Reasons why the PS3 will NOT be a failure.

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#1 black_awpN1
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(Please note that these are mme personal opinons, and is no way shape or form fanbbyoism. So dont scrutinize me, you System War Jackels!)

Here is my reasons why the PS3 will not be a failure and will not "die".

1. Games: Yes we all knows the story. "ZOMG DMC4 on 360!" But ypour forgetting theres franchises thst are coming to the PS3 that you will never see on the 360. (Ratchet and clank, Tekken, Killzone, Jak and daxter, SOCOM, FF games (excluding 11), and every first party game. PS2 had soooo many killer franchises that will more or less transfer over to this gen.

2. Blu-Ray built in: note that this only applies if you care for HD videos. PS3 is one of th echepest blu-ray players out there. and it also plays games to boot. So when Blu-Ray wins, people are going to look for the cheapest way to get blu-ray (again, people who care about it) Imagine there surprise when they find out there Blu-Ray player plays games. I for one dont think Blu-ray is necessary for this gen, but its great for movies. If anything, sony could sell the PS3 for blu-ray alone. (which wouldnt be good for there gaming division, because you need people to buy games.)

3. Six Axis potential: now this is a bit of a confusing matter to me. Why would sony pimp this tilt thing if half there games dont even use it or when they use it, they hardly utilize it. Luckly, games like Lair and War Hawk should make EXCELLENT use of the six axis. THe potential is there.

4. THere is going to be a price drop: I laugh my arse off at people on system wars that say, "Its 600 dollars! Fission Mailed SONY!" There is going to be a price drop people. Once the console gets around 400 (maybe 500) we may see PS2 owners coming to the PS3. So please dont be foolish enough to think its going to be 600 dollars forever.

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Its not getting a 200 dollar price drop. Ill bet on that. As for 100 price drop its still 500 bucks. when 360 will obviousaly have a price drop and be 200/300/and 400 for the Elite. so the big price drop wont be so huge this year IMO.

As for the games. Sure but Microsoft has really stepped it up this gen in bringing franchises. THey allready had Forza, PGR, and Halo. But they added, Perfect Dark, Kameo, viva Pinata, Banjo 3, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Mass Effect, Too Human, Gears, etc. And Nintendo well there Nintendo. 1st/2nd party is where they shine better than anybody. and 3rd party exclusives will be rare this gen. I think PS3 will lose another big one. Maybe Tekken, Maybe Kingdom Hearts, Time will tell.

Six Axis has lots of potential. and so does the library of games and the bluray is a great feature for HD owners.

PS3 wont fail, but SOny willl lost tons of market share. I predict they will be playing from behind for the rest of 07 and even most of 08. And it will be late 08 early 09 Sony starts making a comeback.
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I know that whenever we say "just wait" we all get flamed and stuff, but man, wait for a few of Sony's heavy-hitting franchises to come out then see who's laughing:)
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#4 Ontain
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1. all consoles have great franchises. but unless ps3's sales pick up i don't see them staying on ps3 for long.

2. don't care.

3. it's really only good for that one type of play. much more of a gimmick than the wiimote.

4. just wait. well i don't see sales picking up that much at 500. isn't it around that much in japan? they still have the 20 gig one in amazon japan (so i assume other places have it too) for around $400 us.

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Well to be honest Socom is a great game that IMO better than GRAW and while Killzone 2 is not going to be the Halo killer it could turn out to be good,I'm saying this because Killzone for the PSP was simply Brilliant with the DLC which is free it would probably scored higher,too bad Gamespot doesn't reviews games after the DLC.Also Warhawk seems to be a good game,I hope it doesn't end like Shadowrun.
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#6 whocares4peace
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2 mistakes with your post

1.Tekken isnt 1 st pary and seeing as how Namco made Soul Calibur 4 multi platform, i wouldnt be surprised if the next tekken was multiplatform

2.When the ps3 eventually costs 400$, the 360 will cost 200-250$,So Sony will always lose in the price war

The Ps3 obviuosly wont fail, but it wont be as successful as its predeccesor

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#7 hdtv_man
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PS3 Sales May - 81,000

PS3 Sales By State Monthly - 1,620

PS3 Sales By State By Week - 376

PS3 Sales By State ByDay - 52

PS3 Sales By State By Month By Hour - 2

EPIC FAILURE...

TCHBO///

END THREAD

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#8 gundamfan80
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Its not getting a 200 dollar price drop. Ill bet on that. As for 100 price drop its still 500 bucks. when 360 will obviousaly have a price drop and be 200/300/and 400 for the Elite. so the big price drop wont be so huge this year IMO.jg4xchamp

I doubt there will be a price drop for the 360 anytime soon. first they said themselves they aren't going to, second this is looking to be the first time the xbox name has ever made money so why would they thrust themselves back into the red for the 6th straight year.

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#9 lowe0
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Sixaxis is just a gimmick.  Tilt can be integrated into games for a few things, but it lacks a rest state - eliminating input on any given axis requires a conscious effort.  On a joystick, you just stop pushing in that direction, but with tilt, you actually have to hold still.  It's like driving a car with too much power steering - there's no feedback.
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#10 Redfingers
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2 mistakes with your post

1.Tekken isnt 1 st pary and seeing as how Namco made Soul Calibur 4 multi platform, i wouldnt be surprised if the next tekken was multiplatform

2.When the ps3 eventually costs 400$, the 360 will cost 200-250$,So Sony will always lose in the price war

The Ps3 obviuosly wont fail, but it wont be as successful as its predeccesor

whocares4peace

1) Don't bet on it, Tekken has always been arcade/Playstation exclusive and for Tekken 6, they BOTH have Cell processors running the game

2) Says who? Certainly not Microsoft.

$100-200 OS FTW.

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#11 lilrush
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PS3 Sales May - 81,000

PS3 Sales By State Monthly - 1,620

PS3 Sales By State By Week - 376

PS3 Sales By State ByDay - 52

PS3 Sales By State By Month By Hour - 2

EPIC FAILURE...

TCHBO///

END THREAD

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You're on your 45th post and you have the almighty opinions that end threads? watch out, big man coming through. My bad, big hdtv man.
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#12 Redfingers
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Sixaxis is just a gimmick. Tilt can be integrated into games for a few things, but it lacks a rest state - eliminating input on any given axis requires a conscious effort. On a joystick, you just stop pushing in that direction, but with tilt, you actually have to hold still. It's like driving a car with too much power steering - there's no feedback.lowe0

This is a lie, I'm afraid. Have you tried driving in Motorstorm using the Sixaxis controls? You don't just float. I actually found that in this particular game, there was too large of a "rest area" where the car would just sit still, requiring you to jolt it to either side to steer.

Still, calling a feature a gimmick when it drives the control schemes of two major games for the platform is a little over the top. Factor Five cited it as the reason they preferred the PS3 platform while Warhawk says its a great feature. We've heard from Factor Five and lots of previews/hands on that the motion controls are ultimately superior to any joystick/gamepad option.

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There are few consoles to date that truly fail at everything. Systems like the virtual boy (Trying to needlessly innovate; sorta like what nintendo is doing right now if you ask me, but this was far worse) and 3do were failures while saturn and dreamcast (Hell, all sega systems but genesis really) really had great games and real promise, but consumers didn't want a fast hedgehog or a flying jester guy, they wanted a plumber or beautiful graphics. *vents* Yeah.. second thought i hate sony...
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PS3 Sales May - 81,000

PS3 Sales By State Monthly - 1,620

PS3 Sales By State By Week - 376

PS3 Sales By State ByDay - 52

PS3 Sales By State By Month By Hour - 2

EPIC FAILURE...

TCHBO///

END THREAD

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OMG, not this guy again....

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#15 lilrush
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[QUOTE="hdtv_man"]

PS3 Sales May - 81,000

PS3 Sales By State Monthly - 1,620

PS3 Sales By State By Week - 376

PS3 Sales By State ByDay - 52

PS3 Sales By State By Month By Hour - 2

EPIC FAILURE...

TCHBO///

END THREAD

FonkeyMunky7

OMG, not this guy again....


That's exactly what i'm sayin. oh man hdtvman, they already know you as "that guy"? :lol:That's not good considering you been on gamespot how long......2 weeks...
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[QUOTE="FonkeyMunky7"][QUOTE="hdtv_man"]

PS3 Sales May - 81,000

PS3 Sales By State Monthly - 1,620

PS3 Sales By State By Week - 376

PS3 Sales By State ByDay - 52

PS3 Sales By State By Month By Hour - 2

EPIC FAILURE...

TCHBO///

END THREAD

lilrush

OMG, not this guy again....


That's exactly what i'm sayin. oh man hdtvman, they already know you as "that guy"? :lol:That's not good considering you been on gamespot how long......2 weeks...

LMAO, he made a thread about this last week.

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#17 black_awpN1
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I really didnt intend for this to be a PS3 vs 360 thread. I was just stating what I think the consoles streanths are.

(EDIT: oops, forgot God of war to the list.)

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#18 lowe0
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This is a lie, I'm afraid. Have you tried driving in Motorstorm using the Sixaxis controls? You don't just float. I actually found that in this particular game, there was too large of a "rest area" where the car would just sit still, requiring you to jolt it to either side to steer.

Redfingers

Yes, I've tried it a couple times, and I'll agree that it's not very responsive.  However, if developers have to add huge amounts of dead zone, doesn't that actually prove my point that motion controls are more trouble than they're worth?  We'll see how it works in Lair in August, but for now, I'm not convinced.
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(Please note that these are mme personal opinons, and is no way shape or form fanbbyoism. So dont scrutinize me, you System War Jackels!)

Here is my reasons why the PS3 will not be a failure and will not "die".

1. Games: Yes we all knows the story. "ZOMG DMC4 on 360!" But ypour forgetting theres franchises thst are coming to the PS3 that you will never see on the 360. (Ratchet and clank, Tekken, Killzone, Jak and daxter, SOCOM, FF games (excluding 11), and every first party game. PS2 had soooo many killer franchises that will more or less transfer over to this gen.

2. Blu-Ray built in: note that this only applies if you care for HD videos. PS3 is one of th echepest blu-ray players out there. and it also plays games to boot. So when Blu-Ray wins, people are going to look for the cheapest way to get blu-ray (again, people who care about it) Imagine there surprise when they find out there Blu-Ray player plays games. I for one dont think Blu-ray is necessary for this gen, but its great for movies. If anything, sony could sell the PS3 for blu-ray alone. (which wouldnt be good for there gaming division, because you need people to buy games.)

3. Six Axis potential: now this is a bit of a confusing matter to me. Why would sony pimp this tilt thing if half there games dont even use it or when they use it, they hardly utilize it. Luckly, games like Lair and War Hawk should make EXCELLENT use of the six axis. THe potential is there.

4. THere is going to be a price drop: I laugh my arse off at people on system wars that say, "Its 600 dollars! Fission Mailed SONY!" There is going to be a price drop people. Once the console gets around 400 (maybe 500) we may see PS2 owners coming to the PS3. So please dont be foolish enough to think its going to be 600 dollars forever.

black_awpN1

1. The 360 has a game to match every game you listed that are equaly as good.
2. PS3 is really batting 2 pitchers at once. It has the Movie industry its trying to conquer as well as the gaming. Its a Win/lose situation..not a Win/win. Right now, it makes for a better BD player than gaming device especially since the competition is outselling it atleast 2 to 1.
3. There aren't many games that utilize this feature like they could. It is in many ways like the eyetoy where they had to release games specifically for it, not as a feature in a game itself. There really isn't a reason to utilize it with it being so limited compared to the Wii-mote, I'm not sure why the rushed this as a feature trying to combat Ninty or their leagal issues with Immersion.
4.The better experience can be found on X360 but at a cheaper price, why would they wait on PS3's price to drop?

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Everytime Im on System Wars I always see threads like "PS3 MASSIVE FAILURES!!!LOL!!!!11oneoneone" ... its not even been out too long, and why would you want it to fail in the first place? I for one love Playstation's exclusive franchises, and beleive they are the reason PS3 wont fail :D Lookin forward to SOCOM and God of War 3!
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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

(Please note that these are mme personal opinons, and is no way shape or form fanbbyoism. So dont scrutinize me, you System War Jackels!)

Here is my reasons why the PS3 will not be a failure and will not "die".

1. Games: Yes we all knows the story. "ZOMG DMC4 on 360!" But ypour forgetting theres franchises thst are coming to the PS3 that you will never see on the 360. (Ratchet and clank, Tekken, Killzone, Jak and daxter, SOCOM, FF games (excluding 11), and every first party game. PS2 had soooo many killer franchises that will more or less transfer over to this gen.

2. Blu-Ray built in: note that this only applies if you care for HD videos. PS3 is one of th echepest blu-ray players out there. and it also plays games to boot. So when Blu-Ray wins, people are going to look for the cheapest way to get blu-ray (again, people who care about it) Imagine there surprise when they find out there Blu-Ray player plays games. I for one dont think Blu-ray is necessary for this gen, but its great for movies. If anything, sony could sell the PS3 for blu-ray alone. (which wouldnt be good for there gaming division, because you need people to buy games.)

3. Six Axis potential: now this is a bit of a confusing matter to me. Why would sony pimp this tilt thing if half there games dont even use it or when they use it, they hardly utilize it. Luckly, games like Lair and War Hawk should make EXCELLENT use of the six axis. THe potential is there.

4. THere is going to be a price drop: I laugh my arse off at people on system wars that say, "Its 600 dollars! Fission Mailed SONY!" There is going to be a price drop people. Once the console gets around 400 (maybe 500) we may see PS2 owners coming to the PS3. So please dont be foolish enough to think its going to be 600 dollars forever.

Pro_wrestler

1. The 360 has a game to match every game you listed that are equaly as good.
2. PS3 is really batting 2 pitchers at once. It has the Movie industry its trying to conquer as well as the gaming. Its a Win/lose situation..not a Win/win. Right now, it makes for a better BD player than gaming device especially since the competition is outselling it atleast 2 to 1.
3. There aren't many games that utilize this feature like they could. It is in many ways like the eyetoy where they had to release games specifically for it, not as a feature in a game itself. There really isn't a reason to utilize it with it being so limited compared to the Wii-mote, I'm not sure why the rushed this as a feature trying to combat Ninty or their leagal issues with Immersion.
4.The better experience can be found on X360 but at a cheaper price, why would they wait on PS3's price to drop?

Did you not read my second post. I am in no way or form comparing it to the 360. So please dont take it upon yourself to make it so. I am merely stating what I think the PS3s main streangths are. Do not turn this into a "oh, but the 360 has this better than the PS3" type of thread. I dont care about the 360 in this thread.

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1.) This isn't like PS2 to Xbox as it was last-gen; the 360 has really improved on the franchise area and can pretty much go head-to-head with the PS3.

2.) In number four you're talking price drops. Who's to say a Blu-ray player won't eventually be cheaper than a PS3 due to a PRICE DROP?

3.) The potential is there, but hardly a selling point. The Wii remote is a selling point because it is used in so many games. SIXAXIS? Not so much. This was more of a "me, too!" motion sensing effort on Sony's part.

4.) The PS3 won't be the only console that has a price drop. The other two companies will drop their prices in order to keep their consoles lower priced than the PS3, as it is now. Whether the price will still be dramatically different remains to be seen.

It seems to me when you made this thread you didn't factor in that there are two other consoles.

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1.) This isn't like PS2 to Xbox as it was last-gen; the 360 has really improved on the franchise area and can pretty much go head-to-head with the PS3.

2.) In number four you're talking price drops. Who's to say a Blu-ray player won't eventually be cheaper than a PS3 due to a PRICE DROP?

3.) The potential is there, but hardly a selling point. The Wii remote is a selling point because it is used in so many games. SIXAXIS? Not so much. This was more of a "me, too!" motion sensing effort on Sony's part.

4.) The PS3 won't be the only console that has a price drop. The other two companies will drop their prices in order to keep their consoles lower priced than the PS3, as it is now. Whether the price will still be dramatically different remains to be seen.

It seems to me when you made this thread you didn't factor in that there are two other consoles.

-The-G-Man-

Or maybe I didnt care to compare the consoles in this thread. This is just what I believe its streangths are. Never did I say, "this is why its better than ______" You guys just took it upon yourselfs to make this into a PS3 vs thread. I didnt mention the other consoles because there irrelevant to this thread. THis is a thread about why the PS3 isnt going to fail or die.

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Or maybe I didnt care to compare the consoles in this thread. This is just what I believe its streangths are. Never did I say, "this is why its better than ______" You guys just took it upon yourselfs to make this into a PS3 vs thread. I didnt mention the other consoles because there irrelevant to this thread. THis is a thread about why the PS3 isnt going to fail or die. black_awpN1

You're telling me the other consoles would have nothing to do the PS3's possibility of dying? Other consoles are MAJOR, MAJOR factors in another console's sales, which translates to success.

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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]Or maybe I didnt care to compare the consoles in this thread. This is just what I believe its streangths are. Never did I say, "this is why its better than ______" You guys just took it upon yourselfs to make this into a PS3 vs thread. I didnt mention the other consoles because there irrelevant to this thread. THis is a thread about why the PS3 isnt going to fail or die. -The-G-Man-

You're telling me the other consoles would have nothing to do the PS3's possibility of dying? Other consoles are MAJOR, MAJOR factors in another console's sales, which translates to success.

I merely am stating what I think its streangths are. Nothing more and nothing less. I thought that maybe others could add to that list, instead of trying to bring it down.

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#26 -The-G-Man-
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]Or maybe I didnt care to compare the consoles in this thread. This is just what I believe its streangths are. Never did I say, "this is why its better than ______" You guys just took it upon yourselfs to make this into a PS3 vs thread. I didnt mention the other consoles because there irrelevant to this thread. THis is a thread about why the PS3 isnt going to fail or die. black_awpN1

You're telling me the other consoles would have nothing to do the PS3's possibility of dying? Other consoles are MAJOR, MAJOR factors in another console's sales, which translates to success.

I merely am stating what I think its streangths are. Nothing more and nothing less. I thought that maybe others could add to that list, instead of trying to bring it down.

Then go to the PS3 forum.

The fact remains that you can't say a console will or will not fail based strictly only on its strengths; you have to factor in its weaknesses and the other consoles.

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#27 Heil68
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I hope it' doesn't, I don't want to see any console fail.
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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]Or maybe I didnt care to compare the consoles in this thread. This is just what I believe its streangths are. Never did I say, "this is why its better than ______" You guys just took it upon yourselfs to make this into a PS3 vs thread. I didnt mention the other consoles because there irrelevant to this thread. THis is a thread about why the PS3 isnt going to fail or die. -The-G-Man-

You're telling me the other consoles would have nothing to do the PS3's possibility of dying? Other consoles are MAJOR, MAJOR factors in another console's sales, which translates to success.

I merely am stating what I think its streangths are. Nothing more and nothing less. I thought that maybe others could add to that list, instead of trying to bring it down.

Then go to the PS3 forum.

The fact remains that you can't say a console will or will not fail based strictly only on its strengths; you have to factor in its weaknesses and the other consoles.

ok, fine. The console does have weaknes's. I merely created this thread because i am tired of people thinking the PS3 is gonna die and fail like the Dreamcast. ITs not going to.

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#29 -The-G-Man-
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ok, fine. The console does have weaknes's. I merely created this thread because i am tired of people thinking the PS3 is gonna die and fail like the Dreamcast. ITs not going to. black_awpN1

But what do you base this on?

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#30 zaman48
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I hope it' doesn't, I don't want to see any console fail.Heil68

same here, competition is better for the consumer

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#31 black_awpN1
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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]ok, fine. The console does have weaknes's. I merely created this thread because i am tired of people thinking the PS3 is gonna die and fail like the Dreamcast. ITs not going to. -The-G-Man-

But what do you base this on?

what do I base the "its not going to fail like the dreamcast" part on? I just listed it in my thread. On that note: people think the PS3 is going to fail, based on what?

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#32 -The-G-Man-
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]ok, fine. The console does have weaknes's. I merely created this thread because i am tired of people thinking the PS3 is gonna die and fail like the Dreamcast. ITs not going to. black_awpN1

But what do you base this on?

what do I base the "its not going to fail like the dreamcast" part on? I just listed it in my thread. On that note: people think the PS3 is going to fail, based on what?

Again, I'm back to "you can't base ANYTHING on what you listed because you only listed the strengths, not weaknesses." For a logical prediction, you have to factor in the weaknesses, which I have listed and counter everything you listed.

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#33 black_awpN1
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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]ok, fine. The console does have weaknes's. I merely created this thread because i am tired of people thinking the PS3 is gonna die and fail like the Dreamcast. ITs not going to. -The-G-Man-

But what do you base this on?

what do I base the "its not going to fail like the dreamcast" part on? I just listed it in my thread. On that note: people think the PS3 is going to fail, based on what?

Again, I'm back to "you can't base ANYTHING on what you listed because you only listed the strengths, not weaknesses." For a logical prediction, you have to factor in the weaknesses, which I have listed and counter everything you listed.

Touch'e G-man. Fine. lets all agree that I forgot to list its weakness's thus rendering any way of telling whether what I listed as streanths or not irrelevant.

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#34 FatalDomain
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(Please note that these are mme personal opinons, and is no way shape or form fanbbyoism. So dont scrutinize me, you System War Jackels!)

Here is my reasons why the PS3 will not be a failure and will not "die".

1. Games: Yes we all knows the story. "ZOMG DMC4 on 360!" But ypour forgetting theres franchises thst are coming to the PS3 that you will never see on the 360. (Ratchet and clank, Tekken, Killzone, Jak and daxter, SOCOM, FF games (excluding 11), and every first party game. PS2 had soooo many killer franchises that will more or less transfer over to this gen.

2. Blu-Ray built in: note that this only applies if you care for HD videos. PS3 is one of th echepest blu-ray players out there. and it also plays games to boot. So when Blu-Ray wins, people are going to look for the cheapest way to get blu-ray (again, people who care about it) Imagine there surprise when they find out there Blu-Ray player plays games. I for one dont think Blu-ray is necessary for this gen, but its great for movies. If anything, sony could sell the PS3 for blu-ray alone. (which wouldnt be good for there gaming division, because you need people to buy games.)

3. Six Axis potential: now this is a bit of a confusing matter to me. Why would sony pimp this tilt thing if half there games dont even use it or when they use it, they hardly utilize it. Luckly, games like Lair and War Hawk should make EXCELLENT use of the six axis. THe potential is there.

4. THere is going to be a price drop: I laugh my arse off at people on system wars that say, "Its 600 dollars! Fission Mailed SONY!" There is going to be a price drop people. Once the console gets around 400 (maybe 500) we may see PS2 owners coming to the PS3. So please dont be foolish enough to think its going to be 600 dollars forever.

black_awpN1

Well written and a sound theory, but there is one major problem......This would have been applicable if posted shortly after E3 06!!! The reality is the PS3 is doing horribly in all markets (as of today!!) and until Sony makes some major overhauls either to the system, marketing or other, the PS3 will continue down its path of failure.

Many people on these boards will say "give the system some time", well the reality again is....Sony is running out of time. E3 07 will be a good indicator whether or not Sony will have a competitive system this gen, or a niche system dropped from the spotlight but considered a collectable by console enthusiasts...

Game On...

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#35 black_awpN1
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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

(Please note that these are mme personal opinons, and is no way shape or form fanbbyoism. So dont scrutinize me, you System War Jackels!)

Here is my reasons why the PS3 will not be a failure and will not "die".

1. Games: Yes we all knows the story. "ZOMG DMC4 on 360!" But ypour forgetting theres franchises thst are coming to the PS3 that you will never see on the 360. (Ratchet and clank, Tekken, Killzone, Jak and daxter, SOCOM, FF games (excluding 11), and every first party game. PS2 had soooo many killer franchises that will more or less transfer over to this gen.

2. Blu-Ray built in: note that this only applies if you care for HD videos. PS3 is one of th echepest blu-ray players out there. and it also plays games to boot. So when Blu-Ray wins, people are going to look for the cheapest way to get blu-ray (again, people who care about it) Imagine there surprise when they find out there Blu-Ray player plays games. I for one dont think Blu-ray is necessary for this gen, but its great for movies. If anything, sony could sell the PS3 for blu-ray alone. (which wouldnt be good for there gaming division, because you need people to buy games.)

3. Six Axis potential: now this is a bit of a confusing matter to me. Why would sony pimp this tilt thing if half there games dont even use it or when they use it, they hardly utilize it. Luckly, games like Lair and War Hawk should make EXCELLENT use of the six axis. THe potential is there.

4. THere is going to be a price drop: I laugh my arse off at people on system wars that say, "Its 600 dollars! Fission Mailed SONY!" There is going to be a price drop people. Once the console gets around 400 (maybe 500) we may see PS2 owners coming to the PS3. So please dont be foolish enough to think its going to be 600 dollars forever.

FatalDomain

Well written and a sound theory, but there is one major problem......This would have been applicable if posted shortly after E3 06!!! The reality is the PS3 is doing horribly in all markets (as of today!!) and until Sony makes some major overhauls either to the system, marketing or other, the PS3 will continue down its path of failure.

Many people on these boards will say "give the system some time", well the reality again is....Sony is running out of time. E3 07 will be a good indicator whether or not Sony will have a competitive system this gen, or a niche system dropped from the spotlight but considered a collectable by console enthusiasts...

Game On...

Sony at E3 07 has the potential to have a great showing (like E3 2005) or the potential to screw up like at E3 2006.

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it hasnt failed yet - but if current trends continue it could be on its way.
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#37 FatalDomain
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[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

(Please note that these are mme personal opinons, and is no way shape or form fanbbyoism. So dont scrutinize me, you System War Jackels!)

Here is my reasons why the PS3 will not be a failure and will not "die".

1. Games: Yes we all knows the story. "ZOMG DMC4 on 360!" But ypour forgetting theres franchises thst are coming to the PS3 that you will never see on the 360. (Ratchet and clank, Tekken, Killzone, Jak and daxter, SOCOM, FF games (excluding 11), and every first party game. PS2 had soooo many killer franchises that will more or less transfer over to this gen.

2. Blu-Ray built in: note that this only applies if you care for HD videos. PS3 is one of th echepest blu-ray players out there. and it also plays games to boot. So when Blu-Ray wins, people are going to look for the cheapest way to get blu-ray (again, people who care about it) Imagine there surprise when they find out there Blu-Ray player plays games. I for one dont think Blu-ray is necessary for this gen, but its great for movies. If anything, sony could sell the PS3 for blu-ray alone. (which wouldnt be good for there gaming division, because you need people to buy games.)

3. Six Axis potential: now this is a bit of a confusing matter to me. Why would sony pimp this tilt thing if half there games dont even use it or when they use it, they hardly utilize it. Luckly, games like Lair and War Hawk should make EXCELLENT use of the six axis. THe potential is there.

4. THere is going to be a price drop: I laugh my arse off at people on system wars that say, "Its 600 dollars! Fission Mailed SONY!" There is going to be a price drop people. Once the console gets around 400 (maybe 500) we may see PS2 owners coming to the PS3. So please dont be foolish enough to think its going to be 600 dollars forever.

black_awpN1

Well written and a sound theory, but there is one major problem......This would have been applicable if posted shortly after E3 06!!! The reality is the PS3 is doing horribly in all markets (as of today!!) and until Sony makes some major overhauls either to the system, marketing or other, the PS3 will continue down its path of failure.

Many people on these boards will say "give the system some time", well the reality again is....Sony is running out of time. E3 07 will be a good indicator whether or not Sony will have a competitive system this gen, or a niche system dropped from the spotlight but considered a collectable by console enthusiasts...

Game On...

Sony at E3 07 has the potential to have a great showing (like E3 2005) or the potential to screw up like at E3 2006.

In all honesty thats the pickle Sony has gotten itself into with the PS3, they are currently in a make-or-break situation and its usually a formula for failure. Sony can have a good/decent show at E3 07, but decent is not enough to change their position this gen....Sony needs to have a flawless performance this year to turn things around. Not that it is impossible to do, just extremely difficult!!! While MS and Ninty can have normal performances at E3, (a little Halo here, a little Mario there) Sony will have to come out in a full rage of software, features, innovations, and shocking announcements to have a successful E3....Unfortunately that doesnt seem possible given the current condition of Sony and the PS3.

Game On...