Red Ring of Death is Alive and Well

My 2nd Xbox 360 just RRoD'd for the 2nd time. No, I'm not saying this is my 2nd RRoD, I'm saying that I own 2 Xbox 360's, and #2 just RRoD'd after coming back from repair less than 3 months after going in.

Let me give you all a little bit of background on this:

I purchased an Xbox 360 Pro at launch. It lasted about a year until I got my first RRoD on it. Instead of waiting for Microsoft to repair it, I bought a 2nd Xbox 360 (Core) to use in the mean time. Well, because I only need 1 Xbox 360 at a time, when I got my Pro system back, I put the Core system away. So about a year ago, my Pro system starts getting disk read errors. So I switch back to my core system and keep playing. Unfortunately, my core system starts freezing up on me. Because it wasn't giving me RRoD (it was freezing, i.e. going to RRoD soon) Microsoft made me pay $100 to get it repaired since it was out of warranty (the 3 years apparently ONLY covers RRoD). So fine, they charge me $100, and that was like 3 months ago. Well today, it started locking up on Gears of War. About 30 minutes later, I get the RRoD.

So now, after buying 2 Xbox 360's, after getting each repaired once, having to pay $100 for one of those repairs, I now again have 2 broken Xbox 360's. I'm so pissed off right now. I love the Xbox 360 but Microsoft has not done right by me. So I'm sorry but I have to let you all know that if you are thinking of buying one of these $299 360's, I would say don't waste your money.

Whats ironic is that a few hours ago I made a thread telling people if they don't have a 360 already, they need to get one at that price. Sorry to say, after Microsoft's utter inability to provide their loyal customers with reliable hardware, I cannot make that recommendation in the least.

Microsoft, if you're reading this, you need to wake up. I have doubts that I'll ever buy another Microsoft console again.

This thread is distinctly ironic. How would a Ring of Death be Alive?

Witchcraft I say!

I know you.

You are famous around here for PS3 bashing.

The title is misleading. Microsoft has quelled most of the problems. You're thread insinuates that Microsoft has yet to fix the problem. Yet your 360's are both well over a year old. The first being purchased late 2005 and the other one roughly late 2006. I havent heard many issues with consoles that were manufactured in 2007 and beyond.

I think the old ones are just bound to break...

So I dont think the Red Ring is as alive and well as you say it is.

I know you.

You are famous around here for PS3 bashing.

Ninten007

Actually I dislike the Wii more than my PS3. But I'm an equal opportunity basher. At least the 360 fanboys can't call me a fakeboy. I've been a huge 360 advocate on here... Not any more. Microsoft has done a lot of wrong by me and its going to take quite a bit from them to make me think they are doing something about this.

This thread is distinctly ironic. How would a Ring of Death be Alive?

Witchcraft I say!

thrones

Burn the Witch!!! * In my Triston voice from Yu-Gi-Oh the Abridged Series*

The title is misleading. Microsoft has quelled most of the problems. You're thread insinuates that Microsoft has yet to fix the problem. Yet your 360's are both well over a year old. The first being purchased late 2005 and the other one roughly late 2006. I havent heard many issues with consoles that were manufactured in 2007 and beyond.

I think the old ones are just bound to break...

So I dont think the Red Ring is as alive and well as you say it is.

hiho24

Wrong my friend. You NEVER get the same Xbox hardware back from repair. You get refurbished TRASH. You call that fixing the RROD? You think all those 20GB Xbox 360's out there have fancy new hardware in them that fixes anything? Don't be fooled.

[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

I know you.

You are famous around here for PS3 bashing.

WillieBeamish

Actually I dislike the Wii more than my PS3. But I'm an equal opportunity basher. At least the 360 fanboys can't call me a fakeboy. I've been a huge 360 advocate on here... Not any more. Microsoft has done a lot of wrong by me and its going to take quite a bit from them to make me think they are doing something about this.

So you were fine with this as long as it wasn't happening to you?

Way to go for breaking your 360 and making yourself pay 100$ each time. Maybe you should take more care of your expensive electronics.diped

My 360's have been taken care of immaculately. Stop being such a fanboy. All Lemmings know that 360 hardware is the most faulty ever made in video game history. Why would you try to pretend you know who I am and how I take care of my hardware to defend this?

[QUOTE="hiho24"]

The title is misleading. Microsoft has quelled most of the problems. You're thread insinuates that Microsoft has yet to fix the problem. Yet your 360's are both well over a year old. The first being purchased late 2005 and the other one roughly late 2006. I havent heard many issues with consoles that were manufactured in 2007 and beyond.

I think the old ones are just bound to break...

So I dont think the Red Ring is as alive and well as you say it is.

WillieBeamish

Wrong my friend. You NEVER get the same Xbox hardware back from repair. You get refurbished TRASH. You call that fixing the RROD? You think all those 20GB Xbox 360's out there have fancy new hardware in them that fixes anything? Don't be fooled.

What? I said that systems built in 2007 have had very little problems with the RROD. I'm not talking about refurbs.

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]

I know you.

You are famous around here for PS3 bashing.

Ragnarok1051

Actually I dislike the Wii more than my PS3. But I'm an equal opportunity basher. At least the 360 fanboys can't call me a fakeboy. I've been a huge 360 advocate on here... Not any more. Microsoft has done a lot of wrong by me and its going to take quite a bit from them to make me think they are doing something about this.

So you were fine with this as long as it wasn't happening to you?

I was never fine with it. My Xbox broke once, I can overlook that. A 2nd one breaks, then I get a little pissed off but hey, I can forgive.. A 3rd & a 4th time, that's flat-out negligence on Microsoft's part.

[QUOTE="diped"]Way to go for breaking your 360 and making yourself pay 100$ each time. Maybe you should take more care of your expensive electronics.WillieBeamish

My 360's have been taken care of immaculately. Stop being such a fanboy. All Lemmings know that 360 hardware is the most faulty ever made in video game history. Why would you try to pretend you know who I am and how I take care of my hardware to defend this?

You already answered it.

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="hiho24"]

The title is misleading. Microsoft has quelled most of the problems. You're thread insinuates that Microsoft has yet to fix the problem. Yet your 360's are both well over a year old. The first being purchased late 2005 and the other one roughly late 2006. I havent heard many issues with consoles that were manufactured in 2007 and beyond.

I think the old ones are just bound to break...

So I dont think the Red Ring is as alive and well as you say it is.

hiho24

Wrong my friend. You NEVER get the same Xbox hardware back from repair. You get refurbished TRASH. You call that fixing the RROD? You think all those 20GB Xbox 360's out there have fancy new hardware in them that fixes anything? Don't be fooled.

What? I said that systems built in 2007 have had very little problems with the RROD. I'm not talking about refurbs.

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="hiho24"]

The title is misleading. Microsoft has quelled most of the problems. You're thread insinuates that Microsoft has yet to fix the problem. Yet your 360's are both well over a year old. The first being purchased late 2005 and the other one roughly late 2006. I havent heard many issues with consoles that were manufactured in 2007 and beyond.

I think the old ones are just bound to break...

So I dont think the Red Ring is as alive and well as you say it is.

hiho24

Wrong my friend. You NEVER get the same Xbox hardware back from repair. You get refurbished TRASH. You call that fixing the RROD? You think all those 20GB Xbox 360's out there have fancy new hardware in them that fixes anything? Don't be fooled.

What? I said that systems built in 2007 have had very little problems with the RROD. I'm not talking about refurbs.

So its OK for Microsoft to give you refurbished trash? That's how they repay all the early adopters that ensured their current success? If they fixed the hardware, they should be giving that out to the people who've had to deal with the problem of having to go through the repair process multiple times to begin with.

Way to go for breaking your 360 and making yourself pay 100$ each time. Maybe you should take more care of your expensive electronics.diped

[QUOTE="hiho24"]

The title is misleading. Microsoft has quelled most of the problems. You're thread insinuates that Microsoft has yet to fix the problem. Yet your 360's are both well over a year old. The first being purchased late 2005 and the other one roughly late 2006. I havent heard many issues with consoles that were manufactured in 2007 and beyond.

I think the old ones are just bound to break...

So I dont think the Red Ring is as alive and well as you say it is.

WillieBeamish

Wrong my friend. You NEVER get the same Xbox hardware back from repair. You get refurbished TRASH. You call that fixing the RROD? You think all those 20GB Xbox 360's out there have fancy new hardware in them that fixes anything? Don't be fooled.

The Zombie 360s are actually uch improved over the original hardware.

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="hiho24"]

The title is misleading. Microsoft has quelled most of the problems. You're thread insinuates that Microsoft has yet to fix the problem. Yet your 360's are both well over a year old. The first being purchased late 2005 and the other one roughly late 2006. I havent heard many issues with consoles that were manufactured in 2007 and beyond.

I think the old ones are just bound to break...

So I dont think the Red Ring is as alive and well as you say it is.

SpruceCaboose

Wrong my friend. You NEVER get the same Xbox hardware back from repair. You get refurbished TRASH. You call that fixing the RROD? You think all those 20GB Xbox 360's out there have fancy new hardware in them that fixes anything? Don't be fooled.

The Zombie 360s are actually uch improved over the original hardware.

Then explain why the 360 I got back from repair 2 months ago RRoD'd even though its been in a room that never gets above 72 degrees, with plenty of circulation around it and free of lint, dust, moisture, & direct sunlight. This thing has been treated above and beyond what any sensitive piece of electronic gear should require to run for many years.

hey call up ms and say becuase they f-uped your going to buy a ps3. i heard of people doing this and ms bend over backward for them, and maybe you should get a ps3 hey at least it doesn't break. sireclaborn

I have a PS3 already. Too bad it doesn't play Xbox DVD's. That would solve my problem right there. And if MS DOESN'T bend over backwards for me, I'll be selling every 360 related item that I own.

Then explain why the 360 I got back from repair 2 months ago RRoD'd even though its been in a room that never gets above 72 degrees, with plenty of circulation around it and free of lint, dust, moisture, & direct sunlight. This thing has been treated above and beyond what any sensitive piece of electronic gear should require to run for many years.

WillieBeamish

Things break. I am telling you that there have been pieces added to them to help alleviate issues. I never said they were perfect.

the only people who say that ms is fixing rrod is lems. when everyone knows that ms isn't doing crap. if they were 360 wouldn't break. when someone 360 breaks lems blame it on the user. why i don't know its foolishness. don't you think its enough. i sue the hell at of ms.(hint)

[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]hey call up ms and say becuase they f-uped your going to buy a ps3. i heard of people doing this and ms bend over backward for them, and maybe you should get a ps3 hey at least it doesn't break. WillieBeamish

I have a PS3 already. Too bad it doesn't play Xbox DVD's. That would solve my problem right there. And if MS DOESN'T bend over backwards for me, I'll be selling every 360 related item that I own.

You selling cheap? I could use more games and accessories on the cheap.

[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]hey call up ms and say becuase they f-uped your going to buy a ps3. i heard of people doing this and ms bend over backward for them, and maybe you should get a ps3 hey at least it doesn't break. WillieBeamish

I have a PS3 already. Too bad it doesn't play Xbox DVD's. That would solve my problem right there. And if MS DOESN'T bend over backwards for me, I'll be selling every 360 related item that I own.

tell them that.. if everyone called ms and cursed them out... they would do something.

the only people who say that ms is fixing rrod is lems. when everyone knows that ms isn't doing crap. if they were 360 wouldn't break. when someone 360 breaks lems blame it on the user. why i don't know its foolishness. don't you think its enough. i sue the hell at of ms.(hint)

sireclaborn

MS has put in things to fix the issue. Only people who say they have done nothing are people not familiar with the inner workings and hardware revisions of the 360s. I would link you to sites that deal with that, but GS has those against its ToU and I am not getting modded for it.

And MS is being sued, and they are neither the first nor, I am sure, the last hardware maker to be sued over performance issues.

[QUOTE="hiho24"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="hiho24"]

The title is misleading. Microsoft has quelled most of the problems. You're thread insinuates that Microsoft has yet to fix the problem. Yet your 360's are both well over a year old. The first being purchased late 2005 and the other one roughly late 2006. I havent heard many issues with consoles that were manufactured in 2007 and beyond.

I think the old ones are just bound to break...

So I dont think the Red Ring is as alive and well as you say it is.

ninjaxams

Wrong my friend. You NEVER get the same Xbox hardware back from repair. You get refurbished TRASH. You call that fixing the RROD? You think all those 20GB Xbox 360's out there have fancy new hardware in them that fixes anything? Don't be fooled.

What? I said that systems built in 2007 have had very little problems with the RROD. I'm not talking about refurbs.

Geez whats with the scrutiny here? Its like people get offended with me saying that Microsoft seems to have worked some of the problems out. I said that I heard very little on issues with newer consoles. I didnt say that they none would red ring, however I highly doubt all of them will. :roll:

[QUOTE="hiho24"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="hiho24"]

The title is misleading. Microsoft has quelled most of the problems. You're thread insinuates that Microsoft has yet to fix the problem. Yet your 360's are both well over a year old. The first being purchased late 2005 and the other one roughly late 2006. I havent heard many issues with consoles that were manufactured in 2007 and beyond.

I think the old ones are just bound to break...

So I dont think the Red Ring is as alive and well as you say it is.

WillieBeamish

Wrong my friend. You NEVER get the same Xbox hardware back from repair. You get refurbished TRASH. You call that fixing the RROD? You think all those 20GB Xbox 360's out there have fancy new hardware in them that fixes anything? Don't be fooled.

What? I said that systems built in 2007 have had very little problems with the RROD. I'm not talking about refurbs.

So its OK for Microsoft to give you refurbished trash? That's how they repay all the early adopters that ensured their current success? If they fixed the hardware, they should be giving that out to the people who've had to deal with the problem of having to go through the repair process multiple times to begin with.

Hey, it's the way they do business. I'm sure their customers are happy to put up with this otherwise we would have seem mass law suits like the ones that forced Sony to fix the Ps2 DRE problem.

If you RROD'ed, send it to microsoft, they will fix it. If it didn't, stop complaining. New 360's have falcon chip which greatly reduces RROD. Uninformed fanboys crying about their pre-falcon 360 and blaming microsoft for "not doing anything" because their pre-falcon 360 broke is laughable.

Don't bother posting about RROD here, all you'll get is a bunch of Lemmings in damage control claiming that Microsoft already fixed the problem or you broke it yourself.

[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

I know you.

You are famous around here for PS3 bashing.

WillieBeamish

Actually I dislike the Wii more than my PS3. But I'm an equal opportunity basher. At least the 360 fanboys can't call me a fakeboy. I've been a huge 360 advocate on here... Not any more. Microsoft has done a lot of wrong by me and its going to take quite a bit from them to make me think they are doing something about this.

O so you bought a ps3 because you dislike it? Hmmm you sound a lot like that nitiz guy..

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="hiho24"]

The title is misleading. Microsoft has quelled most of the problems. You're thread insinuates that Microsoft has yet to fix the problem. Yet your 360's are both well over a year old. The first being purchased late 2005 and the other one roughly late 2006. I havent heard many issues with consoles that were manufactured in 2007 and beyond.

I think the old ones are just bound to break...

So I dont think the Red Ring is as alive and well as you say it is.

SpruceCaboose

Wrong my friend. You NEVER get the same Xbox hardware back from repair. You get refurbished TRASH. You call that fixing the RROD? You think all those 20GB Xbox 360's out there have fancy new hardware in them that fixes anything? Don't be fooled.

The Zombie 360s are actually uch improved over the original hardware.

If you RROD'ed, send it to microsoft, they will fix it. If it didn't, stop complaining. New 360's have falcon chip which greatly reduces RROD. Uninformed fanboys crying about their pre-falcon 360 and blaming microsoft for "not doing anything" because their pre-falcon 360 broke is laughable.

death919

If the falcon chip is that good why do they want to add the jasper chip? gimme a break..

Why do people think we care about this? Blog it.heretrix

Looking at the replies in this topic, people do care about this subject.

The title is misleading. Microsoft has quelled most of the problems. You're thread insinuates that Microsoft has yet to fix the problem. Yet your 360's are both well over a year old. The first being purchased late 2005 and the other one roughly late 2006. I havent heard many issues with consoles that were manufactured in 2007 and beyond.

I think the old ones are just bound to break...

So I dont think the Red Ring is as alive and well as you say it is.

hiho24

OK, u can just keep believing that

Red Ring of Death is Alive and Well WillieBeamish

every week there's another one of these .. it's better to blog it

we know that RROD is still gonna affect some consoles

I remember reading an article posted on SW that explained the RROD could be caused by any general hardware failure, not just the overheating of the processor. Although the processor was the most common cause, the overall design of the BOX is so poor that nothing short of a complete overhaul would be enough to truly eliminate the RROD because there are so many design flaws. I'll post a link if I can find it. Maybe someone else remembers????

The point being, RROD will never die and we are just going to have to accept it as a part of the 360. I think I'm finally ready to pick one up after the price drop, and I'll just cross my fingers and hope I get one of the good ones. I've been waiting for some kind of definitive hardware solution to convince me that it's safe, but I just don't see that happening. MS has definitely made changes to try and deal with this and I think we can be sure their next console will be much, much better, but for now I think the price drop will just have to do.

BTW, despite my low post count I have been reading this board and been a member since 2002, and I am shocked to see this post from Williebeamish. WB, I suggest you refer Microsoft to your post history on this board. Losing a supporter like you will be a sobering message to them of just how bad this mess is getting.:P

my 360 is currently in its cardboard coffin awaiting shipment to its repair center in texas

its an inconvenience. a great and unacceptable one. however, i feel the 360's library is of such a quality that im willing to put up with the frustration. its just unfair that we have to

my 360 is currently in its cardboard coffin awaiting shipment to its repair center in texas

its an inconvenience. a great and unacceptable one. however, i feel the 360's library is of such a quality that im willing to put up with the frustration. its just unfair that we have to

REforever101

If I didn't have a total disregard for playing games on the PC, I'd have very little reason to continue owning one.

This thread is distinctly ironic. How would a Ring of Death be Alive?

Witchcraft I say!

thrones

Ironic?

This thread is distinctly ironic. How would a Ring of Death be Alive?

Witchcraft I say!

thrones