Red Steel 2 is a major flop. Only sold 50k. UbiTrash's karma.

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#1 runbleduck
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Who didn't see this trainwreck coming? Bad sequel to an abysmal game is bound to crash in sales chart, and to think some of you defended it with 'oh atleast it's better than the first awful game!'. It didn't even crack the top 20 in its debut month, and performed worse than MadWorld. Guess this is what UbiTrash deserved for burning over a million people with their first abysmal Red Steel game. The nerve of UbiTrash for thinking they can fool the mass again with this tarnished franchise. Admit it silly Red Steel fans, this lousy franchise is officially dead. Good riddance.

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#2 psn8214
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Oh my... what did Ubisoft ever do to you?

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#3 Chemical_Viking
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Adverts were everywhere too so I hope no one bothers with that excuse this time. Uninspiring, bland graphics, silly story and setting, and to top it all off, the wrong console to put it on.

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#4 treedoor
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First one sold as a launch title that was supposed to demonstrate what the Wii was capable of in motion control.

But it's so odd. I mean sure it sold well, but even Ubi should have seen that with how badly it got reviewed that a sequel would be far too risky. They should have noted it as an isolated incident. A game selling well because it's a launch title, and that's that. Just like Perfect Dark Zero sold well when it was bad.

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#5 haziqonfire
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Its based on 12 days of data. Not saying its not a 'sales' flop .. but 12 days is nothing. Wait for a full month's worth of sales data, then we'll see what its like.
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#6 gamefan67
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Its based on 12 days of data. Not saying its not a 'sales' flop .. but 12 days is nothing. Wait for a full month's worth of sales data, then we'll see what its like.

This........and from what I heard NPD numbers dont include Canada and they darn sure dont include Europe. I see the game selling around 300k by the end of the year (still a flop).
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#7 shadow_hosi
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Oh my... what did Ubisoft ever do to you?

psn8214
rainbow six assasin's creed lies conviction farcry 2
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#8 silversix_
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If i owned a wii and wasn't following reviews (casual gamer) i would never buy RedSteel2 knowing how bad the first was. Won't be surprised if its a major sale flop.
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#9 psn8214
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

Oh my... what did Ubisoft ever do to you?

shadow_hosi

rainbow six assasin's creed lies conviction farcry 2

Eh, fair enough, although I enjoyed Far Cry 2 and Assassin's... :P

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#10 GunSmith1_basic
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it's also a wiimotionplus game so maybe that's limiting potential sales base.
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#11 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

Oh my... what did Ubisoft ever do to you?

psn8214

rainbow six assasin's creed lies conviction farcry 2

Eh, fair enough, although I enjoyed Far Cry 2 and Assassin's... :P

assasins creed was 90% lies farcry 2 just plain sucked, i got it free and could only tolerate it for about 5 mins
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#12 Dead-Memories
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damn well it had a lot of ads I see, surprised at the low sales.

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#13 LegatoSkyheart
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It's not like everybody has Money to spend every day you know. The game came out when Final Fantasy XIII and God of War 3 came out, it never stood a chance.

and this IS a shame. Red Steel 2 is the only Motion Control Sword Game right now. Now I know that the only reason why this didn't sale is because it's on the Wii.

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#14 haziqonfire
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it's also a wiimotionplus game so maybe that's limiting potential sales base. GunSmith1_basic
MotionPlus came with Wii Sports Resort.. which sold around 14 Million copies.. along with other titles like Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 that had it as a pack-in, Red Steel and people buying secondary MotionPlus units, I'm sure userbase isn't a problem.
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#15 psn8214
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assasins creed was 90% lies farcry 2 just plain sucked, i got it free and could only tolerate it for about 5 minsshadow_hosi

I think in both cases the setting was what drew me in, and kept me coming back.

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#16 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]assasins creed was 90% lies farcry 2 just plain sucked, i got it free and could only tolerate it for about 5 minspsn8214

I think in both cases the setting was what drew me in, and kept me coming back.

farcry's setting was aweful i didn't know Africa had such narrow valleys over 99% of it and i didn't know that all the major cites were so close together in the middle east
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Oh my... what did Ubisoft ever do to you?

psn8214

Yeah seriously, wtf? They make some of the best games out there including the Rainbow Six games and Assassins Creed,and Red Steel 2 is damn good, if anything the Wii's audience should be faulted for neglecting great games like this, House of the Dead, Madworld and No More Heroes. Seriously sheep, you guys are failing the hardcore game makers, they aren't failing you.

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#18 SgtKevali
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My god, when did Ubisoft fire you? Most of their games have been decent to great. :/

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Who didn't see this trainwreck coming? Bad sequel to an abysmal game is bound to crash in sales chart, and to think some of you defended it with 'oh atleast it's better than the first awful game!'. It didn't even crack the top 20 in its debut month, and performed worse than MadWorld. Guess this is what UbiTrash deserved for burning over a million people with their first abysmal Red Steel game. The nerve of UbiTrash for thinking they can fool the mass again with this tarnished franchise. Admit it silly Red Steel fans, this lousy franchise is officially dead. Good riddance.

runbleduck
So now 7.5 is a bad game? Odd, cuz GameSpot calls 7.5 'good'
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#20 psn8214
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]assasins creed was 90% lies farcry 2 just plain sucked, i got it free and could only tolerate it for about 5 minsshadow_hosi

I think in both cases the setting was what drew me in, and kept me coming back.

farcry's setting was aweful i didn't know Africa had such narrow valleys over 99% of it and i didn't know that all the major cites were so close together in the middle east

Oh, I don't know... I liked it. :P

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#21 VendettaRed07
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imo... Its probably because the game just looks so unappealing ... I really hate the art style and just over all look of the game.. But thats just me. I think otheres will agree though

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#22 dazzzilla
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Ubisoft is a big company, but they are nothing like Activision. You can see they put effort in most of the time, and actually take time to release games. Ubisofts Dunia engine that powers Far Cry 2 has some of the best graphics in the gaming industry along with the Cryengine, they also sent the team developing it on a tour in Africa to study everything sort of like disney done with the lion king.

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#23 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

Oh my... what did Ubisoft ever do to you?

SPYDER0416

Yeah seriously, wtf? They make some of the best games out there including the Rainbow Six games and Assassins Creed,and Red Steel 2 is damn good, if anything the Wii's audience should be faulted for neglecting great games like this, House of the Dead, Madworld and No More Heroes. Seriously sheep, you guys are failing the hardcore game makers, they aren't failing you.

I would take the blame but seriously I don't always have the cash to dish out on every game. The only game I have bought that is NEW this year was Tatsunoko vs Capcom.

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#24 FeedOnATreeFrog
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i still don't get why people care about sales.

You know what other game sold nothing? Ico

case closed.

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#25 nintendos-mario
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i still don't get why people care about sales.

You know what other game sold nothing? Ico

case closed.

FeedOnATreeFrog

The same thing I can say about scores or for the denizens here, graphics. What is important for gamers is whether they will enjoy the game, not whether it received a "good" score or have good graphics or not.

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#26 DJ_Headshot
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games like this don't sell to well on the wii ubisoft is better of making awesome games like just dance that sell boatloads of copy on the wii.
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#27 Valiant_Rebel
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Bad sales completely? Not sure, we'll see in a month.

Ubisoft, where is my Rayman 4?

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#28 schu
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

I think in both cases the setting was what drew me in, and kept me coming back.

psn8214

farcry's setting was aweful i didn't know Africa had such narrow valleys over 99% of it and i didn't know that all the major cites were so close together in the middle east

Oh, I don't know... I liked it. :P

my middle eastern friend who i go to college with seemed to think the game did a good job
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#29 Brawl578
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.....Yay?

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#30 dovberg
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actually they are saying the sales we decent. I personally have really enjoyed it.

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#31 PatchMaster
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Yes, they are masters of missed potential and over exaggeration, but whatevs. I'm pretty sure Ubi is done with the Wii at this point anyway.

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#32 AvIdGaMeR444
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Dead Space Extraction, Zack and Wiki, MadWorld, Red Steel 2...all good games...all flopped hard in sales.

Just Dance and Carnival Games sold well. Keep up this trend and 3rd parties will only shovel out casual stuff and completely abandon the hardcore crowd once and for all.

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#33 Jelley0
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Dead Space Extraction, Zack and Wiki, MadWorld, Red Steel 2...all good games...all flopped hard in sales.

Just Dance and Carnival Games sold well. Keep up this trend and 3rd parties will only shovel out casual stuff and completely abandon the hardcore crowd once and for all.

AvIdGaMeR444

Dead space extraction was on rails. Zack and Wiki was an unfamilar game andhad a terrible box art that looks kiddy. MadWorld was very very short with little replay value and got very repetitive. All three of those games had little to no advertisement. And I'm guessing Red Steel 2 flopped because it requries Wiimotion plus, not a whole lot of people own that, I think.

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#34 JLF1
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Dead Space Extraction, Zack and Wiki, MadWorld, Red Steel 2...all good games...all flopped hard in sales.

Just Dance and Carnival Games sold well. Keep up this trend and 3rd parties will only shovel out casual stuff and completely abandon the hardcore crowd once and for all.

Jelley0

Dead space extraction was on rails. Zack and Wiki was an unfamilar game andhad a terrible box art that looks kiddy. MadWorld was very very short with little replay value and got very repetitive. All three of those games had little to no advertisement. And I'm guessing Red Steel 2 flopped because it requries Wiimotion plus, not a whole lot of people own that, I think.



That didn't stop Carnival Games from selling though. Having a kiddy box-art on the Wii is a good thing considering that more people of a young age are playing on it. Much like the DS.

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#35 JLF1
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UbiTrash's Karma?

More like Wii core gamer's karma. The few high quality Wii games Ubisoft is releasing on the Wii doesn't really sell were as Just Dance sells millions of copies.

Ubisoft isn't really screaming in pain, more like the few core gamers that like these games are screaming in pain knowing that Ubisoft won't develop anyore of these on the Wii.

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#36 KungfuKitten
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It just can't compete with the ten million FPS out there.
Shame though, i heard it was pretty ok.

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#37 LastRambo341
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Adverts were everywhere too so I hope no one bothers with that excuse this time. Uninspiring, bland graphics, silly story and setting, and to top it all off, the wrong console to put it on.

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Wrong console? I think its the prefect console. I wouldn't have bought it if it was on other systems
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#38 TheOwnerOner
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Acutally, a really good game. haters should be ashamed.
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#39 LastRambo341
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games like this don't sell to well on the wii ubisoft is better of making awesome games like just dance that sell boatloads of copy on the wii.DJ_Headshot
I don't want Just Dance
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#40 GulliversTravel
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Can the marketing excuse be used this time:?
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#41 jedikevin2
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What it boils down to is the wii is the most pirated console of the generation. Add to that, that somehow the game was illegally leaked weeks (like 3 weeks) before the release and you can start to understand what happened. I still find it funny that nintendo or sites like this don't want to chastise the system for its piracy but go full bells and whistles over the 360 and pc piracy.

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#42 haziqonfire
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Dead Space Extraction, Zack and Wiki, MadWorld, Red Steel 2...all good games...all flopped hard in sales.

Just Dance and Carnival Games sold well. Keep up this trend and 3rd parties will only shovel out casual stuff and completely abandon the hardcore crowd once and for all.

AvIdGaMeR444
Then developers need to stop making games that are niche titles. Dead Space is an on rails shooter, Zack and wiki has a kiddy look and is a point and click game, MadWorld is black and white, super violent for the sake of being violent. Red Steel 2 is the only game thats not that niche but already established a bad name among people because of the first game. Once development teams actually use their top tier teams on the Wii, I doubt we'll see many successes.
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#43 WAIW
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Quite a paradox, to see the bad Red Steel to sell so well and the second to sell so poorly :o

I guess there aren't too many fans of the first that wanted to risk another wasted $50

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#44 LastRambo341
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Piracy is killing the wii and its not funny
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#45 IppoTenma
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Can the marketing excuse be used this time:?GulliversTravel
No. Ubisoft had tons of commercials for it. I don't know what to say.
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#46 LastRambo341
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I can't believe that some people already hacked MH3 as well
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#47 millerlight89
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UbiSoft is a good company, people should stop bashing them. They have crapy games sure, but they also have great games.
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#48 nokia710c
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What it boils down to is the wii is the most pirated console of the generation. Add to that, that somehow the game was illegally leaked weeks (like 3 weeks) before the release and you can start to understand what happened. I still find it funny that nintendo or sites like this don't want to chastise the system for its piracy but go full bells and whistles over the 360 and pc piracy.

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Oh yeah man. Wii is so bad on piracy nowadays that it is almost comical at this point. Only games that will ever sell well are those that parents buy for there kids. When I first heard of the wii getting hacked literally a week onto its release then I knew it would be a downhill spiral. When games can be leaked out weeks before a release then things are in bad shape.
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#49 bc1391
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What it boils down to is the wii is the most pirated console of the generation. Add to that, that somehow the game was illegally leaked weeks (like 3 weeks) before the release and you can start to understand what happened. I still find it funny that nintendo or sites like this don't want to chastise the system for its piracy but go full bells and whistles over the 360 and pc piracy.

jedikevin2

Yeah, Piracy is horrible on the Wii, these are some figures from a while back showing how bad it is.