even after a year and more* come on.

where are you getting the info on the hardware faults?

4. still using dvd9's limiting work for devs.

cause the ps3 is having bigger and better looking games:roll:

5. MS milking everyone with there choices and should of released the elite at the beginning.

not really, i didnt by any of there add ons. If you wanted a HD-DVD player, the add on is at great price in comparison

6. still has no games that equal the more life like animations that Drakes fortune uses. that includes walking through swaying and movable foliage and some of the most realistic jungle environments to this date.

Ps3 still has no games like that- and you only say that because the devs said that. Theres likely to be games released better than that by the time it comes out

7. still no 360 game that equals the draw distance and big environments seen in heavenly sword and lair.

I hope your joking about heavenly sword but yes lair does look good with the good utilization of LOD and progrssive mesh. The PS3 still has no game like that either.

8. Still needs to rely on the UE3 to make the 360 games look good. PS3 continues to use its own engines and art direction to show the PS3s true power.

You do relize that there are tons of great looking non UE 360 games, right? UE is just the fastest way to make games

9. Still continues with its more so trend of shootem ups and mindless storylines that require no real skill..with no proper art direction.

WTF?

10. so damn loud.

Not the new Ben-Q drive :) i miss my 360 reving up though

-Maddog-

my comments in bold 

[QUOTE="casey7672"]

[QUOTE="turgore"]THe PS3 is 10 times worse. FOr example online service and sellection of games.SegArgyle

Which all well known to start changing in August with its many great titles coming out and its online improvements.

PS3 is about to surge!

not with a 600 dollar price tag it won't, it's obvious people go for wii, so no it will never surge unless they drop it to 300, but by then 360 and wii will be around 150

me and two other people i know are gettin it in a while. u think the huge list of great looking upcoming games mean nothing...

remember, gears came out a year after the 360 was released

[QUOTE="SegArgyle"][QUOTE="casey7672"]

[QUOTE="turgore"]THe PS3 is 10 times worse. FOr example online service and sellection of games.hip-hop-cola

Which all well known to start changing in August with its many great titles coming out and its online improvements.

PS3 is about to surge!

not with a 600 dollar price tag it won't, it's obvious people go for wii, so no it will never surge unless they drop it to 300, but by then 360 and wii will be around 150

me and two other people i know are gettin it in a while. u think the huge list of great looking upcoming games mean nothing...

remember, gears came out a year after the 360 was released

also remember the 360 has two exclusive AAA games, not one.  And 3 times as many AA games.  So its not just one game that makes the 360's library far superior.  And this is without Halo or Mass Effect, or any other possible AAA exclusives to add to the list while the PS3 still awaits its first.

[QUOTE="njo"]

2)system overheats after 5min of playing a blu ray movie on ocasion :roll: Lemmings are the last one to talk about hardware problems    

Silvereign

And cows should be too. Don't act like just because the PS3 is reliable that Sony has never had issues with hardware reliablity..This is one of the biggest jokes coming out of the sony fanboy camp. How dare you bash the 360's hardware problems when you went through 2 generations of hardware unreliablity? This is the pennacle of hypocrisy.

Yes, absolutely the 360's hardware is shoddy and underbuilt. But that never stopped anyone from buying previous Playstation consoles did it? It's funny how some of the things cows bash the 360 for are things that they accepted from the PS1 and PS2.

The PS2 had no HD built in(Xbox had it), Had hardware reliablity issues, no built in ethernet (Xbox had it) milking customers for extra stuff (all are guilty of this BTW)

See the similarities? Yet the PS2 sold 100 million units worldwide anyway.

[QUOTE="SegArgyle"][QUOTE="casey7672"]

[QUOTE="turgore"]THe PS3 is 10 times worse. FOr example online service and sellection of games.hip-hop-cola

Which all well known to start changing in August with its many great titles coming out and its online improvements.

PS3 is about to surge!

not with a 600 dollar price tag it won't, it's obvious people go for wii, so no it will never surge unless they drop it to 300, but by then 360 and wii will be around 150

me and two other people i know are gettin it in a while. u think the huge list of great looking upcoming games mean nothing...

remember, gears came out a year after the 360 was released

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Hmm, what's that? I couldn't hear you over my plethora of AAA/AA games and ports that run better on the 360. Say that again?R-Dot-Yung

while this thread is ridiculous

the fact that a game is rated AAA by gamespot, does not make it more fun or better than RFOM or Motorstorm just because they arent AAA

i really hate when people are like, "PS3 has no AAA's it sucks"

who cares

I'm sorry, but just look at the AAA/AA games on the sticky. The 360 has much more. And this board goes by GS rules and ratings; if a game gets a higher rating than one game here, it is better. There are exceptions though, such as the THPS3 rating.

[QUOTE="Silvereign"][QUOTE="njo"]

your right the 360 fails unlike sony who

1)has 1 or 2 great games in thier library Temporary

2)system overheats after 5min of playing a blu ray movie on ocasion :roll: Lemmings are the last one to talk about hardware problems

3)whose expensive technology was forced on a consumer who might not need it We will need it

4)who said that the cgi trailers at e3 were real All companies lie and boast at some point in this generation

5)who compared the ps3 to a fine dinner and said that the ps3 was shooting for the sun What?

6)who said the ps3 was too cheap Because its worth 800$ plus

7)who's losing alot of exclusives to microsoft Vice versa Oblivion, Saint's Row 2 anyone?

8)who's online is free but not together as of now Your scared of Home admit it

9) who's system is way to expensive for the child to teen market that the system is usually ment for It's 2007 Video games are not mainly for children It's aged at out age group. Well mine at the least.

10)who's system has sold the least out of everyone The 360 isn't selling well. Only the wii is.

njo

1)i never said they were never going to get more great games You were stating the here and now which Im telling you is not going to be like that.

2)i know its fun to say lemmings like a little kid to feel better. but yes the 360 has some harware issues too, and i didnt say that they dont It's more then some....:| Those hardware issues is making me wait on the purchase of my 360.

3)not everyone need what you need, having a lower cost system and giving the consumer options is actualy a good thing

You think Nintendo made a cheap system for you???? Theycan't compete with Sony and Microsoft in the same department.

4)im almost positive nintendo and microsoft havent said and showed as much false information as sony, maybe not even at all

Doesn't matter they still have.

5)those quotes are from former president ken kutagari what?

6)600$ isnt cheap and saying it is sounds very stupid even though you are right about it costing sony 800$+ to make

It's not cheap but your getting more value for your dollar.

7)oblivion was never exclusive in the first place, about saints row, i dont know if they said they were exclusive to thr 360

The point is 360 will be sharing alot more games with the PS3 and PS3 will be sharing alot more games with the 360

8)no i just like a cohesive online where i can see what my friends are doing at anytime and join them and have it all work funtionally and have it ready for launch and beyond

So you will like Home then

9)i said usually, videogames have alway been marketed for the younger crowd, that being said adults like it too and i never said they didnt

10) #1nintendo ds #2wii #360 #4ps3

I'm pretty sure PS3 is selling well with no games and a 600$ price tag.

:?

[QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

yes, the hardware problem is a really making alot of people mad. 3 out of 5 friends i know got a broken paper weight now. and one of them traded it in for a PS 3.

 

Mancow_wrestler

Man the fakeboys are coming out of the woodwork tonight. ;) 

noway, its true story, my friends got their Xbox 360 bricked after updating it recently.

Ummmm some things i would like to pint out, the ps2 had a built in hard drive at  launch, although sony has had hardware issues they do not compare to the problems microsoft has had, i believe the ps3s online is free, and this wait and see attitude is completely different to what was said a year ago. A year ago an ausome and extensive line up wasnt with a deadline, a year ago exclusives that powered the ps2 and are now on the ps3 werent with a deadline and a year ago the home beta wasnt out. 

where do i start...

1. by far the worst and most unreliable hardware with its rings of death and overheating problems.

2. Releasing the core unit with no hdd which could effect devs decisions to use it.

3. still no built in wifi for the elite and continues with major hardware faults *even after a year and more* come on.

4. still using dvd9's limiting work for devs.

5. MS milking everyone with there choices and should of released the elite at the beginning.

6. still has no games that equal the more life like animations that Drakes fortune uses. that includes walking through swaying and movable foliage and some of the most realistic jungle environments to this date.

7. still no 360 game that equals the draw distance and big environments seen in heavenly sword and lair.

8. Still needs to rely on the UE3 to make the 360 games look good. PS3 continues to use its own engines and art direction to show the PS3s true power.

9. Still continues with its more so trend of shootem ups and mindless storylines that require no real skill..with no proper art direction.

10. so damn loud.

-Maddog-

where do i start...

 

1. by far the worst and most unreliable hardware with its rings of death and overheating problems.

2. Releasing the core unit with no hdd which could effect devs decisions to use it.

3. still no built in wifi for the elite and continues with major hardware faults *even after a year and more* come on.

4. still using dvd9's limiting work for devs. DVD 9 is fine, its not limiting anyone

5. MS milking everyone with there choices and should of released the elite at the beginning. Its not that big of a deal, look at the DS lite

6. still has no games that equal the more life like animations that Drakes fortune uses. that includes walking through swaying and movable foliage and some of the most realistic jungle environments to this date. Is that game even out yet? oh yea thats right it isnt and you guys are still have no good games.

7. still no 360 game that equals the draw distance and big environments seen in heavenly sword and lair. Lair is really empty, look at the mountains, and how the hell does draw distance effect a game so dramatically. I thought the Draw distance in Oblivion and Crackdown was great 

8. Still needs to rely on the UE3 to make the 360 games look good. PS3 continues to use its own engines and art direction to show the PS3s true power. If it aint broke why fix it?

9. Still continues with its more so trend of shootem ups and mindless storylines that require no real skill..with no proper art direction.  Now you are being ridiculous, RPGs: LO, Blue Dragon, Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Fable 2. BTW what games are on your console that take skill, and since when do video games take a ****load of skill?

10. so damn loud. get better Speakers on your TV to blot out the sound, its not that bad. Or you could put it in a cabinet and cut a hole in the back of the cabinet for ventilation

-Maddog-

where do i start...

 

1. by far the worst and most unreliable hardware with its rings of death and overheating problems.

aye some peeps ave probs but mine hasnt as yet and had mine for 9 months now

2. Releasing the core unit with no hdd which could effect devs decisions to use it.

alot of games are confirmed for the 360 so makes no difference it seems

3. still no built in wifi for the elite and continues with major hardware faults *even after a year and more* come on.

cant expect a new system to be PERFECT every system will have some faulty ones

4. still using dvd9's limiting work for devs.

still looks VERY good thou huh

5. MS milking everyone with there choices and should of released the elite at the beginning.

opinion

6. still has no games that equal the more life like animations that Drakes fortune uses. that includes walking through swaying and movable foliage and some of the most realistic jungle environments to this date.

wow swaying and moving foliage what ever is MS gunna do to compete with that!!! gears looks better and mass effect

7. still no 360 game that equals the draw distance and big environments seen in heavenly sword and lair.

there is but your cow head must be stuck in your udders

8. Still needs to rely on the UE3 to make the 360 games look good. PS3 continues to use its own engines and art direction to show the PS3s true power.

yet the 360 games look as good and at times better then ps3 yea

9. Still continues with its more so trend of shootem ups and mindless storylines that require no real skill..with no proper art direction.

look at the release list

10. so damn loud.

oh no the noise!! put some music on or turn the tv up then

-Maddog-

dealt

ok o.o

Untill Lair, heavenly sword or drakes come along to my PS3. I belive nothing you say ;)

So far the best thing on my PS3 is Motorstorm FF 12 and GOW 2   

I hope Every 360 recieves the Rings Of death and they soon realize how much of a mistake they have made. Only bad thing about the PS3 is the amount of games. DIE 360 FANBOYS!Ackad

 Thanks for your pointless intervention. So you intend to die when PS4 is released?